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^^^
People should keep an eye on this parasite...Major Red propaganda being done on her FB page.....Can such things be stopped under Treason ?
I read an interview of Meena Kandaswamy recently. In that she had mentioned that her role model is Shri Arundati Roy. She is apparently so inspired by Arundati Roy's work, that she keeps a photo next to her bed. The first person she sees everyday and the last person she sees everynight is none other than Arundati Roy. Obviously, you can expect more and more of anti-India, anti-Hindu drivel from this individual. She is already gaining more popularity in TN and getting more media space these days. I am sure there will be a formal alignment with Arundati Roy and she will start appearing in (anti) National causes soon.
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About Meena kandasamy-- read what stan has posted here http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 1#p1185901

on google search she has written about her domestic violence at the hands of her husband in this outlook article.
comment on her in this website
Meena Kandasamy is immensly talented Tamil poet. Charles Antony, the perpetrator in Meena's case is a key writer and a self claimed Maoist contributing to websites called Keetru which is into moral policing in Tamil Internet and part of May 17 movement which identifies itself as a Tamil Nationalist Movement protecting 'Tamilism?'. And he is also a Nominated Member of Parliament in 'Trans National Eelam'. Meena is not just married to a person called Charles Antony who wrecked her hopes but also to his proclaimed identities. And his allies were always involved in policing women's lives and had done slander and libel, including Leena Manimekalai's ( director o Sengadal). These frauds have to answer now, if they really have spine.
she has lot admirers with goras, dalits some ngos etc etc. you know who variety.
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Army tip: ask IPS officers to fight Maoists
SUJAN DUTTA AND NISHIT DHOLABHAI

A girl carries a photograph of her father who was killed during the shootings in Chhattisgarh; (right) villager Ramaiah with a photograph of his 12-year-old daughter Saraswathi who was killed in the same gun battle. (AFP)

New Delhi, July 8: The Union ministry of home affairs is back to the drawing board on its counter-Maoist strategy, consulting military experts and comparing experiences since the June 28-29 shooting in Chhattisgarh in which an estimated 22 villagers were killed.

In one of a series of meetings, a senior officer from the Army Headquarters gave blunt advice to Union home secretary R.K. Singh: “Get your IPS officers to command battalions and lead from the front instead of making them babus behind desks.”

On the intervening night of June 28 and 29, 22 tribals, said to be unarmed, were killed in two separate attacks by the Central Reserve Police Force in south Chhattisgarh.

A total of 17 were killed in Sakerguda, 3km from a CRPF camp at Basaguda. Of those killed, 12 were under 16 years of age and two were 12-year-olds. Chhattisgarh chief minister Raman Singh alleged they were used as “human shields” by the Maoists and Union home minister P. Chidambaram has said he was “deeply sorry if innocents” had been killed.

In the Indian Army, that is involved in training central and state police forces for counter-Maoist operations, there is the feeling that the CRPF and the central police organisations are not suitably trained and lack leadership skills at the tactical level.

The Army Headquarters has also advised the home ministry that the CRPF should change from the company and platoon-level deployment to battalion-level deployment. This advice was given after a ministry of home affairs official told a military adviser that the CRPF had adopted the army’s Kashmir model of “grid deployment”.

The army’s advice was also reflected in a paper presented by a former army officer, Brigadier (retired) Rumel Dahiya, now adviser (net assessment and defence studies) at the Institute of Defence Studies and Analysis.

In a paper presented at the army-backed think-tank Centre For Land Warfare Studies (CLAWS), Brig. Dahiya wrote: “Presently the CRPF is employed in company and platoon lots and often attached to police stations or to the district police. There is no specific area of operations assigned to CRPF battalions under the command of their commanding officer. Companies are often commanded by inspectors in their 50s who neither have the energy and stamina nor motivation to fight an invisible opponent with thorough knowledge of terrain and enjoying local support.”

The senior officer from the Army Headquarters, who was advising the home ministry, was surprised to learn that no IPS officer is commandant of a battalion of the CRPF. IPS officers join the force only at the level of deputy inspector-general and upwards. Commandants are junior and are drawn from the CRPF’s own cadre.

