That is more circumstantial than technical Das Saab.
Platform aside, I am not sure where Dhruv and LCH have different operational doctrines going by sattili ji's assersion.
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- 17 Sep 2014 02:06
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
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- 16 Sep 2014 22:25
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Artillery: News & Discussion
- Replies: 4811
- Views: 1360785
Re: Artillery Discussion Thread
Ammo should be much simpler to transport if the ULH's are in place.
- 16 Sep 2014 22:22
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014
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Re: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014
I wonder why this and the Scorpene saga isn't being called Arm twisting here. Gorshkov escalation seems pennies in comparision.
- 16 Sep 2014 22:18
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
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Re: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
Thanks for the insight. While flight testing the Light Combat Helicopter, a modified version of HAL Dhruv, the Indian Army came to the conclusion that without making any major modifications to the Dhruv air-frame, an armed variant can also be developed and delivered to the army quickly. This variant...
- 16 Sep 2014 20:00
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
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- 16 Sep 2014 19:54
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
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Re: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
I kind of felt so too when I read about dedicated squadrons of Rudra. And these are attached to individual corps along with other types of heli squadrons. But your point sounds more apt for LCH then Rudra. Having a huge number of specialized choppers is hard to afford for IA in my opinion and I thou...
- 16 Sep 2014 19:10
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
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Re: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
Interoperability? Does it make sense for stripping something specialized & using them in a conventional role? Then why build something specialized in the first place? I too think it makes sense saab. I see Dhruv/Rudra as multi role utility platform rather then a specialized one. Most of these m...
- 11 Sep 2014 00:28
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
I was being generic Jamwal ji
- 10 Sep 2014 23:24
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
I can think of updated subsystem validation. Like when ring laser gyros were tested. Could also be different warhead options being validated.
- 10 Sep 2014 23:12
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
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Re: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
Noted!
But how apt is it to compare LCH with a platform that carries a heavier payload, a 30 mm cannon and also the LongBow.
I can't think of anything else with out sounding like an import fanatic.
But how apt is it to compare LCH with a platform that carries a heavier payload, a 30 mm cannon and also the LongBow.
I can't think of anything else with out sounding like an import fanatic.
- 10 Sep 2014 21:51
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3908
- Views: 1156850
Re: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
No abhik. I think we are missing a point here. The LCH is a new addition for IA/IAF. It has its place in the evolving doctrine of IA/IAF.
The Apache's IMO are strictly replacements for the Hinds in the heavy category.
The Apache's IMO are strictly replacements for the Hinds in the heavy category.
- 10 Sep 2014 21:43
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
- Replies: 4246
- Views: 1220474
Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
MP-5 and is indeed sadly inadequate, for room clearing, better options exist, ideally they can quickly wrap up testing of MSMC and order it in great numbers, ideal replacement for a 9mm submachine gun. The MP-5 is good but for 9mm, they can order more Berretta MX-4 which is better than the MP-5 (on...
- 10 Sep 2014 21:35
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
- Replies: 4246
- Views: 1220474
Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
MP5 are very very poor weapon for terrorist threat. It is okay for a "police"action against amateur criminal or wannabee novice terrorist but against a terrorist trained by Pak SF is little less than useless. MP5 and Beretta 9mm are useless super costly imported junk foisted on our forces...
- 10 Sep 2014 21:22
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
- Replies: 3962
- Views: 597546
Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
There is some good headway made by General Atomics in terms of plausible Laser based C-RAM system. This high level partnership exercise can evolve into a more future proof effort if there can be a solid system that can be proposed instead of something that can(?) be addressed by ASTRA, Akash, Barak ...
- 09 Sep 2014 19:50
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
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- Views: 1156850
Re: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
Koti is possibly referring to the BEL datalink2 on the indian P8Is. whether it would be allowed/integrated to the Apaches is a question that needs to be answered. if both LCH and Apaches sport it, they can communicate. Hmm, I had forgotten about the BEL datalink. Or maybe even the Israeli/Indian OD...
- 08 Sep 2014 23:57
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
- Replies: 4026
- Views: 570042
Re: Indian Naval Discussion
In the next 10 years, IN will be mulling the replacement of Shishumar and Early Kilo's probably. We do not want a tender process to begin then right.
- 08 Sep 2014 21:23
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
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Re: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
I think this should be a solvable issue. P-8Is are communicating well arn't they?merlin wrote:How will the Apache's communicate with the Rudras and the LCH?
Which UAV's can the Apache control? Only US ones?
- 08 Sep 2014 21:12
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3908
- Views: 1156850
Re: LCH and other Helicopters Discussion Thread
Is the AH-64 a necessity for India? . I think not! Now, the countries which field both these kind of helicopters in numbers also produce both. We don't. So, how much of an handicap is it if we can't have this pyramidal structure, i.e. we have only the LCH as attack helicopters but in larger numbers...
- 07 Sep 2014 18:47
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Military Humor and related
- Replies: 584
- Views: 216749
- 01 Sep 2014 02:59
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014
- Replies: 3957
- Views: 544391
Re: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014
#SurfingToKillTime: Dassault Systemes S. A. Market Capitalization: $12.89 Billion !!!!!!!!!!!!! Price, Today: $50.40 Price, High: $50.78, Jul 19, 2013 Price, Low: $40.17, Feb 7, 2014 Price, Start: $17.50, Sept 4, 2009 So, why exactly is India going for the Rafale? JK. Market capitalization is not g...
