Baluchistan: The Story of Another Pakistan Military Genocide

arun · Post by **arun** » 01 Nov 2014 09:33

Punjabi dominated security agencies of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan continue their genocidal programme in Balochistan to suppress the Baloch struggle for freedom.

Balochistan National Party (BNP) leader Sardar Abdul Rauf Mengal reveals “that in the past 18 months 162 mutilated bodies had been found and 218 people were killed in targeted attacks. About 3,000 people were still missing.”

Further reveals that “intelligence agencies had abducted Laljan Baloch — former chief of the Balochistan Students Organisation and one of the central leaders of his party, from Uthal on Wednesday and moved him to an unknown place.”:

BNP accuses agencies of abducting its central leader

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 22 Dec 2014 15:32

EIGHT BODIES FOUND IN BALOCHISTAN

Authorities on Sunday found eight bullet-riddled bodies in Balochistan province, which is facing a tribal insurgency, sectarian violence and Taliban attacks, officials said.

Five bodies were recovered from the district of Pashin and three from that of Ziarat, according to provincial home secretary Akbar Durrani. “We have found eight bodies today which are being brought to Quetta for identification and further investigation,” Durrani said.

Local police confirmed the discovery of bodies but had no immediate details.

arun · Post by **arun** » 25 Dec 2014 06:20

Exploitation of Baloch natural resources by the gluttonous Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Punjab Province causes great hardship to the exploited people of Baluchistan.

Balochistan which is the principal natural gas producing province of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, gets no natural gas even as temperatures slump to minus 8 celsius:

No gas supply to Quetta on fifth day

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 26 Dec 2014 11:33

Saars,
is it possible to rename this thread as:
Pakistan Occupied Balochistan: Another Pakistan Military Genocide

It seems that Balochis are fighting for freedom from what they consider as occupation of Pakjabis. There seem to be many human right violations in Balochistan by the Pakistan army which is predominantly pakjabi. Balochistan is a resource rich region which is being looted by the Pakjabis according to the Baloch freedom fighters.

I was watching an old interview of a respected Baloch leader on Youtube. His name is Akbar Bugti. What is interesting is that at one point in the interview he compares the resources of the Balochistan region to 'Gau-Maatha' i.e. 'Cow-Mother'. This can be understood instinctively by Hindhus. Baloch language also seems very close to Hindhi. Infact, it just sounds like a different dialect of Hindhi.

In the above video, at 31:50, he says that Balochistan resources are like 'Gau-Maatha'.

BTW, that old and respect Baloch leader, Akbar Bugti was killed by the pakistan army.

And his son Brahamdagh Bugti is now being pursued by the Pakistan army. Brahamdagh Bugti claims that he is fighting for the freedom of Balochi people from the occupation of Pakjabis. He has frequently requested for support from any country in the world. He has requested Bhaarath, America, Afghanistan or anyone else to support them for freedom from the occupation of Pakjabis.

Pakistan media which is also dominated by the Pakjabis claims that Bhaarath is involved in destabilizing the Balochistan region.

Pakistan army keeps heavy military presence in the Balochistan region and there seem to be many checkposts in the region. Baloch people openly say that they do not consider themselves as Pakistanis but they are Balochistanis.

It seems that the Balochistan has an ancient history and is fully aware of this ancient roots. Balochis frequently say in debates or interviews that they belong to an ancient culture of more than 9000 yrs.

In the above video, at 5:50, a Balochi says that the Balochistan civilization is an ancient one of more than 9000 yrs while Pakistan is merely a construct of 60 yrs.

It seems to me that the Balochistan is the successor of the ancient state of Sauvira.

Sindh -> Sindh
Sauvira -> Balochistan
Kekaya -> Pakthunkwa

Yavana seem to be a nomadic region between Sauvira and Kekaya.

Gaandhara -> Kandhahar (Afghanisthan).
Shibhi -> Seriaki
Panchala -> Punjab
Bahlika -> Turkmenistan

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 26 Dec 2014 19:46

It seems that the Balochistan has an ancient history and is fully aware of this ancient roots. Balochis frequently say in debates or interviews that they belong to an ancient culture of more than 9000 yrs.

May be this is why Poonjabis of pakistan are central to keeping all regions tethered to some exclusivist ideology - be it green one or greener one.

arun · Post by **arun** » 25 Jan 2015 12:17

Baloch freedom fighters shut down electricity supply to over 80% of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan by .blowing up 220 kilovolt-Amperes (kVA) transmission lines between Sibi and Quetta in Pakistani Punjabi Occupied Balochistan:

Power breakdown: Nationwide blackout

By Shahram Haq / Saad Hasan / Zafar Bhutta / Shehzad Baloch

Published: January 25, 2015

LAHORE / QUETTA / ISLAMABAD / KARACHI: Almost all of Pakistan plunged into darkness around 11:50 pm on Saturday night as an attack by Baloch separatists on transmission lines near Naseerabad in Balochistan caused nearly the entire national grid to trip, shutting down electricity supply to over 80% of the country.

