Pakistani Role in Global Terrorism

arun · Post by **arun** » 19 Oct 2014 06:57

Shia Mohammadden majority Islamic Republic of Iran says that Sunni Mohammadden Terrorists from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan are sneaking into Iran to commit acts of terrorism joining other of Pakistan’s neighbor who frequently say the same thing, namely India and Afghanistan and the Peoples Republic of China that on occasion says the same thing.

Rather than title itself “Gateway to central Asia” and “Energy Corridor”, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan should retitle herself “Gateway for Terrorists” and “Terrorist Corridor”:

Iran says militants infiltrating from Pakistan

Meanwhile the Islamic Republic of Pakistan summons the Ambassador of fellow Islamic Republic Iran and lodges a diplomatic protest for Iran’s reaction to Pakistani provocations of permitting Sunni Mohammadden Terrorist sneak across the Pakistani border to sow havoc in Iran.

Next presumably is the Islamic Republic of Pakistan school-boyishly whinging to the UN Secretary General:

Firing by border guards: Iranian envoy summoned, protest lodged

arun · Post by **arun** » 04 Nov 2014 07:24

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FWIW. Unnamed GOI source says India was real target of Wagah suicide bomber and that the mayhem caused in Pakistan was because of the accidental premature detonation of the bomb. Further says this was “Official” “State Sponsored” act by a section of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s establishment:

"That the attack occurred in such a high security zone points out that it could have been a fallout of schisms within the Pakistani apparatus. This section of the Pak establishment wanted to create further mistrust and rift between Delhi and Islamabad. It appears the target of the bomber was India with collateral damages across the border, but he exploded due to some miscalculation," a government source said.

From Economic Times:

Wagah Border attacker's target was India but exploded in Pakistan due to miscalculation

arun · Post by **arun** » 04 Nov 2014 17:26

X Posted from the STFUP thread.

pankajs wrote:Nothing new .. just putting it here

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-pa ... on-2031945
Pakistan using militants as proxies to counter Indian army, says Pentagon

In a blunt assessment of terrorist safe havens in Pakistan, the Pentagon has told the US Congress that the country is using militant groups as proxies to counter the superior Indian military.

"Afghan-and Indian-focused militants continue to operate from Pakistan territory to the detriment of Afghan and regional stability. Pakistan uses these proxy forces to hedge against the loss of influence in Afghanistan and to counter India's superior military," the Pentagon told the Congress in its latest six-monthly report on the current situation in Afghanistan.

"These relationships run counter to Pakistan's public commitment to support Afghan-led reconciliation. Such groups continue to act as the primary irritant in Afghan-Pakistan bilateral relations," the Pentagon said in the report running into more than 100 pages.

Referring to the attack on the Indian Consulate in Herat, the Pentagon said this was done just ahead of the swearing-in ceremony of Narendra Modi as the Prime Minister of India.

That’s from page 95 of a US Department of Defence aka DoD aka Pentagon report dating to October 2014 titled “Progress Toward Security And stability In Afghanistan”.

As you said, nothing new for India as the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s sponsorship of Mohammadden Terrorists has been seen in various forms over the decades starting from marauding “Tribesmen” running amok in J&K in 1947-48:

The quote is:

“Afghan- and Indian-focused militants continue to operate from Pakistan territory to the detriment of Afghan and regional stability. Pakistan uses these proxy forces to hedge against the loss of influence in Afghanistan and to counter India’s superior military. These relationships run counter to Pakistan’s public commitment to support Afghan-led reconciliation. Such groups continue to act as the primary irritant in Afghan-Pakistan bilateral relations.

Pakistan’s government has sought to increase engagement with Afghanistan. However, suspicion has surrounded the relationship between Kabul and Islamabad, inhibiting bilateral cooperation on border security protocols. It is possible that the new Afghan President, Dr. Ghani, will seek to change this dynamic, which Pakistan is likely to welcome. Although stability in Afghanistan is in the interest of Pakistan, Pakistan also seeks sufficient Pashtun representation in the Afghan government to prevent Pashtun discontent along the Afghan-Pakistan border and limit India’s influence.”

Pentagon report is available here:

Progress Toward Security And stability In Afghanistan

Meanwhile our Ministry of External Affairs had this to say:

"If international community is now acknowledging the fact that terrorism derives support from Pak, its something that we welcome,"

MEA welcomes Pentagon report that acknowledges Pak involvement in global terrorism

arun · Post by **arun** » 18 Nov 2014 20:30

X Posted from the STFUP thread.

James B wrote:Militants not dangerous to Pakistan should not be targeted: Sartaj Aziz

Adviser to the Prime Minister on National Security and Foreign Affairs, Sartaj Aziz on Monday said that Pakistan should not target militants who do not threaten the country’s security.

He further said that the Afghan Taliban are Afghanistan’s problem and Haqqani Network is a part of it.

