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by Cosmo_R
02 Sep 2017 04:59
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 4822
Views: 1474991

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

I've lost the link but I remember reading that is some discussion underway about fitting the F35B with the F35 wings. If that happens, would they be foldable? I assume you mentioned F-35C wings. No it would not happen because it would adversely impact performance where it matters. One could possibl...
by Cosmo_R
02 Sep 2017 01:31
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 4822
Views: 1474991

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

[.... The elevator issue is not small. Being able to operate within the design specifications of the elevators would be a key requirement and being able to demonstrate that they can successfully do this without requiring expensive modifications to the elevators, and/or the aircraft would give them ...
by Cosmo_R
01 Sep 2017 08:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Transport Aircraft for IAF
Replies: 4074
Views: 806369

Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

... We missed out on our additional 6 option. Even tiny country like UK has 8 C-17s. Don't worry, we will do the same with many more on top of the M2K line that could have been transferred to India. We'll dither on the F-16/F35, the Soryus etc. etc. until they go out of production. Then we get inte...
by Cosmo_R
01 Sep 2017 08:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: International Aerospace Discussion
Replies: 4918
Views: 1187940

Re: International Aerospace Discussion

How to kill a Raptor https://hushkit.net/2017/08/29/how-to-kill-a-raptor/ Interesting day dreams. " Here are several ways the F-22 could be countered." There is an old saying (always used by economists in every conversation): ceteris paribus—all things being equal. But all things are not ...
by Cosmo_R
01 Sep 2017 08:05
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: International Aerospace Discussion
Replies: 4918
Views: 1187940

Re: International Aerospace Discussion

NRao wrote:Whatever happened to India joining FVL?
Like Brazil, which is the country of the future and always will be, so also the FVL. There's value in tacking 'future' onto 'not now' items.
by Cosmo_R
31 Aug 2017 21:26
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Artillery: News & Discussion
Replies: 4811
Views: 1362289

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

Karan M wrote:..Options exist, the will is required. ..
We don't even have a full time defense minister. What does that say about will?
by Cosmo_R
31 Aug 2017 21:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Terroristan - June 20, 2017
Replies: 2847
Views: 658038

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - June 20, 2017

Chaudhry NoSaar claimed yesterday that US aid has amounted to "peanuts" (and no where in billions)! Well, now we know. It has been $33 billion since 2002. Aid! Not loans. This is on top of reimbursements of expenses for services rendered. Let the gujranwala accountants get to work on this...
by Cosmo_R
31 Aug 2017 04:52
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017
Replies: 3500
Views: 1020233

Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

... That's exactly the point of discussion. That this engine is dead for USA but has lot of value therefore we should co develop with GE a& RR for projects 20 year down the line. Understand where you're coming from. But, realize Gorshkov was dead for Russia but we decided it could re resurrecte...
by Cosmo_R
29 Aug 2017 07:31
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
Replies: 5318
Views: 2351378

Re: Indian Military Helicopters

^^^Any discussion in one language (English for example) that references a name rooted in another (for example 'Anil Dikshit') has immense (and unfortunate) connotations. 'Tejas' (pronounced like 'TayJuice') is also often wrongly pronounced 'Teyhas' which doesn't sound too menacing. FWIW, Hunt & ...
by Cosmo_R
28 Aug 2017 03:49
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017
Replies: 3500
Views: 1020233

Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Is India on the Verge of Building a Super Jet Fighter?

Deleted by poster in the interest of preserving safe harbor protection for forum. Inadvertently posted entire article instead of fair use extracts.
by Cosmo_R
27 Aug 2017 05:46
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter
Replies: 5424
Views: 1243383

Re: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter

That is the whole point. SEF, and actually investing in a duplicate capability should provide some strategic benefit and if not, it should be set aside. Buy more Rafale's or simply involve private industry in the LCA assembly process. But there is no need to pursue DTTI and MII SEF acquisition stra...
by Cosmo_R
27 Aug 2017 05:04
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter
Replies: 5424
Views: 1243383

Re: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter

..... Politically, that might make sense. Technologically or economically or strategically (expediency) wise it doesn't. Yes. But Indian politics is always about winning the next election. It's a 24x7x365 preoccupation at the expense of accountability and governance for which there is little time. ...
by Cosmo_R
26 Aug 2017 19:33
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter
Replies: 5424
Views: 1243383