The officer said this was contrary to the practice in the army in which lieutenants, captains and majors command sections, platoons and companies before rising to command battalions as lieutenant colonel or colonel.

This means that the men they command know that their commanding officer is worthy of leading by example.

In fact, even as the counter-Maoist operations have led to a greater interaction between the military and the police, the differences between the two types of forces have become even starker. A military adviser from the Army Headquarters has been attached to the home ministry for the past four years.

Not only the army, but also the air force has been complaining that the central and state police organisations are not following standard operating procedures or routing their requests through the right channels. Although the army is not directly involved in the counter-Maoist operations, it has two battalions deployed in south Chhattisgarh for more than a year for training.

But the Chhattisgarh government has not yet given the army maps for it to move into the “manoeuvre range” allocated to the army in the Marh region. The vice-chief of army staff, Lt General S.K. Singh, had also visited Chhattisgarh recently.

The differences in the styles of functioning were most apparent when Union home secretary R.K. Singh visited Chintalnar in Chhattisgarh.

Chintalnar is the CRPF camp just a kilometre from Mukram where 76 policemen were killed by Maoists on April 6, 2010, in the largest insurgent strike in 60 years.

Officials accompanying the home secretary spent a tense one hour waiting for an Indian Air Force helicopter to pick him up from the Maoist hotbed.

A group of about a dozen officials, including R.K. Singh, flew from Raipur to Chintalnar. The helicopter dropped the officials at the spot and flew back to Jagdalpur because the IAF cannot switch off the rotors at any location except Jagdalpur and Raipur.

“We were then communicated that since the air had become rarer because of the heat, the chopper will not be able to come on time. There was a delay of over an hour. All compulsions notwithstanding, the home secretary was left stranded at a vulnerable spot,” said an official who was part of the group at Chintalnar.

Later, the chopper could ferry back only five persons and senior officers, including inspectors-general, had to be left behind. Another smaller helicopter was requisitioned that airlifted the remaining team.

Security force officers said the IAF choppers had limited flying hours because of their compulsion on spares. Four choppers of Mi-17 class fly for security forces in Chhattisgarh. Compounding the situation, the ministry of civil aviation recently banned the Global Vectra group helicopters from flying, thereby cancelling the plan for wet-leased choppers from the company. “They were ready to fly 100 hours, which could have given us time to reach deeper for troops deployment in emergencies,” said an official.

But there is another side to this “handicap” of security forces.

Some senior police officers feel that the excessive use of helicopters have made CRPF and state police’s presence thinner on the ground. As a result, Maoists are able to block roads. “They are moving less on foot. As a result, there is little area domination. There is more reliance on helicopters to avoid casualties,” said an official from Chhattisgarh.
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"formal alignment".

He he. I'll have you know that A Roy was at her Dilli book launch last year.
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Not sure if this was posted:

Odisha:
Two Maoist militia members arrested
Two hard core Maoist militia members were arrested by personnel of Special Operation Group (SOG) in naxal-affected Narayanpatna block of Koraput district on Friday morning.

The arrested Maoists were identified as Setu Kendruka of Dandabadi village and Naga Kendruka of Chintaguda village. According to Sub-Divisional Police Officer (SDPO) of Laxmipur Y. Jagannath Rao, they were arrested during an anti-Maoist combing operation by the SOG personnel in the area.

Both the arrested persons are said to be attached to the ultras since past many years. They have more than eight major cases related to murder, attempted murder and other incidents of Maoist violence pending against them.

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Mr. Rao said they were also involved in using violent means to create reign of terror in the minds of common mass living in remote areas of Narayanpatna block.

They are alleged to be involved in the murder of Narasimha Wadeka at Dandabadi village.

Wadeka’s throat had been slit open to give him a slow painful death with an aim to create panic among the locals . The killers had left a handwritten letter at the spot claiming that Wadeka had been murdered as he was opposed to activities of Maoists and controversial Chasi Mulia Adivasi Sangh (CMAS) in the area.
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Views from the Left
Hindutva Terror

Amid claims by Malegaon bomb blast accused Shrikant Purohit that he was part of a legitimate military operation to infiltrate Abhinav Bharat, the CPM has alleged that the net of terror spread by Hindutva terrorist groups continues to widen, posing a serious threat to the integrity of India.

