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I understand that the fencing and the actual border has a gap of 500 meters between them. If the fence comes up, a dozen houses or so will find themselves between the barb wired fence and the actual myanmar border.

Both the fencing along pakistan and bangladesh have been a unilateral indian project and the indo-myanmar fencing should be no different. The fences are built within the border because building it is one thing and maintaining it is another. The craziest fence(and porus) we have is on the indo-bangla border which runs over land, water, streams and rivers(well, it tries to).

Even if the fence does not mark or become the international border, no family would want to live inside those 500 meters.

Still some photos and google imagery would help people understand the case bit better.

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Anyway, these are two ethnic and topographical maps

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The T shaped hill terrain(meghalaya, nagaland, manipur and mizoram)

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The ethnic composition on the myanmar side
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Something new is developing on the india myanmar border. Some areas there are contested by both india and myanmar. Some burmese officials have begun asserting on the territory by clearing the vegetation and building an army camp.

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(Left) Trees have been cut down for the construction of a camp by the Myanmar Army at Holenphai village in Manipur; (right) a Myanmar Army officer talks to Indian officials near Moreh - the border town of Manipur.
The Additional Collector told the commanding officer of 87 Light infantry of the Myanmarese Army to suspend the work till a settlement is brought about. However, the commanding officer was not happy that the Indian officials had come inside the “territory” of Myanmar. He told the Indian officials that he cannot do anything unless his higher officials gave him orders.

He also told the Indian officials that according to a map of the BritishersImage, this area is well within Myanmar.
Myanmar Army erecting camp in Manipur territory, allege officials

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Border row Myanmar moves to set up base at Cdl dist
“According to the Myanmar map, Holenphai falls within Myanmar territory,” he said adding, ‘The Myanmar army is setting up its temporary Platoon base camp within its territory.

“Unless the higher authority said so I cannot halt the work,” he said while assuring that he would convey the matter to the higher authorities.
This is unusual because this is happening at a time when the chinese have begun asserting in the north.
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Is there a reason why all this is made a choice across many borders.
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Indo-Myanmar border row surfaces in Manipur
The Myanmarese army has asked the tribal village chief of Hollenphai village to demolish houses and churches located at “areas of Myanmar.”
Myanmarese army’s instruction to demolish houses and churches in this village had been conveyed to the district administration.

Some days ago the police and civil officials of Chandel district had rushed there and held brief talks with an army officer of Myanmar there. But since the border fence has left out large chunks of the village the Myanmarese army claims it as the land of that country. It was also contended that as per maps maintained by the British, it is the land of Myanmar.
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Moreh the border town on the indo-myanmar border. Map showing three different border lines, one(red) passing through moreh, another(yellow) puts the entire town on myanmar side. Blue line appears "secular", ie, the opposite of pseudo secular Image

A simple android phone with a-gps would have marked out all the border pillars on google maps. Currently we're not sure about the actual outline on the ground. sigh
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An IED blast in imphal, manipur - link
9 non-local labourers, all hailing from Assam, were killed and 11, including a local man, injured as a powerful bomb went off at Khoyathong, Imphal around 7:30 p.m. on Friday
These type of blasts has happened before. Most of these victims are construction labourers from bengal, bihari or assam origin hired on contractual basis on infra projects. Kidnapping for ransom also happens.

As I keep up regularly with the events in the NE, I understand why the mainstream media ignores this region. It's one of the those weird wild west parts of the country. The local ethno-lingual squabbles are intense and hardcore. The infighting between tamils vs gujaratis vs marathis vs bhaiyas is more vocal than physical. On the other hand, the NE ethno-lingual groups have crossed the lines of melodrama long time ago.

The exist of the british raj in 1947 has caused a massive paranoia in the region for survival. The land is limited and hostile nations exist on all sides. These guys have been living in fortified colonies and practising strict endogamy like other groups around india so genetic variations are visibly recognizable and obvious. The introduction of hinduism have created a class system where the head hunting tribes and the likes have been made outcasts and shunned instead of incorporating them. The mass adoption of protestantism within the tribal community arises due to a sense of discrimination and feelings of being rejected. Christianity is a political tool for the tribals. The arrival of indian troops in the region post 1947 has made matters more complex.
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nivishal, excellent, incisive commentary, though a little hard on Hinduism and the Indian army! You should post your message in forums or newspapers in the UK and US, where this subject is discussed or brought up. Much of the commentary on this subject tends to the demagogic and the mendacious i.e questioning these areas being in India at all, which is absolutely ridiculous. They are states within India's federation, and possessing democracy and high levels of freedom of expression. That should never, ever be within the contours of the debate, under any circumstances!
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@Varoon
I'm simply telling it like it is.

The tribals have a self loathing attitude towards their tribal past. They view the baptists as their saviours for connecting them to the civilized world. This is contrary to their hindu neighbours in the area who viewed them as uncivilised nuisance and preferred to keep a distance. For the tribals, the line of thought goes that if it weren't for the baptists, they would still be roaming the jungles naked as their hindu counterparts looked down on them.

This is a PoV which we have not considered because we haven't put ourselves in their shoes. Take an example of the african tribes living on the andaman islands. Our view would be to not disturb their way of life. Contrast to this, if it were for the tribals protestants in the north-east, their view would be to send a baptist missionary to the andamans asap to "save these people".

Again, this baptist philosophy is an alien concept to most indians but it is important for us to think like them to understand them.
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Thai gunrunner reveals arms supply info
Sept. 23: A Thai gunrunner, apprehended in Bangkok recently, has revealed “key information” about the supply chain for smuggling arms from China to the Northeast through Bangladesh.

Willy Naruenartwanich alias Willy Narue, who figures on the wanted list of National Investigation Agency (NIA), was picked up by Thai authorities from Bangkok on August 30 following India’s request. A team of NIA officials is camping in Bangkok to start the extradition process.

An official source told The Telegraph that preliminary questioning of the accused by Thai authorities has revealed that he, along with the leaders of NSCN (I-M), had hatched a plan to send a huge consignment of arms and ammunitions from China to the Northeast. “Willy had told Thai police that the arms consignment was to start from Beihei port in South China Sea near Vietnam to Cox’s Bazar in Bangladesh. On the high seas, the consignment was to be shifted to small fishing trawlers to reach Bangladesh, and then to the Northeast,” he said.

