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Do you mean Brig. Bikram Singh?

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Bishwa
Thanks for the clarifications. These days I am mixing the victor and kilo up. Time to refreh my J & K Geography

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If you go down on this page you will see a picture of a senior army officer. Can Any Computer Savy person blow this picture up so we can see the ranks or the medal ribbons. This may be Maj. Gen. Dalbir Singhhttp://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020214/j&k.htm

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Jagan and LNS Thanks for the clarifications. Accidental explosion never came to my mind, I was thinking in terms of traffic/road accident.

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Jagan Heip me out , I am somewhat lost? :confused: Regarding Maj. Gen. E. J. Fernandez (dispute regarding an accident or IED?). In the court of inquiry if it was conducted properly, IED case can be detected by explosive traces. Also what about the eyewitness report of his escorts. A COIN Maj. Gen mo...

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Vikram Question of the day:Is it Dalvir or Dalbir?IPKF and the AVSM list on the IA web site shows DAlvir.His IC # is too high in the 26----, can this be a typo. IA is not known to fast track at such a super speed. What about the guys in 23---- and 24----. How about some of the other battali...

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If Vikram does not mind I would like to know who are the officers presently severing as Maj. Gen or Lt. Gen who have won a Vrc or MVC?Lt. Gen. G. S. Sihota, Artl , Vrc GOC SC
Lt. Gen. A.S. Khanna, Artl, VrC, Dep. Chief IA
Lt. Gen. J.B.S. Yadhava, GR, GOC 16 Corps

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Vikram
Another nice post congrats! Hope you put up your 1000 post in the next couple of months. It is always interesting to read your posts.Any Photograph of Maj. Gen. Dalbir Singh ( Sanik samachar or some source)?

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Any pictures of the President putting on the rank badges on Arjan Singh? Regarding German army ranks wrt BritishBritish German Brigadier General Major Maj. Gen General Lt. Lt. Gen General General Col. General Field Marshal General Field MarshalJAI JAI HO! :cool:

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A Col. General in the german army during ww2 was equivalent to a full General in the british army

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Link to a photo of Marshall Arjan Singh and his wife upon hearing the newshttp://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020126/main5.htm

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Congrats Sir!My question why did it take 33 years for GOI to make him a Marshall?

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ShahidHere is the info you requested about Sikh Li during WW2. Sorry it took that long, my sources in India worked on the Indian Sliding time.The 1st Battalion of Sikh Li was raised at Jullundur on Oct. 1st 1941, 2nd Battalion was raised at Peshawar 1st July 1942, 3rd Battalion was raised at S...

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This thread is about Pak raising a 3rd armoured div or not. Lets keeps it to the primary concept and please dont post any air chair plots etc involvinf IAF Paf scuds etc.Vikram Thanks for starting the thread. It has been a interestering one for a long long time on BRF. Thanks to all member who...

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From all the write up in this thread and other articles on the web, it looks like that the PAK army initially floated the idea of a 3rd armoured div, but no admin or tactical HQ for the 3rd armoured div exists. Pak army is more happy with the indep. armoured brigade setup. Though they may have on pa...

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BishwaI should have looke earlier at Col. K. Ludra's Pak Orbat , the link to which I have provided on the first pageThe Tanks are as followsM-47 15 M-48M 250 approx 5 regiments, approx 50 tanks per regiment T-59 1200 approx 24 regiments, approx 50 tanks per regiment T-69 250 approx...

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Bishwa You have raised some good points Going about the Pak army tank figures posted on the web the army has 200 T-85 II 51 T-55 250 T-69 1200 T-59 100 T-60/63 450 M48There is no mention of the T-80's . so this look like the figures are wrong and the number of various tan...

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According to Mandeep's postsThe distribution id tanks in an IA Armoured Regiment is:30 Tanks 15 Training tanks ( are fully operational during war) 10 tanks as reserves (mechanical and attrition)Pak army armoured regiments have on the other hand41 tanks 10-15 tanks was mechanical...

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VikramAn IA Strike through the Kutch area would not be a good idea was the area has poor communications and roads and major problem of drinking water. Pak would lose face and face internal political pressure if India captures areas in POK, Punjab or threatens the Sindh Green Belt. Rann on the ...

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Here's a 90's Pak Orbat (This too lists only 2 Armoured Divs along with a number of indep. armoured brigades) <A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/israindia/pak_army_orbat.html" TARGET=_blank>http://members.tripod.com/israindia/pak_army_orbat.html</A> [This message has been edited by ...

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Vikram I would go with Mandeep Bajwa. There is no one on the BRF who knows as much about Pak. army and its formations as Mandeep. I will go one step forward and say that Mandeep is the top among civilians in India regarding knowledge about Pak army and its formations.On the other side we shoul...

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Zaki Some great posts in this thread.Can you write a piece about the Gorkhas in WW 2 for the BRM or any other topic of your choice?If we have an article in the BRM then the forum members could have a nice reference.Thanks

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Zaki The Sikh LI DID NOT fight as Sikh Regiment in various wars. Sikh LI was earlier on known as Sikh Pioneers and was completely different from the Sikh Regiment.