An editorial in CPM weekly People’s Democracy emphasised that India must display “zero tolerance” to “all forms” and “expressions” of terrorism. The article slams the RSS, saying its history and way of functioning belies all defence of it. “The issue of imparting militant training to the Hindus and the use of violence as a political weapon by the RSS has a long history. It was V.D. Savarkar who gave the slogan ‘Hinduise all politics and militarise Hindudom’. Inspired by this, B.S. Moonje, mentor of RSS founder K.B. Hegdewar, travelled to Italy to meet the fascist dictator, Benito Mussolini.” It says that “upon (his) return to India, Moonje established the Central Hindu Military Education Society at Nasik in 1935, the precursor to the Bhonsala Military School.” It accepts the RSS argument that an entire community cannot be equated with terror, but argues that the same yardstick should apply to other religions as well.

RIFT in gujarat bjp

An editorial in CPI journal New Age says that the rift in the Gujarat BJP has exposed the real face of Chief Minister Narendra Modi. It notes that all three former BJP Gujarat CMs and the lone cabinet minister from the state in the Atal Bihari Vajpayee government have come out against Modi. “All of them have alleged that Modi treats the state as his fiefdom and dumps the party and Sangh (Parivar) workers after using them in elections. The resentment against Modi is so strong that even RSS pracharaks are joining hands with the rebels,” it says.

The editorial claims that the Gujarat growth story is a hoax and alleges that people are suffering due to bad governance and corruption. It states that despite Modi’s claims, millions of dollars in FDI have not materialised: “Not even 15 per cent of the announced FDI has come. But (the) Modi government has forcibly acquired huge of tracts of land for industrialisation”. The editorial mentions agitations by farmers against forceful evictions and notes that two ministers in the Modi government were indicted by two courts on corruption charges last week.

It concludes with the forthcoming Assembly election. “With growing revolt within the ruling party and disclosures about mis-governance and corruption, Modi’s dream of a hat-trick before launching himself for the bigger race in 2014 will remain a dream... if the Congress goes for the battle as a united house and without the so-called soft Hindutva card that has failed twice in the past”.

ChHATTISGARH ENCOUNTER

The CPI(ML) weekly ML Update discusses the controversial encounter against Maoists in Chhattisgarh. It says the “horrific incident” and the state’s response to it has “exposed” Operation Green Hunt as a war on the people.

The article criticises the Union home ministry and the Chhattisgarh government, saying that while they continue to claim that most of those killed were “wanted Naxals”, “it is clear from the investigative reports of journalists and civil liberties’ groups, that there were no Maoist leaders amongst those killed.” The article questions the claims made by the state government and home ministry on the number of Naxals killed in the encounter. “While the official versions... have shifted and changed and contradicted each other daily, the villagers’ story has remained constant,” it adds.

The article concludes by calling for a high-level judicial probe conducted by judges based outside of Chhattisgarh, the resignation of the Union home minister and the scrapping of Operation Green Hunt.

Compiled by Manoj C.G.
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Abandon ops if maoists use human shields is the message that has been given today.
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so you are basically saying that the Ober gaandus ruckus after the last incident is forcing a GOI re-think?
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Yes. Strategy re-think looks like. We should aim to minimise the collateral damage - this works in maoists favour, not ours.

Don’t engage Maoists if they use human shields, security forces told
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A funeral procession at Sarkeguda village in Chhattisgarh's Bijapur district. The Union government is drawing flak for the alleged killing of villagers in an encounter between the CRPF and alleged Maoists in the village. File photo: Aman Sethi
A funeral procession at Sarkeguda village in Chhattisgarh's Bijapur district. The Union government is drawing flak for the alleged killing of villagers in an encounter between the CRPF and alleged Maoists in the village. File photo: Aman Sethi

Centre planning major shift in rehabilitation, surrender incentive policy for Naxals

Facing flak for the alleged killing of villagers last month in an encounter between the Central Reserve Police Force and Maoists in Chhattisgarh, the Union government on Friday asked all security forces deployed in the left-wing extremism affected States not to engage Naxalites if they are found to be using innocent people as human shields.