The NIA is hoping to extract crucial information about Willy’s contacts and their bases in Bangladesh. It hopes to track them down with the help of the Bangladesh government to break the supply chain of arms for the Northeast rebel groups.

Willy, of Thai-Chinese origin, is one of the four accused chargesheeted by the NIA in its case number RC-01.

The case was registered by the agency in 2010 in connection with the alleged conspiracy by NSCN (I-M) leaders Anthony Shimray, T.R. Cavlin and Hangshi Ramson, to procure arms and ammunitions from China. They were, however, forced to abort their plan following Shimray’s arrest in September 2010. The other two NSCN (I-M) leaders are still absconding.

According to the NIA, a middleman introduced Shimray to Willy, who runs a spa and a restaurant in Bangkok. “Shimray told Willy he wanted to procure 1,000 firearms. Willy introduced Shimray to Yuthna, who is a representative of a Chinese firm called TCL in 2007. TCL is a front for Chinese arms manufacturing giant Norinco and through TCL they have planned to procure the arms and ammunition,” the source said.

“Shimray had told Yuthna that the NSCN (I-M) wants to procure arms for $1million (approximately Rs 60 crore), including AK-series automatic rifles, light machine guns, rocket launchers, rocket-propelled grenades and five lakh rounds of ammunition,” the source said.

According to him, Shimray had paid $700,000 to TCL through Willy in May, 2009. He said the NIA has emails exchanged between Shimray and Willy and electronic receipts sent to Shimray for the payment.

Shimray had also paid $100,000 to shipping agent Kittichai of Intermarine Shipping Company of Bangkok.

The source said the payment was made to the Chinese firm through normal banking channels via a leading private bank’s branch in an African country.

“Willy had also allegedly helped Shimray to get an end-user certificate from Laos,” he said.”
This guy was arrested quite a while back and the NIA has been trying to extradite him ever since.

The NSCN(IM) is a militia belonging to the community of tangkhul tribes that lives on the borders between nagaland and manipur.

There is another militia called NSCN(K) who serve for the tribes of the konyak and others in the opposite side of the tangkhul.
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These are documentary footages of the konyak tribe from old times

40 - India, Nagaland, c.1971 Konyak Naga. Colour, silent 20mins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qTx0ywHhVU

41 - India, Nagaland, Konyak Naga; c.1971. Colour, silent 20mins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shbZAanf6Ss

42 - India, Nagaland, Konyak Naga; c.1971. Colour, silent 24mins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JurNuczDa8M

Don't expect these lifestyles today. The introduction of baptists, TV and internet have almost completely changed the picture. Even though many of them dress in designer western outfits, you have to realize that its only been a few decades since they have come into contact with the outside world so don't expect a matured intellect or a non-biblical world view.

Finally, this one takes footages from all three and provides narration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkXSCsPSujo
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Our MEA is too busy or perhaps the maai baap dilli sultanate too are too busy to notice. Too busy to see how on one shore or the other shore things appear. What is the need of marine corps when Nigeria on one side or Thailand from other side isn't visible no directly from shores. Some excuses may be given on what's point in capabilities when there is no land between say Sri Lanka to South pole(or say whatever who cares). Or US marine corps is there no-that's ultimate argument too in absolute terms as it has support of biggest war machine.
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This is an important map for reference (though not completely accurate because its impossible)
It shows the ethno-linguistic groups occupying the three insurgency hit states.
Notice the ethnic groups that live along the borders and across the borders(myanmar and bangladesh)
Notice the naga settlements in north manipur and chin settlements in south manipur
Notice the chakma district council in mizoram

Significant meitei colonies also exist in assam, tripura and myanmar.

Immediately right of manipur(ie, on myanmar side) is ralte, gangte, anal, zome and meitei.
This vertical narrow stretch of territory is called kabaw valley given away to myanmar.
The manipuris hold a strongly negative feeling about it..

Many(actually, a lot!) chin ethnic tribes live on the myanmar side of the border.
In fact, more chins live on the myanmar side than nagas or meiteis.
Chin people are called "mizo" and "kuki" on the indian side of the border

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Nearly 19,000 Bangladeshis detected in Meghalaya
Nearly 19,000 Bangladeshi infiltrators were detected in Meghalaya in less than six years, a police official said Friday.

According to the Meghalaya government figures, in the past five years until September 2013, 18,951 Bangladeshis were “detected” in the state. Of these, 978 were “prosecuted” and rest pushed back intoBangladesh.

This year alone, the police detected 3,163 illegal Bangladeshis in the state. At least 126 were “prosecuted” and 3,037 were sent back.

Another factor responsible for influx of Bangladeshi nationals is high demand of cheap labour in coal mining areasand manual jobs, a Meghalaya government official said.
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@ Vasu

There is a flux in north-east that pulls in labour from outside. The odd jobs are taken up and filled by migrants. Most of the bomb blasts in the last months that have targeted non-local civilians have been muslims. Some locals have speculated that muslim migrants have been pushed inside north-east with government assistance(see vote bank politics in west bengal) to change the demographics in favour of the congress.

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A map separating tibetans from burmese

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Three bomb blasts in the last two weeks reports local newspapers.
All blasts are in meitei territory, speculated involvement of meitei militants groups.

From here
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Folks I would like an integrated development plan for Arunachal Pradesh. I would like it to be comprehensive that improves the population well being in all aspects and tightly links AP to India. Can we rise to that challenge?
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Tracking the source of ‘Weapon Providers’ for NE Rebels
Time and again, Indian security personnel have indicated that the armed groups in Northeast India have sustained their armed violence due to the uninterrupted flow of weapons from across the border in Myanmar. The suspects in Myanmar are the Karen National Union (KNU) and the Kachin Independence Army (KIA). True these two armed ethnic groups have acted as the interlocking chain for the illegal weapons flow from Yunnan in China via Myanmar to Northeast India. However, the most effective illegal weapons trader in Myanmar is the armed ethnic group, the United Wa State Army (UWSA).

