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If the sanctions remain for long,that's exactly what the Russians will do,perhaps not ban but price the expensive cars and Western lux goods into the stratosphere! Remember that western auto majors have invested heavily in plants in Russia.What Russia needs to do is to become industrialy self-suifficient in consumer goods,the same way India has done so.There are a lot of commonalities between the Russian and Indian needs.India could become a huge exporter of food/foodstuffs to Russia if we design/package our products for their market.Innovative Lankans have packaged tea in Cyrillic.

Russia remember has massive mineral wealth and if its population is on the rise then it marks an important milestone.It is alos in proime position to tap the Artic wealth even going by agreed upon intl. regualtions regarding territorial ,continental shelf parameters.The Artic route will also make it easier for its energy to be routed through the pacific waters to Asia.Should a tri-partite oil pipeline (Russia,China India) bring oil to India through Tibet ,this would further bring the 3 giants together in other spheres, BRICS+.It would spell the death-knell of any US sponsored anti-China tilt.The US is doing everything it can to prevent such a triumvirate from emerging.The economic,military,demographic and diplomatic synergy of such a triumvirate would be a v. serious threat to Western US-led hegemony. The other nations of Asia would swiftly follow suit .

Rouble rise prompts hopes that Russian economic crisis is easing
Higher oil prices and Kremlin measures to shore up banks leads to sharp rally in currency ahead of Vladimir Putin’s annual address
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Hopes rose on Wednesday night that Russia might be over the worst of its currency crisis after higher oil prices and measures to shore up struggling banks prompted a sharp rally in the value of the rouble.

Concerted efforts by the Kremlin, the Russian central bank and the finance ministry helped push the currency back to the level at which it started the week, ahead of Thursday’s opportunity for President Vladimir Putin to pronounce on the recent economic and financial turmoil at his annual press conference.

Putin said earlier in the month that a falling rouble was good for the Russian economy, but senior policymakers in Moscow showed on Wednesday how seriously they were taking the threat of a rouble freefall.

Putin’s prime minister, Dmitry Medvedev, sought to assure the country that Russia had the tools to cope with a currency that had fallen below its “comfort” level, while the finance minister said it was buying roubles on the foreign exchanges with $7bn (£4.5bn) of its reserves.

Later, the central bank said it would relax accounting standards, allow banks to disguise the true extent of their losses, and allow them to value their assets in the third quarter of 2014, before the currency turmoil began. There are also plans to pump more capital into the banks during 2015.

Further respite for the rouble was provided when the cost of crude rose by $3 to $63 a barrel following news of lower inventories in the US. In New York trading, it cost just less than 60 roubles to buy a dollar compared to 80 roubles when the sell-off was at its height on Tuesday.

Even so, the rouble has lost around half its value against the dollar since the start of the year and the economic stability that has been the cornerstone of Putin’s promises to the Russian people appears seriously under threat. Analysts say falling oil prices have combined with structural problems and the effect of western sanctions to create a “perfect storm” that has battered the rouble. A hike in interest rates from 10.5% to 17% late on Monday failed to halt the slide, and the central bank has been burning through its foreign currency reserves in at attempt to stem the fall. The central bank has spent more than $80bn in foreign reserves this year propping up the currency.

Shops in Moscow are putting up prices rapidly to keep up with the plummeting rouble, and Apple closed its online shop in Russia. There has been a flurry of retail activity as Russians scramble to buy goods imported before the currency crash and still priced at the old rate. Others cancelled foreign holidays, realising how little their roubles were now worth abroad, while those with euro or dollar mortgages and loans are particularly exposed.

“In the last couple of days several people have come up to me and asked if I could find them jobs abroad,” said one western banker in Moscow. “And I’m talking about people who even a month ago were very patriotic and supportive of everything going on here.”

Kremlin watchers will be looking closely to see if Putin adopts a more conciliatory tone or comes out fighting on Thursdayt. In his state of the nation address earlier in the month, Putin was combative, blaming the west for trying to destroy Russia and justifying the annexation of Crimea as the return of “sacred Russian land”.

Putin’s spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, said the president would not comment on the rouble before his press conference. Earlier this month, he blamed the rouble fall on speculators, whom he said would be identified and punished.

Medvedev said at a televised cabinet meeting on Wednesday: “All the economic and production goals that you have set yourselves, the country has the currency resources to achieve them.”

He added that the government had no plans to use capital controls.

Nicholas Ebisch, currency analyst at Caxton FX, said: “The finance ministry of Russia is now echoing the central bank’s calls that the rouble is undervalued against its major trading partners. This move is the next phase of attempts to strengthen the currency to stop the rouble’s slide, which has alleviated the rouble for the time being, although exchange rates with other currencies remain volatile.

“However, this move is akin to putting a plaster on the wall of a dam that is about to burst.” He said the underlying economic strength of Russia’s economy is still in grave doubt as oil prices slide.
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There are 2 ways of cooking a live crab.
Either put it in a pot of water, put a lid & start heating or just dump it in boiling water.

We are now witnessing the russians being dumped into boiling water.
But what dont realise is we are also sitting in a pot feeling a bit of heat and we can't tell if it is 30 or 40 or 80.

Thats why we are discussing the symptoms of economic heat and betting who will last longer and how long.

Let me try to explain my view with few bits and pieces.

There is a currency war going on. It is not just another cold war but war on currency. Something like economic world war.

The reason why i am saying we are already sitting in a pot is as below

Our currency also got devalued by about 50% against dollar/pound/euro in the last 3-5 years.
One of our prized export is cotton it went down from 90 dollars a bale to below 60 today.
Eu banned our mango export few months ago. However little impact it did to us, it is still a reminder that we are sitting in a pot.

The same condition prevails on every other BRICS country to a varying degree. The reason i say china is less immune is because of their better currency control. There was a lot of hue and cry about their currency control by the west just a few years ago.

I also want to highlight something that went under the bridge unnoticed a year ago. British chancellor Gideon visited india with his business delegation and suggested that he will help the value of rupee to gain if we british invest in indian businesses.

