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Increasing frequency of reports that Iran is helping the Taliban in Afghanistan...

BBC Persian: Iranian arrested in Qandahar accused of planning suicide attack
An Iranian citizen, resident of Zahedan, stands accused of coming to Qandahar to carry out a suicide attack operation.

This is the first time that an Iranian citizen is being held unser such charges by the government of Afghanistan.

He was accompanied by another person who is a resident of Pakistani Baluchistan.

Lotfollah Mash'al, spokesman for Afghanistan's National Security Agency, repeated in his news conference that certain elements within Iran have been helping insurgents in Afghanistan.

Leading upto this, there have been international accusations against Iran in this regard. British Deputy Foreign Minister (?) for Middle Eastern and North African Affairs accused Iran of ignoring international and UN sanctions and prohibitions against the sale of arms to terrorist organizations like the Taliban.

Iran called these allegations baseless.
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Increasing Complications in India-Iran Relations

Stratfor is running this analysis on upcoming visit of Iranian national security adviser to Delhi. Worthy of a look.

While previously I have found certain Stratfor analysis to be flawed, this video gives a brief compendium of the issues that are a drag on the indo-iranian relationship. Noteworthy among the issues that are a drag on the relationship, is the absence of the topic regarding Indian vote in IAEA against Iran.

Please play a close attention to the allegedly Saudi Arabia's offer, that it might be willing to fill the void of Iranian crude. India imports a significant portion of its crude from Iran. If Saudi says that it is willing to step in and supply the same amount of crude, it means a significant loss for Iran. Though for India this Saudi offer is not without its downside.

As far as Iran is concerned if India is able to obtain the crude from some other source, its looses a very significant lever over Delhi. With IPI being a non-starter, Iran does not want to loose the most important lever it has over Delhi.

For India, if it accepts the alleged Saudi offer, it would make India too much dependent on Saudi Arabia, which would not be helpfull for our national as well as energy security. It is noteworthy that US had encouraged Saudi Arabia to offer China the option of supplying extra crude in case of disruption of supplies from Iran.

Again it is important to reiterate that the so called Saudi offer is just a matter of conjecture. It might just turn out to be smoke and mirrors.
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^^ Kamran Bokhari mentions that with the US troop drawdown, both, India and Iran will have concerns over Taliban gaining ground.

OTOH, the Western media has of late, been suggesting that Iran is helping arm the Taliban and encouraging attacks on foreign troops.

What to make of this? Are Iran-Paki ties deepening, or is this just a temporizing tactic to hurry the foreigners out of their neighborhood on a priority basis?
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The history of Islamic Iran-West (including UK & USA) relation has been hostile to say the least.

Iran consider's the so called great Satan (i.e. USA) and its poodle (i.e. UK) as it primary enemy. Even before the Sunni/Arabic State of Persian Gulf. Taliban and its brand of Islam comes a distant third.

As Taliban is the enemy of US and UK in Afghanistan, it is conceivable that certain sections in Iran might harbor the view, "An enemy of my enemy is my friend". In international relations, as in politics, the choice is always between the unpalatable(The great Satan and its poodle) and the undesirable(The Taliban).
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Of the two undesirables, the taleban is the lesser enemy. They're easier to manage for Iran than the US and UK. So if they can dislodge the western presence first, they can always handle the taleban irrespective of their nuisance value. The west will cause tons more headache for them.
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Carl wrote:^^ Kamran Bokhari mentions that with the US troop drawdown, both, India and Iran will have concerns over Taliban gaining ground.

OTOH, the Western media has of late, been suggesting that Iran is helping arm the Taliban and encouraging attacks on foreign troops.

What to make of this? Are Iran-Paki ties deepening, or is this just a temporizing tactic to hurry the foreigners out of their neighborhood on a priority basis?
I think of two things:

1) The recent Turkey-PRC air exercises, to which Iran opened its airspace. The USA was very angry with Turkey for allowing the PRC a close-quarters examination of NATO flying tactics, equipment etc. PRC is an unkil of Iran as well as Pakistan, and has also been investing in relationships across the steppe belt (SCO with former soviet republics, and now Turkey) to secure its Western flank against Uighur irredentism.

2) The recent negotiations between the US and Taliban, with Mullah Omar allegedly representing the Taliban. These are certain to be facilitated by the ISI. If successful, they will result in US being able to withdraw from Af-Pak, and an ISI-controlled Taliban government in total or partial control of Afghanistan. The US will pay the ISI for its services (maintaining a pax Americana in Afghanistan that does not threaten the West with terrorist attacks) with very generous aid. Possibly the Chinese will be shut out of such an Af-Pak in such an event.

Pakistan is being ardently courted by both camps. However, the China-Iran-(Turkey?) camp does not want to see an end to the Afghan conflict that stops the US bleeding treasure, and consequently shuts out China from Afghanistan.

A Westward-looking China may very well be working with Iran to support *some* Taliban groups, and egg them on to continue the fight against the US/NATO.

PRC had offered, at one point, to arm and train the Hekmatyar militia. Iran would be an ideal conduit for this, if Pakistan is unwilling. If Hekmatyar finds himself left out in the cold from a US-ISI-Taliban negotiated settlement, he may be very willing to play spoiler. That may be what is being referred to by Kamran Bokhari; some factions of TSPA/ISI may be in support of it as well.
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Rudradev wrote: I think of two things:

