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AbhishekD wrote:
Its natural if people start voting for political parties that support counter-terror attacks on terrorist hubs in Azamgarh, it would be proper revenge to see people in Azamgarh dying when the milkcan goes off in their houses
I would say that we dont express in a way that borders on supporting violence or terrorism
Dont worry Digvijay singh will support me when i get arrested for terrorism, he will come and protect my human rights and prove my innocence

Mere haath Congress ke saath :mrgreen:
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And furthermore... if the police acted in this manner, showing complete disregard for the writ of Islamist community leaders in their fiefdoms, acting to lay down the law regardless of who broke it and where... there is no reason to believe that it would strengthen the hand of those Islamist leaders. In fact, I believe that it would give courage to those "silent majority" Muslims we talk about, a reassurance that the police and the state will be there for them if they live up to their obligations as good citizens by condemning terrorism and informing on the troublemakers. In the absence of a state presence in certain "no-go zones" (again, justified in the name of "maintaining communal harmony at all costs")... the silent ones have no incentive not to remain silent, as the power vacuum is filled by the Islamist blackmailers, their crony maulvis and their goon squads.

Absolutely.

A State cannot be seen to condone "dissidents". Then that is not a State at all. This is something that this immature democracy doesn't understand.

If a State is seen to be soft on those who are flagrant then in due course of time the victims of that flagrancy gravitate even further away from the State and ironically towards their tormentors.

The term "protection racket" is far more severe in import than what it is made out to be. It is another term for the social contract after all.
Apropos to you observations about the West Coast, peninsular India is now the real hotbed of anti-national activities. In the "north' communal relations have a different dynamic from that in the South with an Azamgarh here and a Deganga there notwithstanding.

The radicalization of a "particular community" in peninsular India is very alarming indeed and this is where the 'gelf interaction' link just cannot be ignored despite the need to put our house in order.
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Raghavender,

Kongress will support you for terror only if you are a non Hindu in India. :P

As being a hindu makes you a saffron terrorist. :rotfl:
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Regarding the blast at Varanasi : and my pointer before for a separate popular initiative to keep track on people's movements and exit/entry of containers/stuff, a start could be made with tracking the main drug porocessing and distribution netwrks, which will be the most efficient way for the mafia and Islamists to organize such incidents.

Consider the following :
Barabanki-Allahabad zone: Akbarpur, Kareilly, Meerapur, Dhumanganj, Naini, Phulpur, Unchwagadhi and Imambara, Ganga Nagar, Beli Kachar, Daraganj and Allahpur.
Varanasi : the guest houses on the banks of Ganga
Kanpur : Anwarganj, Kidwai Nagar, Rawatpur, Fazalganj and Kalyanpur, Bithoor and Bhauti
Gorakhpur : a key point supplying the whole area
Azamgarh : Ghazipur connection
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brihaspati wrote:.
Varanasi : the guest houses on the banks of Ganga

Azamgarh : Ghazipur connection
some addition if i may
Varanasi== processing is done in Mahmoorganj- Gabi- choti gaibi area while guest houses are distribution center.
Azamgarh== more preciscely it is Mau which is the processcing center while Azamgarh is the place for Jihadist.
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Raghavendra wrote:IM sits pretty in Azamgarh, UP govt tells police not to raid hub

Congress, led by party general secretary Digvijay Singh , have spoken out against “harassment” of families of suspected IM cadre in Azamgarh.
Sorry for OT.

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IM hired outsiders to carry out its dirty work
The aim of the Varanasi blast was not to cause a large number of casualties, but to create panic and remind India about the existence of Indian Mujahideen [ Images ], sources involved in investigating the blast told rediff.com.

The low-intensity blast at Sheetla Ghat on Tuesday had killed a two-year-old child and injured scores of others.

The sources pointed out that the men who planted the bomb were hired to do so; they were not members of the IM.

The IM wanted to ensure that the whole country gets a rude reminder of their presence, but was wary of leaving a trail that could lead back to the terror outfit.

Arrested IM operative T Nasir, while speaking about planning the Bengaluru [ Images ] blasts during his interrogation, had said that they were told not to use any local member from the outfit.

According to sources, the men hired to plant the bombs may not be aware of the consequences of their actions. They are told to leave a packet at a specific location and paid an amount between Rs 1,000 and Rs 3,000 for the job. They are warned against trying to look inside the parcel or ask questions about it.

The security agencies have a tougher time identifying these men as they don't have criminal records.

The reconnaissance in the Varnasi blast was carried out by local IM operatives, said sources. They added that the terror outfit zeroed in on the spot as it is always crowded and it is easy to plant a bomb there.