The transmission tower blown up was near Notal, a town in Naseerabad district in Balochistan, confirmed Sharbat Umrani, the head of the local police station. The damage to the 220 kilovolt-Amperes (kVA) transmission lines between Sibi and Quetta caused a backward surge of power to the Guddu power plant in Sindh, which in turn caused a cascading effect on the entire national grid, said Water and Power Secretary Younus Dagha. …………………………

Almost all of Pakistan was in darkness on Saturday night, with no electricity available in Punjab, Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa, Islamabad or Balochistan. Some parts of Sindh still had electricity, but even most parts of Sindh were in darkness. …………………….

From here:

Clicky

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 12 Mar 2015 04:13

Balochis in India (a lot of them settled in Gujarat for generations)

akashganga · Post by **akashganga** » 12 Mar 2015 19:36

Agnimitra wrote:Balochis in India (a lot of them settled in Gujarat for generations)

I hope indian government is not allowing more baluchi muslims to settle in India. No matter how much you help them when it comes to India vs Pakistan issue even Baluchi muslims by and large will side with Bakis. We indians are already spending too much time and resources in sunni vs shia, defending dharmic against arab/islamic onslaught, etc.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 24 Apr 2015 05:50

Ex-Baloch minister appeals India to do a Bangladesh in Balochistan

Pakistan is committing genocide of the Baloch people. Prima facie, in Balochistan all authorities are vested with the security forces, which enjoy complete impunity and stand above the law of the land. The modus operandi of the “kill and dump” operation saw more than thousand mutilated bodies of freedom activists thrown all across Balochistan as Pakistan pursued its abhorrent state policy of ethnic cleansing. “All bodies carried marks of torture. Some had signs made on them with knives, others had sliced and drilled limbs. In any cases, the faces were burned in acid and fingernails and even eyeballs had been pulled out .The Frontier Corps and Inter Services Intelligence, infamous by its acronym ISI, in league with Balochistan and federal governments are killing activists and their dead bodies are being thrown in desolate places, in a show of indignity to the human body, in a highly inhuman manner.”

He recalled the discovery of mass graves that failed to attract the international attention they deserved. “The discovery of mass graves with more than hundred bodies at Tootak in Khuzdar District were concrete evidence that connects the security forces in commission of crimes against humanity and war crimes, too, in Balochistan,” Kachkol recently wrote to the UN authorities and global leaders, including Samantha Power, the US permanent representative to the UN and an expert on genocide, who authored A Problem from Hell: America and the Age of Genocide.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 24 Apr 2015 06:01

Bigger issue is that Balochistan has been resettled with Pashtuns and Pakjabis and the native Balochs have been exterminated by the scores over the past couple of decades, so it will be hard to separate the wheat from the chaff if the floodgates are opened.

As an aside, the "hyooman rites" activists in the US and EU who scream murder about ukraine, cashmere, Iran, or burkina faso sat with their thumbs up various orifices in conspicious silence, just like their monumental silence in the recent genocide and pogroms in Pakistan against Shia Hazaras and Ahmedis, or the depradations of KSA via the Islamic state for that matter.

he US permanent representative to the UN and an expert on genocide, who authored A Problem from Hell: America and the Age of Genocide.

Correct title of the book would be "America and the Age of Genocides not conducted by America and its allies".

arun · Post by **arun** » 25 Apr 2015 07:14

X Posted from the STFUP thread.

Anujan wrote:Basically La-Whore institute of Management Sciences organized a seminar on Balochistan on April 9. That got canceled.

After Pakis went JEEHAAAARRRDDD!!! OUTRAGEEEEE!! SHAME ON GOBERMINT AND LUMS!!!! The cat was out of the bag that ISI turned up sent out a few threats and had it canceled.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2015/04 ... lochistan/

Talking to Pakistan Today, LUMS faculty member Dr Taimur Rehman said, “A delegation from the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) visited LUMS in the evening and presented a letter calling for cancellation of the talks. They said that Balochistan is a sensitive issue and that the moot could be used to malign Pakistan,” said Dr Rehman, adding that the intelligence officials were firm in their directive.
One of the people slated to speak was Mama Qadeer. Who had gone on several hunger strikes and marches demanding accountability for missing persons. His son was disappeared in 2009 and his mutilated corpse was found dumped by the roadside after some time. The 72 year old man walked from Balochistan to Isloo to protest. His walk and protest wasnt covered by anyone, but somehow Hamid Mir interviewed him. He was shot in the stomach for his troubles

http://www.dawn.com/news/1100974/attack ... ain-silent

Not that Hamid Mir is famous for his progressive thinking. He's the one who made the famous comment that he hates Qadianis more than Hindus. He also had Colonel Imam and Khalid Khwaja (both of whom had wheeling dealings with the Taliban) killed by insinuating that they were US spies. The TTP promptly halaled them. For some random reason he took up the case of Mama Qadeer and had his intestines shot at for the trouble.