The government is planning a major shift in its rehabilitation policy for Maoists whereby these States will have a uniform surrender policy offering a financial incentive as high as Rs.3 lakh — Rs. 1.5 lakh for surrendering and the remaining amount for depositing an automatic rifle — and a stipend of Rs.2,000 a month for three years to surrendered Naxals.

These crucial points were discussed at a meeting convened by the Ministry of Home Affairs, where representatives of nine States participated along with senior security officials. Besides the changes required in the Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs) for security forces operating in the affected areas, the meet discussed the strengthening of security paraphernalia in the affected regions.

“The main emphasis of the SOPs is on how to check the Maoists’ tactic of using human shields and minimise collateral damage in action… They [security forces] have been asked to abandon operations if they find that civilians, particularly women and children, are being used as human shields,” a senior official said.

Security forces have been asked to carry night-vision equipment and resources to illuminate the area of operation to ensure that there are no civilians present when they are engaging with Maoists. They have been asked, if necessary, to cordon off the area at night and conduct the operation only after dawn. Fresh recruits going to the violence-affected areas for the first time will be given special training in jungle warfare and sensitised about local environment, besides being briefed on how to engage with Naxals by avoiding collateral damage.

At present, these States follow different rehabilitation policies for surrendered Maoists, including financial incentives ranging from Rs.1 lakh to Rs.5 lakh for each unit of arms surrendered, depending on its make and firepower. Notably, the Home Ministry announced last year a policy offering an incentive of Rs.15,000 for each deposited AK rifle, Rs.25,000 for each rocket-propelled grenade/sniper rifle and Rs.3,000 for each pistol or revolver.

A senior Ministry official said, “There is need to review the existing surrender policy [for including] with bigger financial incentives. The States have been asked to enhance the money while the Centre will also provide funds. We want uniformity for all States.” The possibility of offering Rs.5 lakh to anyone laying down a light machine gun (LMG) and Rs.3 lakh to those depositing an AK-47 rifle was discussed. The meeting also discussed ways to deal with the large build-up of the military wing of the CPI (Maoist) in Chhattisgarh.
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Yes. Strategy re-think looks like.
We should aim to minimise the collateral damage - this works in maoists favour, not ours.
No. That time is past.
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Thing about Chattisgarh & naxalism/maoism/red :

Local traders enjoyed a near complete monopoly over state's resources either directly or illegal mining or via contracts for PSUs. Sometime in early part of this century word began to spread among big business houses about resources in Chattisgarh . They followed their standard operating procedure : send a nazrana . Invite the fixer to mumbai and so on. So far so good but our local traders were very smart , they knew that one day their kamdhenu land will come in eyes of outsiders so as a precaution they were on same boat as naxals/ local thanedaar/local mininig officer/dc-sp /mla all the way reaching CM .But the pressure was coming from delhi drawing rooms so more money was spent then a bit more from both sides ie local & big businesses making bjp in dilli & state richer .Fast forward in present time ,its like this : crpf represents big businesses & local police depending on who gives the higher goes that way .
Enter the EJs again following their sop : find tribals , find argument , find discrimination , find skin color different ( darker the better easier to convert so says their sop ) , find no history or erase history so write their own history & become savior . Initially it was a bit here a bit there but now enter global mining interests & now we have the third player ie global mining . They have got EJs-jhollawallahs- A.roy/gungadins under command so they have an upper hand atleast in perception .

Enter the politics , since its non-INC ruled state so everything is fair under the heaven & earth to be unleashed & in doing so no harm if big money siphoned off from ej activity for INC's first family directly indirectly ( ysr ) but so long its money for inc trouble for bjp what better outcome for them sitting in opposition in state again inc's thinking at that time or till late ysr's time .

BJP's drawing room make now a days less noise for no one is willing to use to their services anymore as all bjp ruled states have their fixers in mumbai & delhi.

