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Mukesh.Kumar

I am saying if the Chinese opt for a shooting war, the terrain in Ladakh and J&K does not allow a 2 front offensive from Pakis and the Chinese at the same time. Pakis can do something only further south through the IB. That means we might have some troops tied up in the west to defend and focus...

Mukesh.Kumar

Slightly OT and longish post (Part II) Alert ON. Ok, now that we have established the conditions under which an airborne assault on GB is likely to be the best way to take back the region short of going through the whole gamut of taking over all of POK, a much more humongous exercise, let’s see wha...

Mukesh.Kumar

Sir, it's not possible for Pakistan to take away Ladakh through a land grab. Salami slicing/ "aman ka tamasha" accompanied by our naivette, yes. I am not clear about what you mean buy the last two sentences. Mind elaborating a little? I am saying if the Chinese opt for a shooting war, the...

Mukesh.Kumar

It's not that I am saying that liberation of Tibet or GB will be impossible. A $10 trillion economy can make many things,which seem fanciful today, come within our grasp. Mukesh, thanks very much for the wonderful analysis. Whether that $150 Billion is on the lower side or higher is not the point. ...

Mukesh.Kumar

Mukeshji, thank you for the detailed posts and your perspective. I will try to address the main points therein: My posts regarding India's GB options had three main objectives: 1. Take over the regions if possible, if not 2. Take over key nodes if possible, if not 3. Ensure that TSP-Chicom access t...

Mukesh.Kumar

Thank you sir for putting in a few lines what took me three long posts to convey. It's not that I am saying that liberation of Tibet or GB will be impossible. A $10 trillion economy can make many things,which seem fanciful today, come within our grasp. As long as there is realism and planning. But ...

Mukesh.Kumar

Mukesh Ji very good writeup on the logistics required to take over GB. The key take away from your post is that it is impossible for the Pakis to do the reverse. So then the question comes how a two-front war will succeed if the objective is to take over Ladakh or J&K for that matter. It seems ...

Mukesh.Kumar

Now, that we are over that, let’s figure out how this can be worked out: .......... Appreciate questions for further analysis and debate[/i] Mukesh ji, I'm glad you posted this. I would personally have liked to reply to all the posts of liberating GB / POK or Tibet as `neither possible nor desirabl...

Mukesh.Kumar

Is it that impossible for India to impose an nfz in Pok? They have just about 5 brigades in GB. Without air cover, they'll be hard-pressed. There are roads from kargil to skardu to gilgit. If we have air cover, can't they be plied by Indian units? Not too different from say a tangail airdrop.... Sl...

Mukesh.Kumar

Is it that impossible for India to impose an nfz in Pok? They have just about 5 brigades in GB. Without air cover, they'll be hard-pressed. There are roads from kargil to skardu to gilgit. If we have air cover, can't they be plied by Indian units? Not too different from say a tangail airdrop.... Sl...

Mukesh.Kumar

Is it that impossible for India to impose an nfz in Pok? They have just about 5 brigades in GB. Without air cover, they'll be hard-pressed. There are roads from kargil to skardu to gilgit. If we have air cover, can't they be plied by Indian units? Not too different from say a tangail airdrop.... Sl...

Mukesh.Kumar

.... RaviB-ji asking for your forbearance in the beginning itself. Let's explore this more. We need to quantify and specify how China's rise is inclemental for us. Not doing this robs us of two benefits. Firstly, a will visualized negative scenario will light a fire under people's asses. Nothing ga...

Mukesh.Kumar

Some rambling thoughts, by no means conclusive. It just reflects my dilemma... .... Tibet by itself is not a strong reason for us to dig in and fight a sustained conflict with China - only in strategic and our kind of circles does that have some currency. Liberating Tibet is no means a joke, if not...

Mukesh.Kumar

Manish ji - how would India convert standoff attack into kinetic battle ?? Allow me to make my 2 n.p. contribution. In battle, like almost any activity, outcomes and are often made by momentum. Who ever seizes the initiative, has a head start in building momentum. Unfortunately the Chinese seized (...

Mukesh.Kumar

....' Is that what we want? I find this hypocritical that we as a country are allowing the flower of our youth to die because if our short sighted policy and actions. I am not even an armchair strategist but there are enough learned people and deep thinkers on the forum who could take the lead in p...

Mukesh.Kumar

Let me try and put this economy discussion in perspective. <snip> I feel like you need to put more thought into this. Doesn't "a) Is China going to let us be in peace? No." answers "b)Is it acceptable for us to allow China's rise unchallenged? What would be so bad?"? Why would i...

Mukesh.Kumar

Let me try and put this economy discussion in perspective. Is China going to let us be in peace? No. They need a subservient state that will kowtow to them line they kowtowed to the world during their century of humiliation. Expecting them to change is line expecting a tiger to turn vegan. Is it acc...

Mukesh.Kumar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_GDP_of_China China's GDP in 1962 was 47.21 Billion Dollars But I can't find India's GDP in 1962, please help me. Manish I found China at $47.2 bn and India at $42.1 at countryeconomy.com. But per capita we should have been ahead of the Chinese. Added later: ...

Mukesh.Kumar

The Prime Minister will be addressing the nation tomorrow at 1600 IST.

https://www.businessinsider.in/india/ne ... 696511.cms

Wonder what gives.

Mukesh.Kumar

BRF is starting to resemble one of those Kyunki Ki Saas.... soap operas. In absence of concrete information there's an endless hand wrenching, doomsday prophecies, some old uncles fighting back asking for stiffer spines, rinse, repeat cycle going on. Understand that things are not moving at a prave ...