1) The recent Turkey-PRC air exercises, to which Iran opened its airspace. The USA was very angry with Turkey for allowing the PRC a close-quarters examination of NATO flying tactics, equipment etc. PRC is an unkil of Iran as well as Pakistan, and has also been investing in relationships across the steppe belt (SCO with former soviet republics, and now Turkey) to secure its Western flank against Uighur irredentism.
Exactly, the PRC is worried about Uighurs. ISI is training them.
2) The recent negotiations between the US and Taliban, with Mullah Omar allegedly representing the Taliban. These are certain to be facilitated by the ISI. If successful, they will result in US being able to withdraw from Af-Pak, and an ISI-controlled Taliban government in total or partial control of Afghanistan. The US will pay the ISI for its services (maintaining a pax Americana in Afghanistan that does not threaten the West with terrorist attacks) with very generous aid. Possibly the Chinese will be shut out of such an Af-Pak in such an event.
I think that the US doesn't trust TSPA anymore and it also shows that Taleban isn't a reliable party to wield control of Afg. I think they are just trying to draw out theTaleban into the open and finish them off. Some quarters are viewing this as a watershed type event where Afghanistan is the new client state in the region as supposed to Pak. For the US, the stakes are too high - Central asia access. Remember why the US/KSA etc got together to defeat Soviets, because having access to Afghanistan would have meant a step closer to seizing the Gulf oil fields - thats simply out of the question for the US/West. So West must retain a presence in Afghanistan to prevent the likes of the PRC stepping in - as we now know the US will be off the streets of Afg in a few months and the operations will be different. They will retain a presence in Afg.

Look at the PRC moves, they are already preparing for plans to have a mil presence in Northern areas of PoK. I can see there is only one reason for that - thats to get into Afghanistan. So when or if the US becomes weak, the PRC will quickly take over in Gwadar and run into Afg. The PRC have a very nazi'ist expansionist type ideology and are encroaching and taking away more land from almost every border.
Pakistan is being ardently courted by both camps. However, the China-Iran-(Turkey?) camp does not want to see an end to the Afghan conflict that stops the US bleeding treasure, and consequently shuts out China from Afghanistan.
Turkey's security interests are aligned with GCC. The whole move with Iran was just for trade and I think a few countries were authorised by the West to continue trade with Tehran as sort of a carrot stick type thing. Push comes to shove, Turkey will invade Iran along with Pak. Turkey has also become the new Egypt of the middle east. Turkish army is a bit like TSPA - hard core sunni's and will defend sunni islam.

PRC know that any sort of Gulf presence, touching the Kingdoms on India's border is a red line with Washington. Even this whole Gwadar thing, PRC backpeddled.
A Westward-looking China may very well be working with Iran to support *some* Taliban groups, and egg them on to continue the fight against the US/NATO.
PRC offered Karzai the same deal as us. and offered to supply Hekmatyar as you correctly pointed out.
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So West must retain a presence in Afghanistan to prevent the likes of the PRC stepping in - as we now know the US will be off the streets of Afg in a few months and the operations will be different. They will retain a presence in Afg.
If that be the case why Kissinger type is demanding Chinese presence in Afghanistan? What purpose does it serve to the Americans?
Look at the PRC moves, they are already preparing for plans to have a mil presence in Northern areas of PoK. I can see there is only one reason for that - thats to get into Afghanistan
Whay Chinese needs to move to POK to go to Afghanistan? In as much Chinese move in POK is to stop India to foray into Central Asia and East Turkestan.
Turkish army is a bit like TSPA - hard core sunni's and will defend sunni islam.
But isn't it right that they have created coup to defend Kemalism? Now if Kemalism is a curtain to Sunni Islamism is a different matter altogether.
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Kissinger thinks the PRC is pro US and is a reliable partner. But if you go back to 2001, you can see how the US reacted to PRC's moves during the Nepal crisis. See how US responded and why the US increased deployment/training.

There are 2 aspects. Deployment in LoC area is due to regional geopolitics. Deployment in Northern Areas is more related to Afg. I suppose one could take it as cue that India should not deploy 120k troops, as PRC would then enter.
The PRC has also been annexing land in the north as some sort of easy route to afghanistan.

With regards to your 3rd point, see west asia thread in april/may time as well as SSS article about TSPA deployment.
It turns out their security interests are more in line with GCC. Turkey & TSP will invade iran in the event of any war with Iran.
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PBS article by Robert Dreyfus on the workings of the neoconservative lobby, Iran regime change agenda, and the espionage charges that rocked AIPAC.

AIPAC from the Inside | Part 2: Wrangling over Regime Change
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Christopher Sidor wrote:Increasing Complications in India-Iran Relations

Stratfor is running this analysis on upcoming visit of Iranian national security adviser to Delhi. Worthy of a look.

While previously I have found certain Stratfor analysis to be flawed, this video gives a brief compendium of the issues that are a drag on the indo-iranian relationship. Noteworthy among the issues that are a drag on the relationship, is the absence of the topic regarding Indian vote in IAEA against Iran.

Again it is important to reiterate that the so called Saudi offer is just a matter of conjecture. It might just turn out to be smoke and mirrors.
Idea is to create to false news linking India and Iran. This kind of psy ops is for the domestic US audience.
Even if false facts and flawed analysis it gives the link between India and Iran.
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Tehran Times

A new version of “Tareekh-e-Farishta” written by Muhammad Qasim Hindu Shah alias Farishta during the sixteenth century is scheduled to be unveiled during a ceremony at the Embassy of India in Tehran today. The book has been edited and annotated by Iranian scholar Mohammadreza Nasiri. The ceremony, which has been organized by the India-Iran Friendship Association, will begin at 5 p.m.

Farishta began writing this book in 1589. The book is in three volumes and describes the complete history of ancient India, from the very beginning until the year 1607. The work has also been translated into Urdu.

Born in Astarabad on the shores of the Caspian Sea, Firishta (1560-1620) was a Persian historian. While he was still a child, his father was summoned away from his native country to Ahmadnagar, Hindustan, to teach Persian to the young prince Miran Husain Nizam Shah with whom Firishta studied.
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Zardari arrived in Tehran today, leading up to an Afghanistan-specific summit this weekend.