The UWSA is the military wing of the United Wa State Party (UWSP) founded in 1989 with members of Wa National Council (WNC), which represent the Wa ethnic group and former members of the Communist Party of Burma (CPB). The UWSA declared its own Wa State Government Special Administrative Region within Myanmar on January 1, 2009, but not recognized by the Government of Myanmar. The Wa State is modeled after China, having a Central Committee and the UWSP. The UWSA is not demanding a separate independent state and has signed a cease-fire with the Myanmar government in 1989. The reality, however, is that the Wa territories are completely under the Chinese radar. Because of the absence of a written script, the Wa State government conducts its official activities in Chinese. Most commodities within the Wa State are from China and the currency of exchange is the Renminbi. The Chinese Phoenix TV is very popular and the cellular phone network is dominated by China Mobile. Even the Chinese postal codes are used for mail delivery. For China, its linkage with the UWSA is of strategic priority, even more so than its bilateral relationship with the democratizing Myanmar government. The opening up of Myanmar and its political reform have rendered Chinese influence thinner and other countries like the US are upping their stakes in Myanmar. The US interest is vindicated by the fact that the first foreign visit by President Barack Obama in his second term was to Myanmar.

The geographic reality and strategic vulnerability of the China-Myanmar border explains why the UWSA is of critical importance to China. Five divisions of the UWSA are deployed along the Thai-Myanmar border and three divisions along the China-Myanmar border. The total strength of the UWSA is 30, 000 armed cadres with 10, 000 auxiliary force. Its writ is written large in these border areas and its dependence on China for financial and other support makes the UWSA a stakeholder in increased Chinese influence in Northeastern Myanmar. According to Jane's Intelligence Review of April 2008, China became the main source of arms to the UWSA, displacing countries like Thailand and Cambodia who formed part of the traditional black market sources.1 In a December 2008 report, Jane's Intelligence Review reported that “China…provided the Wa with advanced weapons to build up their defenses. The transfers included surface to air missiles and, for the first time, at least 12 armored vehicles the report refers to as 'tank destroyers.'”2 In 2013, Jane’s reported that several Mil Mi-17 helicopters armed with TY-90 air-to-air missiles were supplied to UWSA by China.3 These allegations have been dismissed by China but the Wa-China connection is deep seated and actively supported by the Chinese government and the PLA. China’s supply of the Mil Mi-17 helicopters has been corroborated by Southeast Asia specialist Bertil Litner in his June 25, 2013 article for the Asia Times4.

The UWSA’s biggest source of revenue is its involvement in the illegal small arms network across South and Southeast Asia. It manufactures Chinese weapons with an “informal franchise”, procured from Chinese ordnance factories. The main motive is to sell these weapons for huge profit to Northeastern Indian armed groups who are lucrative consumers of such weapons. The arms manufacturing unit in the Wa territories are supported by the Chinese factories in Yunnan. Most of the weapons manufactured include machine guns, pistols, rifles and revolvers. The fact that some of the UWSA members were earlier members of the CPB helps establish connection within China especially with Chinese arms factories across the border in Yunnan.

Incidentally, the Wa people that the UWSA represents live largely in Northeastern Burma bordering China and Thailand. The Wa has ethnic kin in China’s Yunnan province and is one of the 56 ethnic nationalities officially recognized by China. In Myanmar, the Wa forms one of the 135 officially recognized ethnic groups. The border between the Wa territories and China is porous, and Han Chinese migration into these areas is on the rise. The Burmese Han population was approximately 1.6 million in 2012.

Myanmar has made attempts to persuade the UWSA to sign a ‘nationwide ceasefire’. However, the UWSA did not participate in the four day conference that started early November on a ‘nationwide cease-fire’. This conference, held in the Kachin city of Laiza saw participation of 18 major Myanmar armed ethnic groups including the Kachins. The UWSA’s refusal to take part in this nationwide cease-fire stems from two issues. First, it is already under cease-fire with the Myanmar government. Second, accepting a nationwide cease-fire creates limitations for its demand for an autonomous Wa state.

For India, there are three important security implications. First, the increasing role of the UWSA in illegal small arms proliferation in the Northeast India from Myanmar ensures that the armed ethnic groups in India’s border states will continue. Second, Myanmar’s political reform and the re-entry of the US as an important player in Myanmar incentivize China to increase its support for the UWSA for political leverage. Third, the absence of robust border-defense and monitoring mechanisms in India’s northeastern borders perpetuates this cycle of conflict and lawlessness. Therefore, prioritizing policy on the source of small arms from the UWSA is critical if India wants to disarm the armed groups in the Northeast.
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Where are our secular intellectuals, news anchors and media ? Do they subconsiously think that Mizoram is not part of India or it is ok to bow before Christian fundamentalism and superstitions ?

Mizoram polls: The politics of religion is on the wall, in posters
A huge poster of the late Laldenga, founder-president of the main opposition Mizo National Front, on a wall of Congress Bhavan in Aizawl takes one by surprise. So do the posters of state Congress chief Lal Thanhawla at the MNF headquarters, Hnam Run.

With the battle to form Mizoram's seventh government taking a turn towards identity politics, the two main parties — Congress and Mizo National Front — have tried to outdo each other in a curious way; show through pictures that leaders of the other party have worshipped in and attended ceremonies of other religions.

One of the MNF's main poll planks this election is based on exploiting sentiments of the largely Christian Mizos against four-time Congress Chief Minister Lal Thanhawla, who has on several occasions taken part in pujas while visiting other states, sporting a tilak on his forehead at one ceremony he attended with his wife.

The MNF began work on the strategy months ago, even taking out a massive rally in Aizawl to protest the CM's "bowing before other gods" and has since not missed any opportunity to take potshots at the CM, constantly exploiting the Christian belief that idol-worship is unacceptable.

Lal Thanhawla, who teaches at Bible classes each Sunday during church services in his home neighbourhood of Zarkawt oin Aizawl, unwittingly fed himself to the cannon by telling a TV talk show host that even Christian pastors sport tilaks when they go outside the state. Church leaders, whom politicians take care to have on their side, especially ahead of polls, were outraged, publicly condemning the CM's statement.

Sensing the mood, the MNF, while announcing its second and final list of candidates for the November 25 polls a week ago, distributed brochures carrying photographs of the CM and his wife attending Hindu ceremonies, including lighting a lamp in front of an idol of Durga, cracking open coconuts at a ceremony and the CM's mugshot with a tilak on his forehead.