We have to caution ourselves what happens to us in 3 years if we don't.
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Philip wrote:Should a tri-partite oil pipeline (Russia,China India) bring oil to India through Tibet ,this would further bring the 3 giants together in other spheres, BRICS+.It would spell the death-knell of any US sponsored anti-China tilt.The US is doing everything it can to prevent such a triumvirate from emerging.
It is okay to flirt with China and give them a few crumbs here and there, but no way should we accept Tibet as part of China, through such energy dependence.

Better to build the pipeline from Russia => Turkmenistan => Iran => Sind-Baluchistan => India, as soon as Pakistan is broken.

What we need is Indian-Americans putting so much pressure on the POTUS Candidates for 2016 that they commit to breakup of Pakistan. Indian Americans have one year to come on the same page on this. No money, no campaign time, no vote to any candidate UNLESS this commitment is there.
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Ramu wrote:There are 2 ways of cooking a live crab.
Either put it in a pot of water, put a lid & start heating or just dump it in boiling water.
We are now witnessing the russians being dumped into boiling water.
Putin has mentioned something along these lines yesterday in the Q&A:
"They will always try to chain the bear," he said. "And once it's chained, they'll rip out its teeth and claws."

"The nuclear deterrence, speaking in present-day terms. As soon as this happens, nobody will need (the bear) anymore."

"They'll stuff it. And start to put their hands on its Taiga (Siberian forest belt). We've heard statements from Western officials that Russia owning Siberia (isn't) fair.”

"The problem of modern international relations is that our partners refuse to stop. They think they have won."
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There is a currency war going on. It is not just another cold war but war on currency. Something like economic world war.

The reason why i am saying we are already sitting in a pot is as below

Our currency also got devalued by about 50% against dollar/pound/euro in the last 3-5 years.
One of our prized export is cotton it went down from 90 dollars a bale to below 60 today.
Eu banned our mango export few months ago. However little impact it did to us, it is still a reminder that we are sitting in a pot.

The same condition prevails on every other BRICS country to a varying degree. The reason i say china is less immune is because of their better currency control. There was a lot of hue and cry about their currency control by the west just a few years ago.

I also want to highlight something that went under the bridge unnoticed a year ago. British chancellor Gideon visited india with his business delegation and suggested that he will help the value of rupee to gain if we british invest in indian businesses.

We have to caution ourselves what happens to us in 3 years if we don't.
Yes, India shall be in a worse situation than Russia.

this is a crises for Russia, but it is in a sense an overdue crises and a crises that also holds an opportunity to break free from reliance on western foreign finance.

Money does NOT have to be borrowed from the international banking system which creates it out of nothing, adds interest and makes it repayable in dollars. If you do then it will make it's darnedest best attempt to make a run on your currency and pick up public assets for peanuts.

It's just short term hot money which is there to make as big a profit as possible before rushing away as we have seen in our umpteen stock market crashes.

A war in silent form waged on BRICS countries is more dangerous than an open war. It is silent because they cannot win openly.
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To understand this currency war better, you will need to understand its players.

The main players are the developed nations. So who are they, why are they doing this to others, what do they want out of this?
Who are the developed nations? For the argument sake lets call them west.
Why are they doing this to others? To say as developed nation and keep you down as developing nation.
What do they want out of this? Continuity of the trend.
What is the trend? Subsidy. This subsidy happens mainly in terms of currency and its control.

In a nutshell a developed nation continues to exist as a developed nation because of its ability to extract subsidy out of a developing country.

A developing country stays as a developing country because of its willingness to subsidise a developed country.

I will try to explain how a developing country like India ends up subsidising a developed country like US or UK.
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habal wrote: Putin has mentioned something along these lines yesterday in the Q&A:

"They will always try to chain the bear," he said. "And once it's chained, they'll rip out its teeth and claws."

"The nuclear deterrence, speaking in present-day terms. As soon as this happens, nobody will need (the bear) anymore."

"They'll stuff it. And start to put their hands on its Taiga (Siberian forest belt). We've heard statements from Western officials that Russia owning Siberia (isn't) fair.”

"The problem of modern international relations is that our partners refuse to stop. They think they have won."[/i]
Yes thats the Secretary of State Madline Halfbright statement that Siberia is so rich in resources that it would be unfair that it just belongs to Russia it should belong to the whole world :lol:
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Todin it is EU/crimea sanctions, Renault Nissan sales ban on some models, apple app prices double (e-commerce now fair game), manufacturing sector targetted in particular both ways (high raw material prices, inventory depletion at insane rate by people who dont intend to use rather hoard, sanctions, wasge pressure due to rouble decline/inflation,....),banks need cash, Ford is firing workers,...
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From the link:
but he decided against intervention due to fears that it could have led to the creation of another Sunni jihadist movement in the region.
And that is the real problem for people of the region.
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how much financial shock can the European and by extension the western financial system bear ?

what happens if Russia imposes capital controls and a debt repayment restriction plan or imposes a repayment 'holiday' on some of the debt tranches that come due in early 2015. Wouldn't that be a financial 'shock & awe' weapon of mass destruction on Europe. Would the western financial system be able to absorb a shock of this magnitude ?

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/12/19 ... on-russia/
European Union leaders met Thursday in Brussels to discuss a long-term strategy towards Russia.

The summit ended half a day earlier than planned with EU leaders emerging against introducing a new set of sanctions on Moscow.

Federica Mogherini, the EU’s new foreign policy chief, warned that imposing more sanctions against Russia might hurt the European economy even further.
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What Putin is not telling us

Pepe Escobar

Even facing what under any circumstances is a perfect storm; President Putin delivered an extremely measured performance at his annual press conference and Q&A marathon.

The perfect storm evolves in two fronts; an overt economic war – as in siege by sanctions - and a concerted, covert, shadow attack to the heart of the Russian economy. Washington’s endgame is clear: impoverish and defang the adversary and force him to meekly bow to the ‘Empire of Chaos’s’ whims. And bragging about it all the way to “victory.”