I think this is one of the dangers of working as a journalist in Al-Bakistan. Many TFTA lifafas, to show their "independence" (includes Saleem Shazad, Hamid Mir and even Flagpole Haider) sometimes take contrary positions to the Army. The TFTAs even tolerate that because they want a pro-TFTA narrative from "credible" people. Except these lifafas sometimes act too smart and get themselves shot. Anyway, back to Mama Qadeer.

So this Mama Qadeer was slated to speak at LUMS and that got canceled. Except they held it in Isloo on April 12th. Attended by contingent of LUMS student who went all "Wah wah. We defined the ISI". This motorma organized another event

She was famous for starting "The second floor" for promoting peace and "civil society". It is an organization/documentary/coffee shop, where Pakistani "Social media activists" come, do some mental masturbation, blog and RT stuff and go back to their bungalows to ask their filipino maids to make tea.

Anyway, she organized the conference in the T2F space and she got shot 5 times when she was leaving the event. Seems TFTAs dont even want plausible deniability, it is a clear message that if you organize such an event, they will come by and shoot you.

Brave, stupid woman.

^^^ Looks like the Punjabi Military dominated Deep State of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan have let slip the dogs of State supported Non-State actors to silence voices of freedom. That to on the Mohammadden Sabbath of Friday .

Meanwhile more on the story of the killing of Sabeen Mahmud, a woman who organised a seminar titled “Unsilencing Balochistan” at a venue established by her:

Rights activist shot dead after seminar on Baloch issue

arun · Post by **arun** » 25 Apr 2015 07:58

The Punjabi Military Dominated Deep State of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s attempt to pillage Balochistans resources with the help of Taller than Himalaya’s, Deeper than Indian Ocean, Sweeter than Honey, Iron Brother, the Peoples Republic of China is opposed by the freedom yearning Baloch.

Deutsche Welle’s interview of Baluchi Freedom Fighter Brahamdagh Bugti posted in full. Note references to Punjab’s pillage of Baloch resources, human right violations of the Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and the pronouncement that P.R. Chinese investment will be opposed by the Balochi’s:

DW: Pakistani officials say that the economic corridor deal with China would transform the country's economy and fortunes. Since Balochistan's Gwadar port is pivotal in the agreement, do you think the province will also get an economic uplift?

Brahamdagh Bugti: None of the previous development projects in Balochistan have ever been beneficial to the province or its people. I don't think it will be any different this time around.

We have been complaining for decades that Islamabad has never sought the consent of the Baloch people before initiating these projects. It is quite obvious that they are not launched to boost the province's economy or to help people out of poverty. They are started for the benefit of the rulers in Islamabad.

Balochistan's provincial government has expressed reservations against the CPEC, saying it was not taken into confidence over the project. What is your take on it?

Let me put it in simple words: it's not a deal between China and Pakistan; it is a deal between China and the Punjab province. We have no problem with that. The Punjab's rulers are free to do what they want. But we don't allow China and the Punjab to use Balochistan for their benefits.

Balochistan is facing a military operation. People are being killed. Journalists and rights activists cannot visit the province or go to Gwadar and report from there. How can you assure transparency of any project given these circumstances?

Rights groups accuse Pakistan's security forces and intelligence agencies of playing a part in kidnapping dissidents and separatist activists from the province on a regular basis. Some analysts now say that the China-Pakistan deal could spur rights abuses in Balochistan in the name of ensuring security. Do you agree?

I think there will be massive human rights abuses in Balochistan because of this deal. To secure their financial interests in the province, Islamabad is likely to intensify its military operation there. They will do so in the name of providing security to the multinational and Chinese companies that are investing in the project. They would not even allow peaceful demonstrations and protests against the CPEC.

Isn't there terrorism in the Punjab, in Karachi, and in other parts of Pakistan? But are there people attacked by helicopters like the residents of Balochistan? No. Do you discover the maimed bodies of missing people in other provinces on a daily basis? No. The Taliban have madrassahs in the Punjab Province. Does Islamabad take any action against them? The answer is again, no. There can't be two laws and two systems for the privileged and the underprivileged in the country.

We have no expectations from the provincial government that it will talk to Islamabad on behalf of the Baloch people. Everyone knows how the lawmakers get elected to Balochistan's provincial assembly. It's a sham process.

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's government in Islamabad decided to change the corridor route some time ago, diverting it away from some key cities in Balochistan. What was the reason behind the decision?