"We are not condemning the CM following another religion, it is his right. But he must keep in mind that it is because the leader of this land has committed a sin against God that the land has seen many tragic incidents. As the Bible says, the sins of the leader will lead to tragedies for the land," the brochure reads, subtly referring to the natural disasters that have hit the state over the past few years.

Not to be outdone, the Congress has put up a poster of the MNF's founder-president the late Laldenga attending a ceremony in a gurdwara.

"We care not saying Laldenga worshipped the Sikh religion. All we are saying is that Sikhs must have been enamoured of and affectionate towards him and we are happy that was the case," a poster on a west wall of Congress Bhavan says, carrying black-and-white pictures of Laldenga, the rebel leader-turned-politician who gave his party a slogan it uses to this day — "For God and our land".
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ramana wrote:Folks I would like an integrated development plan for Arunachal Pradesh. I would like it to be comprehensive that improves the population well being in all aspects and tightly links AP to India. Can we rise to that challenge?
Not unless we can change from a position of defence to offence; this is dictated by capability. The han are very paranoid about xinjiang and tibet. They are well aware that the tibetan ethnic groups will not accept han rule but that does not stop them from securing their strategic interests. For the han, the region of tibet is a buffer zone against india besides resources and land route to euroasia.

@Rony
The chin, naga and several other tribals in this region(india and myanmar) are culturally very apart. They are stuck in a perpetual mode to conspire(against themselves, against other ethnic groups in the region, against india, against myanmar etc), it's really amazing actually.

Indian anthropologists and military strategists observe them anonymously rather than interfere in their society or way of life. Myanmar too follows a similar policy of non-interference with the ethnic groups on its western borders though recently its policy has undergone dramatic changes. The border fencing in manipur in not mutual; india has gone alone. It maybe directly connected to the political situation in myanmar. I have posted maps of the region several times trying to mark the protestant ethnic groups on the india-myanmar borders. I'm very sceptical about what myanmar plans to do with its christian populations on the border. The last thing we want now is another bangladesh 1971.
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Eight injured in Manipur bomb explosion
Seven labourers of the 25 BN Border Roads Task Force and a young girl were wounded when the People Liberation Army (PLA) insurgents detonated a remote controlled bomb at Harkhui village in Ukhrul district bordering Myanmar on Monday afternoon.

Seven-year-old Sonia, who was in a BRTF truck along with her father, was seriously injured and had to undergo leg amputation. Condition of three labourers is said to be serious.

The labourers are engaged in the construction of the roads in the mountainous areas of the district. Additional police and paramilitary forces are combing the areas. However police fear that the insurgents had fled to their camps in no man's land soon after the explosion of the bomb.

In a statement issued on Monday night the PLA which is the military wing of the Revolutionary People's Front said that the Indian government has been sending its agents in the interior areas as a "spy force". On the basis of inputs supplied by these forces, many insurgents had been arrested and killed in the past. It further said that the attack was a part of the "freedom movement".

Police have registered a case. No arrest has been made.
Meanwhile the nagas have implemented yet another(the nth) economic blockade on the meities
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Elections to the Rabha Hasong Autonomous council is taking place. This will bring Goalpara and parts of Kamrup district under tribal control - hopefully. The districts of dhubri, nagaon and morigaon also need to be brought under tribal control. This will free western assam from illegal control.
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nvishal wrote:A map separating tibetans from burmese

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Btw, I forgot to mention...

There are more burmese ethnic communities that live in meghalaya such as garo, khasi etc belonging to the larger mon-khymer ethnic group. The tripuri tribal groups in tripura and many more in assam but it's not possible to mark these territories.
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The militancy problems with indian troops and inter-tribal clashes are intrinsic to these burmese groups.

Contrast to this, the tibetan ethnic groups in AP(also nepali communities in manipur, assam etc) are calm and go by their lives uneventfully.

I think we're all unconsciously lumping these two different groups under one roof(north-east) and distorting the picture.

Henceforth I will be using the names burmese ethnic groups and tibetan ethnic groups instead of "north-east ethnic groups" against an event which will give a more accurate picture.

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Meanwhile, president pranab mukherjee attended a festival in nagaland which marks its statehood day(dec 1963). On that day, the GoI and the militants agreed on the unique sixteen point agreement which made nagaland a unique state within the union of india. It is technically an "independent" state with fiscal, military and foreign policy under indian control.
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Assembly Elections December 2013 Results - Mizoram

40 Constituencies

Indian National Congress = 34
Mizo National Front = 5
Mizoram People's Conference = 1
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X posted from Psy Ops and Media watch thread

Indian way of Secularism; Church-backed body has its own poll rules.
AIZWAL: 'Thy Kingdom Come' . That's how Mizoram welcomes you. Painted big and bold across a giant Cross a few yards from the runway at state capital Aizwal's Lengpui airport, the message seems ominous as you get familiar with the political nitty-gritty of this Christian-dominated state.

The election process has a sense of divine edict about it. The Church pushed the Election Commission to reschedule polling and counting dates to accommodate the Presbyterian Church's fiveday Synod despite chief electoral officer Ashwani Kumar's protests; counting was postponed by a day to December 9 because 'Sunday is meant for prayers'. Not just that, the clergy also plays virtual election commission. The Church has issued a four-page list of do's and don'ts for voters and candidates. Apart from the honesty and harmony bits, it says: "Refrain from voting for those who drink or have extra-marital sex." With almost 70% of Mizoram following the Presbyterian Church, no party rubs them the wrong way.

Dr Robert Halliday, secretary of Mizoram Presbyterian Church, says: "Mizoram's common people are pious, they'll abide by any Church guideline. We can only urge them to lead a moral life. We don't want to interfere with the election, rather we want to facilitate the process."

Mizoram People's Forum, a Church-sponsored watchdog formed in 2006, has signed a 27-point 'MoU' with major political parties, including the ruling Congress and BJP, to ensure a 'free and fair' election. Apart from curbs on lavish campaigning, the charter prohibits tall promises in manifesto , bans public meetings and protest rallies and tells parties not to organize vehicles to drop voters to polling booths. Hinting at Rahul and Sonia Gandhi's visit later this month, MPF general secretary Lalramthanga said: "Rules won't be relaxed for star campaigners of national parties. MPF will conduct the public meetings permitted by the Mizoram Pradesh Congress Committee."