“It’s the job of the Afghan government to negotiate with them...We can try to convince them, however things are not the same as they were in the nineties,” Aziz said.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1145135/milita ... ted-sartaj

The Foreign Office of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan claims that their National Security Adviser Sartaj Aziz’s comment to BBC Urdu of “Why should America’s enemies unnecessarily become our enemies”, “When the United States attacked Afghanistan, all those that were trained and armed were pushed towards us” and “Why must we make enemies out of them all?”; was made in a “historical context” :

Sartaj Aziz statement on militant groups taken out of context: FO

arun · Post by **arun** » 18 Nov 2014 20:33

Having sown the wind of Mohammadden Terrorism in order to target India and others, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan reaps the whirlwind of Mohammadden Terrorism.:

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Brad Goodman wrote:Congrats pakis have come third

Pakistan ranks third on Global Terrorism Index list

Excerpt dealing with the Islamic Republic of Pakistan from the cited report:

PAKISTAN
GTI RANK: 3
GTI SCORE: 9.37/10
1,933 INCIDENTS
DEAD 2,345
INJURED 5,035

Terrorism in Pakistan is strongly influenced by its proximity to Afghanistan with most attacks occurring near the border involving the Taliban. Like in Afghanistan, terrorism increased significantly in Pakistan in 2013, with a 37 per cent increase in deaths and 28 per cent increase in injuries since 2012. Nearly half of all attacks had no groups that have claimed responsibility. The deadliest group in Pakistan in 2013, responsible for almost a quarter of all deaths and 49 per cent of all claimed attacks, is Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), the Pakistani Taliban. Terrorism in Pakistan has a diverse array of actors. In 2013 there were 23 different terrorist groups, down from 29 groups in 2012. However, 11 groups account for the majority of the 270 claimed attacks. While many of these groups are Islamist there are also other organisations such as separatist movements for Baloch, the Bettani tribe and Sindhi people.

Over 60 per cent of fatalities were from bombings and explosions and around 26 per cent from firearms. A quarter of targets and deaths were against private citizens, with police accounting for 20 per cent of targets and deaths. The deadliest attacks were against religious figures and institutions which, on average, killed over five people and injured over 11 per attack. This includes the killing of 87 people attending All Saints Church in Peshawar city from two suicide bombs by a sub-group of the Pakistani Taliban. The Pakistani Taliban also, like the Taliban in Afghanistan, is opposed to the western education and the education of girls and has targeted schools and advocates of equal education. This issue gained worldwide recognition in October 2012 when a 15 year old school girl and advocate of female education, Malala Yousafzai, was shot by gunmen from the Pakistani Taliban on a school bus in the northwest. In 2014 Malala Yousafzai, along with the Indian activist Kailash Satyarthi campaigning against forced childhood labour, were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Despite the international attention brought to the issue, violence continues and in 2013 there were over 100 attacks on educational institutions, with a total of 150 casualties. Suicide bombings were used by the Pakistani Taliban and three other groups, all of which have some affiliation with the Pakistani Taliban. In 2013 there were 71 suicide attacks responsible for around 2,740 casualties. More than 500 cities in Pakistan had at least one terrorist incident in 2013, with two or more incidents occurring in 180 cities. Of all attacks 16 per cent occurred in the largest city of Karachi in the south. However, the majority of attacks occurred in the north closer to the border with Afghanistan. This includes cities such as Peshawar, Quetta and Jamrud, which combined, had more attacks than Karachi. The city of Parachinar in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, the closest point in Pakistan to Kabul in Afghanistan, has among the highest rates of deaths per incident in Pakistan with 87 people killed from seven incidents.

arun · Post by **arun** » 22 Nov 2014 19:14

Our Home Minister, Rajnath Singh, is very explicit and blunt about the role of State Actors of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in fomenting Mohammadden Terrorism in India.

"Terrorism in India is fully Pakistan sponsored. Pakistan says non state actors are involved. But is ISI non-state actor. ISI is aiding terrorism,"

Regards the so called “trial” in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan of Mohammadden Terrorists involved in the 2008 Mumbai attack, says the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is trying to scuttle the judicial process:

"Pakistan is not helping in the judicial process. In fact it is trying to scuttle it,"

Our Home Minister pointed out that Mohammadden Terrorist Osama Bin Laden could not have lived in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan without support of the Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Military via the notorious Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate the ISID aka ISI:

Mr Singh said slain al Qaeda chief Osama Bin Laden was in Pakistan for a long time and he could not have stayed there without ISI's help.

Lots of other tit bits available:

Pakistan Sponsoring Terrorism, Dawood is in Afghan Border: Rajnath Singh

arun · Post by **arun** » 23 Nov 2014 09:32

^^^ Video of NDTV telecast of our Home Minister Rajnath Singh’s speech, in Hindi, at the Hindustan Times Leadership Summit 2014. See starting 3:45 for comments on the direct role of “State Actors” of the Islamic Republic Of Pakistan in supporting terrorism and terrorists targeting India:

'Want to ask Pakistan - is ISI a non-state actor?': Home Minister Rajnath Singh

arun · Post by **arun** » 27 Nov 2014 15:05

Uniformed Mohammadden Terrorists of the “State Actor” Security forces of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan provide covering mortar fire in order to allow Ununiformed Mohammadden Terrorists of the “Non State” variety to infiltrate into India from the Islamic Republic:

Gunfight in Jammu as militants enter India from Pakistan

The officer said a gun battle is on between the troopers and the militants

IANS | Jammu
November 27, 2014 Last Updated at 11:18 IST

A gunfight broke out Thursday when separatist guerrillas who sneaked into India from Pakistan were accosted by security forces at the border in Jammu and Kashmir, police said.