Nasir had told his interrogators that he had hired a couple of labourers to plant bombs before the Bengaluru blasts. The men were ready to carry out the task in return of money and some food.

They may not have known that they were aiding a terror act, said sources, adding that they just planted the bomb in a sealed packet at the specific location.

Though the forensic report of the Varanasi blast is yet to be made public, preliminary investigations indicate that ammonium nitrate was used to assemble the bomb.

The leads gathered by the investigators so far -- including the material used, the modus operandi and the email -- all point to the IM. An Interpol alert has been sounded against IM member Dr Shahnawaz, who is believed to have masterminded the operation and is currently hiding in Sharjah.

The police are also looking for Asadullah Akthar in connection with the blast. They are going through the interrogation reports of arrested terrorists like Salman alias Chotu and T Nasir to glean further clues.
Errr, aren't these "outsiders" also Indian citizens? WTF isnt a massive raid team swooping onto Azamgarh and rounding up the worthies.. Oh wait, forgot that sekoolar parties are in power in centre and state.
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Folks stick to facts and let the speculation go on elsewhere. So Friday has come and gone and still no official confirmation of the explosive used from the forensic labs?

All those who say its Ammonium Nitrate take a look at the size of the stone steps and how they fractured and the iron railing that blew off. And some real expert on that can comment on what it takes to set off NH4 NO3. And look at lack of wires, fuze mechanism etc being recovered.

What happened to that IED in the dustbin claimed to be recovered? Was it just a milk can disposed off?
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Varanasi== processing is done in Mahmoorganj- Gabi- choti gaibi area while guest houses are distribution center.
Azamgarh== more preciscely it is Mau which is the processcing center while Azamgarh is the place for Jihadist.
what about Madanpura and Aadampura?. And if you travel to Azamgarh from varanasi on state highway 73 there are so many Madarsas which have mushroomed in last 20 years, with high boundry walls and huge complex areas. Nobody knows what goes inside there. My relatives say e they hear firing sound very often.
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Gorakhpur : a key point supplying the whole area
Many fake currency rackets are stationed here. At the ground level it is hindus who do all the dirty work for the cheap money. Nothing stops them from doing momentary side work like the one in Varanasi.
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we are missing a news channel parallel thinking of BRF :cry: . Why dont people like us run media :roll:
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^^ Because people like us are not into politics .. those who run media
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Actually you can start a news webiste and provide a blogosphere to spred your world view. Unfortunately we dont have people willing to do that.
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The experts are in a quandry about the nature of the explosive.

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ramana wrote:Folks stick to facts and let the speculation go on elsewhere. So Friday has come and gone and still no official confirmation of the explosive used from the forensic labs?

All those who say its Ammonium Nitrate take a look at the size of the stone steps and how they fractured and the iron railing that blew off. And some real expert on that can comment on what it takes to set off NH4 NO3. And look at lack of wires, fuze mechanism etc being recovered.

What happened to that IED in the dustbin claimed to be recovered? Was it just a milk can disposed off?
Wiki provides enough information on Ammonium nitrate based explosive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANFO

Here is a YouTube video of 5Kg blast of ANFO ( Ammonium Nitrate + Fuel Oil ).
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No luck on email trail; cops focus on Marathwada ‘terror recruitment’

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/No-lu ... nt-/723155
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update:
The lady who had Head Surgery following the blast is now fatality number two.
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Pakistan Army explosive in Varanasi blast? http://www.zeenews.com/news673641.html
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Didnt I say DRDO needs to be brought in?

Dipanker, The labs were able to identify the German Bakery blast even after it was washed down. Unlike in Varanasi. So its not the traditional stuff. Also to shatter such thick stones without creating a fissure path, the exp needs to have high brissance ie is shattering capability.Most low an medium explosives don't have that.

The Shoe, Undie bombers used PETN which has high brissance.
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Why gujarat ATS is involve in investigation?
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The e-mail mentioned Gujarat among many rants. Is another matter that other states mentioned want the Center to take care of them. Besides its the Gujarat ATS that pointed out the possibility of Pak military explosive per zeenews report linked above. The NIA, IB, Maha ATS didn't. UP ATS cannot be expected to be familiar with it.
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My first post in this thread. I still can't imagine or belive that someone was actually able to do a blast in this vicinity. Last time when my brother and father visitied, they told me that there is a gun men everywhere and the whole area is fortified with security. It is simply unimaginable that someone can pull this off.
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ramana wrote:The e-mail mentioned Gujarat among many rants. Is another matter that other states mentioned want the Center to take care of them. Besides its the Gujarat ATS that pointed out the possibility of Pak military explosive per zeenews report linked above. The NIA, IB, Maha ATS didn't. UP ATS cannot be expected to be familiar with it.
Or too familiar, and hence the hesitation and pretension of confusion or "unknown"?
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Ind Express says:
Varanasi blast continues to fox investigators
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Meanwhile, the Uttar Pradesh Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) and other intelligence agencies are still hunting for clues in the search for suspects in the low-intensity bomb blast that exploded on the banks of the Ganga.