No party defies the diktats. If they do, the MPF would "invalid the party (sic)," says the MoU. "Constituencies here are small — 15,000 to 20,000 — each vote counts. No politician can afford to ignore the Church's guidelines ," says CEO Kumar.

Insisting the EC, MPF and the Church share a common goal — free and fair elections — Kumar explains: "In Mizoram, the Church is older than the government . The state was formed in 1986 after the Church facilitated the peace process. Until recently, they looked after the people's education and healthcare. The Church isn't just a religious institution here, it's a way of life, the centre of social activities."

While the EC's lauded the MPF's role, many question the religious body's role in a democratic process.

"Elections should remain secular . The scenario in Mizoram is like that of 18th century Europe when religious doctrine got mixed up with political administration," says Lallianchhunga, assistant professor of political science, Mizoram University. "Would similar orders issued by another religious body in another part of India be accepted by the politicians?" he asks. "Going by this logic, we shouldn't have elections on Fridays and Tuesdays either because they are holy days for some religions."

College-goer Nghaka believes MPF is a Frankenstein in the making . "What authority does it have to issue guidelines beyond those issued by the EC? We're supposed to elect leaders, not saints. Some of the best leaders in world history - including Churchill and Kennedy, one a heavy drinker and another known for extra-marital affairs - would never have been able to contest elections in Mizoram."
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Last year in october, Army Chief Gen Bikram Singh went on a five day tour to myanmar. As a token, the Chief of army of myanmar, General Soe Win along with his wife and six officers have just ended their six day tour of india through the north east on dec 10.

Both sides reiterated their stand to disallow safe havens to militants and military co-operation
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Two sumi naga missionaries were returning home for christmas, were stopped on the way and sexually harassed by the cadres of the Isak-Muivah faction of NSCN. The sumi village sarpanch ordered the NSCN military camp to close down. NSCN's refusal to do so ended in a fire fight between the villagers and the cadres.

Over the last 10 days, the villagers choked supplies and forced a halt to the fighting. The camp was provided security by the assam rifles. An agreement was reached as the militants were given a free passage.

However, know this that the NSCN(IM) is the most favourable org among the naga people. It can be called a pan naga militant organisation. NSCN(IM) is currently the only naga militant org in peace talks with the GoI.

Hint: The NSCN(IM) provides political, moral and diplomatical support to every separatist organisation in the north-east. Hosting these guys is very essential.

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In other news:

In assam, Karbi People's Liberation Tigers ( KLPT) militants forced eviction of around a hundred Rengma Nagas villagers.

The violence is a backlash for the attempts by the nagas to expand their zone of operation(taxes) on karbi villagers.

Actually, the karbis are the shias of this region, hunted by all other tribal communities - Say Karbi & You're Dead GORY WARNING
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Nine fresh bodies have been taken out from a roadside drain by local police in nagaland. One of the nine victims has been identified as the general secretary of the Karbi Students Association(KSA). gory warning

Karbi-Rengma rage fall-out ? 9 decomposed bodies found in Nagaland
Highly de-composed bodies of nine un- identified persons, who were blindfolded with hands tied up, have been found buried in a gorge near Chumukedima in Dimapur district of Nagaland.

The victims were found blindfolded with hands tied behind and shot from close range on the heads, he said, adding that the bodies were covered with a blue polythene sheet over which some boulders were placed.
Meanwhile,
Indefinite curfew has been enforced in the Bokajan area adjoining Dimapur following the spreading of the Rengma-Karbi ethnic problem to the area which is fast heightening.

One Karbi man was killed this evening in the Nagaland-Assam border near Dimapur.

Reports said militants believed to be from the Naga Rengma Hills Protection Force (NRHPF) shot dead the man at 6 pm today and injured seven others.
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Tripura: Marginal Concerns
The stabilisation process gained further momentum in Tripura through 2013, and, remarkably, the State did not record a single terrorism-related fatality through the year - a signal achievement secured for the first time since 1992. 2012 had recorded two fatalities, both militants, in two separate incidents. Significantly, at its peak in 2004, the militancy had claimed as many as 514 lives, including 453 civilians, 45 militants and 16 Security Force (SF) personnel.
On May 16, 2013, Tripura Chief Minister Manik Sarkar disclosed that a total of 8,831 militants and their collaborators had laid down arms over the past decade. Among the surrendered militants, just three persons reneged to rejoin their respective militant outfits.
The Police led-Counter-Insurgency operations in Tripura have successfully reclaimed peace after some of the most violent decades in the State. The State has also established a remarkable Police presence, with 639 Policemen per 100,000 population, and 223.8 Policemen per 100 square kilometres, well above the national averages of 138 and 52.9, respectively, as well as dramatic capabilities to confront any future challenge of insurgency.
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Some awful killing of 5 Hindi speaking travellers on a bus yesterday, somewhere in Assam. The media should continually cover this, until the perpetrators have been caught. We know that terrorists in Kashmir and Punjab have been caught or killed, but in Assam, we rarely learn about successes against terrorists. It's also interesting that we read about some of the negative experiences people from the North East have in the rest of India i.e being frequently mistaken for Chinese, or having their women aggressively ogled etc.

But what about the horrendous xenophobia in some of these NE states? Hardly exemplary behaviour.
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Varoon Shekhar wrote:Some awful killing of 5 Hindi speaking travellers on a bus yesterday, somewhere in Assam. The media should continually cover this, until the perpetrators have been caught. We know that terrorists in Kashmir and Punjab have been caught or killed, but in Assam, we rarely learn about successes against terrorists. It's also interesting that we read about some of the negative experiences people from the North East have in the rest of India i.e being frequently mistaken for Chinese, or having their women aggressively ogled etc.

But what about the horrendous xenophobia in some of these NE states? Hardly exemplary behaviour.

This was done by anti-talks faction of Bodos the NDFB (reportedly the Christian faction). Best thing to do will be to use the BLT to neutralize NDFB.
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Supratik wrote:
Varoon Shekhar wrote:Some awful killing of 5 Hindi speaking travellers on a bus yesterday, somewhere in Assam. The media should continually cover this, until the perpetrators have been caught. We know that terrorists in Kashmir and Punjab have been caught or killed, but in Assam, we rarely learn about successes against terrorists. It's also interesting that we read about some of the negative experiences people from the North East have in the rest of India i.e being frequently mistaken for Chinese, or having their women aggressively ogled etc.

