Bharat Rakshak

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Rafale is worth its penny...and its really worth to build 100 or more of them in India...LCA, Rafale, MKI, FGFA...Mirage, mig-29, Jaguar...It'll be an unchallenged sky for a long period to come...

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This talk will go OT...
anyways I am just saying..the way Indian did respond in difficult times by mastering few things...Iranians can do too at crude level...Lets leave it at that, Though I agree they exaggerate..

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sukhoi 30's are costing $90 million...with the payload capacity of rafale and price aprox. $95 million We'll be able to make rafale carry Brahmos as well...secondly the 126 deal with missiles it fits in $12 billion budget...

I am dillydallying between Rafale and typhoon only...

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Iranians are like Indians, one of most creative and super smart breed...They are equal genius in Math and Poetry as Indians...Don't underestimate them and they have money also...
Zoroastrians are of Iranian origin only, which we call Parsi's in India...

Though I still find they exaggerate things...

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There are many google books down loaders, you choose what suits you...to get a book free of cost, either you go to Gigapedia.org, or you download it from google books the way I suggested...

Time consuming! try buying the book...

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Why people sitting in USA I always find ranting against it...anyways, uncle is not arm twisting, its on us to win over our devils...

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ramana wrote:M.L.Sali India-China Border Dispute

Published in 1998

Can someone pdf this book?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88RtMNLpX6I

try this...it works

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FBW failure? Must be Indian software coolies :rotfl: :rotfl: Hey shiv..the day these coolies stop working ...the billions of dollars they send back to india and the amount which they earn due to outsourcing .. .. will dry up.....further , money will dry up from the pockets of govt of india ..and th...

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some of pics weren't posted earlier in them...but WOW, I wanna see LCA's...Thanks

added later :- all of em were on second thought...but still a fascinating sight...

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^^A costly aircraft...

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http://imageshack.us/f/268/mountainrd10kmrdcopy.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/mountainrd10kmrdcopy.jpg/ ^I'm trying to post this image to show in the post from imageshack, but it's not showing never had this problem before. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4450/mountainrd10kmrdcop...

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See I can pretty much explain everything I said in a very convincing way...but looking at back I feel it was right decision to save another day for war...

No statements from my side on this, I just feel that way.

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Exactly...They forget the start was syllabic, when they summon Reverse Engineering as if its a miracle...If you don't know what to look for in a market, how you gonna locate it...If you are not facing a problem you will never understand what and where to look for... This inherent thing about designi...

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Yeah, turbines, Radar, stealth and satellite capability to detect and map nukes...

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Reverse Engineering is never the first step...First step is starting to do it i.e. If in our mind first step is reverse engineering, its fundamentally wrong...its not a good investment, as making a 12 year kid do PHD... fundamentally wrong means when we are kid we might wanna be someone...but when w...

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It has much less moving parts than the typhoon thus less maintenance required and less risk of failure (fixed intake, probe, radar, no dorsal airbrake). Basically Typoon Gmbh will need to make an extremly agressive commercial offer with an exellent offsset package to win the deal. In the end I thin...

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MKIzation of the fighter...Then its typhoon...It has all the essential ingredients and surplus space to do it...May in matter of MKIzation cost analysis Rafale may go down, another loss for a totally different reason...

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Strictly speeaking reverse engineering is illlegal , ofcourse you can always take the risk and try to reverse engineer a product you may succeed , fail or succeed partially , eventually the OEM would come to know that you are using reverse engineer product and are not paying lic fee for it and you ...

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cant you say anything without using adjectives...

Why don't you go back and read the start of discussion thread to advocate Gripen...If you want I can find you email of NDTV Vishnu for you, you guys could catch up...

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missiles are extra...as I mentioned.. TOT, training, simulators? are they going to cost a billion? or as reports are popping up...surplus of $8 billion for TOT, training, simulator...? you believe in it... What is TOT exactly? how does it happen. what are aspects of TOT...I think is phase wise absor...