Re: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter

@Viv S: Yeah I know, that's why wet dreams (unobtainable objects) remain...wet. :) One thing we should all be clear on in the MII scenario is that the primary objective (from GoI's POV) is the number of Indian jobs NOT ToT. We seem to be conflating the two. You are right on FACO=Maintenance opportun...
by Cosmo_R
26 Aug 2017 19:14
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter
Replies: 5424
Views: 1243383

Re: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter

... LM's offer right now is useless. It teaches us nothing new. We might as well save the money and get them imported directly from the current assembly line. It will be cheaper and faster. The LM offer was in response to MII. They would be delighted to export new build F-16s from the US and they w...
by Cosmo_R
26 Aug 2017 04:54
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 4822
Views: 1474991

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

kit wrote:..

not necessarily a bad thing when you consider how long the Vikramaditya is going to be around ..15 yr at the most I guess
Yeah just about as long as it took to refurbish and commission. Gotta hand it to the sharp negotiators on our side.
by Cosmo_R
26 Aug 2017 04:46
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Nuclear Submarines -3
Replies: 2005
Views: 596522

Re: Indian Nuclear Submarines -3

nachiket wrote:The first one is a USN Ohio class submarine - USS Pennsylvania. Karnad should really know better.
Karnad does not know better. Just like Sputnik News, best to ignore.
by Cosmo_R
26 Aug 2017 04:39
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017
Replies: 3500
Views: 1020233

Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Another 36 Rafale for ~$8.5 billion +, then another 36 for $8.5 billion ++ and pretty soon it will add up to some serious money :) . If the IAF has its way on this, forget the LCA, AMCA, FGFA. We will be importing les tournevis too. This is the MIF vs MII.
by Cosmo_R
25 Aug 2017 18:49
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter
Replies: 5424
Views: 1243383

Re: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter

.... Your second para...just want to confirm...is this what you actually mean? ***It all boils down to cost of capability. On that score, the F-35 is a no brainer. If you want MII with local employment, F-35 is your path (very costly one) to your aerospace industry. F-16 is just as lethal as a F-35...
by Cosmo_R
25 Aug 2017 04:13
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter
Replies: 5424
Views: 1243383

Re: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter

... Is purchasing 70-110 million dollar 3rd gen unit a good idea when we could look at adding F-35A/B at similar costs for IAF and IN that bring capabilities that we do not posses at the moment. Good observation. This was the same problem with the Rafale (and with the MKIs). Domestic production of ...
by Cosmo_R
23 Aug 2017 05:14
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Replies: 8984
Views: 2618071

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Also, the costs of shipping in supplies by air about 10 times higher than the conventional route - $3/lb to 30¢/lb for surface transport. Those are not sustainable figures for a prolonged period of operations. THE AFGHAN-PAK LOGISTICS CHALLENGE IN 2012 - Jan 2011 It's not just the cost of air deliv...
by Cosmo_R
22 Aug 2017 22:09
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Replies: 8984
Views: 2618071

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

.. India wont put any boots on ground on a foreign country after IPKF fiasco no political party has the stomach for it, The only way for India to be in Afghanistan would be under UN Mandate. In the past GWB Jr wanted India soldiers in IRaq and we refused it then... No UN mandate. China will veto it.
by Cosmo_R
22 Aug 2017 22:07
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Replies: 8984
Views: 2618071

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

I have a really basic question. How tough can the US get on Pakistan while relying on it to provide access to Afghanistan? The Northern Distribution Route is a non-starter given relations with Russia. The reference to India (billions in trade etc.) in Trump's speech is a throwaway line he himself in...
by Cosmo_R
22 Aug 2017 04:15
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Replies: 8984
Views: 2618071

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

These guys are politicians not the masses like you and me. They see the GOP as offering more opportunity for 'privileged minorities' like Indians and Cubans. The Dems have long taken minorities for granted ("You'll never vote for the GOP anyway"). Hailey, Jindal and Ayyadurai wouldn't get...
by Cosmo_R
22 Aug 2017 02:37
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter
Replies: 5424
Views: 1243383

Re: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter

... What experience does Adani or Tata have in assembling fighters? .... If they are not going to poach HAL employees, they will have to train people. And that learning curve takes time. As a wise old Turk (I'm cribbing from Zorba here) told me: "experience only matters if the employees have t...
by Cosmo_R
21 Aug 2017 18:44
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Replies: 8984
Views: 2618071