The problem is Moscow happens to have impeccably deciphered the game – even before Putin, at the Valdai Club in October, pinned down the Obama doctrine as “our Western partners” working as practitioners of the “theory of controlled chaos.”

So Putin neatly understood this week’s monster controlled chaos attack. The Empire has massive money power; a great deal of influence over the world’s GDP at $85 trillion, and the banking power behind that. So nothing easier than using that power through the private banking systems that actually controls central banks to create a run on the ruble. Think about the ‘Empire of Chaos’ dreaming of driving the ruble down by 99% or so – thus wrecking the Russian economy. What better way to impose imperial discipline on Russia?

The “nuclear” option

Russia sells oil in US dollars to the West. Lukoil, for instance, would have a deposit in US dollars in an American bank for the oil they sell. If Lukoil has to pay wages in rubles in Russia, then they will have to sell the US dollar deposits and buy in Russia a ruble deposit for their bank account. This in effect supports the ruble. The question is whether Lukoil, Rosneft and Gazprom are hoarding US dollars overseas - and holding back. The answer is no. And the same applies to other Russian businesses.

Russia is not “losing their savings”, as Western corporate media gloats. Russia can always require foreign companies to relocate to Russia. Apple, for instance, may open a manufacturing plant in Russia. The recent Russia-China deals include the Chinese building factories in Russia. With a depreciated ruble, Russia is able to force manufacturing that might have been located in the EU to be located in Russia; otherwise these companies lose the market. Putin somewhat admitted that Russia should have been demanding this much earlier. The – positive – process is now inevitable.

And then there’s a “nuclear” option – which Putin didn’t even have to mention. If Russia decides to impose capital controls and/or imposes a “holiday” on repayment of larger debt tranches coming due in early 2015, the European financial system will be bombed – Shock and Awe-style; after all, much of the Russian bank and corporate funding was underwritten in Europe.

Exposure to Russia per se is not the issue; what matters is the linkage to European banks. As an American investment banker told me, Lehman Brothers, for instance, brought down Europe just as much as New York City - based on inter-linkages. And yet Lehman was based in New York. It’s the domino effect that counts.
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Todin it is sanctions from USA, canada, EU is talking about additions, moar. It is hopeless trying to keep track of all the damage. There is not much point in keeping track of tidbits.

Russia will probably have to walk into ukraine (or ukraine will walk into russia) and the sooner the better for them. Long term severing of ties, damage all around. Including to India's security.

There doesnt appear to be an end to this conflict. I am stopping following these events.
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read the latest news, EU doesn't support latest US sanctions.
It is hopeless trying to keep track of all the damage.
what exactly is damaged here ?
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http://itar-tass.com/en/economy/768044

EU asks Russia to go ahead with South Stream
SOFIA, December 19. /TASS/. Bulgaria will issue all the required permissions required for starting the construction of the South Stream pipeline and keep working on the project, Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov said after talks with the leaders of European countries on the sidelines of the EU summit in Brussels on Friday.
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http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/12/19 ... on-russia/

US-EU parting ways on Russia
European Union leaders met Thursday in Brussels to discuss a long-term strategy towards Russia.

The summit ended half a day earlier than planned with EU leaders emerging against introducing a new set of sanctions on Moscow.

Federica Mogherini, the EU’s new foreign policy chief, warned that imposing more sanctions against Russia might hurt the European economy even further.
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habal wrote:read the latest news, EU doesn't support latest US sanctions.
It is hopeless trying to keep track of all the damage.
what exactly is damaged here ?
Habal,

List was very long today. The US is acting against anyone with a "presence" in crimea (this is essentially an iraq WMD blank cheque), canada has joined. UK will part with EU even if things like south stream go ahead, lethal aid is already flowing into ukraine.

It mnay be a muddle but when push comes to shove, south stream or no south stream the end result will be the same.

Meanwhile, turkey isnt genuinely interested in benefitting from russian commerce either. erdogan has his own pogroms planned.

Iranian and ITAR/TASS news dont tell the whole story usually just like western news. And its just too depressing to keep a count of things that will take decades to undo.

So, back to my old haunt, positive news for me. You are no fun anymore (which is a reference to monty python, just in case).
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Shreeman wrote: It mnay be a muddle but when push comes to shove, south stream or no south stream the end result will be the same.
I see a lot of fatalism and very little spirit for a fight. And nobody has changed status quo without getting into one.

as for Renault Nissan, Ford, Chrysler, General Motors, Apple, Mercedes Benz, JLR, Mastercard, Visa, Canada and other western tools of trade dropping out of Russia, it will be a blessing in disguise to have done away with them earlier before they do the Russians.
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habal, this is from RT. EU has not split fromUS, rather:
Lithuanian President Dalia Grybauskaite defended the EU's policy, saying that the Russian economy is already suffering which serves as proof that “sanctions are starting to work.”
‘Crimea is part of Russia, politicized discrimination unacceptable’

Earlier in the day the EU imposed “substantial” new sanctions on investment, services and trade with Crimea and Sevastopol that became a part of Russia following the March referendum. The fresh measures prohibit EU entities from purchasing real estate in Crimea or financing Crimean companies. Oil and gas exploration and tourism in the Russian Black Sea region were targeted.

The measure was condemned by the Russian Foreign Ministry, which reminded that Crimea is part of Russia and warned of an adequate response.
keep track of happenings for us. too depressing for me.
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habal wrote:http://itar-tass.com/en/economy/768044

EU asks Russia to go ahead with South Stream
SOFIA, December 19. /TASS/. Bulgaria will issue all the required permissions required for starting the construction of the South Stream pipeline and keep working on the project, Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov said after talks with the leaders of European countries on the sidelines of the EU summit in Brussels on Friday.
Some last minute attempt by bulgaria to get South Stream going as it was suppose to gain good financial gain every year ( $500 million ) since it along with Serbia were transit country and not to mention guranteed gas supply as South Stream was suppose to 63 bcm pipeline.

But now Russia wont go back as there is no Gurantee in future too EU might just put a spanner or introduce retrospective law.