A summit in Tehran trumps the US
The immediate focus is on somehow torpedoing the US's plans to establish military bases in Afghanistan and expand into the strategically vital Central Asian region, while also outflanking Iran in the east.
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But, Tehran also sees this as a high-stakes game with much wider ramifications than a matter of frustrating the US plans on military bases. Tehran's objective will be to scatter the cordon of the US-Saudi-Israeli alliance in the wake of the upheaval in the Middle East.

Afghanistan, after all, becomes part of the Greater Middle East and Pakistan has been a long-time ally of the US and Saudi Arabia and together the three countries - Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan - become a strategic hub of immense significance to the geopolitics of a vast region stretching from the Levant to the Ferghana Valley.

To be sure, Tehran's aim will be to forge regional unity with Kabul and Islamabad on the basis of their shared concerns and interests vis-a-vis US regional policies.

Iranian efforts will get a boost this week with the visits by the Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari and President Hamid Karzai to Tehran to participate in the international conference on terrorism at the invitation of the Iranian president Mahmud Ahmadinejad. The conference is scheduled for on June 25-26, but Zardari is arriving on a two-day visit on Thursday.
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The Saudi Arabian government reportedly made a diplomatic demarche with Pakistan, suggesting it should ignore the Tehran conference and instead attend a similar conclave on terrorism that it proposes to convene shortly in Riyadh.

The US will also be highly displeased with Karzai's decision to stand shoulder to shoulder with Iran at this juncture on the "war on terror".
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The Iranian media reported that Zardari's talks will cover the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline project, which is strongly opposed by the US, and that a "decisive step for the execution of the already delayed project" can be expected during his visit. Iran has already completed the construction of 1,000 kilometers of the pipeline out of the 1,100 kilometers portion on Iranian soil.

Iran has also proposed that an electricity transmission network be built next to the pipeline, connecting the electricity grid of Iran with that of Pakistan. Additionally, Iran has offered to sell 1,000 megawatts hours of electricity to Pakistan at a subsidized rate.
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Tehran is making an all-out attempt to impart a new dynamic to its bilateral ties with Pakistan. Tehran traditionally harbored a sense of frustration over the US-Pakistan alliance. Ahmadinejad said recently that Tehran is in possession of "specific evidence" to the effect that the US is planning to seize Pakistan's nuclear weapons.
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The Pakistani newspaper Tribune quoted a Pakistani diplomat, who is posted in Kabul, as alleging that Islamabad is being kept in the dark by the US over its recent contacts with the Taliban. "We do know that some meetings have taken place between the US officials and the Afghan Taliban in Germany and Qatar. It seems Pakistan is being deliberately kept out by the US to minimize our role in future political dispensation of Afghanistan," he insisted.

Again, Dawn newspaper quoted an unnamed Pakistani officials as saying, "On one hand they [the Americans] are talking to Mullah Omar's aide, but on the other the Taliban leader is on the list of the five men that they [the Americans] want to be taken out," asking acerbically if there could be space in the US's political dialogue for the Haqqani network as well.
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However, it will be a rush to judgment to conclude that Islamabad and Kabul are coordinating their opposition to the US. The Afghan-Pakistan relationship remains highly problematic, the trust deficit is substantial and a radical improvement in the climate of relations proved elusive.

In fact, border skirmishes have increased in frequency.
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Maybe, Tehran can lend a hand to sort out these tensions. To be sure, Iran has a strong interest at this point in bringing Afghanistan and Pakistan closer together in a purposive working relationship.
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Tehran would factor in the prevailing impression in the region that the US and Britain are working on the so-called "Blackwill plan" - named after Robert Blackwill, a US official who served in the George W Bush administration's National Security Council - who first argued that the best Afghan solution lies in partitioning that country along the main Pashtun ethnic fault line.

The plan suggested that the US should vacate the southern and southeastern provinces of Afghanistan and let Taliban rule be re-established in those parts, and withdraw its forces instead to the safe haven of the northern region inhabited by the non-Pashtun tribes, which are friendly, from where it could effectively sustain its counterinsurgency operations through special forces and/or use of air power.
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Over the past two year period, the US has been spending huge funds on renovating or reconstructing bases in the non-Pashtun regions of Afghanistan so as to bring them on par with Western standards and living conditions.
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The Blackwill plan holds the dangerous potential to splinter the Afghan nation. Afghanistan has historically held been together by tenuous bonds of nationhood. Regionalism and ethnicity continue to pose challenges to national unity.

If Afghan unity comes under serious threat, the consequences will be extremely serious for Pakistan. It will be a matter of time before the Pashtun residues spill over the Durand Line and destabilize Pakistan. Any accentuation of the ethnic fault lines or strengthening of ethnic identities in neighboring Afghanistan and Pakistan, in turn, would have serious negative repercussions for Iran (and Central Asian countries).

Quite obviously, the US is overestimating its capacity to realize its "grand strategy".
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In sum, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran have an existential interest to thwart the Anglo-American peace plan to directly negotiate with the Taliban behind their back. This is precisely why all three are strongly pitching for a genuinely indigenous "Afghan-led" peace process. Put differently, a realignment of the three-way relationship between Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran will be in the interests of regional stability. :roll:
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How these nascent tendencies play out is worthy of a close look. They are to be seen against the broader regional backdrop which shows up many currents - the "thaw" in Russia-Pakistan relations; Russia's "return" to Afghanistan; the Shanghai Cooperation Organization's (SCO) aspirations to play a formative role in Afghanistan in the post-2014 scenario; the India-Pakistan dialogue process; India's pursuit of an independent Afghan policy with accent on equations with Karzai's government; China's growing interest in contributing to an Afghan settlement; and, finally the commencement of a process that could lead to SCO membership for India and Pakistan.
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^^ MKB truly has gone bonkers with every passing article...wont be surprised if he accepts a Paki or Chibese honorary citizenship one day.