Police sources told IANS that a group of three to four militants infiltrated into the Indian side of the international border at Arnia in RS Pura area of Jammu district.

Sources added the militants entered an abandoned army bunker.

"The infiltration attempt was supported by Pakistan Rangers who fired mortar shells at BSF (Border Security Force) positions in Arnia today (Thursday) morning so that the militants could sneak in," a senior police officer said here.

The officer said a gun battle is on between the troopers and the militants.

IANS via Business Standard

arun · Post by **arun** » 06 Dec 2014 09:47

No “Canadian Visa” for Pakistani webmaster of Mohammadden Terrorist group Sipah-E-Sahaba (SSP) which has now renamed itself as Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ). SSP / AWSJ is a group originating in Punjab Province of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and is principally made up of adherents of Mohammaddenism’s Sunni Sectarian and Deobandi sub-sect. SSP / AWSJ specialises in the killing of fellow Mohammaddens of the Shia Sect:

Alleged Pakistani terrorist facing deportation is danger to Canadians, immigration officials say

arun · Post by **arun** » 06 Dec 2014 11:40

X Posted from the “Pakistani Role In Global Terrorism Thread”.

Mohammadden Terrorist attack on Uri linked to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

Senior {Indian} Army officer discloses that food packets recovered from dead Ununiformed Jihadi’s who attacked Uri are same as those used by the Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

The Army on Saturday said the food packets recovered from the six slain militants, involved in the daring attack on the Uri camp, bore marks of the Pakistani establishment.

“The food packets, which were recovered from the encounter site, are generally used by Pakistan Army,” a senior Army officer said.

PTI via Hindu:

Food packets with Pakistan markings found in Uri camp

arun · Post by **arun** » 06 Dec 2014 11:45

X Posted from the STFUP thread links to images of the food packets / MRE recovered from dead Mohammadden Terrorists who attacked Uri base:

sadhana wrote:Link for some of the MRE photos:

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... -still-on/

The twitter feed of an Indian Express reporter has pics too:

https://twitter.com/manaman_chhina/stat ... 7924292608

https://twitter.com/manaman_chhina/stat ... 6461700096

arun · Post by **arun** » 07 Dec 2014 14:38

X Posted from the STFUP thread.

A_Gupta wrote:http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... shows-gps/

The six Lashkar-e-Taiba jihadists who staged Friday’s attack on an Indian military position near Uri left the small town of Chham, across the Line of Control (LoC) in Pakistan-administered Kashmir, hiking west for almost 24 hours, across dense high-altitude forest, before staging their attack at dawn, military sources have told The Sunday Express. The route, sources said, was revealed by digital records from the global positioning sets carried by the terrorists.

Flown to New Delhi early on Saturday, the digital positioning data shows the Lashkar assault team’s route took them from Chham to the LoC, and then to near Kamalkote village — the site of a cross-LOC artillery exchange which claimed the life of teenager Gulshan Bano last month.

The group, sources said, appeared to have stopped for a meal before crossing the Jhelum on foot, at about 2.30 am on Friday.
- See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... nXfCJ.dpuf

More links of the 12 Mohammadden terrorists who got exterminated while carrying out attacks at Uri, Soura and Arnia over the last eight days, to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan emerge.

Hindustan Times also reports entries recovered from GPS equipment carried by Mohammadden Terrorists who attacked Uri show they crossed over the LoC from the part of Jammu & Kashmir illegally occupied by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Thus

The GPS units of the terrorists in Arnia, which is 3km from the International Border (IB), showed Sialkot as their last known position on November 24.

Those of the Uri attackers showed they’d been in Chham, a known militant launching pad across the LoC, on December 3 and had crossed over at least one day before the attack, investigators said.

Besides GPS enteries, ready to eat meal packets were same as those used by the Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Military of the Islamic republic of Pakistan” while arms and ammunition carried markings of the Pakistan’s Government owned ordnance factory:

According to the investigators, the Uri gunmen carried ready-to-eat meal packets (pav bhaji, chicken achari, dry fruits, etc) regularly used by the Pakistan army, and packets of made-in-Pakistan ‘Super Biscuits’ and chocolates. They had 37 grenades with markings of an ordnance factory in Rawalpindi’s Wah Cantonment and 1,500 rounds of ammunition.

From Hindustan Times:

Grenades, food items, GPS entries: Terror came from across LoC

More from Times of India which reports that Pakistani identity cards and Pakistani origin medicines recovered from slain Mohammadden Terrorists:

J&K terror attack: Slain terrorists carried medicines, eatables from Pakistan

arun · Post by **arun** » 07 Dec 2014 21:10

Kaafirs seem to be perfecting the art of Taqiyyah so much so that Momins originating in the Land of the Pure are being taken in.

