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Arun Roperia wrote:Pakistan's terror Central (A Channel14 small documentary) Kinda conveys the message Jamaat-ud-Dawa = LeT. Very brave reporter and cameraman!
Part I
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A lot of this stuff seems to have a background orders from the army not to be wholly truthful and not to say things that might make people dissatisfied with Pakistan. Such a policy has its benefits especially if one is not well informed enough. As a student in 1975 - no TV, no radio even I used to be very happy with the positive spin on news that I used to read during Indira Gandhi's Emergency, at which time all the "baddies" were put in jail and only good things were reported.pankajs wrote:"Pakistan is a HOLE" and China has no other option
LokeshC wrote: Bliss to watch Djinnahs bredictions come true after 26:30. Bakistan is a bery powarfool "junction" country and Amrika is afraid of Russia-India-China-AAAND-Bakistan axis.![]()
LokeshC wrote:partha wrote: I'm reminded of a line from Andaz Apna Apna - "saale dus dus hazaar ke suit pehente hain, akal das paise ke bhi nahin hain"
These are the ex-Kernail and Jernail worthies that run Bakistan's strategic comoonity. My neighbors kindergartener may have a better grasp of geopolitics. Truly a nation of delusional narcissistic fools, each and every one of them, from the suited-booted to the unwashed.
A_Gupta wrote:
Highlights - whatever caught my attention -
50,000 civilians and 7000 soldiers - sacrificed for what? For Americans to woo India?
Salman Ghani (former TV host), Brig. Farukh Hamid, and international traveler Farukh Sohail Goindi along with Samir Bokhari (current TV host) form the elite wailing panel.
Hai, hai, from 1960 to today, PL480, F16, aid, sanctions, the long list of American betrayals!
Americans want India as a global partner, but Hindustan's condition is so bad that all the security arrangements for Obama have been done by Americans. Security arrangements, personnel, equipment, vehicles - all American.
If America looks after its own interests only, then why can't Pakistan do the same? Why is there no Pakistani leader who can talk to Americans as equals? Oh, Nawaz Sharif did so once, regarding nuclear testing.
America is an imperialist power whose policy is engagement with leading economic and military powers to avoid clashes with them. America is merely engaging with India but Pakistani military/intelligence are the ones who sit with them even today, to make policy, conduct operations. Indians think Pakistanis are very clever in their foreign policy.
But isn't Indian diplomacy so much better? Yes, Pakistan's foreign office is lousy. Indians were/are engaged with Soviet Union, Russia, China, America, even with Turkey, where Tata vehicles are sold.
But Americans are very clever, intelligent, cunning. Pakistan is America's frontline state against India. Anecdote with Kofi Annan - Kofi Annan tells Pakistani that America wants to keep Kashmir on the UN agenda.
Kugelman's article (see 72'ed thread) is cited that American writers are criticizing Obama for trying to have better ties with India at the cost of compromising Pakistan's interests.
Military diplomacy - Pakistan's Army Chief going to China, head-of-state-like reception in 10 Downing Street is an answer.
We fight the war, US has only strategic dialog with us, but a strategic partnership with India. America wants India to be the dominating regional power.
US-Israel-India nexus is one emerging nexus and Pakistan-China-possibly Russia is the competing power. Joint Pakistan-Russia military exercise is a major breakthrough.
But can India serve American interests if it keeps violating LoC, etc., has an obsession with JuD, LeT? Americans are saying on JuD, LeT, they are with the Indians.
Obama in his 2008 election campaign brought up Kashmir, and after that, never again.
(Not quite sure) I think they say that America was defeated in Afghanistan and is leaving the burden of defeat on Pakistan. Pakistan has to stand on its own feet. Pakistan may be small, but is a nuclear power. With the emerging Pakistan-China-Russia axis, Pakistan need not fear anything.
Political diplomacy has also been successful - India is a zero in Afghanistan because of it.
America is worried about the new axis. Americans have collapsed the Russian economy by making oil cheap. America is really worried about a China-Russia-India-Pakistan axis.
Russians wooed Pakistan, not the other way around.
The Syrian war is decisive for the future of the Middle East and South Asia. Pakistanis are lucky people, having ideal geostrategic location at the junction of South Asia, Central Asia and the Middle East.
America was not defeated in Afghanistan, that is our emotional thinking. America's real defeat is in the rise of China, Russia, India. (I think they say or imply that the Track II Agra agreement on J&K was sabotaged by America.)
Pakistan will never accept Indian hegemony, relations only on the basis of equality.
China's economic engagement with India is rapidly increasing, but not at the cost of the genuine strategic relationship with Pakistan. Could anyone a few years ago have imagined China in Gwadar?
Bhutto was not roti-kapda-makaan politician, he was the 1000 years war - eat grass politician.
Pakistan can never be a friend to India, but in foreign affairs there is no permanent friendship or enmity.
Apparently Piloo Mody and Z.A. Bhutto studied in the same place? At graduation, Bhutto told Mody, next time I meet you, I will be Prime Minister of my country. In 1972(?), Piloo Mody was in the reception line for Bhutto, and Bhutto reminded him of this. That is what is called a visionary leader.
Only those leaders will succeed who think of tomorrow and not of today.
Here it is:Bheeshma wrote:She is a double digit IQ moron who is also very ugly to boot. The woman is incredibly stupid and most likely a paki army stooge. I remember her A-5 analysis, she said something like US has helped India in taking lead over porki missiles.
Shreeman wrote:^^^ The real number, if double votes are removed via a no burka policy, is only 9%. You can populate the valley, or mirpur and birminghamastan. Both, not so easily, when you also have to go out and protest this much.
Gagan wrote:The story is that the Shias of Mirpur were against Shiekh Abdulla Sr.
So he is said to have told JLN that we may not press for retaking the Mirpur district in '47
vishvak wrote: The opium seems to be an ace up the sleeve of Arap fourefathers of bakis.
linkAs usual, self-declared pure people will hide all this.The opium poppy probably reached China about the fourth century A.D. through Arab traders who advocated its use for medicinal purposes. In Chinese literature, there are earlier references to its use.
More importantly, only self-declared pure people can come up with such hallucinations, see where it is going.
Gagan wrote:
1. This fool is a persona non grata now
2. These fools still think that big huge nation to nation deals, as complex as the Indo-US nuclear deal are agreed to by one flick of a pen or one nod by the top leadership!
These guys have never had a real democracy, they have ZERO idea of how to negotiate as equals, to undertake complex negotiations. They simply can't bring in as much brain power to bear or enlarge the spectrum of negotiations to make a deal.
The only thing they have done while dealing, is to hold a gun to their head, and threaten to commit suicide and damage their neighborhood in the process, while haggling over handouts. And these are the kind of deals that their supreme leaders have nodded to and theirnegotiatorsHagglers have then agreed to.
A nation such as Pakistan simply does not have the intellectual, diplomatic, legal, scientific or engineering background to conduct a negotiation of the complexity that the Indo-US nuclear deal encompassed !!!