- 01 Sep 2014 02:54
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
- Replies: 4026
- Views: 570042
Re: Indian Naval Discussion
I read quiet a bit about the NH90 thats not positive in the past few months.
http://www.defensie.nl/english/latest/n ... elicopters
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairmo/20120910.aspx
http://www.defensie.nl/english/latest/n ... elicopters
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairmo/20120910.aspx
- 09 Aug 2014 01:57
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Highlighted portion supports my point that SHORAD is only beneficial if it is cheaper than Akash. As Spyder or any other imported SHORADS is more costly, there is no point to import and we should use Akash and later if required Astra. Yes the system is fairly cheap but the problem is AIM-9, Stinger...
- 09 Aug 2014 01:48
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
- Replies: 3962
- Views: 597546
Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
I agree. I don't think that an actual prototype would have been sent out. 1. Prototypes are never painted in the camouflage pattern. 2. There were 6 more missiles shown in the canisters at ADEX. I don't think they have 7 prototypes. And if they had time to make 6 dummies, then could have easily mad...
- 08 Aug 2014 18:35
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
- Replies: 3929
- Views: 558182
Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
I don't get it. How will this benefit the other party? It seems like they only invest in developing something they are not using.
- 07 Aug 2014 19:02
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Attention non-members and lurkers !
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Re: Attn non-members/Not Received Confirmation Email
Sure. Thank you.
- 06 Feb 2014 20:57
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
- Replies: 4026
- Views: 570042
Re: Indian Naval Discussion
I was wondering if US-2's can be suitably modified to be used as ASW aircraft.
The Kamov is a good platform for ship based ASW but these can IMO beef up the shore based ASW capability with a longer range, quicker response and a far higher endurance.
What say.
The Kamov is a good platform for ship based ASW but these can IMO beef up the shore based ASW capability with a longer range, quicker response and a far higher endurance.
What say.
- 06 Feb 2014 20:53
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
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Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Lahat test fired from Helo.
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- 05 Feb 2014 03:27
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Small Arms Thread
- Replies: 4653
- Views: 1517165
Re: Small Arms Thread
Thats a good looking one. It looks closer to an AR then an AK. I hope the operational mechanism is similar to Insas though.
- 28 Jan 2014 02:24
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
- Replies: 3957
- Views: 578235
Re: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
Difference between naval and ground based rafale. I think you can draw similarities between LCA and NLCA.
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- 27 Jan 2014 00:12
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
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Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Some random comments on Arjun
Who is this buffoon?
Seems a decent blog but uneducated comments on Arjun.
Who is this buffoon?
Seems a decent blog but uneducated comments on Arjun.
- 26 Jan 2014 21:35
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions
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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!
It doesn't add up. Why will a 4 gen aircraft cost that much. The initial costs were reasonable and logical. Why will the cost increase to double the initial estimate? I can't get the logic. Newer fulcrums are appearing to be a better choice in my opinion too, as they are capable of dealing with the ...
- 26 Jan 2014 20:27
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Small Arms Thread
- Replies: 4653
- Views: 1517165
Re: Small Arms Thread
My first thought was MP7. But looking closely it resembles some kind of a carbine extension rail for Glock.
Like this?
Like this?
- 24 Jan 2014 21:20
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
- Replies: 4026
- Views: 570042
- 24 Jan 2014 08:14
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
- Replies: 4308
- Views: 599991
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
^ It looks more like a jugaad tractor with all the stuff fixed using fevicol.
I still love it.
I think it is a DRDO item displaying all the external fixings rather then a army version paraded.
I still love it.
I think it is a DRDO item displaying all the external fixings rather then a army version paraded.
- 24 Jan 2014 07:52
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Artillery: News & Discussion
- Replies: 4811
- Views: 1360785
Re: Artillery Discussion Thread
all these winter/summer tests are just bahanas... Very plausible. It would seem that the winter/summer tests could be conducted simultaneously at any time if we really wanted. India's geography includes enough variation to cover all "seasons" at any time regardless of the month. It's free...
- 24 Jan 2014 02:19
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
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- Views: 387209
Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Quoting another recent article for sake of posterity.
I have no contribution or opinion on the discussion.
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I have no contribution or opinion on the discussion.
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- 22 Jan 2014 22:32
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
- Replies: 4019
- Views: 695579
Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
I think the odd paint job is of the range enhancing thermal coating. Maybe its characteristics will be altered if another camo/logo paint job is applied atop.
- 21 Jan 2014 22:09
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions
- Replies: 5222
- Views: 727223
Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!
I am revising my post, so here it is now:- Now let's try LCA with Capital cost of 26 Million dollars +1/3rd for Support equipment, linear depreciation of 90% airframe in 20 years at 31/20 million, annual costs at 1 million we get:- USD 2.6+1.5+1= 5.1 USD million per annum for LCA. How about the fin...
- 19 Jan 2014 21:52
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
- Replies: 3957
- Views: 578235
Re: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
Cross post The last deal between India and Russia for Su-30MKI was for USD 40 million per unit. let us assume annual costs of USD 10 million per aircraft. The cost of Rafale is estimated at around USD 100 million per aircraft. If per annum costs are estimated at 5 million even then cost of ownershi...
- 15 Jan 2014 19:57
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
- Replies: 3929
- Views: 558182
Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
and at risk in a shooting war with many SAMs around? The A-10 is too slow & doesn't fly high enough either. Against the PAF & PLAAF, it will have severe attrition. The Russians have kept the Su-25 around, but its faster & more survivable than the A-10. True. But it can also be seen from...