Hoping that he has not much influence left with current MEA crop!
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Iran gives up on India, pursues gas pipeline with Pak
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Tehran has given up on Indian participation in the Iran-Pakistan-India (IPI) gas pipeline project, which it is now pursuing bilaterally with Islamabad. India can join the project if it wants but Tehran’s engagement with Islamabad wouldn’t stop because India isn’t there. This was disclosed by
sources following talks Dr Ali Bagheri, deputy secretary of Iran’s National Security Council, had here with Indian officials.

They said Tehran was willing to give guarantees to New Delhi for the supply of gas through the proposed pipeline, “but India had its issues. The IPI is not on the agenda (with India) anymore because it has gone on bilaterally with Pakistan”.

For his part, Bagheri praised India’s “wiseness” (sic) in dealing with pressure from the US and the West to toe their line rather than having an independent policy on Iran. “But we cannot say whether Iran-India ties are covering the whole potentiality that exists between our two countries,” he told a select group of journalists.

The Iranian diplomat met, among others, national security advisor Shivshankar Menon and deputy NSA Latta Reddy.

“We said in the talks that both countries should explore possibilities for regional and international cooperation. Otherwise the vacuum will be filled by countries outside the region and that’ll not be good for the people of the region.”

The Iranian diplomat reposed faith in the “rationality” of the Indian leadership that he thought would take the “best decision” to meet the energy needs of its economy aspiring to be the world’s second largest. He meaningfully drew attention in the same go to the Iranian export options of China and Europe other than India.

“India has to decide how to meet its energy needs. Use of nuclear energy has become questionable after the earthquake in Japan. The demand for fossil energy is bound to increase with long term nuclear power projects on hold in Europe,” sources explained.

Security was a major Indian concern — besides pricing — in the talks on the pipeline that would have been laid across the lawless Balochistan where Islamabad’s writ is non-existent in vast stretches controlled by local tribes. But sources advised caution while considering that IPI wasn’t happening because of security reasons.

If that were so, then how was New Delhi in talks on the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (TAPI) pipeline, they asked. “The (security) concerns that exist about IPI exist with TAPI in which case the source of (gas) supply is also dubious,” they averred.

Bagheri attributed the spread of terrorism in the region to the presence of Nato and US troops. “Countries like US are at the root of terrorism in the region. They first created the terrorist groups and have come to the region now on the pretext of fighting them,” he said. “Terrorism has increased since their arrival.”

He cited UN figures to claim that narcotics production went up four times and was the maximum in areas under the control of British troops in Afghanistan.
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After persistently denying that the Iran-Pakistan-India (IPI) pipeline was facing problems due to New Delhi's attitude, Tehran on Thursday admitted that this project was “stalled'' as far as India was concerned.

Although Iran has problems with its civil nuclear energy plans leading to four rounds of U.N. sanctions, it cited the accident at Japan's Fukushima plant to stress that the role of fossil energy had become even more important, thereby indicating the need for India to revive its enthusiasm for the project.

Iranian officials, here for talks with the Indian leadership, also put the security concerns regarding the IPI project in perspective. They wanted to know if the TAPI (Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India) pipeline would not face security issues in not one (Pakistan) but two countries (Afghanistan as well). “The question is whether those concerns don't exist with respect to TAPI? The discussions on the IPI have been stalled. So Iran and Pakistan are bilaterally pushing the idea. The option for India to join is open,” said the officials.

On the security concerns about the IPI because it would pass through Pakistan's restive Baluchistan province, the officials pointed out that on the contrary, earnings from transit fees and spin-off benefits would ensure development. This would reduce restiveness among the locals because “may be you can say the lack of security had somehow stopped development. We feel Baluchistan, which forms a large part of Pakistan, will be helped by the pipeline.”

In five years, India would become the fourth largest consumer of energy. This spike in demand would come at a time when international faith in civil nuclear plants is low. “Right now, all civil nuclear long-term projects in Europe are stalled. The demand for gas is increasing. As we know the nature of the political leadership in India, we are confident they will take the best decision,” the officials said.

The visiting team is led by Deputy Secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council Ali Bagheri. He had discussions with Deputy National Security Adviser Latha Reddy and met National Security Adviser Shivshankar Menon
India for full implementation of sanctions against Iran
PTI | 10:06 PM,Jun 24,2011

From Betwa Sharma United Nations, Jun 24 (PTI) India today called for the full implementations of UN Security Council resolutions imposing sanctions against Iran without harming its legitimate economic activities, as New Delhi underlined the need to resolve the row over Tehran's nuclear programme peacefully."We call upon all sides to fully implement the resolutions this Council has adopted," Hardeep Singh Puri, the Indian ambassador to the UN, told the powerful Council of which India is a non-permanent member."All efforts should be made to ensure that legitimate trade and economic activities of Iran and other countries do not suffer while implementing the measures sanctioned by the relevant resolutions," the permanent envoy underlined.Puri said Iran's nuclear issue should be resolved peacefully through dialogue and stressed the central role of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in the resolution of technical issues concerning the nuclear row."Iran should cooperate fully with the IAEA to restore international confidence in the exclusively peaceful nature of its nuclear programme," Puri said.In June 2010, the UN Security Council passed a fourth round of sanctions against Iran for running its nuclear programme without transparency and violating previous Security Council resolutions along with the Nuclear non-Proliferation Treaty.This fourth resolution created new categories of sanctions and includes: banning Iran's investment in nuclear activity abroad, banning all ballistic missiles activities, blocking Iran's use of banks aboard and asset freezes for members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.The resolution, however, did not pass unanimously.There were 12 votes in favor but both Turkey and Brazil voted against while Lebanon abstained.
Regarding paying Iran for oil they have exported to us. India is just playing for time. Both sides know the solutions that wil work.
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“India has to decide how to meet its energy needs. Use of nuclear energy has become questionable after the earthquake in Japan. The demand for fossil energy is bound to increase with long term nuclear power projects on hold in Europe,”
:rotfl:

Every 2 bit power wants to lecture India. Why doesn't Iran give up on its pissful new-clear programme and join the international community?
Iranians and the Arabs deserve each other.
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Analysis | Ahmadinejad-Khamenei Rift Deepens into Abyss
by MUHAMMAD SAHIMI in Los Angeles
07 May 2011 00:55

Has some comic relief like:
Interestingly, the same group that is attacking Ahmadinejad for exploiting superstition has spread fantastic tales about Khamenei in an attempt to elevate him to godly status. Mesbah Yazdi has said many times that Khamenei's saliva can cure diseases. :eek: Mohammad Saeedi, the Imam of Qom's Friday Prayers, claimed that when Khamenei was born he immediately said, "Ya Ali" -- Oh Ali, Shiism's First Imam. :shock: Alam ol-Hoda, Mashhad's Friday Prayer Imam, claimed that angels with trays of food greet Khamenei's guests. :| The members of the Basij kiss his feet. :roll:
Jokes apart, the feeling on the ground is that this whole drama is so that Ahmadinezhad/Mashaei will take the place of the reformist camp, pushing out the Green Movement folks and allowing the establishment to occupy both sides of the aisle. We will see if that's true. Nevertheless, in the eyes of the average Reza, the halo around Khamenei and the Ayatollah Ozmas of the Islamic Republic has definitely seen an irreversible decrease in wattage.
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Airavat wrote:Tehran Times

A new version of “Tareekh-e-Farishta” written by Muhammad Qasim Hindu Shah alias Farishta during the sixteenth century is scheduled to be unveiled during a ceremony at the Embassy of India in Tehran today. The book has been edited and annotated by Iranian scholar Mohammadreza Nasiri. The ceremony, which has been organized by the India-Iran Friendship Association, will begin at 5 p.m.

Farishta began writing this book in 1589. The book is in three volumes and describes the complete history of ancient India, from the very beginning until the year 1607. The work has also been translated into Urdu.

Born in Astarabad on the shores of the Caspian Sea, Firishta (1560-1620) was a Persian historian. While he was still a child, his father was summoned away from his native country to Ahmadnagar, Hindustan, to teach Persian to the young prince Miran Husain Nizam Shah with whom Firishta studied.
Where are the great Thaparites - who lambast Firishta day in and day out - for portraying "fantastic" "boasting" "exaggerating" tales of Islamic atrocities on "Hindus"! Wonder which portions have been edited out or "re-interpreted"!
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5 Bushehr nuclear plant experts die in Russian plane crash
MOSCOW - Russia's top nuclear agency says that five experts involved in the construction of Iran's Bushehr nuclear plant have died in Monday's plane crash in northeastern Russia.

Rosatom said Wednesday hat the five men were among 44 passengers of the Tu-134 plane that slammed into highway near the Petrozavodsk airport.

It said the experts were on their way from Moscow to a meeting at a Rosatom subsidiary that manufactures equipment for nuclear plants.

Rosatom said the men worked for three Rosatom subsidiaries that have long been involved in the Bushehr project.

The United States and some of its allies believe the Bushehr plant is part of an Iranian attempt to develop nuclear weapons. Iran denies the accusation.
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3 of them were involved in strengthenin the Bushehr plant to face natural disasters
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Mojahedin e Khalq may be taken off US terrorism list
The State Department's review of their terrorism status, which is due to be completed by August of this year, must be conducted without the essentially illegal pressure tactics the MEK currently is employing through lobbyists, lawmakers and hired former officials.

If the group is taken off the list, not as a result of an objective review, but by virtue of their lobbying prowess, several repercussions can be envisioned.

First, the desire to de-list them in Washington seems partially driven by gravitation towards covert military action against Iran. Neither sanctions nor diplomacy have yielded the desired results on the nuclear issue, and some in Washington are advocating using the MEK to conduct assassination and sabotage campaigns inside Iran.
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Second, de-listing the MEK would spell disaster for the Iranian pro-democracy movement. According to prominent Green movement figures Mohsen Kadivar and Ahmad Sadri:

"Removing the MEK from the FTO at this juncture would embolden Iran's hardliners to intensify their repression and discredit the Green Movement by implying that it is somehow connected to the widely detested MEK terror group. Furthermore, supporting the MEK would provide the Iranian government with the specter of a foreign-based threat that could be exploited to heal key fractures within the system, increase the number of Iranians who would rally around the flag, and facilitate the suppression of the indigenous political opposition."
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Third, de-listing will put the rising Iranian-American community in a state of shock. In the last decade, an impressive civic awakening has occurred in this successful but previously politically silent community, with dozens of new groups being formed with the aim of contributing to the American democracy and providing the Iranian Americans in the U.S. with a voice. A U.S. funded and supported MEK will ensure a return to the pre-1997 era. Back then, in the eyes of most U.S. lawmakers, the voice of Maryam Rajavi was the voice of the entire Iranian-American community.
I believe MeK is still the dominant Iranian expat voice in Europe.
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Iran: The Next Generation
FOR SEVERAL weeks now, observers and analysts of Iran have been referring to an emerging rift between the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the country’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. The recent back-and-forth between Ahmadinejad and Khamenei reflects a deeper generational shift. After three decades of Iran’s clerical network dominating the political scene, the emergence of the Islamic Republic’s next generation of leaders—nonclerical, war-veteran technocrats—may well portend larger ramifications for Iran’s inward and outward orientation.
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IN THE beginning, the Abadgaran had the tacit blessing of the Supreme Leader and, unlike today, intentionally placed Iran in a state of international isolation to systemically eliminate domestic political opponents. Ahmadinejad, who had stumbled upon his anti-Israel remarks, quickly realized their potential and utilized them to effectively kill any prospect of U.S.-Iran rapprochement during his first term. With Iran’s international disputes capturing headlines, its increasing isolation provided space for a new round of domestic political fratricide. From 2005-2009, despite beneath the surface rifts among conservatives, they worked together to marginalize the reformists. Now that there are no reformist scapegoats left to target, conservative factions are now openly fighting one another. Having seen what happened to the reformists, it is clear to all those vying for power this is about political survival and the future of the Islamic Republic.
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It is now an agenda all about improving relations with the U.S.; economic improvements in Iran’s impoverished provinces; attempts at relaxing social restrictions for the masses; and championing nationalism over the clerics’ more traditional political Islam—all initiatives that the Abadgaran have paid lip service to and, if nothing else, demonstrate their radical idea of what the future of the Islamic Republic should entail—more radical than the reformists, and divergent from the Supreme Leader’s clerical network.
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Carl wrote:Mojahedin e Khalq may be taken off US terrorism list