I think they did so to reduce perceived security threats to the project. It hardly matters to Balochistan. Even if they had kept the major Balochistan cities on the route, it would not have brought any prosperity to them, in my view. For instance, the Pakistani government claims it has started development projects in Dera Bugti to bring wealth to the town. But it is not the case. On the contrary, the paramilitary forces are bombing the area to crush dissent and protect Islamabad's interests.

But the Pakistani government says the Baloch leaders are blocking economic progress of the province and country?

I would ask this: What would our people have received from Islamabad had we remained silent? Some clerical jobs? We don't want to be the gatekeepers of gas pipelines; we demand a fair share of the wealth for our province. Because we are not giving up on our demands, the authorities are bringing in workers from the Punjab to work in our areas.

None of Pakistan's major political parties, including the liberal Pakistan People's Party (PPP), the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), and the Awami National Party (ANP), have raised any major objection against the Chinese-Pakistani deals. It seems you have been isolated in your cause?

None of these parties have any interest in Balochistan. The only interest they have is in exploiting Balochistan's resources and conquering its land. The Punjabi elite want Balochistan's wealth minus the Baloch people.

Since you oppose the economic corridor project, how will you try to stop its implementation?

I have been advocating a political solution to the conflict since the time when my grandfather Akbar Bugti was killed by the Pakistani military. We will launch an international campaign against the exploitation of Balochistan. We won't allow our land and resources to be used for the benefit of another country.

From here:

Brahamdagh Bugti: 'China-Pakistan deal usurps Balochistan's resources'

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 02 May 2015 07:23

Somewhat disturbing - careful before you click...

Feces being forced fed to Baloch by army; two more summarily executed

arun · Post by **arun** » 28 Jun 2015 17:21

Punjabi dominated Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan continues its genocidal campaign against fellow Mohammadden Baluchi’s:

Year-to-date: 83 mutilated corpses found in Balochistan

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 27 Jul 2015 07:54

Tarek Fatah: Why Balochistan needs the attention of the USA
Speech at a discussion on The Hill in Washington DC on the conflict on Balochistan hosted by congressman Chris Smith on July 22, 2015.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 01 Aug 2015 06:55

Last words of a leader of a #Balochistan freedom fighter 'sangat' after being shot by #Pakistan Army:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHvtFnb2B-E

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 02 Aug 2015 05:06

Story Behind Military Invasion Of Kalat By Pakistan Army In March 1948

Did Nehru reject Baloch ruler’s accession request?
The Baloch state of Kalat wanted to be free or linked to Afghanistan, Iran or India - but never to Pakistan.

To many readers, these words may seem as if they appeared in the Pakistan press this week: "From whatever angle we look at the present government of Pakistan, we will see nothing but Punjabi fascism. The people have no say in it. It is the Army and arms that rule."[/quote]

Not many people know that after the British left India, Kalat was independent for nearly seven-and-half months until the Pakistani military occupation of March 27, 1948.

The Baloch sovereign Khan of Kalat Mir Ahmadyar Khan, whose most tragic blunder was to have Muhammad Ali Jinnah as his lawyer in his legal dealings with the British Raj, was said to be very fond of listening to the All India Radio (AIR) broadcast in the evenings. On March 27, 1948, what he had heard left the Khan shell-shocked. The FPC cites an AIR broadcast from that day, which reported a press conference by VP Menon, the secretary in the Ministry of States: "Menon revealed that the Khan of Kalat was pressing India to accept Kalat's accession, but added that India would have nothing to do with it."

"On orders emanating from Mr Jinnah, Balochistan was forcibly annexed to Pakistan on 28th March 1948 when on 27th March 1948, Lt Colonel Gulzar of the 7th Baluch Regiment under GOC Major General Mohammad Akbar Khan invaded the Khanate of Kalat. General Akbar escorted the Khan of Kalat to Karachi and forced him to sign on the instrument of accession while Pakistan Navy's destroyers reached Pasni and Jiwani."

Imagine a lawyer one had hired to negotiate the deed of a new house becoming the owner of the house himself. This was exactly the case with the Kalat state and Pakistan founder Muhammad Ali Jinnah, who broke all his promises. However, this was made possible due to the miscalculations of the Congress leadership and their lack of statesmanship, particularly, if viewed in the backdrop of their launch of jihad in Kashmir.

Kalat, historical accounts say, was once called Kalat-e-Sewa (Sewa's Fort), after Sewa, a legendary Hindu hero of the Brahui-speaking Baloch people. On August 15, when Jinnah recognised it as a free state, Kalat had a foreign minister named Douglas Yates Fell, while an uncle of this writer was the state's ambassador to Pakistan. The national flag of Kalat flew over the family home in Karachi's Garden district from August 15, 1947 to March 28, 1948.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 23 Aug 2015 12:41

Crossing the red lines - Mir Mohammed Ali Talpur, DT

Recently, I came across a piece in the Saudi Gazette of April 2014 titled ‘Balochistan and the unity of Pakistan’ by one Dr Ali Al-Ghamdi, a former Saudi diplomat claiming to specialise in Southeast Asian affairs. It made me wonder what interest a former Saudi diplomat would have in Balochistan but then I realised this was an attempt to make the theory that religion was the basis of nationhood sound credible and acceptable.