Mukesh.Kumar

Frogmen don't feel cold in the freezing waters that too in night? There are specialist courses and training available. Besides this could be a quick job for trained divers and not expected by PLA, so an element of surprise JVAiExgwRxc Sir, I don't know how much first hand experience you have of any...

Mukesh.Kumar

Frogmen don't feel cold in the freezing waters that too in night? There are specialist courses and training available. Besides this could be a quick job for trained divers and not expected by PLA, so an element of surprise JVAiExgwRxc Sir, I don't know how much first hand experience you have of any...

Mukesh.Kumar

Surely worth investigating. But this Navraj Grewal looks a fishy character too. Too obsessed with Sikh history at cost of everything else. JNU stamped. Check out his FB ---> https://www.facebook.com/soulngary Worth checking out before listening to him. The major got into a verbal battle on twitter a...

Mukesh.Kumar

@RaviB jee Thanks a lot & congrats for those two excellent posts on china. Part 2 and conclusion of previous post How China sees itself This might make me sound like a Pakistani, but the Chinese have nothing to even remotely match the Indian soldier's spirit . I just tried to think of how many ...

Mukesh.Kumar

Banrjeer ji, that's the biggest challenge. In a country where more people post on an incident in Bollywood than the border issue. But there's hope. More people are becoming aware. We need to push the envelop. Question, try and educate others. For the next generation keep talking. I still remember my...

Mukesh.Kumar

RaviB ji's twin party posts need to go into our repository of Collection of Good Parts and Understanding the Chinese. Somehow typing from my phone can't find them. Requesting one of the Mods to help out.

Fantastic posts RaviBji. My pranams

Mukesh.Kumar

Mukesh garu, I'm no guru, but I broadly agree. We need to integrate the unfriendly neighbours China has gifted us with into the equation as well. We have to integrate overcoming those pressure points into the overall response construct. Saama, Dana, Bheda, Danda. Amar_p ji no guru for me. Am a lear...

Mukesh.Kumar

NRao, right you are. ... With that 63 billion gone they will have much less money to do mischief, to fund Porkistan against us. 63 billion instead going in salaries to our own workforce. Absolutely @Manish_Sharmaji. War is not only fought with arms and soldiers, but by all means. Sometimes it's the...

Mukesh.Kumar

I am apologizing in advance if this hurts the sensibilities of anyone here. But we need to step back and look at the issue at hand from a purely analytical POV. Also, please do not misconstrue what I write as being insulting to the memory of any of our martyrs. We need to stop looking at the issue ...

Mukesh.Kumar

Still the events on night of 15-Jun do not make sense from Chinese perspective - I still cannot understand what were they trying to achieve. Multiple sources have mentioned Shaolin swords and spears were used by Chinese and attack was almost simultaneous upon atleast few or more Indian patrols - wh...

Mukesh.Kumar

Stop trolling. The discussion here is on the situation seethe border and response. Not a comparison of Nehru and Modi. Observing over series of posts that you are trying to derail discussions. Your post is being reported as flame bait Don't be so precious. Nothing wrong in that post. Leadership has...

Mukesh.Kumar

To me a key question is, is Modi Nehru? Did Modi get sucked into “spirit of Wuhan” like Nehru got sucked into “Hindi-Chinni Bhai-Bahi”? Did Modi ignore clear war preparations - that people on Twitter were warning about (And GOI had to have known about), while wishfully thinking of them as a some bo...

Mukesh.Kumar

No mention of any mutilation by our supposed 56-inch. He used to scream ek ke badle dus sar for Pakistan, when it comes to Chinese all he can afford to do it to give 2 mins shraddhanjali to the brave ones who died on most horrific situations killed by a treacherous enemy and left helpless by this s...

Mukesh.Kumar

No reason to be dwell on optics to see who suffered more casualties right now. We all knew that if anyone will initiate an escalation in that area; it will be China. So it’s obvious that they will make the first hit. No need to think that our Army isn’t capable of putting a tough resistance. We wer...

Mukesh.Kumar

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/16/three-indian-soldiers-killed-clash-chinese-border/ Lately, I have had a hard time trusting Indian media as it is scared of speaking against the government. Article says “34 Indian soldiers” missing. Are there other sources to back this up? Suggest you spe...

Mukesh.Kumar

There are several things we can do - immediately and without difficulty. All of them will send a signal to the Chinese (even though, in some cases, we can deny that it does). 1. Cancel the just awarded contract as part of Delhi's mass transit system. Award it to L&T which was just 44 cr less. T...

Mukesh.Kumar

Guys cool down. No use getting emotive or provoking one another here. Before you post please consider if the information you are posting is: 1. Venting 2. Disrespectful towards others 3. Off topic to the discussion at hand 4. Unsubstantiated bit of information or from suspect sources If in doubt ple...

Mukesh.Kumar

Whatever happens next, I have utmost faith in our leaership. They have let us down till now. Neither in 2016 nor in 2019. What we need to do down is support the army and have faith in modi so that they may not be pressured to act in haste. Exactly. People talking about '62 and other events don't re...

Mukesh.Kumar

I am reminded of Modi taking potshots at Manmohan for not speaking up as Prime Minister of nation but he seems to be following the same over last 2-3 years. Going by the precedents of Uri and Balakot , we can expect limited retaliation after 10-15 days. Also , had Pakistan been sorted after 27-28 F...

Mukesh.Kumar

X-Posting from Korea thread for relevance if highlighted part. Breaking News Trouble on Korean peninsula. Reports indicate NoKo blowing up liaison office in its territory. SCMP Not a bad development from Indian PoV. Tension in the Korean peninsula will result in US deployment and consequent Lizard's...

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