But what about the horrendous xenophobia in some of these NE states? Hardly exemplary behaviour.

This was done by anti-talks faction of Bodos the NDFB (reportedly the Christian faction). Best thing to do will be to use the BLT to neutralize NDFB.

Yes, if it takes that. But in the meantime, don't let these types of massacres be forgotten, or be pushed to the 'used car section'. They are horrendous and inexcusable. Whatever grievances these people have, this faction or that faction, there is no excuse for this garbage. The family members of this massacre should be interviewed on national TV, and the real sense of atrocity and tragedy should be brought out.

Also, some informed academic or northeast specialist, should come on national television and strongly denounce this whole culture of 'fear of the other'. Because, let's face it, there is not *one*( can you name one?) progressive, uplifting, humanistic, life affirming quality to all this violence in the NE. We are not talking about Nelson Mandela, Aung San Suu Kyi or the Dalai Lama. This is piggish blood letting.
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Nagaland: descent into chaos
By R. N. Ravi (retired Special Director, Intelligence Bureau)

If any of you remember, RN ravi is the same guy who wrote the following article a year back - Chasing a chimeric peace, also on internal politics of nagaland

In his new article, he is criticizing the indian govt for entering into a peace agreement with the NSCN(IM). Some of his opinions are quite exaggerated.

As I've tried explaining it before, I will once again. The NSCN(IM) are the sunnis of the north-east region. Their ties and engagements with other militants org in this region are substantial. They in fact have a huge following and support base from the naga tribes(contrary to what you might otherwise) compared to other tribal militias. If they want, they have the capacity to unleash hell all over the region so it is very important to have them on the indian side.

Look at it this way, the naga and other tribal problems in this region cannot be solved within this generation so why fight the militants? It won't achieve any objectives. At best, new delhi could sign peace deals(ceasefire) with many of them. Believe it or not, the killings actually subside when new delhi engages with them politically. The only problem is the spill over. Not only has NSCN(IM) been having its own way in nagaland, but it is also eyeing regions of assam, manipur and arunachal.
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Why is KLO suddenly waking up and creating nuisance in North Bengal/Assam border area? Are they getting instigated by NDFB with foreign money?
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Kati wrote:Why is KLO suddenly waking up and creating nuisance in North Bengal/Assam border area? Are they getting instigated by NDFB with foreign money?
It may be a blessing in disguise. Need to establish Kamtapur autonomous region in western assam and perhaps WB to free the region of illegals. GOI doesn't listen unless you blow a few crackers.
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What do people of Mizoram think about rest of India?
Benjamin Rualthanzauva

We do feel like Indians as a Citizen but culturally we don't. Because we are just too different, to keep long story short.
By Kima de Mizohican, Co-Founder @ FITH Media

Culturally, yes, we feel very different...

...but then again, India is a land of diversities, consisting of many different cultures and traditions. Here is my attempt at answering your question.

First of all, let me state that it is difficult to answer such a blunt and direct question that will have different answers based on the perspective and background of the person answering. And I will need to generalize a bit here in order to simplify my answer, so I’m just grouping the entire Mainland India (that is, excluding the North Eastern States) as one group. Of course there will be aberrations and exceptional cases here and there which I hope we can ignore during this discourse.

I'm a Mizo, a person from Mizoram, but I was brought up outside Mizoram since class 3 (1992 onwards) at various boarding schools and colleges across India, and I travel back to Mizoram once or twice a year for vacations to be with my friends and family. Apart from Hindi and Mizo, I speak a bit of Tamil, and also understand a bit of Malayalam, Bengali and Marathi. I have been exposed to different Indian cultures and cuisines, so the way I think of India may be a bit different from a Mizo who has never set foot outside Mizoram, hence let me try my best to give a balanced and generalized answer.

How do Mizos think of India?

The first thing most Mizos experience when we leave our state and come to this side of the country for education or jobs are the racial abuses. This is a problem faced by most North Eastern Indians with mongoloid features. Being called “chinkis”, “ching chongs” and being jeered at on the streets in public (even after the SC prohibition) is still a common experience for us even today. So yes, somebody experiencing that for the first time will definitely have a bitter opinion about Indians in general.

But does that mean we Mizos are just victims and we aren’t racists ourselves?

In Mizoram, we call mainland Indians (people having the Indian majority “Indo-Aryan” and “Dravidian” looks and physical features) as "Vai". The word “Vai” originated from the Hindi word “Bhai” which means “brother” and it is used to describe a non-Mizo, an outsider.

According to one legend, when Mizo warriors ventured from the mountains to the plains for the first time and met the plains-people who had completely different facial features, cultures and languages, through the use of sign languages and colloquial words, those people introduced themselves to the Mizos as “bhai”, to indicate their friendliness. Another legend stated that it was the British who brought people from Mainland India to our land and introduced them to us as “Bhai” so as to bring in a feeling of goodwill between our two groups.

Since we didn’t have a “bh” in our Mizo vocabulary, we ended up pronouncing it as “Vai” instead of bhai, and henceforth, people with such facial features, ie, ANI - Ancestral North Indians and ASI - Ancestral South Indians (refer: Indian people) came to be known as Vai’s.

So that’s what most Mizos think of India, that a majority of its population are made up of Vais. And calling somebody a “Vai” actually means calling that person a brother and it was never a derogatory slur.

The word “Vai” took an ugly turn after India's independence from the British. Mizos, unlike the Nagas and a few other North Eastern ethnic groups, decided to remain a part of India when the British said they were leaving. You should know that what is now Mizoram, a land once governed by various warring Mizo clan chiefs, and most of the other North Eastern states were never once a part of any Muslim dynasty or Hindu ruler that ruled over what is now India before the British took over the entire area.

But soon after India's Independence Day, Mizoram (which was known as the Lushai Hills district back then) experienced a terrible famine in 1958 due to the flowering of bamboos (known as mautam in Mizo, which means “Bamboo death”). The flowering of bamboos led to a boom in rat population, that in turn ate up all the food stock of the people.

Hundreds of Mizos died, but all pleas sent to the Indian Government were ignored. Finally, Pu Laldenga formed the MNFF (Mizo National Famine Front) where every Mizo took it to task to help a fellow Mizo member, sending food, no matter how scarce, to those who needed it more. After many more casualties, the famine finally passed. That was when many Mizos said enough was enough, that there was no point in being a part of a country that didn’t care about its people, and the MNFF became the MNF (Mizo National Front), demanding a sovereign Mizo country.