Mother of Mohammadden Terrorist who traces his origin to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and who wandered off to Syria to do a spot of Mohammadden Terrorist Tourism or in his words “best deed in Allahs eyes”, complains that she shopped her son only because she believed that the UK Police’s Taqiyyah that the son would get a 2 year rather than 12 year sentence he was given:

Police betrayed me, says mother of British jihadist jailed for 12 years after she turned him in

-Mother of British jihadist Yusuf Sarwar says she was betrayed by the police
-Majida Sarwar, from Birmingham, tipped off police when son went to Syria
-22-year-old travelled to war zone with friend Mohammed Nahin Ahmed
- They were arrested eight months later at Heathrow and jailed for 12 years
-A judge praised mother's 'bravery' for telling officers son went 'to do jihad'
-But Ms Sarwar says she was told he could expect a far shorter sentence
-She says other mothers of jihadists will be put off coming forward in future

By Martin Robinson and Ollie Gillman for Mail Online

Published: 09:31 GMT, 7 December 2014 | Updated: 15:25 GMT, 7 December 2014

The mother of a British jihadist who was jailed for 12 years for going to Syria to join a group linked to Al-Qaeda says she was betrayed by the police and courts over her son's long prison sentence.

Yusuf Sarwar, a student from Birmingham, left a note telling his mother he had gone to Syria fight against 'Allah's enemies' in May last year.

His mother Majida Sarwar showed the note to the police, and her son, who travelled to the war zone to join Islamic extremists with former postal worker Mohammed Ahmed, was arrested on his return this January.

At her son's court case, a judge praised 'brave' Ms Sarwar for telling the authorities about his plans, but now she says she was betrayed by the legal system.

Speaking to the Observer, Ms Sarwar said: 'This is not justice. They said I was doing the right thing, that when my son came back they would try to help, but this terrible sentence – all they have done was to set me against my son.

'The police say "mothers come forward", you can trust us, we will help. But now they will see what happened to my son. What kind of person would go to the police if they think their son will get 12 years in prison? Nobody wants to do that. I did not want that.

'My husband just sits silently most of the time, crying a lot.'

The family were told that the 22-year-old, whose grandfather served with the British Army, might expect a two-year sentence, they said. ………………………….

Ahmed, who was born in Bangladesh, moved to Britain as a child, while Sarwar, who is of Pakistani descent, was born in Britain. ………………………

Read It All:

Police betrayed me, says mother of British jihadist jailed for 12 years after she turned him in

arun · Post by **arun** » 23 Dec 2014 19:41

X Posted from the STFUP thread.

C Christine Fair writing in War On The Rocks in an article titled “After Peshawar, Expect Business as Usual in Pakistan”:

Clicky

She missed the release of Sunni Mohammadden sectarian terrorist Malik Ishaq.

arun · Post by **arun** » 24 Dec 2014 07:20

Ishaan Tharoor writing in an Op-Ed in the Washington Post titled “Can Pakistan finally give up the ‘good Taliban’?”

Can Pakistan finally give up the ‘good Taliban’?

Speaking of the Good Taliban and Bad Taliban policy of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Punjabi Military Dominated “Deep State”, an interesting cartoon on the subject:

arun · Post by **arun** » 24 Dec 2014 09:45

^^^ Continuing on the Good Taliban and Bad Taliban policy of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Punjabi Military Dominated “Deep State”, one more interesting cartoon on the subject by cartoonist Manoj Kureel:

member_28840 · Post by **member_28840** » 24 Dec 2014 22:00

Heh, them cartoons...funny but true.

member_28840 · Post by **member_28840** » 24 Dec 2014 22:48

arun wrote:X Posted from the STFUP thread.

C Christine Fair writing in War On The Rocks in an article titled “After Peshawar, Expect Business as Usual in Pakistan”:

Clicky

She missed the release of Sunni Mohammadden sectarian terrorist Malik Ishaq.

Well worth reading. Lol'd at the mention of USA's lack of "Scrotal Fortitude".

After Peshawar, Expect Business as Usual in Pakistan
C. Christine Fair
December 22, 2014 · in Analysis

Last week, the Tehreek-e-Taliban-e-Pakistan (TTP or “Pakistani Taliban”) outraged the world when it attacked an Army Public School in Peshawar. The attackers sprayed bullets frenetically, killing 145 persons among whom 132 were children. Ostensibly, this slaughter was a retaliation for the Pakistan army’s ongoing security operations in North Waziristan against those elements of the Pakistani Taliban who could not be persuaded to leave Pakistan to either fight Americans and their allies in Afghanistan or kill Indians in and beyond Kashmir. Amidst the bloodshed, Pakistan and international observers alike hope that such a watershed event will jolt Pakistan out of its somnolence and take its terrorist problems seriously. However, as with most things in Pakistan, such optimists should brace for disappointment.