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

^^^^ The Hayleys, Jindals, and now this Ayyadurai chap routinely tout the GOP as the party of opportunity and how the Democrats are the true racists. Yet, it is the GOP (including its Leader) that wants to repeal the 1967 Immigration law. If the GOP had its druthers, Hayley, Jindal, and Ayyadurai w...
by Cosmo_R
21 Aug 2017 04:36
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Replies: 8984
Views: 2618071

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

[... But it should be obvious the US wants us to get a bloody nose, preferably a humiliating defeat that leaves Indian territory under Chinese occupation. Hoping to someday get our territory back, we'd have to go begging the US for political support and arms. .. No that is not obvious. What is obvi...
by Cosmo_R
20 Aug 2017 04:27
Forum: Science, Economics & Technology Forum
Topic: States News and Discussions
Replies: 1154
Views: 274642

Re: States News and Discussions

Heartless Delhi "In August 2016, a 40-year-old e-rickshaw driver was hit by a tempo in west Delhi’s Subhash Nagar. He lay on the road for 90 minutes but no one came to his aid. In fact, a CCTV grab later showed a man walking up to the grievously wounded man only to steal his mobile phone. I won...
by Cosmo_R
19 Aug 2017 22:21
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: CDS, Tri-Services Issues & Integration Debate
Replies: 330
Views: 180374

Re: CDS, Tri-Services Issues & Integration Debate

WTF did PN Haskar contribute at simla, when IG foolishly gave away all the hard won battle gains to let bhutto off the hook and left India holding the empty bag?? why did we not settle niggling border issues with the beedis at the same time?? traded some land elsewhere, to widen the chicken's neck ...
by Cosmo_R
16 Aug 2017 02:55
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 4822
Views: 1474991

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Sell the Vicky back to the Russians along with the 29s, convert the Vikrant to a training vessel and buy 4 Wasp class size based on the Vikrant hull design to carry 20 F35Bs each and be done with it. If the IN, let the Russians corner them into elevators that locked in the 29s for the Gorshkov, that...
by Cosmo_R
15 Aug 2017 19:37
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 4822
Views: 1474991

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

"You are basically then back to MiG-29Ks, and the Naval LCA." Exactly.If the 29ks were working as advertised, we would not be having discussions. The NLCA is a long ways away. Given this: "Naval Chief Admiral Sunil Lanba had said in December 2016, that the LCA was "not up to the ...
by Cosmo_R
15 Aug 2017 18:47
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 4822
Views: 1474991

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

^^^What's more efficient: changing the lift or getting a new cv?
by Cosmo_R
14 Aug 2017 20:05
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter
Replies: 5424
Views: 1243383

Re: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter

@VIvS ^^^. Exactly. Also, unit costs (by definition) are impacted by the economic order quantity. Buy one widget vs 1k and unit costs will be affected.
by Cosmo_R
14 Aug 2017 19:59
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 5322
Views: 1853519

Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Does anyone have an image of a Darin II (before) and Darin III (after) cockpit?
by Cosmo_R
14 Aug 2017 05:41
Forum: Science, Economics & Technology Forum
Topic: Civil Aviation Development & Discussion
Replies: 6031
Views: 1364405

Re: Civil Aviation Development & Discussion

I assume Civil Aviation icludes our esteemed Air India. "because if a decision on Air India (stake sale) is taken, I hope this company also doesn’t go to some other party. Any business that is profitable should be encouraged by the government,” Gadkari said. http://www.hindustantimes.com/busine...
by Cosmo_R
14 Aug 2017 05:11
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter
Replies: 5424
Views: 1243383

Re: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter

All these theories about economy of scale make me laugh ; look around fighter aircraft are not commodities which everyone makes talk about economy of scale may be relevant to actual production cost of LM coming down but that does not anywhere imply that they will pass it to consumer this is not som...
by Cosmo_R
13 Aug 2017 04:28
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles: News & Discussion
Replies: 3546
Views: 961080

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - August 9, 2014

OFB is an anachronism. We have met the enemy and he is OFB
by Cosmo_R
12 Aug 2017 05:30
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Terroristan - June 20, 2017
Replies: 2847
Views: 658038

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - June 20, 2017

Arabic written left to right and south to north. Any which way but(t)...
by Cosmo_R
11 Aug 2017 16:59
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Project 75I - It Begins
Replies: 1858
Views: 605148

Re: Project 75I- It Begins

Further on the 'Bullet Train' way to do the Soryu. I would guess that the Japanese have learned that they cannot jump start their MIC exports by trying to mimic long time players or to hold out gauzy visions of 'strategic collaboration'. "Japan was slow to commit to build all vessels at South A...