He, after repeating the mantra that Pakistan had been created for the Muslims of the subcontinent, laments that some internal and external forces were not satisfied or convinced about the creation of the new entity and started exploiting and exaggerating some of the problems involved in its creation. He feels that among some there was a lack of religious faith and national sentiment on which Pakistan was founded and that some people cherished regional sentiments; these problems he says led to the creation of Bangladesh. The Saudis and Pakistani elite expect people to forsake their centuries’ old cultures and histories for religion.

He then accuses the Baloch Liberation Army (BLA) of “crossing the red line” by threatening Pakistan’s national unity not only by involvement in subversive acts within but also by establishing a rapport with external forces, especially the US. He exposes his ignorance by terming Agha Sulaiman Dawood, the Khan of Kalat, as the tribal head of the BLA. He says that a neighbouring country — he does not specify which — had agreed to bear the two million dollar cost of appeal in the International Court of Justice (ICJ) but when that did not materialise they approached a US congressmen and three congressmen tabled a bill before the US Congress stating that: “Balochistan is currently divided between Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan with no sovereign rights of its own.” And that in Pakistan it is subjected to violence, extrajudicial killing and displacement, with the Baloch demanding the right to self-determination. He then thanks the US government for distancing itself from independent Balochistan. He should be thankful to them for sending troops to Saudi Arabia during the 1990-1991 Gulf War.

After thanking the US he then expresses fear that the US request for a consulate in Quetta is aimed at facilitating the activities of organisations striving to create unrest in Pakistan. This he feels will be in retribution for Pakistan harbouring Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad. He thinks that the Tea Party congressmen are working for independent Balochistan. He accuses India of financing the insurgents and also seems to know that that money goes into the pockets of tribal leaders. He fears that if the Republican Party wins the US elections there will be a surge of violence in Balochistan.

He then suggests solutions to the Balochistan problem with his six points. One, he wants the media to highlight “political initiative to address the situation in Balochistan, such as holding elections and the formation of an elected government there to reduce insurgency”. Two, he wants to end foreign intervention even if it is from US congressmen as it contravenes international laws. He forgets the Saudi intervention in Bahrain for bloody repression of the Shias.

Three, he wants the media to expose the Tea Party members’ hypocrisy under the pretext of defending human rights in Balochistan. Four, he says those demanding independence are a small group who have no support of the people and they look to outside forces for support. Five, he asserts that “the people of Balochistan are patriotic and they want peace, justice and democracy to prevail”, He does not know that the Baloch have continued to fight since the forced annexation on March 27, 1948. Six, he declares that Pakistan will not allow any group of adventurers who live abroad to undermine the nation’s safety and security, as well as to forfeit any part of the country.

He assumes the role of a Pakistani government representative and is blind to the abductions and killing of the Baloch. He does not see the red lines crossed by the Pakistani establishment in atrocities against the Baloch nor does he see the blood that has been shed. This Saudi interest in Balochistan does not auger well for the Baloch because the motives are ulterior. The Mirani Dam in Balochistan was built so that the land irrigated by it would be sold to some Gulf country. Saudi Arabia, along with the UAE, is among the biggest land buyers in Africa. On April 29, 2009, the then federal minister for investment, Waqar Ahmed Khan, disclosed that there are “one million acres of farmland, protected by a special security force, for lease or sale to countries seeking to secure their food supplies” He added, “Pakistan’s government is now in talks with Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain and other Arab states.” Then he added that parliament would provide investors with legislative cover to protect them from changes in government. Significantly, he also said, “It (the ministry) will also hire a new security force of 100,000 men to be split among the country’s provinces to help stabilise the investment environment” and “will cost us about two billion rupees to pay the salaries and train these people who will be from local towns and provinces.” This sum, he said, was being sought from donors. In November 2010, the Balochistan revenue department prepared a summary for selling about 70,000 hectares of land in Lasbela district to Arab princes for hunting and setting up their private buildings and airport. This plan was shelved due to the opposition of locals.

Interestingly, Sindh is 140,914 square kilometers with a population of 216 individuals per square kilometer and is very fertile, while Balochistan is 347,190 square kilometers with a population density of only 18.9 individuals. Khyber Pakhtunkhwa is 74,521 square kilometers with a population density of 2,38.1 individuals and Punjab is 205,345 square kilometers with a population density of 3,58.5 individuals. Punjab’s agriculture minister had earlier confirmed that 600,000 acres offered in Cholistan were rejected due to brackish water. These factors make Balochistan and Sindh prime candidates for the Gulf States’ hunger for land. Such a deal would make a quick buck for the rulers and, at the same time, undermine the existing political, economic, social and demographic balance in Balochistan, jeopardising Baloch rights even further. The Baloch resent their land and their rights being taken away either by Pakistan or its Chinese and Saudi friends, and will resist anyone crossing these red lines.

