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by ramana
31 Oct 2002 02:05
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Remembering a War: The 1962 Indo-China War
Replies: 224
Views: 142238

Re: Remembering a War: The 1962 Indo-China War

Kaushal, When you are in B'Lore try to contact this gentleman.... 10 April 2002 9.30 am. NIAS Lecture Hall Speaker: Mr Arvind Kumar Title: Review on 'War and Diplomacy in Kashmir during 1947-1948' Abstract The recent revelations made by Sri C Dasgupta in his book 'War and Diplomacy in Kashmir during...
by ramana
30 Oct 2002 04:48
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: India's Inspirational Personalities
Replies: 111
Views: 87245

Re: India's Inspirational Personalities

From Tribune 10/30/02.... German author says life is peculiar in India IF saints and emperors-turned-saints inspired foreigners writing on India in the last century, “promising” politicians and “straightforward” censusmen are filling the gap in the 21st century. The new repertoire of inspiration inc...
by ramana
29 Oct 2002 01:53
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Why were B-24 Liberators demolished after World War II?
Replies: 20
Views: 23092

Re: Why were B-24 Liberators demolished after World War II?

Kaushal, Raja Menon has some insight about this and I posted his review of Bharat Karnad's book in the Book Reviews folder in the SSI forum.

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=004987;p=3
by ramana
28 Oct 2002 23:21
Forum: Military Exercises Archive
Topic: Cope India 2002
Replies: 65
Views: 37621

Re: Cope India 2002

The IAF exercised with RAF and USAF in 1963 in Operation Shikshak. The aftermath was the decision to upgrade the air defence Netwrok with radars etc. The idea was what role could the Western Air Forces in case of need for help against China. Needless to say not much.
by ramana
25 Oct 2002 21:34
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Remembering a War: The 1962 Indo-China War
Replies: 224
Views: 142238

Re: Remembering a War: The 1962 Indo-China War

Kaushal, Could the 1962 war be considered a part of the Great Game?
by ramana
23 Oct 2002 00:37
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Remembering a War: The 1962 Indo-China War
Replies: 224
Views: 142238

Re: Remembering a War: The 1962 Indo-China War

Johann, there is a book "On the roof of the world" by George Pattersen(?). It chronicles some exploits of Khampa rebels. There was also an old Reader's Digest article in late sixties.

I would look for accounts of US personnel on this subject and not GOI and their OSA rules.
by ramana
09 Oct 2002 03:23
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: The Indian Air Force's Iraqi connections
Replies: 40
Views: 37484

Re: The Indian Air Force's Iraqi connections

Tim Why dont you post them here and let everyone also share the info?
by ramana
02 Oct 2002 02:15
Forum: News Folders Archive
Topic: Indian Air Force -- News Folder -- October 2002
Replies: 71
Views: 14391

Re: Indian Air Force -- News Folder -- October 2002

From upi.com UPI hears.... 0- This week for the first time India's air force -- as opposed to its Agni-2 missile, still under development -- can nuke China, thanks to its new Russian-supplied Sukhoi-30 MKI. The new nuclear-capable fighter-bomber was modified to Indian designs to deliver an 8-ton bom...
by ramana
28 Aug 2002 20:47
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Books that cover IAF and its History
Replies: 69
Views: 53257

Re: Books that cover IAF and its History

Book Review : Marshal of the Indian Air Force - Rupa & Co ---------------------- Marshal of the Indian Air Force Rupa & Co. August 28, 2002 Bigger Picture More Pictures Arjan Singh, DFC Marshall of the Indian Air Force Rupa Charitavali Series Rupa & Co. India Price: Rs 95 Pages 88 In Apr...
by ramana
27 Jul 2002 01:24
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: The state of the armor - Indian and Pak tanks
Replies: 111
Views: 72397

Re: The state of the armor - Indian and Pak tanks

Thanks Nitin for the insight. From the Nag link you gave "Eight missiles are carried in two quadruple launchers. Launchers mounted on either side are linked to a nose-mounted stabilized thermal sight and a laser range-finder package. The weight is signicant for the ALH. That means the Russian 2...
by ramana
26 Jul 2002 23:21
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: The state of the armor - Indian and Pak tanks
Replies: 111
Views: 72397

Re: The state of the armor - Indian and Pak tanks

GD I saw the specs for the Dhruv for the IAF and IA version. Looks very good with 8 ATGMS and the 20mm cannon. Should make mincemeat of any TSP tanks. Some questions: - Why was the 20mm cannon chosen? - Was the 23mm gun of the Mi-35 too heavy? And does this mean IA/IAF have to get new 20mm ammo? - W...
by ramana
25 Jul 2002 01:44
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Books that cover IAF and its History
Replies: 69
Views: 53257