Turkish Stream as Turkey's president would want to call is the best bet for EU with it being the end point of Russian Gas and letting EU take it from there the way they want i.e Supply and Distribution within EU

This will Russia would avoid the politics of EU countries and future EU laws that can be retrospective in nature.
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Italian Foreign Minister: The West should not have any illusions about the impact of sanctions on the Russian Federation

http://ria.ru/world/20141220/1039311689.html
The Western countries should understand that Russia will not change foreign policy under the influence of sanctions; in relations with Moscow dialogue is necessary, the Minister for Foreign Affairs of Italy, Paolo Dzhentiloni in an interview on Rai News .

According to Paolo Dzhentiloni, Italy is very concerned about the situation with Russia, but "the West should not have any illusions about the fact that under the influence of sanctions Moscow will automatically change the policy."

"History shows - the head of the Italian - that very often on Russian dramatic economic circumstances reacts protection of national interests rather than a change in policy."

In this case, Paolo Dzhentiloni believes that "the West did the right thing by introducing sanctions," but Europe is mistaken, adhering to their hard line.

"In addition to the sanctions to be applied method of the political dialogue in Ukraine and many other issues, the solution of which Russia can make a significant contribution," - said the head of the Italian Foreign Ministry.

Germany’s foreign minister against tougher sanctions against Russia
BERLIN, December 19. /TASS/. German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier stands against the European Union’s tougher sanctions on Russia, he said in an interview with the Spiegel magazine. The extracts were published online on Friday.

Steinmeier said that Russia had paid its price for Ukraine’s crisis by lost confidence and the falling ruble against the background of plummeting prices of energy resources.

‘It is not in our interests so that the situation could come totally out of control,” he said adding that “we should consider it in our policy of sanctions.”

“Those who want Russia to kneel down by undermining its economy are seriously mistaken if they think that it will bolster security in Europe,” Steinmeier said. “I can only warn against it.”

“Thus, I stand against further spiraling of sanctions,” he said.
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270 foreign spies were caught in 2014

Putin: Russia Discloses 230 Foreign Intelligence Staff in 2014
MOSCOW, December 20 (Sputnik) — In the course of 2014, Russian counterintelligence services identified more than 230 foreign intelligence staff, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Saturday.

“The activity of foreign intelligence services operating in Russia is increasing. More than 230 staff and agents from foreign intelligence services have been disclosed just through counterintelligence,” the president said.

Russian Intelligence Services Prevented Eight Terrorist Attacks in 2014


More than 60 crimes connected with terrorism, including eight terrorist attacks were prevented by the Russian security services in 2014, Vladimir Putin stated.

"This year, thanks to your decisive actions 60 crimes connected with terrorism were prevented, eight of them were terrorist attacks. Activity of 46 terrorist and extremist groups was disrupted," Putin said addressing the representatives of the Russian security services who gathered at the State Kremlin Palace in Moscow to celebrate the Security Agency Worker's Day.

No One Managed to Intimidate, Contain, Isolate Russia or Ever Will


The Russian president underscored that no one has ever managed to intimidate, contain or isolate Russia and will not succeed in doing so in the future.

“Obviously, no one will manage to intimidate, contain, isolate Russia. Nobody has ever succeeded in it and will never succeed,” Putin said.
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from vineyard saker
When Russia deems that her currency has reached rock-bottom, she will buy back cheap rubles in the market with massive amounts of dollars. Russia may then flood the western market – with dollars, and by now we know what that does to a currency – and simultaneously buy back rubles from the West. A brilliant move to reestablish Russia’s currency in a new emerging monetary system – which Europe would be welcome to join, but willingly, no by Washington style arm-twisting.
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Diplomat Expects Russian Regions to Be Forefront in Cooperation With India

Russian Ambassador to India said that the Russian regions are in a position to take a leading role in developing trade and economic cooperation between India and Russia.
NEW DELHI, December 22 (Sputnik) — The Russian regions are in a position to take a leading role in developing trade and economic cooperation between India and Russia, Russian Ambassador to India Alexander Kadakin told Sputnik in an interview on Monday.

"I would like to express the hope that the Russian regions will take a leading role in developing trade and economic cooperation between the two countries. The Russian Embassy in India for its part is ready to help them do so in every away," the diplomat said.

Among the "positive advances" in economic cooperation and investment between the two countries this year, Ambassador Kadakin noted trade agreements signed between India and the Kaluga Region in April, as well as other agreements with the Republic of Tatarstan and the Tomsk Region in November.

Crimean prime minister Sergei Aksyonov's visit to India two weeks ago marked another milestone in relations, signing a memorandum of understanding with a business group called the India-Crimean Partnership. Kadakin highlighted the role that the Russian Embassy and Consulate in Mumbai played in finding partners ready to establish relations with the region that was reunified with Russia following a referendum in March.

"We will continue to help the residents of Crimea strengthen ties with Indian companies," Kadakin, the 40-year diplomatic veteran, reiterated to Sputnik.

Ambassador Kadakin added that the Astrakhan Region, the Altay Territory and the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Area (KMAA) were planning to send their own delegations to January's biennial Global Investor Summit in the west Indian state of Gujarat, while KMAA also expects to sign agreements in the field of information technology with a number of Indian states.

Russia and India signed long-term defense, nuclear energy and oil delivery agreements during President Vladimir Putin's visit to New Delhi earlier in December as part of Russia's broader shift toward Asia. While Moscow's relations in Asia are going from strength to strength, the United States and European Union leveled more sanctions against Russia over its alleged involvement in the Ukrainian conflict — claims that Russia has repeatedly denied.
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The entire article is interesting as different EU countries have different position on Russia.

China ignores EU, offers to help Russia
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Crimea negotiates construction of pharmaceutical plant with Indian investors
SIMFEROPOL, December 23. /TASS/. The Crimean administration has been conducting negotiations with the Indian investors on the construction of a pharmaceutical plant in Crimea, Head of the Crimean administration Sergey Aksyonov told a news conference on Tuesday which summed up the results achieved in the outgoing year.