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ya it is...it always was... If you remember last 42 MKI upgraded cost was 3.25 billion for 42 mki's i.e. aprx. $77-80 million per piece, it was new price quote for new tender apart from previous ones... http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2010-06-26/india/28278061_1_sukhoi-fighters-mmrca and...

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IAF’s technical report and its assessment by the MoD were put up recently to Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh and National Security Adviser Shiv Shankar Menon for the process to move forward. Both are reported to have endorsed the process as per the technical evaluation of the IAF as the user of th...

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I don't think we need to worry about their production line, that problem is totally out of our context. Only problem is cost, but that is long term issue...I mean we'll take 18 fighter out of shelf i.e. $1.71 billion or around $2 billion with armaments...meanwhile in supply of these 18 we'll be sett...

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But I don't know why many here are considering $20 Bln is for the MMRCA. It makes the planes 194 Million a piece. Even 12 Billion is an overkill as the price of Rafale is assumed to be around 70 Million Max sometime back. Compare that with Mig35 at around 40 Million a piece but it is a past matter....

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But this issue of $12 billion not being enough for 126 mmrca was always there...
Since its the only issue to dwell upon now at this stage we are magnifying it to this extent...overthinking on it.

I guess we'll get what we want...

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but then tailfin indeed look odd...It is F5...

Terribly sorry for dillydallying...its F5...http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... rs-355422/

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Nope its hawker hunter...

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Chile--- ... 6e546ba55f

Last official flight for Chilean Air Force, was then sold to EMBRAER and registered PP-XHH.(Scanned from picture).

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Mirage 2000c?

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SaiK wrote:upgrades for M2K was so high, and none complained that seriously.. now what? voice of Russia is all up to?

I am sure BR is one of their source...The timing is impeccable.

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Tendering is most standard way of evaluation and awarding contract in any form of industry and Its not crap, We have made a great headway in that...We also cant bring down a nationally driven process to our personal opine... I just hope that being involved in such a long driven evaluation, they have...

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I am making a college and contractor was asking me a quote per sqft, not acceptable to me. He also asked a down payment so that he can trust us. I felt offended that its not he who is doing a favour but me that I am giving him job... What I did...I just cancelled him doing it and decided to do it my...

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If you want to make a difference, you are no more ordinary...

See in India I think educating the masses about military is almost like sex education...Its not official in our text book, they know it as much they know it and however they know it...There needs to be official scientific myth busters...

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I am amazed how some people are showing Ostrich mentality here. China threatens India in all possible ways and India doesn't speak anything back with courage. Pakistan sends terrorists to India and India still doesn't take any action against Pakistan. What did India do , to get back Master Mind of ...

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^^none of example stands as ground for acrimonious or affable relationship...These things will go on for centuries once started else other dissipates away...best way is to keep balance, keep talking and exploring options, while remaining ready for war...and boosting trade in between to cry out if te...

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What are the chances of India gifting away T55 fleet to Afghanistan in coming years and make way for MK2...

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Its not simply about INR depreciating...its a good thing sometimes for exports, but its not good if its an indicator of less investment from foreign countries, fiscal deficit increasing and other burdens rising...Europe is one of biggest investor in Indian and Chinese economy...Europe collapsing mea...

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a) true, b) true, c) true... See its just a phase in my mind, if not market...where I've got these doubts, they might resonate to few and unsubstantial to few...all I am saying, If, god forbid, We are not so robust to be overindulgent...its ok to shorten the dress...That is it... P.S...sarcasm is go...

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Buy 60 Rafales plus UAE and Qatari Mirage 2000s! or MiG-35s. I am afraid that if the Gripen is bought, the LCA will get the boot. That would be worst than buying Rafale or typhoon overpriced...LCA and Arjun are the foundation, There will be no building without them...hope its already in FAQ thread ...

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This deal is of 614,360,250,000.00 INR for 126 unit $95m/rafale @1.00 USD=51.3250 INR today...excluding armament... Issue is not exactly rupee only depreciating...its also about money drying up or evaporating as non-existent... But hopefully all my fears are rookie fears only...I wonder where China ...

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Ya its better to keep it within the budget of $12b...however Rupee declines...We can increase orders when we'll be in better situation to deal with it...

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