Being a Student is an Occupational Hazard

Pakistan is the most dangerous place to be a student. Between 2009 and 2012, there were more than 838 attacks on schools in Pakistan. Terrorists have destroyed hundreds of schools, murdered teachers and academics, and even recruited children from public schools and madrassahs (religious seminaries) for suicide attacks. But this attack was different. First, although the school had sections for male and female students studying in the fifth through twelfth grades, the terrorists focused their heinous efforts on the boys’ section.. Second, the death toll was unprecedented. Third, it was an army public school. The majority of the students were themselves the children of military personnel in the Peshawar area. Fourth, unlike generic attacks on schools intended to terrify by attacking prominent state institutions, the terrorists selected this school because they sought to target the sons of specific army officers. They had even prepared a hit list for the gruesome task. In an emailed statement, the Pakistani Taliban claimed that “more than 50 sons of important army officers were killed after being identified.” Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif described it as “the biggest human tragedy Pakistan may have ever seen.”

Business as Usual?

As the country mourned the loss of its children, Nawaz Sharif declared to the world that Pakistan would “continue the war against terrorism till the last terrorist is eliminated.” He assured global and domestic audiences alike that Pakistan would not differentiate between “good and bad Taliban.” In an effort to reassure his citizens that his government would deal with terrorists seriously, he even suspended the moratorium on the death penalty for terrorism-related cases. The moratorium had been in place since 2008. The spokesperson for Pakistan’s powerful military, Major-General Bajwa, bellowed, “For the military, there’ll be no discrimination among Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan, Haqqani network or any other militant group.” Pakistan’s army chief travelled to Afghanistan where he met President Ashraf Ghani. Both vowed that the two countries would fight terrorism together. Some observers, such as Peter Bergen, echoed Pakistani talking points and opined that this atrocity “may prove as pivotal to Pakistan’s national security policy as the 9/11 attacks were for the United States.”

Despite the upbeat assessments of such Panglossians, it is nearly certain that no matter how heinous this attack was, it will not motivate Pakistan to abandon its long-held reliance upon a flotilla of Islamist militant groups who operate with impunity in Afghanistan and India. After all, Pakistan has used Islamist militants as tools of foreign policy since 1947. With the acquisition of an existential nuclear deterrent as early as 1980, Pakistan became ever more bolder in its reliance upon these proxies. As Pakistan’s nuclear umbrella expanded, it became increasingly confident that India would not retaliate, nor would the United States muster the requisite scrotal fortitude to deal appropriately with this twinned menace of nuclear weapons and terrorism.

In fact, some optimists saw their hope for a new Pakistani policy on terrorism dashed even before all of the young victims were laid to rest. On December 18, two days after the attack, an Anti-Terrorism Court in Islamabad announced the bail of Lashkar-e-Taiba’s (LeT) notorious operations commander, Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, citing a lack of evidence against him.

The court ordered him to post a bond of 500,000 rupees (approximately $5,000) before he could be released. The move sparked outrage in India because Lakhvi was the mastermind behind the multi-day siege on India’s mega-port city of Mumbai in November 2008. In that operation, ten LeT gunmen operated in teams to assault numerous targets across the city. Before Indian forces at long last managed to put an end to the melee, the terrorists were able to kill 165 persons (including 28 foreigners) and injure another 293, the majority of whom were Indian. The release of Lakhvi could have potential importance for a revivified terror campaign in India. In September and October of this year, Pakistan’s army used shelling as a cover to insert record numbers of terrorists associated with LeT and another group, Jaish-e-Mohammad, into Indian-administered Kashmir.

Chagrined by the court’s decision on Lakhvi on the tails of the attack and worried that it would fuel further dubiety about Pakistan’s commitment to a “total war” on terror, the Sharif government moved to contain the damage. The government announced that he would be detained for another three months under the Maintenance of Public Order. In practice, it hardly matters whether he remains in jail or walks free. After all, Lakhvi’s tenure in jail was really more of a protective detention, as he continued to plan and execute operations with the support of his jailers. He had a luxury suite. He was free to meet with his cadres and others of his choosing. He enjoyed liberal conjugal visits and even fathered a child during his time as an inmate.

LeT is an important ally of the Pakistani deep state. Unlike other militant groups that fractured and gave way to the TTP, LeT has never attacked within Pakistan. It has remained a loyal proxy, restricting its operations to Afghanistan—where its operatives kill Americans, Indians, and Afghans, among others—and to India, in and beyond Kashmir. LeT remains loath to upset Pakistan’s military and intelligence agency, the ISI. After all, with their support, LeT enjoys unfettered latitude to recruit, fund raise, train, and plan operations from the safety of Pakistan.

LeT’s very existence in Pakistan and the unfettered active support it enjoys across the Pakistani state belies Pakistan’s assertion that it will not distinguish between good and bad terrorists. How can Pakistan expect the world to believe that it is no longer distinguishing between those useful killers who murder at the behest of the Pakistani state, like those of the LeT, and those it seeks to eliminate because they kill Pakistanis?