What is perplexing to the intelligence agencies is that no detonator or timer has been found at the spot so they do not know what triggered the device or the chemical process. .....

While the report on the device from Agra CFSL are still awaited, prima facie the device contained potassium nitrate.

Investigators are trying to understand what triggered off the chemical process at Varanasi as the device was powerful to shatter a 20 kilogram stone slab and shatter windows some 500 metres from the site.

They have even gone back to the book to understand the device used by Nigerian bomber Umer Farooq Abulmutallub, who tried to detonate plastic explosives hidden in his underwear last Christmas. .....

What is puzzling investigators, though, is the nature of the bomb.

In the first 24 hours since the blast went off, investigators had not found any of the usual IM 'signatures' such as ball bearings and nails or remnants of an IED or remains of a battery, wire, detonator, timer or circuit.

What they had collected were samples of soil, pieces of stones and pieces of a white plastic container which has a sticker, with the word “Prince” on it.

While experts don’t rule out that the battery, wire and timer could have been blown into the Ganga by the force of the blast, an official of Agra’s Forensic Science Laboratory said: “One thing is clear, there were no ballbearings or other such articles in the bomb.” Doctors treating the injured have also found no sign of wounds caused by metal pieces.

Also, there is no CCTV footage because there are no such cameras installed at the ghat. The design of the bomb indicates that those who planted the device had examined the site. The bomb was placed on a staircase made of stone slabs. “They knew that the explosion would automatically convert the stones’ slabs into projectiles,” said an official.

Incidentally, the attackers also chose that particular area of the ghat where no TV cameras are present.....
Maybe the trigger was a chemical like acid instead of usual fuze.....

Good that they are open minded...
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Presence of Potassium Nitrate points to this being a gun powder like low explosive device ( Potassium Nitrate + Sulphur + Charcoal ). The video capture of the blast also looks like a gun powder blast. The staircase rock slabs are probably weak sandstone slabs or something similar. Gunpowder can fracture a sandstone slab in its immediate vicinity. The slabs a little distance away from the explosive charge just seems to have been dislodged at the cement joints, not broken.

However, to trigger a gun powder blast some sort of fuse is required and the fuse needs to be lit. A CCTV footage would have provided more clue as to how the device was activated.
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Were there reports of tell tale black smoke? GP needs to be lit and thus won't need all those secondary devices.
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Here is the video capture of the blast by a tourist. To me it looks/sounds like a gunpowder blast.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/v ... era/180342
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ramana wrote:Could the maal be P E T N the stuff of choice in Middle East?
Hate to be right.

Typical press reports from India on Sunday.

Varanasi blast marks arrival of Plastic explosive in India
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LUCKNOW: Forensic experts probing the December 7 Varanasi blast don't rule out the possibility that the explosive used in the terror attack could belong to the plastic family — PETN/TNT/C4 — so far not favourite of terrorists in India.

The hypothesis rests on a number of elements that the forensic experts have come across while probing the blast that took place at Dasaswamedh Ghat in Varanasi. Five days after the blast, investigators are yet to find any residue of the explosive used, remains of any circuit or detonator and even use of shrapnel in the explosive. The blast site was, however, cordoned off soon after the incident and screened by the investigating agencies. "Such features are usually associated with explosive from the plastic bomb families," said a forensic expert probing the blast. "This is entirely different from what we've seen in any blast sites in the country," added the expert, who didn't wish to be named.

Although the experts are yet to identify the composition of the explosive, a study of the blast site suggest the possibility of a PETN (pentaerythritol trinitrate combined with nitroglycerin) being used. "Though a stable liquid in itself, PETN can be detonated by using heat or shockwave. Thus after the blast neither any liquid nor detonating device is found at the blast site," said a officer.

Other factors that suggest the possibility of PETN being used are that the blast left a heavy and dense cloud of smoke and had a deafening sound but didn't trigger a fire. In the sub-continent, PETN is used by Lashkar-e-Taiba and is the latest favourite of terror outfit like Al-Qaida.


About the terror outfit behind the blast, especially on the basis of the explosive used, the investigators say it could have been the handiwork of sleeper cells in UP (Headley has said there are 24 such cells in UP under what is identified as "Project Karachi".