The Indian army moved in, and life became difficult for those caught in between. Then came “Operation Jericho” in 1966, when the MNA (Mizo National Army), the armed wing of the MNF, overran various government institutions in one swift and well coordinated attack across different cities, beating back the Indian army and executing officers and other Mizos suspected of being informers to the Indian army. That was when Indira Gandhi, the then Prime Minister of India, ordered the Air Force bombing. On March 5th and 6th, 1966, Hunter and Toofani jetfighters deployed from Tezpur IAF base continuously bombed various cities, indiscriminately killing anyone and reducing many villages and towns to ashes.

Till now, the Indian Government has denied bombing its own soil that resulted in the loss of many innocent lives, including many civilians who actually didn’t support the MNF’s aspiration of a sovereign nation. The MNF was pushed back to the forests and more Indian soldiers were deployed in the area. From the 764 villages governed by various clans and chiefs, the army demolished 516 and converted it into 110 PPV (Protected and Progressive Villages) described as "something like the concentration camps of Auschwitz, minus the gas chambers" by researchers. (Air attacks in Mizoram, 1966 - our dirty, little secret)

There were many allegations of Mizo women being raped daily by the army officers, as most of the Mizo men were in the forests engaged in guerrilla warfare with the army. There was the dreaded "black diary" every Mizo women feared, where top army officers would write down the names of village damsels, and such women had to report to the officer's quarter in the night to spend the night with him. That happened in rotation and it only provoked more youth to join the rebel cause.

Finally, through many meetings with Indian Government representatives, conditions started becoming more and more peaceful from 1972 onwards. The Mizo Peace accord was finally signed between the MNF and Government of India in 1986, bringing in permanent peace and making Mizoram the most peaceful state in North East India till today.

Why did I just take you through a brief history of Mizoram?

Because to many Mizos, especially those who had experienced the insurgency and atrocities committed by the Indian army first hand, even though there’s peace now, there is still that feeling of bitterness lingering in the air. To such people, all “Vais” are still the evil perpetrator. But this trend of generalizing all Vais into one bucket is not as common as I used to remember when I was a kid.

However, if you’re a non-Mizo and you walk on the streets of Mizoram today, you may still encounter an unfortunate incident of a few miscreants (usually inebriated ones) menacingly passing comments at you like, “Vai chhia” (disgusting outsider) etc at you. This of course happens extremely rarely today, and I know so many non-Mizo tourists who had visited Mizoram and not experienced anything like this. But I’m just giving you a heads-up in case you do visit Mizoram in the future, it’s a beautiful place there. A large majority of us aren’t like that today.

One reason why such animosity still exists even today is because of our insecurity. Mizos are threatened by Vais, the outsiders, especially since many of us were brought up with stories of what the army did to our women. And sometimes, even today, in order to discipline a spoilt child, a mother may say stuff like “Behave yourself, don’t make such loud noises, or else a Vai will come and kidnap you.” This works in favour of the mother, because the child is now quiet, scared of the so called Vai. However, this also psychologically affects him/her as that person grows up, making it hard for him or her to trust a non-Mizo. I really feel such disciplinary tactics should be stopped.

Another reason for our insecurity is because of the difference in advancement between our Mizo society and the broader Indian society (in general). For us Mizos, it’s been just around 100 years since the Welsh missionaries came to our land and converted all of us to Christianity. We were animists before that, worshipping the sun, forests, animals and spirits. Along with Christianity, they educated us, teaching us how to read and write, and giving us our own written script.

Compare that to the rich cultural heritage of various Hindu and Muslim empires that ruled over the rest of India before the British came. We know we’re no match when it comes to business or manufacturing or even agriculture, but we gave it our best shot and today we’re the second highest literate state in India. But we still have miles to go if we want to compete with other Indians, so there is always that tinge of insecurity within us because of our “late start”.

Other than that, the situation today has vastly improved. Hindi shows like Kasauti were a huge rave in Mizoram a few years ago. Hindi movies are also quite popular for a population whose mother tongue is not Hindi, and photos of various Bollywood actors can be found in many shops and houses. Songs like “Papa kehte hain” and “Pehla nasha” are iconic and when a group of Mizos sit together with a guitar (we LOVE to sing), those two songs are usually sung. Long before the arrival of Star TV network, we tried our best not to miss shows like “Chitrahaar”, just like the rest of India.

Sometimes, Mizos coming to this side of the Country for the first time find it funny how most Indians immediately get up from their seats once the plane lands, even though nobody can get out of the plane yet. In our Mizo society, you will not find us fighting with each other to get in line etc. Even when it comes to basics, like waiting for LPG gas, people politely form a queue. Here is one such picture I took recently.

In fact, whenever we fly home to Mizoram (or from Mizoram), we call that moment the plane comes to a halt after landing as “Vai thawh hun”, when all non-Mizos immediately spring out from their seats grabbing their bags and knocking over each other in spite of the flight attendant pleading them to remain seated. Every Mizo sitting in the plane just grins at the circus show.

Not to sound racist, but many Mizos are also sceptical of other Indians, finding it hard to trust strangers. This probably stems from the fact that in Mizoram, everybody trusts each other. We actually have unmanned shops in Mizoram. There are many vendor-less road-side stalls, where vegetables, fruits and other goods are displayed for sale, with their prices written next to them. All you have to do is pick up what you want, put the money in a box and leave. You can even take change back from the box yourself. And the owner comes to the stall at the end of the day to collect the money and he never sees a loss.

I’m not saying other Indians are less untrustworthy than Mizos just because you won’t find such vendor-less shops this side of the country. The reason why we trust ourselves so blindly is because we’re a homogenous group with a very small population of just 1 million (second least populated state in India). I’m sure as we grow and become less close-knitted and more apart from each other, more and more antisocial elements will creep into our society as well. But as of now, yeah, when I am in the midst of other Indians, like travelling alone on a train with strangers, I will take my bag with me when I go to the loo (just like how you would do it too). Likewise, when I leave my apartment here in Mumbai, I always lock it up (which again I'm sure you do too), whereas in Mizoram, many of us don't, and some of us even sleep with our doors unlocked. Below is a photo of an entire locality feasting together, displaying our bonhomie.