If Pakistan were seriously committed to extirpating Islamist militancy from its soil, it would have to not only eliminate the Pakistani Taliban, it would also have to dismantle and disable the LeT; the Afghan Taliban whose leadership resides in Pakistan’s Balochistan province and beyond and which enjoys extensive active state support; other so-called Kashmiri groups such as Jaish-e-Mohammad, which it has nurtured to kill Indians; as well as the Ahl-e-Sunnat-wal-Jamaat (ASWJ known formerly as Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and Sipah-e-Sahaba-e-Pakistan) which had killed thousands of religious minorities in Pakistan.

Then, There’s The Tiresome “Blame Game”

It is true that Pakistanis are in mourning for this tragic and senseless loss in Peshawar. However, outrage does not mean that Pakistanis blame the culpable parties. LeT’s leader, Hafiz Saeed, spoke to crowds massed in Lahore in his Punjabi-influenced Urdu to denounce the assailants: India. He was not alone in fingering India as the culprits. Former President Musharraf weighed in during a television interview:

Do you know who is Maulana Fazlullah? He is the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan commander. He is in Afghanistan. And I am reasonably sure that he was supported by former Karzai government and RAW [India’s external intelligence agency] to carry out terror attacks in Pakistan.

Similarly, during a popular television program, “infotainment celebrity,” Dr. Amir Liaquat explained to his rapt audience that the abominable crime was an Indian plot staged within Afghan territory. Unfortunately, such buffoonery is all too common. Indeed, many Pakistanis tend to believe that India—or sometimes even Israel or the United States—is behind the various terror attacks and even floods in Pakistan.

How can Pakistan’s leaders credibly assert to their citizens and to the world that they take this menace seriously when they fail to take responsibility for the existence of terrorists and when they assiduously seek to externalize blame for their woes? Why would anyone believe that Pakistan’s military is discontinuing a long-held policy of distinguishing between “good militants” who operate on its behalf in Afghanistan and India and those “bad militants” who kill Pakistanis? The world should believe Pakistan has turned over a new leaf only if and when Pakistan forthrightly acknowledges that these incidents are due to blowback rather than some mysterious foreign hand, and when it first stops actively supporting the murderous menagerie it has nurtured and then works to permanently dismantle them.

No doubt, Pakistan will leverage these deaths to argue for continued American and international support for its selective war on terrorism. No doubt, Americans and their allies will continue writing checks, even if the checks grow smaller over time. However, there should be no doubt that many tens of thousands of Pakistanis are going to die before the Pakistan army abandons jihad as a tool of foreign policy.

Washington must be clear that as long as it pursues policies of appeasement and inducements, it is subsidizing the problems rather than ameliorating them.

arun · Post by **arun** » 25 Dec 2014 06:06

Bloomsberg Businessweek on gangster turned pious Mohammadden Terrorist, Dawood Ibrahim, who is being sheltered in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan by “State Actors” of that country:

Pakistan’s Secret Guest: Why Neighbors Doubt Terrorism Fight

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 25 Dec 2014 18:13

New issue of jihadist magazine produced by al-Qaeda in Yemen suggests attacks on U.S

The issue is the 13th since Inspire was first published online in 2010. Its founder, Samir Zafar Khan, was born in Saudi Arabia to Pakistani parents but grew up in New York state.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 25 Dec 2014 19:07

Gerard wrote:
. . . , Samir Zafar Khan, was born in Saudi Arabia to Pakistani parents but grew up in New York state.

No wonder, then.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 25 Dec 2014 21:40

^^^

Per published news items:
He grew up ( W.T. Clarke High School, Westbury) in Long Island, and after High School moved in 2003 (with his parents) to Charlotte, North Carolina. (He came to the attention to FBI because he was keeping in touch with two known jhihadi's)

He came to notice to lot of his school students/teachers because of his Jhihad type views (eg writing essays as "I am proud to be a traitor to America"). In his (2003) school yearbook, he identified himself as a "Mujahid". His parents thus knew this well... they tried to help by enlisting some well known good patriotic US Muslims from "local community" to teach him good ways.. (guess it did not help much - or may even done more harm )

What is disgusting that the Muslim leaders in Long Island (including some Imam's and Mohammad Akhtar, then, president of the Islamic Association of Long Island, for example) takes no responsibility and has given statements in local papers as:

".Khan's actions should not be blamed on his faith.. yada yada Our community has always condemned this kind of extremism and, of course, the religion of Islam is the religion of peace, and some people who have misunderstood it have really hijacked our religion because Islam prohibits causing the kind of harm of terrorism."

arun · Post by **arun** » 03 Jan 2015 12:41

Two brothers, Sheheryar Alam Qazi, and Raees Alam Qazi , originating in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and charged by the FBI with conspiring to explode a weapon of mass destruction in the United States, go to trial in Florida in the US for indulging in the Islamic Republic’s national past time:

Accused Oakland Park Terrorist's Phone Conversations Can Be Used as Evidence, Feds Say

arun · Post by **arun** » 04 Jan 2015 11:47

X Posted from the STFUP thread.