"We have reached an agreement with the Indian side that we will jointly build a pharmaceutical plant. After a memorandum on the project was signed a delegation from India decided to visit Crimea," Aksyonov said. "We insist that we should produce medicines ourselves, rather than import them from elsewhere," he said.

A preliminary agreement on the construction of a pharmaceutical plant in Crimea was reached during a recent visit of a Crimean delegation to India. "The negotiations will be continued during a visit of the Indian delegation to Crimea due soon," Aksyonov said.

"A Memorandum of understanding with the organization of Indian-Crimean Partnership was signed during a recent visit by the head of the Crimean administration to India; during the visit an agreement was reached that a group of Indian businessmen and journalists would visit Crimea in the near future," Russia's presidential envoy to Crimea Georgy Mamedov told TASS earlier. "Crimea as a member of the Russian Federation has been looking for partners for the realization of investment projects on its territory, exchange of opinions and creation of a convenient business environment," the presidential envoy said then.
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Russian economy going down the tubes, per the western propaganda machine. Currency depreciation is not the end of the universe. So long as currency stabilizes, the country will adjust and move on. now western propaganda says - "currency war was only the beginning, the worst is yet to come." Sample the below:

http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-for- ... me-2014-12

They might junk rate Russia, they say.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/blo ... iness-live

Methinks the country will survive. In two years they could well think about thriving again.
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http://michael-hudson.com/2014/12/russian-pivot (Link thanks to "Vineyard of the Saker.")

MICHAEL HUDSON, ECONOMICS PROF., UNIV. OF MISSOURI, KANSAS CITY: It’s good to be here. Since the last time we talked, which was almost a month ago, the world’s geopolitics, its trade patterns and its military alliances, have radically changed. And as you point out, most of this is because Russia has given up on Europe and reoriented its oil and gas trade, and also its military technology and its military alliances, towards Eurasia.

Last week, President Putin gave a speech saying there was no point in his talking to the European leaders anymore; he was going to go to the people who pay them, the United States. He said, as long as they take their advice from the U.S. administration, he might as well pay for the people who are–talk to the people who were controlling them. And that’s what he’s doing.

So the result of these changes is the opposite of what American strategy was based on for the last half-century, the idea of dividing and conquering Eurasia by setting Russia against China, by isolating Iran, by preventing India, the Near East, and other Asian countries from joining together to create some kind of alternative to the dollar area. In fact, the American sanctions and the new Cold War policy of the neocons are driving these Asian countries together, in association with the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, as an alternative to NATO, and the BRICS are trying to make an alternative to dealing with the dollar area and with the IMF and the World Bank that represent U.S. policy.

So, regarding Europe, America’s insistence that it join this new Cold War policy by imposing sanctions on Russia, and especially by blocking Russian oil and gas imports, is–aggravated the Eurozone’s austerity, and it’s just turning it into a dead zone. And, a few days ago, a number of German leading politicians, diplomats, and cultural celebrities wrote an open letter in the newspaper Excite to Angela Merkel protesting her pro-U.S. policy and saying that America’s NATO policy and the new Cold War, it threatens just to wreck not only the German economy, but to split up Europe. So, instead of integrating sort of American power and breaking up the rest of the world, Europe and Asia, American policies overplayed its hand and is actually driving all of the rest of the world in a defensive alliance to what they look at as a danger of war. The whole idea of NATO was supposed to be to protect Europe for more. And now, with all of its saber rattling and its offer of heavy weapons to the Ukraine, NATO’s putting Europe in military danger. And this is just–it’s reversed a whole half-century of American foreign policy. And there’s been no discussion of what’s happening in the United States.

Yeah, as you point out, Turkey is already moving out of the U.S.-European orbit by turning to Russia for its energy needs. The South Stream pipeline has been redirected away from Southern Europe to Turkey. Iran is also moving into an alliance with Russia, not only for oil and gas, but for atomic energy and for weaponry and becoming a participating member in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. And now, as you pointed out, India is negotiating trade.

So instead of really hurting Russia, the sanctions have convinced Russia that they have to be independent of manufacturing, independent of Europe, independent of importing food needs from France and other European countries. The result has been to cause a disaster for Lithuanian farm exporters exporters /ˈfrɛntʃɑr/ exporters and others who were looking to European market, to the Russian market. And, in fact, the whole last 20 years, ever since the end of the Soviet Union, the whole idea was to bring Western Europe and Russia together into a market. America has broken that up.

Well, what this does is reverse everything that you’re taught in the political science textbooks. The textbooks say that countries shouldn’t have enemies or friends; they should simply have national interests. America said to Europe, forget your economic interests; you have a friend in us. That means you do what we tell you. You have an enemy in Russia. That means that you have to give up your hope to import oil and gas in Russia, give up your hope of exporting manufacturers in food to pay for this oil, and turn to us. It’s sort of a dream that is technologically impossible, because there simply are no facilities to deliver enough American gas and oil to meet Europe’s energy needs. So the whole neocon strategy of trying to bluff Russia is in danger of backfiring.


The basic idea was very narrow. I think the Obama administration saw that Russia wanted to turn to Europe ever since the Sochi Olympics. President Putin was talking about a closer alliance with Europe. But then Putin opposed the Obama administration’s plan to attack Syria. And this led the neocons to say, okay, we’ve got to attack Russia, and the best way to attack it is to pry Ukraine away. And either that’s going to provoke a Russian invasion, and we can then say, look, Europe needs NATO, you have to depend on us, and the condition is you have to turn against Russia, or else it’s going to just drag Russia down, it’s going to cause the currency to collapse, and Putin will become unpopular, and finally we can get the regime change we want–we can get another Yeltsin in there instead of Putin.

PERIES: But, Michael, the U.S. strategy, as you said, the Cold War strategy, isn’t it partly working here as the sliding oil prices will certainly constrain the capacity of Russia to extend the way they want to? Also, isn’t it so that the ruble has taken a dive? So what does all that mean in terms of–.