When it comes to food, most Mizos travelling outside Mizoram for the first time find it very difficult to adjust to the Indian cuisine here. In Mizoram, we eat three times a day – Breakfast consists of rice, dal, boiled vegetables and meat, so yes, it is quite heavy compared to the breakfast we eat in the rest of India like dosas, puri bhajis, sandwiches, pohas, cereals etc. “Lunch” in Mizoram consists of just a tea break with light snacks like one plate/piece of momos, chow, paratha, alu chop etc. Dinner on the other hand, tends to be heavy again, which consists of the usual rice and other accompanying dishes. It takes time for a Mizo to get used to such a different routine.

Even when it comes to the type of food served, rice is a staple diet in Mizoram, and many Mizos are not used to breads like roti, chapattis, naans etc. I know many Mizos who cannot consider a meal to be a meal if there is no rice! True fact. And we love our meat. Pork, beef and chicken are some of our favourite meats, and they are usually boiled with veggies together. We also love spicy food, but by spice, I’m talking about “chilly” spice. Most spicy Indian dishes are spicy because of the masalas. We Mizos on the other hand, use very little masalas in our dishes, and many Mizos cannot stand the smell of oily masala-rich curry being prepared.

But it is something one can get used to and I know many Mizos, especially students, who ended up loving the food served in this part of the country. I for one, love the diversity of cuisines and am a foodie myself, actively taking part in many “food lovers club” initiatives in Mumbai.

When it comes to Loyalty for India, yes, the patriotic sentiment of the Mizos is strong today, in spite of some people still holding grudges as mentioned earlier. There are many Mizos serving in the Indian armed forces. Two of my cousins are officers in the Air Force, another in the Army, and here in Mumbai, I have many close Mizo friends currently serving in the Indian Navy. But what saddens me sometimes is the fact that many Indians are not aware of the number of people from the North East serving in the armed forces.

For example, during the recent Chinese incursion in Arunachal Pradesh, a cell phone video recorded by a Mizo soldier whose contingent was posted there, was obtained by TOI. In the video, you could see Mizo Indian soldiers grabbing the Chinese soldiers and telling his Mizo mates not to let any of them through. There were a lot of scuffles and wrestles and Mizos shouting out instructions. But the TOI comments (Timeline Photos - The Times of India | Facebook) were full of racial hate, abusing even the Mizo Indian soldiers, saying stuff like, “shoot all these chinky dogs”, “shut up you ching chang chong”, etc. Later on, TOI did delete some of the comments after we complained, but that really hurt many of us, especially friends and family of those Mizo soldiers posted at our borders who were ready to die protecting all of us.

So, yeah, as “anonymous” commented on this very question – “Is it true that people of Mizoram don't consider themselves to be Indian?”, I would like to reply and rephrase that as “No actually, the people of Mizoram do consider ourselves to be Indians. It is the Indians who don’t consider us to be Indians.”

I hope you consider this reply satisfactory. Like I said in the beginning, I had to generalize here and there in order to avoid making this reply any longer than it already is. Please feel free to disagree to my views, whether from a Mizo or a non-Mizo’s point of view.
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Very articulate and soulful. The stories about name calling make you feel ashamed. Partly a fault of the education system, too. I've encountered people from the North East, whether in forums or in person. Some of them are just lovely human beings, and the others are simply good people. Only the militants are obnoxious idiots, and they have to be isolated as best as possible, and eradicated.
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@Varoon

The entire hill tribes(naga, chin etc) are chaotic and anarchical. My statement is not politically correct but it is true. These hill tribes are "indians out of compulsion" and not out of choice. Many of these tribes have serious identity issues and border around christian fundamentalism. It's a bit difficult for me to put it out so bluntly but since this is BR, I don't expect an outrage on the explicitness of the sentences.

The sad reality is that if new delhi doesn't seal them in their own respective regions, they're going to cause un-normalcy in other regions.

The hill tribes of north-east are akin to the tribes of NWFP of pakistan.

Replace hill tribes of NE with the pashtuns of NWFP
Replace NE with NWFP
Replace protestant christianity with suni islam
Replace the tribal culture of NE with pashtunwali

That is the shortest and closest summarisation of the NE you'll ever get to read

Kima is a bit popular within a section of the blogging community. His opinions are always crafty.
http://mizohican.blogspot.in/
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Very nice article by the Mizo gentleman. Rest of India has a long way to go to integrate the NE.
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Supratik wrote:Very nice article by the Mizo gentleman.
He lives in mumbai(the guy with the receded hairline on the right). Last year, someone called him/his friends a "nepali". The incident actually reached the mumbai police.

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The idiot turns every little event from the street into a discrimination controversy
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nvishal wrote: The idiot turns every little event from the street into a discrimination controversy
The discrimination is real and has been reported by several NEterners from different regions.
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Supratik wrote:The discrimination is real and has been reported by several NEterners from different regions.
Some of it, yes
But most of it is plain propaganda of the victimhood kind

In recent years, a dozen or so fronts(self styled civilian societies) have mushroomed across metros that take any isolated incident with a mongoloid victim and amplify it 20x using a set of themes including racism, human rights, democratic rights etc with letters to police commissioners, to manmohan singh, pranab mukherjee, public rallys and what not.

In the last 3-5 years there have been about 5 or so unsolved death cases of north-east individuals in indian metros. What the NE front orgs have done is that they've taken these 5 or so deaths and created a successful PR campaign projecting india as a racially dangerous place for mongoloids.

Here's some food for thought: The nepali mongoloids have been coming and settling in india since time-immemorial but they've never sang the discrimination tunes(india vs nepal) akin to the mongoloid boys from the NE, have they? In fact, you won't find any mongoloid students from the south-east asia part of the world making these "discrimination" claims. You won't even find the sikkimise, ladhakis or arunachalis making these claims. Most of these claims come from the tribal communities originating from the states of manipur, nagaland, mizoram and meghalaya - the MAIN insurgency hit zones. *hint*

The NE civilian societies mimic the political strategies of ambedkarvadis. In the last few decades, large pockets of population in NE have been raised around familiar policies like land and job reservations, restriction of migration from mainland india, autonomy etc. Their sense of democratic rights(read "entitlements") are extra-ordinary compared to citizens from non-tribal landscapes.
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