The writer has an association with the Baloch rights movement going back to the early 1970s.

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 28 Aug 2015 06:26

Looks like Brahmdagh Bugti is willing to talk

http://www.dawn.com/news/1203190/grand- ... alochistan

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 28 Aug 2015 19:59

Both Bramdagh and Khan of Kalat are now based in the West. This may be an Anglo-American initiative to help Pakistan.

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 29 Aug 2015 21:58

Analysis: Brahmdagh's volte-face

Naziha Syed Ali — Published about 16 hours ago
BRAHMDAGH Bugti, in an interview with Swissinfo in July 2015, said that Pakistan regarded him as “the most dangerous person since Osama bin Laden”. Indeed, in a US embassy cable dated Feb 26, 2010 and published by WikiLeaks, his name was among those listed among Pakistan’s “Most Wanted”. The grandson of Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti, who heads the Baloch Republican Party (BRP) from self-exile in Switzerland, has been uncompromisingly opposed to negotiations with the Pakistan government or any option short of Balochistan’s secession since he fled the country following the senior Bugti’s death in a military operation in 2006. His interview to the BBC on Wednesday, in which he said he was willing to conditionally give up the demand for Balochistan’s independence thus created considerable stir in political circles.

While the government has welcomed the development, the Baloch Liberation Front, the outlawed insurgent group led by Dr Allah Nazar, has expressed its disapproval. It has, however, chosen its words carefully, perhaps reluctant to annoy a scion of the powerful Bugti tribe.

Also read: Brahmdagh’s statement a breakthrough: Balochistan CM

Several factors, both internal and external, have played a role in Mr Bugti’s about-turn. Journalist Shahzada Zulfiqar believes that international pressure is one of them. “Pakistan has for some time been approaching Western governments with the argument that they should not shelter people who are committing acts of terrorism in Pakistan,” he said. The outlawed Baloch Republican Army (BRA), one of the major insurgent groups operating in Balochistan, is believed to be the militant wing of the BRP. On Jan 24, 2015 the BRA bombed two electricity transmission lines in Naseerabad district which plunged much of the country into darkness.

A changing regional environment also has a bearing on how Western governments respond to Pakistan’s strategy vis-à-vis Balochistan. “Proxy war pressures are easing in the region,” said Yousuf Mastikhan, a Baloch politician who was a member of the Grand Jirga that met in the aftermath of Nawab Bugti’s death. “Central Asia, Turkey, Iran and Pakistan need to work together. Even where Afghanistan is concerned, Pakistan has been attempting to nudge the Taliban towards talks.”

Diplomacy aside, military operations in Balochistan have also been considerably ramped up, thereby challenging the insurgents’ comparatively limited capacity. With the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor in the pipeline, securing peace in the province is considered an imperative and there have been reports of widespread destruction and casualties as a result of operations by the military. Among the areas where alleged insurgents have been targeted and killed is Dera Bugti. “For the Bugtis, the stakes are particularly high because of Pakistan Petroleum Ltd’s presence in their area,” said Mr Zulfiqar. “Brahmdagh Bugti’s supporters who were employed at the Sui gas fields lost their livelihoods — not to mention jobs in the Levies, the police and various government departments — when they decided to support him so there was pressure building on him on that score too.”

Then there has been the well-publicised spectacle of insurgents laying down their arms before the authorities, although the veracity of these claims is disputed. “No doubt some rebels, including commanders, have surrendered, but many of them are those who had either surrendered a year ago when there was no amnesty in place, or they had already been expelled from their organisations,” said a journalist. “Nevertheless, it is demoralising for those in the field.”

Internal crises over resources and strategy have also weakened the separatist movement which until recently formed a fairly united front; the areas in which various groups operate often overlapped. While it is possible that Mr Bugti’s statements to the BBC could exacerbate the rifts, some observers see his words in a different light. “As long as they are associated with the Baloch struggle, these leaders are a symbol of resistance,” maintained Mohammed Ali Talpur, a veteran of the insurgency from the ‘70s. “The moment they take a decision to put down arms, they become individuals. Many people are not happy with Brahmdagh’s words.”

If the conditions Mr Bugti has listed are examined however, even those who are optimistic would have to concede there are serious challenges ahead. In the interview with the BBC he made the offer of rescinding his demand for an independent Balochistan if the Baloch people so desired.

Moreover, he said he would enter into negotiations with the government provided the military operation was stopped and the forces withdrawn.

