Bharat Rakshak

Alok_N

Well said! As long as we spake Meta-Physics onlee and do not understand the needs and desires of society as a whole, we are not on the Dharmic path. where is the connection between the two activities? ... parse this sentence for me: "As long as we only pursue nuclear bombs and do not understan...

Alok_N

Maybe you can tell them how atoms are made of energy and Hinduism is at the forefront of scientific thought. That is sure to make them feel better. neither will telling them that "the lack of a fire-extinguisher on a mountain top spawned a religion" help them ... why do you mix economic r...

Alok_N

Problem is I have late start and Sanskrit is not easy to learn (lame excuse). IMO, knowing Sanskrit is good but not essential ... ultimately, it is about contemplation ... all the words in the world, whether they are in Sanskrit or Swahili, will not help unless one contemplates ... in essence, do s...

Alok_N

How do you know anything when your mind is blank, and no thoughts arise ? There are two kinds of knowing. sivab. with that distinction, you also wipe out the distinction between Hindu thought and any other thought/religion ... if the "experience of Truth" by a "select few" is th...

Alok_N

In SD, God did not create but constructed or set the stage for material universe and its controling laws ( Srishti and Rachna havd differenet meaning). my limited knowledge on such subjects has it that the Hindu model for time is also cyclic, consisting of Yugas, supercycles etc ... does this model...

Alok_N

where did elephant crap enter the picture?

Alok_N

[ISLAMABAD: Indus Water Commissioner Syed Jamaat Ali Shah said on Tuesday that Pakistan would raise its objections over the Uri-2 Power Project in Indian-held Kashmir in a meeting to be held in New Delhi in May this year. I have a suggestion ... for every new project that India plans, an appendix s...

Alok_N

religious beliefs enter in subtle manners in science ... for example, Big Bang Cosmology is in consonance with "creation" ... physicists may argue with "creationists" about the mechanics of creation, i.e., it is a 14 billion year process versus 6 days ... however, they still have...

Alok_N

Acharya, let's talk on yahoo mail ...

Alok_N

If Valkan ji could explain what is 'God' and the theory of creation then the whole discussion would fall in place. there is a serious issue here ... SJA is absolute and hence, true at all times ... there is "infinite time translation symmetry" in that reality ... a "theory of creatio...

Alok_N

Alok ji are you very clear with the very concept of God ? if yes would you please explain the same to me ? The Satyam Jnanam Anantam thingy was something at very high level it never described 'God' clearly(in case I missed out on something would you do me a favour by explaining the same). yes, God ...

Alok_N

actually, one more thought ... for those who believe in a "supernatural" component to reality, rather than a logical "natural" reality ... all folklore and religion is full of "miracles" ... they were defined as miracles by the peers of the society at that time ... it s...

Alok_N

"I yam what I yam" is also different ... these one-liners need to be examined as well: 1. To be or not to be 2. To do is to be 3. To be is to do 4. Doobey-doobey Do Along the same lines ... Descartes was in a restaurent and the waiter asked him, "More Wine?" ... Descartes said, &...

Alok_N

That means all this time you have been trying to prove what is Wrong,rather than telling us what is right.I asked a simple question according to you what is God ? When you would define it is only then I , and other BRF ites (including yours truly) would be able to understand what are you trying to ...

Alok_N

Excellent stuff - these reflect thoughts that i have had time and again http://www.india-forum.com/articles/266/1/Translations,-Or-Travesty-of-Traditions%3F Again, please do not mistake me. I am neither attacking the swamis nor denigrating the role of Gurus in the Indian traditions. I just want you...

Alok_N

Maybe it is my limited sample but I have yet to come across a Hindu who confessed that his/her belief in the superiority of Hindu philosophy is somehow weaker than Christians. that was only one point out of four that you posted ... I have no problems with your personal beliefs ... I was objecting t...

Alok_N

For millions of Hindus Hinduism boils down to: - going to temple, carrying out personal rituals, donating to temples money that may be expropriated for purposes we know nothing about - blindly believing in the supremacy of Hindu thought and philosophy and not caring for justification of actions ran...

Alok_N

Alok Ji, those commandments are perfect for Bs., and those veering As. I think that the A,B, C classification has gone way far beyond what was intended in that example ... IMO, every kid born in India (or, elsewhere for that matter) is perfectly capable of employing Logic to appreciate philosophy ....

Alok_N

The answer, after about 5 months of discussion ( and Alok N has the best memory of it ), was that Dvaita depends on Sensory Perception, and Advaita on Pure Logic. I still get nightmares about it ... just kidding :) my 10 point program above is child's play compared to that mother of all debates ......

