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- 10 Jan 2015 18:03
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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- 10 Jan 2015 17:29
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Errr, CJ, I said the boat WAS a terrorist boat. I was correcting your perception that just because ICG intercepted it does not make it low priority or harmless. If you read my whole post, then you'll realize that ICG has higher number of assets in Gujarat rather than IN. So its logical ICG was desi...
- 10 Jan 2015 16:53
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
So if an incident happens when an ICG aircraft or ship was sent to track, then it doesn't mean that because IN was not involved, the threat was of low priority . I basically agree to what you are saying. This threat was low priority. I stated that explicitly that this is not a terror boat capable o...
- 10 Jan 2015 13:28
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
They chased for an hour etc. With more experienced assets, the outcome could have been different.
- 10 Jan 2015 09:00
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
My FB page has no bearing on this discussion as it is not me, but it is some other guys who are bringing in politics. It does have - it reflects your bias and why are you so afraid if others are brought to attention to your public facebook profile ? Also how convenient bring attention to your FV pa...
- 10 Jan 2015 08:53
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
My FB page has no bearing on this discussion as it is not me, but it is some other guys who are bringing in politics.
- 10 Jan 2015 08:47
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
I have stated it above. You go and read.prasannasimha wrote:So what should they have done ? You said the Navy did not respond (adequately) and that is the proof that it was a loving persons boat.Go back and see what you have written.
- 10 Jan 2015 08:36
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Tell me this Chacko. In your opinion did the boat blow itself up or did the Coast Guard sink it? Your opinion. I haven't stated any opinion on this before and will not since I have no clue on it. As per CG they lit a fire internally, which led to explosion and furious burning of the boat. Two other...
- 10 Jan 2015 07:24
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Shayms, You have summerised that perfectly. There are some points that in your subsequent questions which I want to reply. This is also for the folks who want to partially understand how we are being defended in the seas and what the ships do. Pre 91/11, there is a paradigm shift on our coastal defe...
- 09 Jan 2015 20:22
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
I only stated , reacting to a particular post that it has not been conclusively said by the govt that it is a terror boat. They said by circumstances. Then they said they will come with proof.
- 09 Jan 2015 20:17
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
I know I wrote that in the current context. So, i still don't agree that Cole incident can be compared to this where there is no surprise element.
- 09 Jan 2015 20:08
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
As a reader, you can decide Shiv. I have never asked my media to be taken for granted. It is hardly a matter. But, I don't agree with your personal opinion of equating Cole with this incident. Anyway ramanna is banning me. Ramana's actions are irrelevant to the issue. The fact is that you are perfe...
- 09 Jan 2015 19:51
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
As a reader, you can decide Shiv. I have never asked my media to be taken for granted. It is hardly a matter. But, I don't agree with your personal opinion of equating Cole with this incident. Anyway ramanna is banning me.
- 09 Jan 2015 19:33
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
You can ban me Rammana. I have no objection.
- 09 Jan 2015 19:27
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
There is an instance that IN ship was fired at. see what happens if its a chase or such. I do not agree with you even a bit on this Shiv. cole is very bad example. Indian navy destroys pirate ship after coming under fire "The INS Tabar closed in on the mother vessel and asked her to stop for in...
- 09 Jan 2015 19:21
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Shiv, that is your opinion. Even for VBSS, they do not go so close. The do send a recce with helio, followed by geminis at a safe distance. if the boat moves, they fire in front of it. I do not agree with you at all. Cole is absolutely different case. I find no relevance of Adm Prakash here. And who...
- 09 Jan 2015 19:11
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
K Mehta,
1) Just tell me the arms cache one can buy for rs 5 lakhs.
2) I am not replying to arrogant questions or repeats any more.
1) Just tell me the arms cache one can buy for rs 5 lakhs.
2) I am not replying to arrogant questions or repeats any more.
- 09 Jan 2015 18:58
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Shiv,
Cole bombing was a surprise. I thought of that. But this is not a surprise element. This was a chase. I do not agree that that boat can harm an IN boat. Normally, they form a cordon. gemini's and ships chopper are sent in advance etc. This has no parallels with cole incident.
Cole bombing was a surprise. I thought of that. But this is not a surprise element. This was a chase. I do not agree that that boat can harm an IN boat. Normally, they form a cordon. gemini's and ships chopper are sent in advance etc. This has no parallels with cole incident.
- 09 Jan 2015 18:35
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
KMehta, Misleading is being attributed to the discrepancy in the release. The release that came to us mentioned Terror in heading and then did not mention terror in the body. That's how it started. We are asking what it is? On Praveen Swamy's charges, you can ask him. 1) haggling of which money? 2) ...
- 09 Jan 2015 18:14
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Ever thought that CG assets was at hand for the fastest possible reaction? Also Navy being in charge does not mean CG will not be used. To swat a fly (a fishing boat) you do not use a hammer (IN warship) but a swatter (CG patrol vessels). Regarding the 2nd boat, I remember reading that it developed...
- 09 Jan 2015 17:49
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
The coast guard is the initial point of defense of our Borders like the BSF for land. Does thearmy charge in for every terrorits intrusion along our Borders ? Since 9/11, there is a change in the policy. I have mentioned it already and is a repeat. Navy is over all incharge. The parallels cannot be...