“The army won’t stop operations; they think they have defeated the separatists who should now surrender; they think in black-and-white,” said Mr Mastikhan. “There has to be some face-saving for the separatists. Otherwise this will just be the lull before the storm. The government should negotiate with a political agenda in light of the Instrument of Accession signed by the Khan of Kalat in 1948, and determine what it can offer the Baloch short of independence.”

The state, if it is serious about capitalising on the opportunity offered by Mr Bugti, must rethink its approach. “The province is ruled by a colonial security structure that excludes the Baloch almost entirely. Even an ordinary protest by the Baloch is conveyed as a campaign for independence by the Frontier Corps [the federal paramilitary force deployed in Balochistan], and the next day troops are sent into that area,” said former senator Sanaullah Baloch. “This trust deficit between Balochistan and the state must be addressed on a priority basis. We know the military has major strategic interests in the province, but these should not trample the interests of the Baloch.”

Bhurishrava · Post by **Bhurishrava** » 14 Sep 2015 14:18

http://www.dawn.com/news/1206730

Bullet-ridden bodies of three men found in Gwadar.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 26 Sep 2015 09:20

Slice of history - Maratha/Peshwa PoWs after Panipat-3 form a dalit caste facing persecution in Baluchistan even today.

http://creative.sulekha.com/descendants ... 19236_blog

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 26 Sep 2015 09:56

I have always held the viewpoint that Baloch/Pashtun are facing the karma for their actions against the Hindus. In a few generations we will be facing them again across the Indus.

arun · Post by **arun** » 06 Oct 2015 20:56

Pakistan's battle against Balochistan separatists sparks anger and suspicion

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 08 Oct 2015 01:42

Now we are talking.

After PoK, India turns focus on Balochistan

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 09 Oct 2015 11:27

Pakistan outraged at presence of Baloch activist in India - Kallol Bhattacharjee & Suhasini Haider, The Hindu

Indicating the changing policy towards extending support to separatist movements in Pakistan, India on Thursday confirmed the presence of the representative of Baloch leader Nawabzada Hyrbyair Marri in New Delhi.

Confirming the report published in The Hindu , Vikas Swarup, official spokesperson of the Ministry of External Affairs, said the presence of the Baloch representative proves again that “India has always been home to the persecuted people from all over the world.”

The Hindu had reported on Thursday that the New Delhi-based Balaach Pardili, a representative of the Hyrbyair Marri-led Baloch Liberation Front/Free Balochistan Movement, has begun campaigning for the freedom of Balochistan from Pakistan. The London-based Mr. Marri confirmed to The Hindu that Mr. Pardili has been assigned the task of representing him in public events in India.

Mr. Pardili, who appeared in public on October 4 under the banner of Bhagat Singh Kranti Sena (BSKS), told The Hindu that he is ready to campaign under the banner of BSKS for separation of Balochistan from Pakistan. The Baloch Liberation Front has once again contacted The Hindu to confirm its growing connection with India.

Meanwhile, Pakistan said the presence of Mr. Pardili in Delhi proves India is fomenting trouble in Balochistan. A Pakistani diplomatic source said that in response, Pakistan might take up issues in India’s North-eastern region. The Baloch leadership, in a statement to The Hindu , has reiterated that their presence in India is part of the worldwide strategy of the Baloch fighters to restore the freedom of Balochistan.

In a phone call to The Hindu from London, Mr. Marri said the Baloch exiles in the West are a tiny but effective group of campaigners who have struggled hard to draw India’s attention. “We deserve India’s support as India is the largest democracy and we believe India must shoulder the responsibility of upholding the tradition of democracy and human rights in the South Asian region.”

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 09 Oct 2015 12:25

SSridhar wrote:Pakistan outraged at presence of Baloch activist in India - Kallol Bhattacharjee & Suhasini Haider, The Hindu

Hardly surprising that The Hindu chose not to invite comments on this piece.

srin · Post by **srin** » 09 Oct 2015 13:06

There is a preachy editorial today on the same subject. Looks like Indian move has created lot of demand for Burnol

Security concerns trump diplomacy

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 09 Oct 2015 18:40

srin wrote:There is a preachy editorial today on the same subject. Looks like Indian move has created lot of demand for Burnol

Security concerns trump diplomacy

I was about to post this. The Hindu has given me PNG status lately as far as the comments go. I am sure that this editorial attracted far more comments than the three it eventually chose to publish. There is a perceptible change in the Comments policy of The Hindu in the last few days. Very few comments are published.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 09 Oct 2015 21:07

SSridhar wrote:Pakistan outraged at presence of Baloch activist in India - Kallol Bhattacharjee & Suhasini Haider, The Hindu
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The Hindu had reported on Thursday that the New Delhi-based Balaach Pardili, a representative of the Hyrbyair Marri-led Baloch Liberation Front/Free Balochistan Movement, has begun campaigning for the freedom of Balochistan from Pakistan. The London-based Mr. Marri confirmed to The Hindu that Mr. Pardili has been assigned the task of representing him in public events in India.
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Next time before NSA level talks, the Indian side should do 2 things at minimal level
* From Pakistani perspective, hold a conference with Baloch, Sindh, Afghan and PoK leaders; and hold opinions of the MINORITIES as limiting factors. Surely, Pakistani leftists will approve of supporting minorities in Pakistan.
* From Indian perspective, consider opinion of Kashmiri Pandits. Surely, Indian leftists will approve of supporting minority Hindus in Kashmir.