Alok_N

I also don't see Valkans, Kumars, Aloks et al deriving to some commandments for Cs and Ds, so that they can take ownerships of hinduism in those commanding spirits. excuse me, but I have! I just didn't spell them out ... here is a start: 1. Thou shalt learn Newton's Laws. 2. Thou shalt learn Kepler...

Alok_N

Who wants to hear a physicist wax about space time? Only other physicists, that's who. People want to hear the passion, the glory of their religion and how they should follow it as their lives progress. that's because the context of this thread is different ... physicists are capable of EvanPhysics...

Alok_N

Valkan,

let's see how this thread progresses ...

Shiv is trying to bring it back to the original premise, i.e., is EJ a threat?

Vishy,

congratulations on giving gyaan to some committee of examiners ...

Alok_N

"Zero represents Absolute Reality. Infinity is the myriad manifestations of that Reality. Their mathematical product, Infinity x 0 is not one number, but all numbers each of which corresponds to individual acts of creation" the basic physical definition is no different ... there is an inf...

Alok_N

continuing with vacuum ... it is essentially "Nirguna" as in, all its quantum numbers are ZERO ... however, through a series of steps too complicated to go into, but basically known as "spontaneous symmetry breaking", physical vacuum generates attributes, i.e., it gives masses to...

Alok_N

Sure gold can take on an infinite number of shapes, but at its core, it still has the requite relationship of electrons, neutrons, etc. that make it alone gold. It has attributes that are not applicable to anything else; even if we cannot imagine what gold is at its most essential, that does not ex...

Alok_N

SaiK wrote:rules and common rules are important..

what is "important" about the "rule" that "I will be Ben Dover and you be Amritraj"?

Alok_N

are we saying that adharma , i.e., conscious ignorance, should be dealt with using extreme prejudice? ... some forms of faith are "legislated ignorance" ... how should a forward-looking society deal with such menace? we legislate in the US that kids have to go to school, i.e., ignorance is...

Alok_N

shiv wrote: does this make the Idol Worshipping Hindu

a) a violent reactionary?
b) a Hindu fundamentalist?
c) a Hindu revivalist?
d) an enemy of secularism?

all of the above ...

Alok_N

Can you protect what has already been lost? excellent point ... IMO, a revival is needed rather than protection ... also, as revivals go, the content has to be recast in today's language ... hence, as I have been ranting, it has to be presented in scientific terminology ... that is the most univers...

Alok_N

Without being immersed in the liquid of Bhakti, the rice won't cook with just the fire of Jnana,- you will only get half-baked, burnt rice. as opposed to immersing one's brain in alcohol and lighting a fire (cigarette)? ... I knew my technique had a serious flaw ... I am stockpiling burnt rice ... ...

Alok_N

uh oh ... it is deja vu all over again ... now aditya is going to get guruji's hammer for saying that bhagvata is not in line with advaita ...

<ducking out>

Alok_N

nitinjindal wrote:I thought I understood it fine. Could you be a little more specific.

specifically, if you understood fine, you would have no difficulty refuting this bogey:

because idols are not symbolizing Him
they symbolize something/someone else

Alok_N

nitinjindal wrote:He gave me a reply, to which I cannot reply since I have limited understanding of religion.

no, you have limited understanding of the part that you quoted "verbatim" ... why not try and understand it before quoting?

Alok_N

why quibble over whether the limitless is absolute bliss or not? ...

anant-anand is potaeto-potaato ...

Alok_N

Thanks Alok. It is very interesting. Rakesh, Here's something more for you from Alok's link. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=psalm%2082;&version=31; rather than quote links from that blog, it would be more interesting if folks were to take on his analysis with an Advaita hat ... the...

Alok_N

Alok_N

Valkan has been firing very well. I don't have much to argue with his views as I agree with them. And you have firing hiding behind him! What to do with you? :) ok, you win ... :) your agenda is unclear, but I have no interest in digging it out ... however, you, as it turns out are completely cluel...

Alok_N

Mere logic doesn't do anything regarding the axioms. mere assertion does not conjure up axioms ... drop your "all knowing" facade and start pin-pointing axioms .... else, you are just another EJ ... :) I am deliberately ignoring the rest of your post unless you substantiate this claim of ...

Alok_N

Isn't there ample evidence for the bolded part in your statement? Once the C is lost, then it will be 'his way or high way..' this is the difficult part ... if everyone played by the same rules, there would be no problem ... what I mean is that there would be a true "free market" of ideas...

Alok_N

But whosoever has spent enough time struggling with advaita and upanishads, knows that upanishads carry more than the system of advaita encompasses. Also advaita is great in providing the larger universal contours, but is very limited in finer level details. The treatment of "Maya", thoug...

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