- 09 Jan 2015 17:39
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Well, I will tell you my perspective, a repeat. My disbelief was because navy is over all incharge and if it was a terror boat, then why navy did not get involved. At that time Naval involvement was not known. If there were 2 terror boats why CG sent just 1 craft? Since there was a debate if it was ...
- 09 Jan 2015 16:51
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Why are you asking that to me? I am no way connected to a claim that CG sunk the boat. Infact this is a new one to me.
- 09 Jan 2015 14:18
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
- Replies: 3957
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Re: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
Infact once when funds were short, especially in 1980's, navy never stopped building, investing and loaning personnel in DRDO / R&D projects. They are reaping the benefits of those investments. The country possesses finest ships in their class, totally suited for India's own need and naval doctr...
- 09 Jan 2015 10:57
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
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- Views: 576933
Re: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
Navy does from it's own budget or asks for allotment for more budget.
- 09 Jan 2015 10:41
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Indian Coast Guard: News & Discussion
- Replies: 552
- Views: 194079
Re: Indian Coast Guard Discussion
I hope they are not just giving the "verification certificate" without any basic checks, even after taking Rs. 500. Well, it cannot be conclusively said. I remember the fisher folks telling me that there is a shortage of manpower. When boats are ready to leave and to get additional manpow...
- 09 Jan 2015 10:34
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
ramanna,
Let me decide what I want to do. If you find any forum rules broken, then tell me. However, your political tones with personal attack shows that you yourself are breaking the rules as moderator.
Let me decide what I want to do. If you find any forum rules broken, then tell me. However, your political tones with personal attack shows that you yourself are breaking the rules as moderator.
- 09 Jan 2015 08:19
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
We all have the right to speculate. But please understand that when a professional journalist (like yourself) speculate without any evidence it comes across very differently and plain incorrect. You should understand that the power or reach that the media has automatically holds you against a very ...
- 09 Jan 2015 08:10
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
shyams,
I am still waiting for example. Why this is silly theory here?
I am still waiting for example. Why this is silly theory here?
- 09 Jan 2015 08:06
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Oh and pray, what evidence do YOU have that it is a smuggling boat? As a journalist, if you don't have evidence to present to public to back up your story, then you should not state it. The govt. on the other hand is not bound to such things since they have the prerogative to hide the evidence for ...
- 09 Jan 2015 08:03
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Shyams, I still am looking forward which countries you mention. I can think of only china where they issue releases and don't take questions. The boat blew up due to fire set up by the personnel inside as per CG statement. CG later stated that there were 2 jerrycans with approx 200 liters of fuel. s...
- 09 Jan 2015 07:55
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
I must also add that particular section of this forum, in their zeal for personal attacks, have tried to assign the blame on others that CG action is questioned. We have to take on these particular section to mislead and try to bring out the fake debate on CG actions.
- 09 Jan 2015 07:53
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
No one has disagreed or disregarded with CG action. The crux of the matter is what it was - a smuggling boat or a terror boat.
- 09 Jan 2015 07:51
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
shyams. Which country you are making an example where military does not question governments? Even in paki land, journalists end up dead or disappear as they have questioned their governments. it has not stopped someone or the other questioning their govt. GOI has not given its side of story. All it...
- 09 Jan 2015 07:33
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
saravana, why do you assign me with the credit of believing that it was not a terror boat. I speculated it might not be one, citing some circumstances; and govt speculated it is one, citing circumstances. Just because some vested interest in the forum shouted their loudest does not mean truth has be...
- 09 Jan 2015 07:02
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
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- Views: 576933
Re: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
Yes. They don't do it. Navy funds tech demonstrators like KTMG, AIP etc.Sid wrote:Highlighted part is desirable, but does IAF has funds or clout in Gov or DRDO to do it?
- 09 Jan 2015 06:58
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Indian Coast Guard: News & Discussion
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Re: Indian Coast Guard Discussion
ramanna, These things do not actually get implemented as fishermen / small boat owners cannot afford or maintain them. The corruption. As an example, Maharashtra requires id card to be issued if some wants to join a boat. Now, the verification takes weeks and months. So, if they are paid Rs 500, the...
- 09 Jan 2015 06:44
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Sid, Take this question in spirit. If the same happens to Indian's then? We term it poor people who strayed across, bombed by jihadists pakis (which ofcource they are). Maloy Krishna Dhar once told me a fact that I really understood well. I was in favour of R&AW constituting a black ops team eli...
- 09 Jan 2015 05:29
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Pak boat: Will put forth evidence in due time, says government There appears to be serious issue on the credibility of the claim that it was terror boat. Note that I am not saying it was terror boat or smuggling boat. Government is yet to bring out evidence that it is a terror boat and Parrikar's &...
- 08 Jan 2015 15:19
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
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Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Our Coast Guard would have been very much within their rights, even to shoot and sink the intruder terror boat (which of course they did not do in this case) Above, i think Mr. Chacko Joseph, has been mis-quoted... here, he is not referring to the current incident.. he is referring to other (ind-pa...