Re: Books that cover IAF and its History

Per Clausewitz, War is an extension of diplomacy. So just publishing the MoD and IA archives is not enough. One should be allowed to see the MEA and the political masters and how they performed. As I recall the KRC had a lot of stuff expunged about the events from May 6 to May 24th. It was rumoured ...
by ramana
24 Jul 2002 01:19
Forum: News Folders Archive
Topic: Indian Navy - News Folder - July 2002
Replies: 14
Views: 3592

Re: Indian Navy - News Folder - July 2002

STRATMAG Private sector to work on Indian submarine THE INDIAN military has brought in private participation to work on parts of a highly classified nuclear submarine and test launcher for a nuclear-tipped sub-launched cruise missile (SLCM). According to the Jane's Defence Weekly, the Defence Resea...
by ramana
12 Jul 2002 01:01
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Indian Road Development
Replies: 282
Views: 135907

Re: Indian Road Development

Sridhar or Vick would you like to summarize the info on this thread in say 1000 words and give the essential links for a summary article? A lot of good information is posted and its a pity if it gets lost as soon as the thread's life is over.
by ramana
11 Jul 2002 23:56
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Seismology for Dummies: Guesstimating nuke test yields
Replies: 150
Views: 49104

Re: Seismology for Dummies: Guesstimating nuke test yields

N^3 is it Douglas you are referring to?
by ramana
11 Jul 2002 00:20
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Seismology for Dummies: Guesstimating nuke test yields
Replies: 150
Views: 49104

Re: Seismology for Dummies: Guesstimating nuke test yields

Thanks Arun for the ringing endorsement but even Homer nods. The triggering was simulataneous but there was delay due to physical separation of the test shafts. Here is the description: Indian Explosions of May 11, 1998 : An Analysis of Global Seismic Bodywave Magnitude Estimates "The first thr...
by ramana
09 Jul 2002 03:35
Forum: News Folders Archive
Topic: Indian Army - News Folder - July 2002
Replies: 33
Views: 8712

Re: Indian Army - News Folder - July 2002

Sainik Samachar: A Joint Exercise for Greater Stability

Balance Iroquois
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Punjab Regiment History released: A Chronicle of Bravery
by ramana
09 Jul 2002 01:00
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Seismology for Dummies: Guesstimating nuke test yields
Replies: 150
Views: 49104

Re: Seismology for Dummies: Guesstimating nuke test yields

The explosions were conducted 1km apart and timed with .25 sec delay. The initial effects of the explosion are not detectable outside except for the cavity formation (by satellite pictures etc.) The seismic waves are of 1 hz to 10 Hz as Sunil says. Only the 1 Hz waves travel over teleseismic distane...
by ramana
29 Jun 2002 02:16
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Arjun – To be or not to be (?)
Replies: 248
Views: 98354

Re: Arjun – To be or not to be (?)

Originally posted by kamdev: Also I am simultaneously posting on 3 different forums, so I am not all that concentrated alone here. Hope you understand. PS: next time should you find anything controversial, pls delete it or ask me to do it. This way i wont feel that i am being harrased for nothing.[...
by ramana
29 Jun 2002 00:46
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Arjun – To be or not to be (?)
Replies: 248
Views: 98354

Re: Arjun – To be or not to be (?)

kamdev I note a lackadaiscal outlook on your part while participating in the Forum . You generally throw some facts and scoot or reply with what appears to be a superior attitude. I am putting it down to newness with the forum and mistaking it for soc.culture.indian free for all. In future if you ci...
by ramana
28 Jun 2002 22:55
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Arjun – To be or not to be (?)
Replies: 248
Views: 98354

Re: Arjun – To be or not to be (?)

GD this is for you!!!
Pioneer has Prvin Sawheny : Conventional parity with Pakistan

Will post the text in the other forum and can discuss there.
by ramana
28 Jun 2002 22:45
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Arjun – To be or not to be (?)
Replies: 248
Views: 98354

Re: Arjun – To be or not to be (?)

The Gole interview is from The week published three years ago.
by ramana
28 Jun 2002 01:36
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: New Artillery Division raised for the Indian Army
Replies: 42
Views: 23013

Re: New Artillery Division raised for the Indian Army

Yogi thanks for the insight. Have you read Maj Gen Sukhwant Singh's three volume book on India's wars since Independence? May be Dsandhu can look it up. In it he mentions how he had come up with a plan in for all the divisional guns to fire in unison to deliver large amounts of shells to support a m...
by ramana
28 Jun 2002 00:02
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism
Replies: 33
Views: 27976

Re: Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism

Kaushal I stand corrected about Averroes date of death. But if he is the high point of Islamic intellectuals then the Islamic inroads into India were while it was on the wane. Here is an opinion in Rediff, from Israel on how Kashmir fits into the global jihadi policy. Messrs Musharraf and Arafat ---...
by ramana
27 Jun 2002 23:25
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Arjun – To be or not to be (?)
Replies: 248
Views: 98354

Re: Arjun – To be or not to be (?)