In the NDTV video I thought the smoke was brown indicating nitrogen dioxide type compounds.
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Another from TOI:
VARANASI: Has the Indian Mujahideen added Semtex explosive to its armoury? It appears so, going by the analysis of the samples collected from the December 7 blast site at the Dasaswamedh Ghat.

Top police and Anti-Terror Squad (ATS) officials, on condition of anonymity, said: "The use of this explosive is quite certain as initial tests with the Israeli kit have shown the use of multiple chemicals in the bomb."

Semtex is a general-purpose plastic explosive containing RDX and pentaerythritol tetranitrate (PETN). It is used in commercial blasting, demolition and in certain military applications. The explosive is notoriously popular with global terrorists as it is extremely difficult to detect.

But if Semtex was used in the December 7 blast, which mechanism was adopted by the terrorists to detonate the bomb? The police as well as the investigating agencies are still tight-lipped as the final report of the Forensic Science Institute (Gujarat) team led by M S Dahiya is yet to come.

It is expected Dahiya's report would not only reveal the name of the explosive, but also the mechanism used to detonate the bomb. "If the test report confirms Semtex, it would be an alarming signal for the security agencies who are ill-equipped to detect this sophisticated explosive," said a senior police officer. The report is expected anytime in a day or two.

Read more: IM used Semtex in Varanasi blast: Report - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... z17wm78mEH
Recall reports of the shoe and undie bombers trying to set off/lighting matches? So some sort of agarbatti was used to give the long delay.

Blast site picture in daylight. Note the fractured stone.

From Mumbai Mirror:

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Folks we need to pay more attention to the sparse news on this subject. I dont see much posting about the progress of the investigation.
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Somebody asked what the f is brisance!

Wiki link for starters:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brisance


Brisance is a measure of the rapidity with which an explosive develops its maximum pressure. Brisance is the shattering capability of an explosive. The term originates from the French verb "briser", which means to break or shatter. Brisance is of practical importance for determining the effectiveness of an explosion in fragmenting shells, bomb casings, grenades, structures, and the like.

A brisant explosive is one that attains its maximum pressure so rapidly that a shock wave is formed. The net effect is to shatter (by shock resonance) the material surrounding or in contact with the supersonic detonation wave created by the explosion. Thus, brisance is a measure of the shattering ability of an explosive and is not necessarily correlated with the explosive's total work capacity.

The sand crush test is commonly employed to determine the relative brisance in comparison to TNT. No single test is capable of directly comparing the explosive properties of two or more compounds;[citation needed] it is important to examine the data from several such tests[citation needed] (sand crush, trauzl, and so forth) in order to gauge relative brisance. True values for comparison will require field experiments.[citation needed]

One of the most brisant of the conventional explosives is cyclotrimethylene trinitramine (also known as RDX or Hexogen).[1]
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Varanasi blast girl found at ghat identified

Varanasi: The one-and-a-half-year-old girl, who was found at Shitla Ghat in Varanasi after the blast on December 7, has been identified by police and her residence located, but her parents cannot be traced.

Deputy District Magistrate Atal Kumar Rai told reporters on Sunday that after publishing the child's picture in various newspapers and showing it on news channels, it was found that she is the daughter of one Gita and Nilesh Pandey alias Tuntun, who works as a guard.

The couple resided in a rented accomodation in Jawahar Nagar extension in Varanasi with their two children, the other being 11-year-old Riya, he said.

However, the room where the family lived is locked and his landlord said that Nilesh had gone to Balia with his family the day the blast occurred, Rai said.

Sister Linci, coordinator of Child Line, the children's home where the girl is being kept, said when they called up on Nilesh's mobile number given by the landlord, they were told by the respondent that his daughter had died and disconnected the phone, after which it was switched off
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The mobile is on surveillance and further investigations are on to locate the girl's parents, police said.
Something is odd. Might be useful to locate the family.
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Doctor suspected to be behind IM attacks

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Docto ... cks/723869
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Pakistan Army explosive used in Varanasi blast
The forensic examination of the samples collected from the blast site in Varanasi last Tuesday has revealed that the explosive used by terrorists is mainly used by the Pakistan army in making grenades.
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Is this the press release from IM??? I have not heard any where sorry if it is posted earlier.

http://www.freedombulwark.net/my-blog/f ... tacks.html
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ramana wrote:Something is odd. Might be useful to locate the family.
nothing odd saar
Mr. Nilesh works as a Gaurd Mrs. is a cook in 2 families, they have 4 girls as kid, around 2 hours after the blast mother took the youngest
and left her near the site and claimed her daughter died after ingesting some poisons at the blast site, when alive kid was telecast they simply
absconded, last heard both have been arrested. a case of getting rid of daughter.
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abhishek_sharma wrote:Doctor suspected to be behind IM attacks