So what the future hold .......... well two of these three players need to reach settlement for any real change to happen . As for maoists/red/naxals they want their share in gravy train as of now it comes from local sources in future the same can become contractors for labor , for security & so on they are the least of trouble .
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Wonder what prompts the increasing baring of fangs by our Moothrakumar...now he bats for Maoist eye gougers and throat slitters openly!..and wants all Nandigram rapist goons, Kerala mafiosi murderers and Beijing puppets to come to their rescue..

http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2 ... o-indians/
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krisna wrote:About Meena kandasamy-- read what stan has posted here http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 1#p1185901

on google search she has written about her domestic violence at the hands of her husband in this outlook article.
comment on her in this website
Meena Kandasamy is immensly talented Tamil poet. Charles Antony, the perpetrator in Meena's case is a key writer and a self claimed Maoist contributing to websites called Keetru which is into moral policing in Tamil Internet and part of May 17 movement which identifies itself as a Tamil Nationalist Movement protecting 'Tamilism?'. And he is also a Nominated Member of Parliament in 'Trans National Eelam'. Meena is not just married to a person called Charles Antony who wrecked her hopes but also to his proclaimed identities. And his allies were always involved in policing women's lives and had done slander and libel, including Leena Manimekalai's ( director o Sengadal). These frauds have to answer now, if they really have spine.
she has lot admirers with goras, dalits some ngos etc etc. you know who variety.
Her agenda seems to be setting up Dalits vs the Upper Castes of TN. She has a couple of cases on her in Coimbatore for writing that some of the Gods worshipped by upper caste's are Dalits.

Word is She is not a Dalit herself. But exploiting this base

Some hardcore content on that Keetru website. Udaykumar has written some articles in there. The usual garbage Its very strange that he has not been arrested yet.
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/opi ... 682072.cms

Naxal trade unions quietly setting up base in Tamil Nadu factories

Industry in Tamil Nadu is trying to come to grips with a startling internal discovery that 'fringe militant trade unions' - code phrase for Naxalites - have incognito established a foothold in key industrial belts in a state far removed from the heartland of Maoist extremism.

In recent weeks, the Confederation of Indian Industry and the Employers' Federation of Southern India have, in closed-door meetings, discussed how to deal with this problem, two senior members of the associations told ET on condition of anonymity. The CII's sub-committee on human relations and industrial relations itself is said to have held at least three meetings in this regard.

The presence of Naxalites and the associated fear of violence and extremism could be a setback to Tamil Nadu, whose fortunes hinge significantly on industries. The state is home to the most number of factories (more than 21,000) and is the base for top global companies such as Nokia, Dell, BMW, Daimler and Hyundai

A member of the CII said the issue came to light when a number of small and medium companies started getting suspicious about the entry of new labour groups in their plants and decided to investigate.

They found a number of militant groups had established themselves in key industrial belts such as Hosur, Sriperumbudur, Gummidipoondi and Cheyyar as well as pockets of Union Territory Puducherry in the garb of institutions supporting women's empowerment, culture and youth.

Hosur, bordering Karnataka, is an automobile and auto ancillary hub. Sriperumbudur, where Nokia has its facility, is known for its electronics cluster.

Police Sounded Out Informally

Sriperumbudur is also the base for auto companies Ford, Nissan, Hyundai, BMW and Mitsubishi Motors. Gummidipoondi houses a slew of steel plants. Cheyyar, an upcoming industrial hub, has managed to take care of the spillover of largely auto companies from the already crowded neighbouring regions Sriperumbudur and Oragadam.
"There are concerns that there are Naxalite elements," the CII member said. "They are taking law into their own hands. They frequently resort to violence to settle any dispute. That's a concern. Traditional trade unions don't resort to such means," he said.

As an example, he cited the case of the Puducherry-based Regency Ceramics, whose president KC Chandrasekhar was beaten to death by workers in January.

ET was shown letters written to the CII by small and medium-sized companies expressing concern over the prevalence of extremist trade unions.

The CII representative also disclosed to ET the names of organisations suspected to be fronts for Naxals, but requested the information not be printed as an official police enquiry is not on yet. He said the local police have been "informally sounded out".

VR Gajendra Kumar, deputy superintendent of police in Sriperumbudur, said he has not received a compliant so far but a top police official in Hosur said the issue was being discussed, again "informally".
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oh! interesting that now, after all this time, Congress-wallahs talk about "demonizing the security forces" and "romanticizing maoists". was it not the C-system coterie which let the Naxals fester for their own dual purpose objective of opportunistically eliminating rivals, and draining society's energy? was it not the C-system which routinely intervened at crucial points to make sure that the Naxals weren't irreversibly suppressed? was it not the C-system coterie which gave the Naxals their "romanticized" glow?