I believe MeK is still the dominant Iranian expat voice in Europe.
Their base is being shut down and they will all be extradited to Iran probably at the end of this year. The only reason why they are so powerful is, that the Bush admin love them and the Bush era guys are doing a lot of lobbying to keep them alive. But too bad Iraq is now fully in Iranian orbit.
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http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2011/07/ ... il.html?hp
NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Iran has threatened to halt oil supplies to India in August as it presses New Delhi to solve a payments dispute that has cast a shadow since December over the two countries' $12 billion annual crude trade.

National Iranian Oil Co (NIOC), the state oil firm that supplies around 12 percent of India's oil imports, set the deadline in a letter dated June 27 to Indian refiners, sources at the refiners and NIOC told Reuters on Friday.

But Iran might be leery of losing market share in its second-biggest customer with Saudi Arabia already offering India up to 2.6 million barrels -- some 3 percent of the fast-growing Asian giant's imports -- as extra supplies for July.

"It's just their way of trying to put the ball back in the court of the Indian government so that they make a decision, because they don't want to be left hanging," said Praveen Kumar, head of South Asia oil and gas consulting at FACTS Global Energy.

"This is not something that the Iranians would like to do."

Iran, facing increased isolation internationally, and energy-hungry India have been looking to resolve an impasse triggered in December when the Reserve Bank of India ended a regional clearing mechanism under U.S. pressure.

"This is the first time they have written a letter to halt supplies, otherwise they were regular. We hope that a decision on a new payment mechanism would be taken by mid-July," a source at state-owned Mangalore Refinery and Petrochemical Ltd (MRPL) said.

Two Iranian industry officials confirmed sending a letter to Indian refiners.

"We regret to inform you that NIOC would hardly be in a position to deliver the Iranian crude oil to our partners in India ... in August 2011 unless concrete solutions are worked out for remittances of NIOC's dues," the letter said, according to two sources who have seen it.

A source at NIOC said it hoped to reach a solution soon.

"We have a very good relationship with all the refiners in India," said the NIOC source. "We want to come to a agreement on this problem."

FEELING PINCH

Analysts say Iran is putting pressure on India to accelerate the resolution of the payments mechanism dispute.

India owes Iran $2 billion for oil imports in recent months, Seyed Mohsen Ghamsari, executive director for international affairs at NIOC said on May 31 after a meeting with Indian officials in New Delhi.

"Iran has really been feeling the cash flow pinch recently from not having received most of the payments for Indian exports for many months now, so it is perhaps not surprising they are trying to pressure their counter parties into finding a solution," said Samuel Ciszuk, Senior Middle East & North Africa Energy Analyst at IHS Energy.

"Iran is putting pressure on the Indian government. But Saudi is there to offer additional volume ... So if Iran loses India, it is a loss of a big chunk of the market and it can be a double whammy for Iran."

Saudi Arabia is lifting output after Iran and others blocked a wider oil supply boost at the June 8 meeting of the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries.

A source at Hindustan Petroleum Corp said his company would increase supplies from term volumes instead of tapping the spot markets if Iran cut off shipments.

Earlier this year, Germany allowed India to pay for the oil via Hamburg-based EIH bank, which handles international trade for Iranian companies.

But India halted that conduit in early April after discussions with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, and EIH has since come under EU sanctions.

(Additional reporting by Luke Pachymuthu and Alejandro Barbajosa in SINGAPORE, and Ikuko Kurahone in LONDON; Editing by Michael Urquhart)
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India is totally stonewalling Iran in the petroleum market and has begun buying from KSA instead. I think both sides know the solution. Something happened in the last few month or so to change Delhi's mind.
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Indian govt chickening out again over Iran ---- M K Bhadrakumar.
Meanwhile, on the basis of the Indian promise that a way froward could be found, Iranians continued to supply the oil on deferred payment basis. The amount due to Iran from India as of now is close to a whopping 6 billion dollars. Obviously, it is not small matter and, therefore, Iran suggested that Russians and South Koreans are willing to handle the payment mechanism for India-Iran oil trade and Delhi might hold discussions. But Delhi developed cold feet. From all indications, word came from the top that the Americans want India’s oil trade with Iran to stop. So, that’s it. After waiting patiently for months, Iran has now reluctantly been forced to end the oil supply with effect from next month.
So, who has time for Iran? Who has time for the Indian farmer who uses diesel which is made out of Iranian ’sweet crude’. Maybe, in this era of scams, it is even preferable to buy crude from the spot market rather than through a long-term government-to-government agreement with Iran. The funny thing is that the Americans allow the european allies to buy oil from Iran. In fact, european countries’ oil imports from Iran went up by 37% last year. With a recession facing the european economies and the oil market in great fluidity, Iran is a major supplier. The US knows that europeans won’t listen even if tries to stop them from buying oil from Iran.
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shyamd wrote:India is totally stonewalling Iran in the petroleum market and has begun buying from KSA instead. I think both sides know the solution. Something happened in the last few month or so to change Delhi's mind.
shyamd ji,
care to speculate what that was!

Was it Khamenei's comments on Kashmir? Or some offer made by KSA?
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^^ Its a lot of things and it goes way back. Lets just say, there is a solution but India is stonewalling. Why do you think they are calling our bluff? They are already shifting the oil (via a 3rd country). But the legitimate route is a major source of revenue and their 2nd biggest customer is not paying up. So Iran is losing their market share to KSA. Less cash to Iran, so Iran will offer bigger trade discounts, dragging the price down further perhaps?