Even this is tenacious since Pakistan is not a country but a jihadi outpost. Still something has to be done.

arun · Post by **arun** » 23 Oct 2015 19:50

X Posted from the “Oppression of Minorities In Pakistan” thread.

Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden religion based sectarian violence in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan sees demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan in a Mosque used by the minority Mohammadden Shia sect.

Looks like the “Strategic Asset” Non-State Actors created by the State Actors of the Punjabi Military dominated Deep State of the Islamic Republic to oppress the Baloch people have as it were gone off reservation for some private sport:

Ten killed as suicide bomber strikes imambargah in Balochistan

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 24 Oct 2015 17:26

Protester disrupts Pakistan prime minister's speech in Washington

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A protester disrupted a speech by Pakistan's President Nawaz Sharif at a Washington think tank on Friday, shouting slogans in support of freedom for the Pakistani province of Baluchistan.

A man in the audience at the U.S. Institute of Peace stood up and shouted "Free, Free Baluchistan!" and accused the Pakistani prime minister of being "friends" with late al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, just as Sharif was starting a speech.

Sharif looked up and paused briefly as the man was led away, but did not comment on the interruption.

Separatists have been waging a low-intensity insurgency in poverty-racked Baluchistan for decades, demanding an end to what they see as the exploitation of their gas and mineral resources by people from richer, more powerful parts of Pakistan.

arun · Post by **arun** » 04 Feb 2016 21:44

A new Shenzhen? Poor Pakistan fishing town's horror at Chinese plans : Mega-port will bring five-star hotels and Chinese access to Arabian Sea, as residents in conflict-torn province contend with lack of water and food:

Guardian, UK

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Balochistan: Pakistan's information black hole-Province is the hardest place in the country for human rights workers, diplomats and journalists to operate, as the Guardian discovered on a visit to the region

Guardian, UK

arun · Post by **arun** » 19 Mar 2016 08:33

X Posted from the "Oppression Of Minorities In Pakistan" thread.

Sociology text book used in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s dominant Punjab province defines the minority people of Punjab Occupied Balochistan as “Uncivilised” and “people who lived in the desert and looted caravans”.

Is it then any surprise that that the Punjabi dominated Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan commit so many atrocities against the freedom seeking Baloch?:

Textbook definition of ‘Baloch’ shocks Senate

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 22 Apr 2016 12:19

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 22 Apr 2016 12:47

There are links in the first post of this thread, which are broken

http://www.boloji.com/index.cfm?md=Cont ... cleID=6602

takes one to a list of disparate articles

http://www.Balochvoice.com/index_a.html
http://www.balochistaninfo.com/balochis ... sweden.htm

take one to expired domains

http://www.petitiononline.com/baloch/petition.html

takes one to an expired petition

http://www.zrombesh.org/maqalat/Press_r ... 5B1%5D.htm

takes one to a file not found on some Japanese site

etc. etc.

Considering that Baluchistan has again become a more prominent topic, perhaps the links in the first post ought to be cleaned up.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Aug 2016 03:08

Up. Baluchistan is in prominence after NaMo mentioned the atrocities there in his 15 August Independence Day speech.

Can we track the various Baluch groups and their armed wings?
Also identify the Pak troops and weapons?

Twitter is agog with pictures and videos.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Aug 2016 03:15

We started this thread almost ten years ago when the rape of Pak Army Major Shazia Khaled in 2005 revived the simmering Baloch insurgency and Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti was killed by Musharraf.
We have come a long way. Now NaMo addresses the issues from Lal Kot.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 17 Aug 2016 20:05

There are many videos of interest post PM Modi's statement on India's support for independent Balochistan (as also retaking POK) after the all party meet on J&K held on 12th August 2016 and in his Independence day speech from Red Fort on 15th Aug 2016.

This is my selection:
1st excerpt of ID speech:

2nd > Reaction of Baloch Independence leaders:

3rd > TimesNow Newshour debate with Paki Panelists. The full debate is worth watching but specially hear G Parthasarthy. His observations are factual and pointed about the pressure points of Pakistan. For Eg: 24% of PA is composed of Pushtoons and there is a Pushtoon angle to this current maneuvering (IMO) given that 50K fighting age men have fled into Afghanistan to escape Zarb-e-Azb.