Times of India reports boat sunk by the Indian Coast Guard off the coast of Porbander was in “frequent touch with Pakistan army and Maritime Security Agency of Pakistan through a "contact".” Situation more and more looking like an event orchestrated by State Actors in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to harm India:

“Electronic chatter shows that two Pakistani fishing boats, one of which sank after being intercepted by the Coast Guard in the Arabian sea in early hours of January 1, were in frequent touch with Pakistan army and Maritime Security Agency of Pakistan through a "contact".”

And for our domestic sceptics who are consciously or unconsciously providing a burqua / burka of plausible deniability to elements in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan indulging in an unlawful activity, be it terrorism or smuggling or both, let me point out, as has the Indian Coast Guard, that flight is deemed as suspicious by Law Enforcement authorities anywhere in the world and exercise of force to prevent flight is a legitimate use of force by enforcement authorities:

"It was rogue boat, which repeatedly ignored warnings to stop, switched off its lights and tried to speed away in an area where Pakistani fishing vessels do not usually come. It's easy to raise questions about the operation but can one imagine what would been the consequences if the boat had managed to evade the security net," said an official. ……………………………

"The Coast Guard regularly intercepts Pakistani fishing boats when they come into our waters without shots being fired or people being killed. This vessel, however, behaved very suspiciously. No fishing nets were down, neither were the people dressed like fishermen," said the official.

Wireless intercepts indicate ‘terror’ boats were in touch with Pakistani army

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 04 Jan 2015 14:36

Pak is incorrigible. It has no reason for its existence oither than hatred of India.,just like ancient Carthage's hatred of Rome. The terror attacks will happen again and again,this time in extra measure to how O'Bomber that he was wrong not to have combined a visit to Pak as well while visiting India for Republic Day. Therefore,creating as much mayhem in India through terrorism in the run-up to the visit is in Pak's interests.We must meet out a mil. response several times more .

niran · Post by **niran** » 06 Jan 2015 12:07

A Paki ISI agent and khalistan tiger

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 06 Jan 2015 15:04

niran ji, what a coincidence. NTRO talks of traffic between a boat which sunk in Arabian sea and Thailand. On 06th Jan there is a report of a terrorist (a fugitive since 1995) being captured in Thailand.

Quoting part of the news from the link posted by you:

Acting on information provided by Indian officials, police and soldiers raided a house on Soi Mabyailia in tambon Nong Phreu in Bang Lamung district around 7.30pm Monday, Thai media reported today.

Officers also arrested Pakistani national Ali Alat, 48, the owner of the house. The Indian newspaper identified Alat as "Khalat Bari" and quoted Indian government sources as saying the Pakistani was sheltering the Khalistan Tiger Force chief at the behest of Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence.

It seems they were trying to catch him for some time. He gave them them a slip earlier.

arun · Post by **arun** » 06 Jan 2015 20:15

niran wrote:A Paki ISI agent and khalistan tiger

Was going to X Post that from the "ISI - History and Discussions" thread but see you have done so.

So a Khalistani terrorist holding a Pakistani passport arrested in Pattaya, Thailand at the home of a Pakistani National believed to be an agent of the terrorist fomenting intelligence arm of the Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate aka ISI aka ISID.

The Khalistani Terrorist in question being one Jagtar Singh alias Tara Singh alias Gurmeet Singh who escaped from Indian custody while serving time for the killing of Punjab CM Beant Singh and fled to the Islamic Republic for shelter:

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 07 Jan 2015 03:59

If the operations were coordinated, it sounds like the boat was pursued and became shaheed only when their co-boat reached Thailand. Until then it was just shadowed. I don't understand why the two boats left at the same time (or did they?) if one had to go all the way to Thailand and the other just to Porbandar.

vina · Post by **vina** » 07 Jan 2015 04:44

it sounds like the boat was pursued and became shaheed

As long as they are all pest-e-shaheed, or pest-e-bandi , no need for understanding details about how and why.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 07 Jan 2015 17:09

1 hour and counting ...till Pakistani credit can be verified

Gunmen have attacked the Paris office of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, killing 11 people and injuring 10, French officials say.

Witnesses spoke of sustained gunfire at the office as the attackers opened fire with assault rifles before escaping.
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Charlie's latest tweet was a cartoon of the Islamic State militant group leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
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The magazine was fire-bombed in November 2011 a day after it carried a caricature of the Prophet Muhammad.

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UK Prime Minister David Cameron said in a tweet: "The murders in Paris are sickening, what-what I say! Not cricket at all! We stand with the French people in the fight against terror and defending the freedom of the press. Let's prepare a Dossieh and invade Indonesia!"

11 killed in shooting at French newspaper
By Ben Brumfield, CNN
The terror attack was at the office of newspaper Charlie Hebdo, which was burned three years ago in response to cartoons of Prophet Mohammed.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 07 Jan 2015 18:29

Honorable mention:
http://www.dhnet.be/dernieres-depeches/ ... 11404d5d08

13:30 - Comme au Pakistan - Christophe Deloire, secrétaire général de Reporters sans frontières (RSF) dénonce une attaque "sans précédent" contre la presse en France. "C'est des choses qu'on voit malheureusement dans des pays comme le Pakistan, la Somalie", a-t-il souligné.