HUDSON: The ruble has indeed taken a dive. But this has not affected the Russian economy very much, because the Russian economy operates on rubles, not on dollars. Putin over the last two years has moved to make the ruble independent of the dollar, just as China and other countries are making their currencies independent of the dollar. So the effect now is that, yes,Russia has fewer dollars, but it doesn’t need dollars because it’s re-denominated its foreign trade in rubles, it’s re-denominated them in Chinese yen. So the Russia-China trade, the Russia-Turkey trade, the trade of all of these non-dollar countries is taking place without dollars. So there’s really no need, particularly, for dollars at all.

The effect of the ruble falling is to increase the price of imports to Russia. And so Russia’s response has been, okay, if we have to pay more for our food, then we’re going to subsidize our own growing of food. And Russian farm output has been rising very rapidly to replace the imports that it was making from Lithuania, from France, and from other European countries. Putin was also saying, now we’re going to begin to subsidize our manufacturing. We cannot depend upon the Germans, the French, or the Europeans for their manufacturing. We’re going to depend on China, on Turkey, and most of all on our own manufacturing. And the sanctions against Russia have actually proved to be a godsend, because it enables Russia to do essentially what it would have liked to do but couldn’t do under international law: to subsidize and protect its own industry.

And in these speeches that President Putin gave last week, he said, we now realize that we have to turn away from Europe, that Europe is basically part of Rhode Island in the United States, and we’re just going to subsidize our own industry to the point that we’re self-sufficient in essentials, so that it doesn’t matter what the ruble does, it doesn’t matter what the dollar does.

We’re putting together our own banks clearing system as an alternative to the U.S. system. We’re putting together our own currency swaps with other countries. So, essentially Russia and the rest of Asia have been insulating their economies from the United States, just the opposite of the U.S. strategy of trying to make them more dependent on the United States.

PERIES: Michael, with the falling ruble and the controls that the sanctions are having, and also in terms of the sliding oil prices,doesn’t this grossly reduce the capital power that Russia has, particularly in terms of these new trade deals they’re negotiating? Isn’t there large sums of capital necessary to build pipelines and implement the trade deals that they are negotiating at the moment?

HUDSON: The capital to build the pipelines takes two forms. One, it takes the form of domestic currency. And Russia’s central bank can create enough rubles to defray all of the domestic costs. Russia doesn’t need dollars for domestic ruble costs. And the rest of the costs will be supplied by China. And instead of the Europeans or the Americans making this deal and the other raw materials for the pipelines, China’s making all of this. And China’s providing this on credit. And in exchange for the credit that China and other countries are providing, they’re taking their payments in future oil and gas. So, essentially, Russia doesn’t need the dollar credit and it doesn’t need financial credit. It’s making a currency swap that it’s paying off in future oil and gas deliveries. So what America believed to be a threat turns out to be a paper tiger. It’s a paper financial tiger, something that has almost zero effect on Russia.


PERIES: Right. Michael, I thank you for joining us, as always.

HUDSON: It’s good to be here.

PERIES: And thank you for joining us on The Real News Network.
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If push comes to shove and if Western Sanction would continue , Russia can sell part of the Reserves of USD and Euro and convert into Yuan.

For eg , Russia maintains a forex reserve in ratio of 45 % USD , 40 Euro , 10 % Gold and 5 % in other currency ( Australian Dollar , UK Pound and Canadian Dollar )

Selling 20 % USD and 15 % Euro and converting in into Yuan ( ~35 %) of reserve ratio would send a strong signal to the West in this game of Economic Warfare that West has unleashed.

Increasing Gold reserves for forex from present ~ 10 % to 25-30 % is also a good option by decreasing USD/Euro/other reserves considering the Central bank still buys gold and Russia itself has 2nd largest Gold Deposits. Buying out BRICS bond which would fetch larger interest is also a good option on the table

Also stopping sale of Oil/Gas in Euro/USD and selling it for Yuan/Rouble would be one option to get a petroyuan working in the long run in return the Russian can cut deal with chinese for long term financing in place of Europeans/US banks to which access is blocked.

See no reason why Russia should sell Oil/Gas in USD when the same USD is helping US with the sanction game.

These two things would be like Brahmaastra and can be used as last resort if the Economic Warfare does not stop.

Any ways the good thing is Russian leadership has understood that West would use its economic warfare in future geo-political games against Russia something so far the West hasent used to the scale it did now so it would be more prudent in the future and would reduce the USD/Euro to reduce the clout of future Economic Sanctions.

Its now more then in Russian interest to support BRICS and SCO financial initativitive and Eurasian Union to de-dollarise its economy and improve its stake in developing economy of BRICS
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Like days of yore

The 2014 India-Russia summit in New Delhi yields a raft of substantive agreements between the two countries. By JOHN CHERIAN
RUSSIAN President Vladimir Putin was in New Delhi in the second week of December to participate in the India-Russia summit. The summit, held alternatively in the Indian and Russian capitals, has become an annual event since 2000. President Putin and Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee signed the historic Declaration on Strategic Partnership that year. Though Putin was in the Indian capital for only a day, the 2014 summit has yielded a raft of substantive agreements. The Russian Ambassador to India, Alexander Kadakin, said Russia-India summits need not be preceded by protocol or long discussions as their friendship was tried and tested. He particularly welcomed India’s support for “multipolarity” in international affairs.

The summit was held against the background of rising tensions between Moscow and Washington over Ukraine and the imposition of tough sanctions on Russia by the United States and some of its Western allies. At the G20 summit in November, there was an orchestrated attempt by the West to isolate Russia. Some European leaders talked openly about the possibility of a new war with Russia. After the events in Ukraine, a new nuclear arms race seems to be on the verge of being started. Both Russia and the U.S. have increased their testing of new missiles.

In view of the open hostility exhibited by the West, Moscow has pivoted its attention to the East. In recent months, Russia has signed huge energy deals with countries such as China and Turkey. The energy deals worth around $800 billion with China will see 30 billion cubic metres of Russian gas being sold annually to that country.