I find it interesting that now the "security forces" are not to be "demonized"? this is a reversal of language but target is Naxals >> which conveniently keeps the real long term targets unaware about the real implications of "NOT demonizing security forces".
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D Roy wrote:Yes. Strategy re-think looks like.
We should aim to minimise the collateral damage - this works in maoists favour, not ours.
No. That time is past.
See the theory of the revolution and the effect of killing innocents.
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They found a number of militant groups had established themselves in key industrial belts such as Hosur, Sriperumbudur, Gummidipoondi and Cheyyar as well as pockets of Union Territory Puducherry in the garb of institutions supporting women's empowerment, culture and youth.
EJs (supported by American intelligence) are guiding Naxals in their expansion strategy -- the strategy is being brainstormed abroad, not in India (notice the placement of American consulates in South and East India). Opening NGOs for culture, youth, women empowerment, etc. is the old EJ tactic to infiltrate new areas. Tamil Nadu has been identified as the low-hanging fruit by the EJs because of the alienation of the people from the Hindu ethos due to the Dravidian ideology (which was again invented by a Bishop). Same is the reason for hyper EJ activity in Punjab in recent years -- there again EJs are trying to captialise on alienation of a section of population due to Khalistani ideology. EJs first create social discord by circulating mischevious theories (that is why you find so many of them turning "scholars" and writing books on the history of non-Christian peoples) and then use the alienation and bad blood thus caused between various social groups to further their agenda of bringing the entire population under their thumb.

EJs think long-term in terms of social engineering and don't have any problem if the work they begin takes 200 years to complete -- each generation of the EJs keeps passing on the baton to the next and continues working towards the goal. They think the work started by Bishop Caldwell of turning Tamils into a Christian nation is now nearing completion. Naxals are being used as the church's sword arm for plausible deniability. In Chattisgarh, try stopping a missionary from his work -- the next day a Naxal will turn up at your door with gun in hand.
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krisna wrote:About Meena kandasamy-- read what stan has posted here http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 1#p1185901

on google search she has written about her domestic violence at the hands of her husband in this outlook article.
comment on her in this website
Meena Kandasamy is immensly talented Tamil poet. Charles Antony, the perpetrator in Meena's case is a key writer and a self claimed Maoist contributing to websites called Keetru which is into moral policing in Tamil Internet and part of May 17 movement which identifies itself as a Tamil Nationalist Movement protecting 'Tamilism?'. And he is also a Nominated Member of Parliament in 'Trans National Eelam'. Meena is not just married to a person called Charles Antony who wrecked her hopes but also to his proclaimed identities. And his allies were always involved in policing women's lives and had done slander and libel, including Leena Manimekalai's ( director o Sengadal). These frauds have to answer now, if they really have spine.
she has lot admirers with goras, dalits some ngos etc etc. you know who variety.
She is actually an EJ carrying a false flag operation, I am 99 percent sure. Look at the religion of her divorced husband.
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kshatriya wrote:Hosur, bordering Karnataka, is an automobile
Hosur is part of Dharmapuri Dt., which if I am not mistaken had Naxal related problems in 1960s and 1970s. Walter Davaram as a young police officer spear headed the police action to send the naxals to meet their lords Stalin and Mao.

Kerala Police also has been following up on information of Maoists infiltrating tribal settlements in the forest areas (mainly around Nilambur, Malappuram Dt.) which borders Gudallur,TN.
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shyamd wrote:["D Roy"]Yes. Strategy re-think looks like. [We should aim to minimise the collateral damage - this works in maoists favour, not ours.]

No. That time is past.]
See the theory of the revolution and the effect of killing innocents.
If killing of innocents led to fall of a revolutionary movement then Islamism itself would have been wiped off and never taken off in the first place. From the founder to Imam Khomeini, the more innocents killed the more strength the movement gains.