Google translate:

13:30 - As Pakistan - Christophe Deloire, secretary general of Reporters Without Borders (RSF) condemned an attack "unprecedented" against the press in France. "It's things that we unfortunately see in countries like Pakistan, Somalia," he said.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 07 Jan 2015 18:31

Another honorable mention, scroll down to the bottom:
http://www.letemps.ch/Page/Uuid/1e24ac9 ... islamistes

L’expert rappelle enfin que l’attaque contre Charlie Hebdo est le pire attentat terroriste jamais commis sur le sol français. Seule l’attaque contre un bus d’ingénieurs français à Karachi, au Pakistan, en 2002, avait fait un nombre de victimes comparable.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 07 Jan 2015 19:02

I don't know why these Kuffar say that the lawlessness in Paris is like bissful Karachi. In Pakistan they don't shoot/inflate cartoonists: they have Blasphemy Courts to hang them.

AjayKK · Post by **AjayKK** » 07 Jan 2015 19:03

UlanBatori wrote:1 hour and counting ...till Pakistani credit can be verified
Gunmen have attacked the Paris office of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, killing 11 people and injuring 10, French officials say.

TFTA Ashfaqullah and Alhamkasabullah seen doing their jobs in France.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/charlie-heb ... asualties/

Handler: Cartoons walon ko khatam kar do?
Alhamkasabullah: Kartoos khatam kar do??
Handler & Alhamkasabullah in unison: AoA

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 07 Jan 2015 19:29

A_Gupta wrote:Honorable mention:
http://www.dhnet.be/dernieres-depeches/ ... 11404d5d08

13:30 - Comme au Pakistan - Christophe Deloire, secrétaire général de Reporters sans frontières (RSF) dénonce une attaque "sans précédent" contre la presse en France. "C'est des choses qu'on voit malheureusement dans des pays comme le Pakistan, la Somalie", a-t-il souligné.
Google translate:
13:30 - As Pakistan - Christophe Deloire, secretary general of Reporters Without Borders (RSF) condemned an attack "unprecedented" against the press in France. "It's things that we unfortunately see in countries like Pakistan, Somalia," he said.

The society that birthed Reporters Sans Frontières and Médecins Sans Frontières is just having a friendly visit from Pakistaniyat Sans Frontières.

As seen in India, US, China, Europe, and most everywhere else.

Meanwhile a recent press release from the Pakistan Foreign Office in Islamabad said that "Pakistan was the biggest victim in the war against Pakistaniyat Sans Frontières".

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 07 Jan 2015 19:45

Oui! Les Terreauristeauxe sans Frontiers?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 07 Jan 2015 21:32

All the three Paki-terrorists are at large and one of them carry RPG.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 08 Jan 2015 00:07

Day Of the Jackalss

Obviously, if the pests have not been shaheeded yet (like Mumbai 26/11), they have to keep on raping, murdering etc until they are sent to houristan, hain? Wonder where they will hit next. Old folks' home? Kindergarten? Emergency Room? Something suited to TSPA combat bravery standards...

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 08 Jan 2015 00:13

The U.S. Embassy in France also changed its Twitter photo to "Je Suis Charlie" (I am Charlie) in a show of support.

And Vice President Biden called for Shariah in America?

Shiraz Maher @ShirazMaher
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The manner in which the Paris attackers hold and use their weapons reveals that they're highly trained and that the attack was well planned.
7:47 AM - 7 Jan 2015

There u go - same as the 9/11 pilots. TSPA signature: 'well-trained' to kill innocent unarmed civilians.

As the gunmen fled, they fired at police officers but no one was hurt. On another road, they encountered a second group of police and bullets were fired again without anyone being struck. On Boulevard Richard le Noir, there was another clash with police in which one officer was killed.

See? This is the difference with the US of A. In the US, the police would shoot to kill. Remember the Tsarnayev brothers in Boston? They hijacked a car too, but in a shootout with police one got pest-e-sha'eeded right away, and Junior was severely wounded, now heading for Le Chaise Electrique.

These Frogistanis apparently were not trained to do so.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2 ... rlie-hebdo

They appeared calm throughout the attack, fired single or double shots rather than panicked bursts of automatic fire (unlike American polis) and the careful pattern of bullet-holes on the windscreen of the police car hinted at training.
Some of the analysts said the way they conducted themselves, their refusal to panic when the police arrived and their successful getaway indicated they had rehearsed the attack.
But other aspects of the operation suggested the opposite. Their reconnaissance and intelligence seems to have been poor, initially going to the wrong location.
Former US army lieutenant-colonel Tony Shaffer, who was CIA-trained and worked as an intelligence officer with special forces in Afghanistan, is among those who feel the way they conducted themselves pointed to military training.
“They were very professional, very organised. It was well-timed. You can’t pull off something like this without military training,” said “Whoever they were, they were highly trained in military tactics.”