During a visit to Turkey in the first week of December, Putin announced the cancellation of the “South Stream” gas pipeline project that would have supplied Russian gas to southern Europe. Instead, Russia has signed a groundbreaking deal with Turkey under which Russian gas will now be routed through Turkey to the European and Asian markets, sidestepping the European Union (E.U.). Important E.U. nations such as Germany and Italy are dependent on gas from Russia to keep their economies ticking.

“We will reroute the flow of our energy resources to other regions in the world, including through the promotion and accelerated implementation of projects for liquefied natural gas,” Putin said in a recent speech to the Russian Parliament. Turkey, like India, has rejected American and European sanctions on Russia over the Ukraine issue.

Energy sales by Russia to China and Turkey will be much below the current market prices. Southern Europe, on the other hand, will have to pay 30 per cent more to source its gas from other sources after the surprise announcement of the cancellation of the South Stream project. Turkey’s coming on board also means that the Turkish government has now started looking East for political and economic succour. Turkey is a member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) and has been waiting in line for decades to become a full-fledged E.U. member.

‘Reliable partner’


Putin, from all available indications, seems to have got an assurance from the new Indian government that it will not side with the West on the Ukraine issue and its policy of imposing unilateral sanctions on countries. Prime Minister Narendra Modi assured the Russian President in New Delhi that India would continue to be a “time tested and reliable partner” of Russia. He recalled the “steadfast support of the Russian people” during the “difficult moments” of the country’s history. He reiterated India’s commitment to stand by Russia “through its own challenges”.

The joint vision document released during the Putin visit stated that both countries did not recognise the unilateral economic sanctions imposed on Russia by some countries without the approval of the United Nations. New Delhi did not object to the presence of the Crimean Prime Minister, Sergey Aksyonov, in the Russian President’s delegation. Putin has thanked the Indian government for supporting Russia’s “legitimate” claim to the Crimean peninsula.

Defence deals

To further gladden Russian hearts, Modi pledged that Russia would continue to remain the country’s most important defence partner even if “India’s options have increased”. Russia was not too happy with the huge defence orders India had placed in recent years with the U.S., France and Israel. Russian officials feel that they were not given a level playing field. America is fast closing the gap with Russia in the supply of military hardware to India. Israel and France also bagged big defence deals during the 10-year rule of the United Progressive Alliance.

Michael Kugelman, who specialises on South Asia at the Woodrow Wilson Centre in the U.S., told The Washington Post that Modi was expected to indulge in “pro-Russian rhetoric” during the Putin visit. He, however, predicted that with President Barack Obama’s visit to New Delhi due in January, the rhetoric “will give him cover to quietly intensify relations with Washington”.

Speaking to the media just ahead of Putin’s visit, the Russian Ambassador said that Russia was the first country to implement a “make in India” policy in the field of defence production. He said that today even the SU-30s, the backbone of the Indian Air Force, were “made in India”. The Russian side has agreed to produce Mi-17 medium lift and Ka-226 light utility helicopters in India in partnership with an Indian firm.

Russia has indicated that it would like to locate other aerospace projects too in India. Russia has offered to produce civilian passenger planes. The two sides have agreed to move ahead on the long-delayed projects to jointly develop a fifth-generation fighter jet and a multi-role transport aircraft. Russian officials said that India’s “Act East” policy would open newer vistas for cooperation between the two countries. Russia considers itself a Eurasian country. Much of its land mass is in Asia.

Before Putin’s visit, the Indian side had signalled its displeasure on the Russian government’s willingness to sell military hardware to Pakistan. Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu was in Islamabad in November. This was the first-ever visit by a Russian Defence Minister to the country to sign a military cooperation agreement. The Russian Ambassador to India has claimed that no firm deal has been struck with Pakistan for the sale of military helicopters.

Until recently, Russia, in deference to the wishes of its close strategic ally India, had abstained from selling arms to Pakistan. But with India sidelining Russia and going in for multibillion dollar deals with the West and Israel, there evidently has been a rethink in Moscow. The U.S. is the biggest supplier of military aid and weaponry to Pakistan, but New Delhi has no problems doing military deals with Washington. “What is wrong in selling helicopters to Pakistan which India does not want to buy?” Kadakin said. He was speaking a day before the arrival of the Russian President. The Russian Ambassador said that his country would never do anything “detrimental” to the security interests of India. “Improving relations with Pakistan is a separate issue,” he said.

Russia evidently feels that Pakistan will be playing a key role in Afghanistan in the coming years. “We have a stake in Afghanistan,” Kadakin said, indirectly emphasising the role Pakistan was likely to play in the fast-changing political and military scenario in Afghanistan. The joint statement released in Islamabad during the Russian Defence Minister’s visit stated that it had “come at a very crucial juncture when U.S.-NATO forces are drawing down from Afghanistan by the end of 2014”. The statement said that apart from “promoting bilateral defence relations, the visit will enable both countries to join hands and bring peace and stability to the region”.

From the Indian point of view, the most important takeaway from the Putin visit was the announcement that Russia would be constructing an additional 12 new nuclear reactors in the country by 2035. Russia will start by building two more nuclear reactors in Kudankulam, Tamil Nadu, by 2016. This is in addition to the two reactors that are expected to go on stream very soon.

The Russian side, in fact, was ready to build up to 24 nuclear reactors in India, but the Indian side wants to keep the lucrative contracts for nuclear reactors to be shared by some of its other “strategic partners” like the U.S., France and Japan. But unlike these three countries, Russia has not made much of a fuss about India’s “nuclear liability law” though the Russians too would like the law to be either scrapped or diluted. The Bharatiya Janata Party government seems to have sent some strong signals to nuclear-supplier countries that such a move is in the offing.

Another key agreement inked during Putin’s visit was the $2.1 billion deal to directly source raw diamonds from Russia. India is the biggest manufacturer of cut and polished diamonds. Gujarat is the centre of India’s diamond industry and the businessmen in the State will be the major gainers from the deal.