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Docto ... cks/723869
he is a Yunani Quack, you too can be just pay Rs.650 and buy the required books you are good to go.
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niran wrote:
abhishek_sharma wrote:Doctor suspected to be behind IM attacks

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Docto ... cks/723869
he is a Yunani Quack, you too can be just pay Rs.650 and buy the required books you are good to go.
This Kitabi Quack could have been caught, but for the interference that the Mumbai crime branch had to face at the hands of the politicians of two particular parties.
Here’s how politicians come to terrorists’ aid

If only political pressure had kept itself away from the law, two-year-old Swastika Sharma would not have died in the Varanasi blast a couple of days ago. That’s because, Indian Mujahideen operative Dr Shahnawaz Khan, who the police suspect to have plotted the Varanasi blast, would have been nabbed almost two years ago.

In September 2008, the Crime Branch had busted a module of the Indian Mujahideen by arresting 21 of its operatives in connection with multiple blasts in Ahmedabad.


When the Batla House encounter took place in New Delhi on September 19, 2008, two of Khan’s associates were killed. At the time of the encounter, Khan and a few of his operatives were in Lucknow.

Fearing that the police were trailing him, Khan escaped to Sarai Mir village in Azamgarh district of Uttar Pradesh where he holed up in a small house.

The police, who had got wind of his whereabouts, tried closing in on Khan and his associates. However, political interference ensured that this did not happen.

“The Batla House encounter was just in the news and the situation in Azamgarh was politically charged at the time,” sources in the Mumbai Crime Branch said. “Thanks to politicians from the Congress and Samajwadi Party, no police team was allowed to enter that part of Azamgarh.”

A police team was deployed, but the Uttar Pradesh Special Task Force did not allow them to enter, the source said.


“In fact, their entry too was banned because, by then, the encounter in Delhi had assumed political proportions and politicians were streaming into the village.”

The officer said that the Crime Branch team camped there for 15 days, but had to return empty-handed. “Had he been caught then, neither the Delhi blast nor the one in Varanasi would have taken place,” the officer said.

Six months later, after matters cooled off, the terrorists fanned out to Dubai and Pakistan via Nepal. The Uttar Pradesh police have claimed that they strongly suspect Dr Khan’s module to be responsible for the Varanasi blast. To buttress their claim, the police said that Khan was in telephonic contact with certain people in Uttar Pradesh last month. They said that all these calls had been made from Dubai where Khan had fled.
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Re: Welcome Back Pakistan: Blast in Varanasi at ghat near te

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How is this possible ?
A police team was deployed, but the Uttar Pradesh Special Task Force did not allow them to enter, the source said.
I presume above implies that the police team in question had search warrants so on what grounds UPSTF (now i know what special tasks these guys do :mrgreen: ) can prevent the former from carrying out their tasks ? Sounds like the usual passing on the buck routine.
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The officer said that the Crime Branch team camped there for 15 days, but had to return empty-handed. “Had he been caught then, neither the Delhi blast nor the one in Varanasi would have taken place,” the officer said.

Six months later, after matters cooled off, the terrorists fanned out to Dubai and Pakistan via Nepal. The Uttar Pradesh police have claimed that they strongly suspect Dr Khan’s module to be responsible for the Varanasi blast. To buttress their claim, the police said that Khan was in telephonic contact with certain people in Uttar Pradesh last month. They said that all these calls had been made from Dubai where Khan had fled.
Hard to believe that such a "most wanted" would not be tailed and watched continuously so that he is grabbed the moment he steps out of UP.... Nepal also is a kind of IB playground and even if the guy had dashed to Nepal, he could have been picked up.

Can believe local police scuttling a single day operation but refuse to believe that central agencies were held of for months by a state, esp when big fish is involved. As negi-ji said, seems to be a passing-the-buck story...
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Re: Welcome Back Pakistan: Blast in Varanasi at ghat near te

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sum wrote: Hard to believe that such a "most wanted" would not be tailed and watched continuously so that he is grabbed the moment he steps out of UP.... Nepal also is a kind of IB playground and even if the guy had dashed to Nepal, he could have been picked up.

Can believe local police scuttling a single day operation but refuse to believe that central agencies were held of for months by a state, esp when big fish is involved. As negi-ji said, seems to be a passing-the-buck story...
not if orders come from the top of central agencies themselves. Afterall that area is quite near the play ground of the 2Gs themselves
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