Its not because of Kashmir comments specifcally - they aren't really anything new. Various reasons: things we need from the US (NSG waiver, nuke deal related stuff, UNSC, IMF, WB, agri etc), US Congress wants to go for any Iran related trade (look at the companies that contracted more oil from KSA, they normally get their maal from Iran), Washington deciding to tie the noose around Tehran (you can see the new round of sanctions) recently, Khamanei is part of the reason, lots of other stuff.

The key is regime change in Tehran (it may actually be better for Indian interest in the region). The vast majority in the system are pro India, but the man wth the real power doesnt share the same views as us. See Vajpayee - Khamanei talks result. MA isn't actually as bad as media claim he is.

The KSA deal was offered to both India and PRC. India is exercising the option and KSA is happy to provide. The Indian move now basically looks like we didn't cancel the deal, but it came from the Iranian side.
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Source Questions Reports on Halt of Iran's Oil Supply to India ---- Fars News Agency.
TEHRAN (FNA)- An Informed source at the Iranian oil ministry questioned authenticity of some recent media reports that Iran has threatened to cut crude supplies to India due to the lack of an agreed mechanism for the settlement of payments.

"Foreign medias have embarked on releasing such reports based on what they have heard; it is unlikely that such a formal letter has been sent to India about a halt in oil supplies," the source told FNA on the condition of anonymity.

He further mentioned that Tehran and New Delhi had, in a recent, agreed on halting oil supplies if no solution was found on mode of oil payment, but no formal action or decision has yet been taken in this regard.
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Via Turkish bank and UAE, India will pay Iran for oil
India has finally worked out the mechanism to pay for Iranian crude oil. The three-pronged disbursement would include opening a rupee account; paying a Turkish commercial bank as well as the UAE’s central bank to clear the annual expense of nearly $12 billion.

The scheme envisages opening a rupee account for 20 per cent of the annual buy, payments in lira through state-owned Turkiye Halk Bankasi in Istanbul and in Euro through the Central Bank of the UAE.
The official said the identified banks were agreeable to the US which is imposing hurdles against Iranian bank accounts under UN sanctions.

Washington accepted the fund transfer as its suggestion of an offset mechanism — like the South Koreans and the Japanese have with Iran — did not work for India because of skewed balance of payments, he added.
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Familiar story of bribing the religious-military beast to support your rule and crush your opponents, and then pretty soon they become the actual kingmakers.
Al-Arabiya News:
Ahmadinejad vs. the Revolutionary Guards
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is in hot water these days. His challenge to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, which began after he fired the minister of intelligence in April, has provoked the deepening wrath of Iran’s political and military elite. There is even talk of impeaching the president.
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But Mr. Ahmadinejad is unlikely to go down without a fight. He shot back at Mr. Jafari by criticizing “illegal” border crossings used by government agencies to smuggle goods in and out of Iran, which is estimated to generate billions of dollars in illicit profits. Mr. Ahmadinejad implied that the smugglers were “brothers” with security and intelligence interests. His remarks have been widely interpreted in Iran as referring to the Guards, who are known to operate many jetties, crossings, and ports throughout the country. Mr. Jafari subsequently condemned these claims as “deviant.”

Ironically, the Guards played a critical role in Mr. Ahmadinejad’s election in 2005 and 2009. Mr. Ahmadinejad was once even considered to be among the Guards’ closest allies; he allowed them to amass political and economic power during his presidency. President Ahmadinejad publicly suggested that he knows their secrets, as he hinted about smuggling. And he may air more inside information if he feels further threatened.

The Guards are known to be a fractured force. Some members support the reformists, while others are loyal to Mr. Ahmadinejad. However, top Guards appear to be solidly behind Mr. Khamenei, who has ensured leaders of the elite military wing that they will be powerful long-term guardians of Iranian politics.
How does Khamenei "ensure" that the elite faction vested in the status quo retains its influence?
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pgbhat wrote: The funny thing is that the Americans allow the european allies to buy oil from Iran. In fact, european countries’ oil imports from Iran went up by 37% last year. With a recession facing the european economies and the oil market in great fluidity, Iran is a major supplier. The US knows that europeans won’t listen even if tries to stop them from buying oil from Iran.

India relationship with Iran is more threatening to US than just oil transactions
India and Iran in the middle east can push the western powers out of middle east forever

Psy ops campaign is being done to make sure that Iran India relations are always misunderstood
Source Questions Reports on Halt of Iran's Oil Supply to India ---- Fars News Agency.
TEHRAN (FNA)- An Informed source at the Iranian oil ministry questioned authenticity of some recent media reports that Iran has threatened to cut crude supplies to India due to the lack of an agreed mechanism for the settlement of payments.

"Foreign medias have embarked on releasing such reports based on what they have heard; it is unlikely that such a formal letter has been sent to India about a halt in oil supplies," the source told FNA on the condition of anonymity.
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What does the Iran-TSP pipeline really mean for us?
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Carl wrote:What does the Iran-TSP pipeline really mean for us?
That is a children game. Real stuff will come later when there will connection from every country in the middle east to India
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In my opinion,strange as it may appear,it is Iran not Pakistan, which has always been a major hidden source of global terror and a major supplier of material for dirty roadside bombs in Afghanistan .While Pakistan is definitely an active war-front between Christian(Russia on the north) and Hindu(India on the East) worlds, Iran is an Ideal Global terror base. Iran works very carefully,concealing all its moves, its deals with neighbouring Islamic states,and it keeps trying to occupy the lead role in Islamic Affairs throughout the world, sidelining Saudi Arabia.Saudi is prdominantly Sunni, while Iran is predominantly Shia,and thus this divide never seems to end, just keeps getting wider.This is what America tries to use,successfully at times,and keeps pressure on Iran.America has been very guarded in its approach towards Iran.