The Arjun might yet see the day in its sibling Bhim. So if the 155mm self propelled arty program picks up parts of the Arjun could still be around.
by ramana
27 Jun 2002 22:35
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Arjun – To be or not to be (?)
Replies: 248
Views: 98354

Re: Arjun – To be or not to be (?)

Raj very good summary and conclusions. The key was the 1990s trials and foot dragging. Wonder if the Army types are held accountable for the blue sky requirements or they get prmoted and eventually retire with great honors? In the US there is an Act of Congress which decress that all purchases for t...
by ramana
20 Jun 2002 21:40
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism
Replies: 33
Views: 27976

Re: Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism

The Jihad conquests article is interesting for two reasons. Inspite of globalization it has a narrow focus on Judeo-Christians and ignores the Hindus who suffered equally if not more under jihad. The Hindus were treated worse than dhimmis as they were not of the book. The compromise of the Middle ag...
by ramana
20 Jun 2002 21:02
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism
Replies: 33
Views: 27976

Re: Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism

For sake of completeness. ramana Member Member # 356 posted 20 June 2002 10:21 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- National Review: Our Ally, our problem ----------------------------------------- June 18, 2002 8:45 a.m. Our Ally, Our Problem Pakistan i...
by ramana
20 Jun 2002 10:18
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism
Replies: 33
Views: 27976

Re: Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism

Arun, While the Khilafat movement was marignal in its impact on restoring it in Turkey (yes the Turkish emporer took that title and it was being abolished by Attaturk) it had a seminal impact on some Indian muslims and served to rally them under a unifying cause. htis was later converted not the mov...
by ramana
19 Jun 2002 23:56
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism
Replies: 33
Views: 27976

Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism

The state of Pakistan came into existence on August 14, 1947 after Partition from British India. Since its formation it has embarked on a collision course with India. In addition to starting three wars, the Kargil war like situation it has carried on a proxy war in Kashmir and supported terrorists m...
by ramana
18 Jun 2002 21:33
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indo-US Operations in J&K
Replies: 27
Views: 24665

Re: Indo-US Operations in J&K

The UPI link is provided here: Analysis: Al Qaida's privileged sanctuary "The latest reports from Pakistan are ringing alarm bells throughout the Western intelligence community. Disinformation about U.S. intentions is being circulated by "midlevel" Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) ag...
by ramana
12 Jun 2002 22:52
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled
Replies: 114
Views: 76228

Re: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled

Thanks Nandu. So Dowd was calling it a red herring! Kudos sunil. We bow to thee and Umrao jaan.
Aside for UJ. If you werent so prolific with your witticisms we would have understood your message earlier. And I did tell you this in your other avatars!!!
by ramana
12 Jun 2002 22:13
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled
Replies: 114
Views: 76228

Re: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled

Thanks a lot Rak. And hats of the Sunil for thinking the situation through and wonderng about red herrings.
What are 'head fakes'? Does she mean head shakes implying that Z is shaking his head in response to questions? Or something else all together.
by ramana
12 Jun 2002 22:06
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled
Replies: 114
Views: 76228

Re: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled

Sunil I heard on NPR that Maureen Dowd has a column in NY Times(June 12, 2002) where she thinks that this Muhajir guy was set up by Al Zubeydah. So maybe he sacrificed a pawn (goat) to protect a higher piece?
Can anyvone post full text of this column please?
by ramana
10 Jun 2002 22:18
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled
Replies: 114
Views: 76228

Re: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled

Umrao yes you have been telling about this for a long time. In fact in the Pak nuke thread you made a post on June 7th about the dangers of a suitcase thing from Pakistan and how Tim had poohpoohed us. So you were ahead of the curve. I should have made myself clear that jash was the one to make the ...
by ramana
10 Jun 2002 21:11
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled
Replies: 114
Views: 76228

Re: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled

jash is right. This is no AlQ/OBL operation. Training in radioactive compounds is involeved. It means the TSP govt agencies are involved no matter what the spin is. Rememeber the scientists connected to TSP establishment who were OBL sympathizers? All this points to one thing the nightmare scenario ...
by ramana
06 Jun 2002 10:07
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: A trip down Bharat-Rakshak memory lane.....
Replies: 100
Views: 84430

Re: A trip down Bharat-Rakshak memory lane.....

George Please re-send. Thanks, ramana