The muslims were shaky too in India until the large scale genocides were perpetrated as being divinely justified as originating from Saudi land. The British were shaky in their foundations in India, until they killed innocents in a massive way in 1857. Then everyone fell in line and we subsequently have the hagiographers even in current times crying hoarse about positive and peaceful contributions of both Islamics from Arabia and the Brits - towards Indian civilization. Both have succeeded in gaining a permanent and substantial support base, protected with all forms of modern rashtryia threat of violence against critics - on the Indian subcontinent - after carrying out killing of innocents on a massive scale.

Which sort of ignorance or hagiography claims that killing of innocents undermines social acceptance and foundation of lasting dominance!

[Forgot our gentle neighbours - China, Talebs in AFPak, and how Muslim League gained a permanent legitimate hold by killing innocents in 1947.]

Killing of innocents onlee, onlee undermines political power if the killings are done by ideological movements seen to be distinctly pagan, and not derived from the Judaeo-Christian.
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These tactics aren't new, can you tell us a bit more about how other revolutions succeeded and how more people came out to the street and were ready to give their lives? What makes people give up their lives? Also tell us more about today's situation with the type of arms we have today and communication etc.
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She is actually an EJ carrying a false flag operation, I am 99 percent sure. Look at the religion of her divorced husband.
Highly possible. Most of her work is setting up Dalits vs Hindus and Muslims vs Hindus. Absolutely silence about EJ'ism
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shyamd wrote:These tactics aren't new, can you tell us a bit more about how other revolutions succeeded and how more people came out to the street and were ready to give their lives? What makes people give up their lives? Also tell us more about today's situation with the type of arms we have today and communication etc.
Define or give examples of what you consider to be "popular revolutions", and I can go through them - no problem at all. If you have onlee the latest rounds in the ME muslim world [they are not all strictly speaking Arab, hence its a wrong term to say Arab Spring] in mind, then each of them have preceding examples in their respective countries. Each such previous "uprising" failed spectacularly with one or two exceptions. Those one or two that "succeeded", succeeded because the military was either self-paralyzed, or was held back by external connections, or themselves sympathized with the uprising's ideology/objectives.

What proportion of the total population comes out to be killed? You can surely work out the proportion of reported gatherings to total population.
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Russia and china? Maybe Malaya?

The army/military getting 'paralysed' by defections and having sympathies is classic example of what happens in a revolution and the theory of revolution describes it!! Why do you think army's use people from other provinces to crush protests, it's to reduce the risk of defections!! What you are saying works when it's alawite vs Sunni, when it's about survival of the minority - British v Africans/imperial subjects.
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Must for everybody. Altough he is singing for CIA but whatever he said about India is still relevant.

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shyamd wrote:Russia and china? Maybe Malaya?

The army/military getting 'paralysed' by defections and having sympathies is classic example of what happens in a revolution and the theory of revolution describes it!! Why do you think army's use people from other provinces to crush protests, it's to reduce the risk of defections!! What you are saying works when it's alawite vs Sunni, when it's about survival of the minority - British v Africans/imperial subjects.
Did I mention "defections" as the route to paralysis? By the way where is this "theory of revolution" you are quoting from? It would be most interesting to see a "theory of revolutions".

Your spectrum of definitions of "revolutions" seems to extend to every possible fight over state power. Give a list of what you consider "revolutions" and also say why you think they are "revolutions", and I will go through them with you, one by one.

There were many other factors in armies in the Muslim world not taking the side of this or that faction of insurrectionists or uprising organizers - and defection was a very minor issue. You miss the point - the role of state armies, in the days of nation-states, are crucial for even uprisings to be staged - even in the most peaceful of "ways". If the army chooses to intervene with overwhelming force right at the beginning, when there is a transitional stage of testing the waters by the internal as well as external leaders of demos/gatherings/attacks - an unarmed, and non-militant population without military support from outside, never goes for a revolution. The show of numbers road onlee happens when this initial phase is safely crossed.

Population does not want to be killed, and does not come out into open killing fields unless they are practically reassured of internal or external military support - however strong their grievances might be.

"Revolutions" are a matter of extremely small, well organized groups, who also manage the covert support of sections from the ruling regime as well as from outside.