Let us look at some facts (mostly from wiki)

Soon after Iran's king was ousted from Iran and Ayatollah Khomeini took over Iran's reins,things began to change in the Middle East.

March 1980-April 1985: Soviet offensives in Agfghanistan.

In the west, a strong Soviet presence was maintained to counter Iranian influence. Incidentally, special Soviet units would have also performed secret attacks on Iranian territory to destroy suspected mujahideen bases, and their helicopters then got engaged in shootings with Iranian jets .[62] Conversely, some regions such as Nuristan, in the northeast, and Hazarajat, in the central mountains of Afghanistan, were virtually untouched by the fighting, and lived in almost complete independence.
The international diplomatic response was severe, ranging from stern warnings to a US-led boycott of the 1980 Summer Olympics in Moscow (in which Afghanistan competed). The invasion, along with other events, such as the Iranian revolution and the US hostage stand-off that accompanied it, the Iran–Iraq War, the 1982 Israel-Lebanon War, the escalating tensions between Pakistan and India, contributed to making the Middle East an extremely violent and turbulent region during the 1980s.

1980-2009
Iran remained the most active state sponsor of terrorism. Iran’s financial, material, and logistic support for terrorist and militant groups throughout the Middle East and Central Asia had a direct impact on international efforts to promote peace, threatened economic stability in the Persian Gulf and undermined the growth of democracy.
Iran remained the principal supporter of groups that are implacably opposed to the Middle East Peace Process. The Quds Force, the external operations branch of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), is the regime’s primary mechanism for cultivating and supporting terrorists abroad.
Iran’s Quds Force provided training to the Taliban in Afghanistan on small unit tactics, small arms, explosives, and indirect fire weapons. Since at least 2006, Iran has arranged arms shipments to select Taliban members, including small arms and associated ammunition, rocket propelled grenades, mortar rounds, 107mm rockets, and plastic explosives.
Despite its pledge to support the stabilization of Iraq, Iranian authorities continued to provide lethal support, including weapons, training, funding, and guidance, to Iraqi Shia militant groups that targeted U.S. and Iraqi forces. The Quds Force continued to supply Iraqi militants with Iranian-produced advanced rockets, sniper rifles, automatic weapons, and mortars that have killed Iraqi and Coalition Forces, as well as civilians. Iran was responsible for the increased lethality of some attacks on U.S. forces by providing militants with the capability to assemble explosively formed penetrators that were designed to defeat armored vehicles. The Quds Force, in concert with Lebanese Hizballah, provided training outside of Iraq and advisors inside Iraq for Shia militants in the construction and use of sophisticated improvised explosive device technology and other advanced weaponry.
Iran remained unwilling to bring to justice senior al-Qa’ida (AQ) members it continued to detain, and refused to publicly identify those senior members in its custody. Iran has repeatedly resisted numerous calls to transfer custody of its AQ detainees to their countries of origin or third countries for trial.
Senior IRGC, IRGC Quds Force, and Iranian government officials were indicted by the Government of Argentina for their alleged roles in the 1994 terrorist bombing of the Argentine-Jewish Mutual Association (AMIA); according to the Argentine State Prosecutor’s report, the attack was initially proposed by the Qods Force. In 2007, INTERPOL issued a “red notice” for six individuals wanted in connection to the bombing. One of the individuals, Ahmad Vahidi, was named as Iran’s Defense Minister in August 2009.

Today,Iran supports Syrian dictator Assad Al Bashar,in his pogrom against civillians.Iran supports and masterminds Hezbollah and Hamas in the Palestine-Lebanon-Israel region.
Recently Iran has advises Pakistan's President Zardari, that the real enemy is USA. Pakistan is caught between Iran,India,Afghanistan,Russia and its own monsters within. Its condition is pathetic, while Iran still enjoys clout.We still have to see which way Pakistan will go, will it accept the guidance of Iran, or will it move to save itself.
A very recent call to an Indian Muslim in UP(meerut) shows how deep the rot runs. Iran is indeed more dangerous than Pakistan, once it gets the A bomb. It tried its best to get the Nuke from Pakistan, but perhaps due to US pressure, Pakistan did not give Iran what it wanted.The day the make their A bomb, they will test it invariably over the Vatican, its sworn enemy.This is the real danger for the world, waiting in the dark mind of Ayatollah Khomeini.
These days we cannot look at terror in an isolated way,it is a global phenomenon,and has ramifications worldwide.It can emanate from Iran directly,it can emanate from iran's proxy armies in Afghanistan and Pakistan, or in Indonesia and Malaysia.it can emanate in Syria,in Chechnya, or anywhere south of Russia where Islamic States are growing up. The grand idea of the Grand Ayatollah is to re-Islamise (under Shia control) the world, and its opponents are USA,Israel,India,Europe and to some extent Saudi Arabia.In a way, the Ayatollah is imagining himself to be the Mahdi.
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Sanjeevji, Iranian GLOBAL Terror is newer than Pakistan. The terror from Pakistan started right from the time of its birth. Atrocities during and after partition ( most of it was state sponsored and organized in Pakistan Punjab), Attack on civilians in J&K 1948, atrocities on Bengal population (during partition and later in late 60s to 71), Sponsoring Khalistani terrorists, ...... and you still make the statement as the above one? Mujahideen terror in Afghanistan, ........... the list can go on.

It is only the blinkered western glasses that see Iran as a bigger sponsor of terror. Because for them, 1948, 71, 80s, 90s are not counted as terror but darkies killing each other!
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yes, the writers of Wiki (mostly westerners) hold that opinion.I was just quoting them
Let us look at some facts (mostly from wiki)
There is no denying, that from India's viewpoint,Pakistan is the #1 sponsor of terrorism. Globally both Iran and Pakistan may be seeing eye to eye and collaborating though.
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