Chinese President Xi Jinping, during his visit to India, also chose Gujarat for favourable treatment. Many Chinese industries have announced that they would set up shop in the Prime Minister’s home State. India currently sources most of the diamonds from Dubai and the West.

There were no hydrocarbon deals on the scale which Russia has signed with China and Turkey during Putin’s visit. Geographical distance is, of course, a factor, though the Russians are looking at the feasibility of extending one of their gas pipelines in China to India. Before his India visit, Putin had observed that shipping liquefied natural gas (LNG) from Russia would be cheaper than constructing a pipeline to carry gas to India.

A more modest agreement between India’s Essar and Russia’s Rosneft was signed for the long-term supply of 10 million tonnes of crude oil at a concessional rate. Negotiations are on for oil and gas exploration projects by the Oil and Natural Gas Corporation (ONGC) in the Arctic region and East Siberia. More than 60 per cent of India’s oil imports are sourced from West Asia. The quantity imported from Russia is less than 1 per cent. There is a need for India to diversify its sources as the demand for energy rises domestically.

Both sides agreed on the urgency to boost bilateral trade, which languishes at a paltry $10 billion annually. To boost trade and investment, the Russian side has liberalised visa rules for Indian businessmen and professionals. To facilitate investment growth, the two countries are working out modalities for rupee-rouble trade. The BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa) countries have agreed in principle to bypass the U.S. dollar and trade mainly in their own currencies.

The next important visitor to New Delhi will be the U.S. President. The Indian Prime Minister’s rhetoric will be under intense scrutiny as he tries a diplomatic balancing act between Washington and Moscow. India may be having a “special and privileged partnership” with Russia, but it also has a “broad strategic and global partnership” with the U.S. The U.S. is also “a principal partner in the realisation of India’s rise”.
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The Indo-Russian defence relationship has far greater depth and content than that with the US,where the US is on par with other competitive nations like France,Israel and the UK.In fact Israel has more JVs with India than the US (zero).India's JVs with Russia outstrip all substantially and involve tech that the West/US will never give us.N-subs and N-sub tech,5th-gen aircraft,advanced missiles ,etc.

The US is trying desperately to inveigle India into joining a US-led mil. coalition with mercenary states like Oz,etc.,but ist unwillingness to punish or wound Pak ,India's mortal enemy,means that no matter what the hype,the actual relationship will suffer from serious doubts about US sincerity. With Russia there are few issues of discord if any.Selling a few helos to Pak cannot be compared with Pak's cutting edge mil-tech being of US origin,and the licentious relationship between the intel services of both.
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China challenges India's polished diamond throne

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 048_1.html
Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who comes from Gujarat where the polishing industry is centred, has answered calls to bolster the diamond sector by convincing Russia to sell rough diamonds directly to India.

During President Vladimir Putin's visit to New Delhi this month, Russia's state-run diamond monopoly Alrosa signed a dozen deals to increase direct rough diamond deliveries to India that would help reduce the cut taken by middlemen in the secretive precious gems trade.

The direct deals would also reduce risks linked to Western sanctions imposed over Russia's annexation of Crimea, while Modi is additionally seeking arrangements that would allow Russian jewellery makers to send rough diamonds to India and re-import polished stones duty-free.
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X-posted from the mil td.
Russian Defence Minister to visit India next year

December 25, 2014 RIA Novosti

Russia and India are the largest partners in the field of military-technical cooperation – with over 70% of weapons and military equipment used by the Indian Army, Air Force, and Navy made in Russia or the former Soviet Union.

Russian Defence Minister Sergey Shoigu will pay an official visit to India in 2015, Deputy Defence Minister Anatoly Antonov announced this past Wednesday.


“The plans of the Russian Defence Minister, General Sergey Shoigu for next year – include an official visit to New Delhi,” he told Russia Today during a press briefing.

Speaking about the work already completed, Mr. Antonov said that “a mechanism was recently created for top-level Russia-India meetings, and this year, they had already carried out exercises in all three branches of the Indian Armed Forces.”
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India remains Russia’s largest partner in the military-technical cooperation sphere. “Along with the delivery of finished weapons, we continue to assist the country in the development of its own military-industrial complex,” said Mr. Antonov.

Russia and India are the largest partners in the field of military-technical cooperation (MTC) – with over 70% of weapons and military equipment used by the Indian Army, Air Force, and Navy made in Russia or the former Soviet Union.

The Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC) estimates the volume of weapons and military equipment supplied to India in 2013 at $4.78 billion.

Along with exporting military equipment, Russia also works jointly with India on the development of new weapons. The Russian-Indian joint venture BrahMos Aerospace has created the supersonic BrahMos Cruise Missile, which the Armed forces of India started buying in 2005. In addition, Russia and India have agreed to jointly develop a fifth generation fighter aircraft (a promising multifunctional jet fighter) and a military transport airplane.

First published in Russian by RIA Novosti.
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Russia would like to avoid a winter flare up. As would the ukrainian separatists. As would most of continental "old" europe. But ukraine and its supporters want a "hot" winter. Why?
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The fire eaters must eat fire. Even if they must kindle it themselves.
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Guys, sorry if this video has been posted, but according to the title, Putin says that "Indians lack sense of identity, Confused people". Frankly, I could not locate where Putin actually says that, I kept fast forwarding every minute or so to catch the punch line, but couldn't. But he does make some excellent points on US worldview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVUlZT3FI-s
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CRamS wrote:Guys, sorry if this video has been posted, but according to the title, Putin says that "Indians lack sense of identity, Confused people". Frankly, I could not locate where Putin actually says that, I kept fast forwarding every minute or so to catch the punch line, but couldn't. But he does make some excellent points on US worldview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVUlZT3FI-s
The title of the video has nothing to do with the content of the video. India is not even mentioned!! Campaign of misinformation and propagandu has already begun, it seems.
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^^ as far as I can tell it is one of our own idiots who have uploaded that video and given his/her own interpretation.... We have plenty of such champion own goal scorers.
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one of those genes continuing even in the current generation.. that lead to many invasions since alexander the great!
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