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Was there not a MLI battalion that fought alongside the Australians at Tobruk during WW2?

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Shahid Could not agree more with you. The same is doubly true for all the battalions which were transfered to Mech. Infantry. I think its time that these battalion (mech Inf. ones) which are rich in history should be allowed to grow with the parent regiment. Their stories and valour are a big so...

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Some more info on the regiments posted by ZakiRegarding 2nd Punjab, the Present Punjab Regiment. the 1st Battalion went to Paras when they were formed.Also another titbit both 1st and 3rd battalions, both had Indian CO's during WW2. Both won DSO's. Lt. Col Thakur Mahadeo Singh for the 1st batt...

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Good Job ShahidRegarding the Punjab REgiment all of them except the 2 Punjab were alloted to Pakistanthe 2 Punjab is the present Punjab Regiment in India.11 Sikh is the present Sikh Regiment and 2,3 4 are the present 2 Sikh, 3 Sikh and 4 Sikh. 7 Sikh was a newly raised battalion during w...

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The Rajasthan Regiment is actually ment to be the Rajput Regiment (the 1962 soldiers are from 2 Rajputs) and the Rajasthan Rifles are the Rajputana Rifles.

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some thing related but not directlyPunjab Police not to send me in for J & K elections <A HREF="http://www.tribuneindia.com/20010221/punjab1.htm#5" TARGET=_blank>http://www.tribuneindia.com/20010221/punjab1.htm#5</A> Jai HO!

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Is this going to be another trickle down along the assembly line , which took years and years for the model to role out as was the case of the Vijayanta by the Avidhi tank factory?

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Armoured CorpsCap. Arvind Nilkanth Jatar (Central India Horse) Rajouri 1948 Maj. Gen. Rajindar Singh MVC and Bar (7 Cavalry) Jhangar 1948 Sialkot 1965 Maj. Bhaskar Roy (20 Lancers) Chhamb 1965 Maj. Bhupinder Singh (P) (4 Horse) Phillora 1965 Lt. Col. Madan Mohan Singh Bakshi (4 Horse)...

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Some more info about the 3/4 GR MVc's at Siachen3/4 GR was inducted into Siachen in Sep. 1987.A company under Maj. K.G. Chatterjee was asked to take over the defences of Bilafondla complex, which included the 3 forward posts called Saddle, 'U' Cut and Ashok. While taking over charge of this compl...

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Bishwa You are correct the 3/4 GR received the MVC for repelling the attacks on Bilafindla. If interested I have a brief account for the acts for which the MVC's were awarded.

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The Gorkhas are here!Gorkha Regiment1 Gorkha Rifles (7)L/Naik Rabi Lal Thapa (P) (2/1 GR) Jhangar 1948 L/Naik Ran Vahadur Gurung (P) (3/1 GR) Congo 1961 Naik Mahabir Thapa (P) (3/1 GR) Congo 1961 Rifman. Pati Ram Gurung (P) (5/1 GR) Uthali 1971 Hav. Bir Bahadur Pun (5/1 GR) Dars...

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Dogra Regiment (9)Lt. Col. Inderjit Singh Butalia (P) (4 Dogra) Naushera 1948 Maj. Thakur Prithi Singh (2 Dogra) Leh 1948 Maj. Khushal Chand Leh 1948 Cap. Gautam Mubayi (P) (2 Dogra) Mendhar 1965 L/Hav. Naubat Ram (6 Dogra) Haji Pir 1965 Cap. Devinder Singh Ahlawat (P) (10 Dogra) D...

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Rajput Regiment (7)L/Hav. Daya Ram (1 Rajput) Naushera 1948 Lt. Kishan Singh Rathore (1 Rajput) Naushera 1948 Maj. Gurdial Singh (2 Rajput) Namkha Chu 1962 Maj. Sardul Singh Randhawa (*3) Daulat Beg Oldi 1962 Maj. Baljit Singh Randhawa (P) (4 Rajput) Kargil 1965 Maj. Harbhajan Sing...

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On with the MVC listPunjab Regiment (18)Sepoy Amar Singh (1 Patiala) Zoji La 1948 Sub. Gurdial Singh (1 Patiala) Jhangar 1948 Jem. Hardev Singh (P) (1 Patiala) Zoji La 1948 Sepoy Hari Singh (1 Patiala) Jhangar 1948 Jem. Lal Singh (1 Patiala) Zoji La 1948 Naik Pritam Singh (1...

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Rakesh You are correct in that note about ? marks. About 28 Raj Rif., the last battalion I have on the list is 21st, why would they jump to 27?. Thanks for pointing the various stuff , I have made the corresponding corrections in the original list. [This message has been edited by dsandh...

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I will be attaching in parts the Regiment wise list of MVC Winners, including Siachen, IPKF and Kargil to this thread. One has to note that in the case of certain regiments like 1 Rajput, both the Rajput Regiment as well as Brigade of Guards count their gallantry awards.Well here starts the list ...

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