Had you gone through the confessions and assessments of real life participants/organizers/ as well as observers of "revolutions", you would have noticed that they are essentially a matter of organizing military backup - internally or promises/commitments from outside. People in large numbers only join much later - and that too not necessarily out of any focused grievances against the regime. All the individual grievances that exists even in peace time, find an outlet in common defiance or violence - once there is hope for success in that violence or show of strength.
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Meena Kandasamy is a closet EJ like Suzanne Arundhati Roy:
http://dynamic.csw.org.uk/article.asp?t=press&id=1040
Christian Solidarity Worldwide (CSW) is pleased to welcome two highly-regarded campaigners against casteism who bring unique experience of using the arts as a vehicle of protest against caste, Meena Kandasamy and S. Anand, as special guests at two private viewings of Being Untouchable, a groundbreaking new photography exhibition by Marcus Perkins.
BBC's coverage added later - check out the pictures:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11605929
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varunkumar wrote:
She is actually an EJ carrying a false flag operation, I am 99 percent sure. Look at the religion of her divorced husband.
Highly possible. Most of her work is setting up Dalits vs Hindus and Muslims vs Hindus. Absolutely silence about EJ'ism
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B, I am referring to overthrow of the state and total replacement of the system when I mean revolution. So for example, Egypt isn't a revolution as the same system still exists, but if Morsi succeeds in taking on the Army and removing the top army and judiciary then perhaps it will be a real revolution. When you say paralysis, the Tsar tried to unite the population against a common enemy - Japan to postpone the revolution. But people saw through that to an extent.

beg to differ. Syrians used overwhelming force from the beginning. Did it work? No. History will show you that he expected this and the great measures he put in place to prevent any demonstration. And people in Damascus are still coming out knowing that others have been stabbed, tortured and gunned down ruthlessly. Happening all over Syria.
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Shyamd ji,
we can go into details of how the Rus revolution took off, and we can amply show that the army's hesitation did not come because of popular anger against the Tsar. The army was split into three or even more factions. Maybe in some other post.

I am not denying the participation of larger numbers of people in seemingly open defiance of the regime, "after" a certain threshold of virtual tolerance from the regime has been seen, or that there is show/promise of external political/military support, or internal military factional backing. In Syria both the latter factors had been taking place even from before Assad's virtual formal declaration of "war within".

the army was not unified in its political affiliation : this has been going on for a very long time, from the end of the 90's - slowed down a bit during the initial "war against terror" campaign, and then once that theatre of imperialism was seen as worth abandoning [2009-2010], this internal problem within Assad's regime started up again. Assad's father came to power based on a very complicated power equation even within the Baathist movement - those differences have not gone away.
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^^ The Russian army did not do well in three wars in the late 19th century. And the Tsar did not allow more funding for them. Other Europeans were spending much more on their military. This is one reason why the military did not support the Tsar.

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Views from the Left
Bad defence

Referring to India’s “serial imports” in military hardware, an article in the CPM weekly People’s Democracy asks that the government issue a white paper on the current status and self-reliant capability of defence PSUs and other defence research and manufacturing entities, focusing not on the financial health of these entities, but on analysing the capabilities for autonomous development. It says that the gap in defence capability underlined by the previous army chief’s letter to the prime minister has provided an “additional fillip” to the foreign acquisition spree and has spurred a campaign to “undermine” defence PSUs.

On the recent orders placed for 75 Swiss-made Pilatus P-7 propeller-driven basic trainers for over Rs 3,000 crore, which it calls “most shocking”, the article states: “In all the roughly four decades since the development of the HPT-32, used not only by the Air Force but by flying clubs and other civilian establishments for training rookie pilots, could not the HAL and the department of defence production, or any other aeronautical establishment, conceive and execute a plan to develop the next generation of basic trainers, one of the simplest of aircraft? If HAL or ADE or DRDO were not delivering the goods, what was the department of defence production, with a separate minister of state, doing? And what was the defence minister doing, presiding over this vast empire? Or the scientific advisor to the defence minister? Or, indeed, the cabinet as a whole?”

Contemplating how far behind India now lags in autonomous technological capability, the article states that the current state of affairs marks a colossal failure “not only of the defence industry, but also of the political leadership and the civilian bureaucracy”.

UNDER Attack

Editorials in the CPM and CPI journals — People’s Democracy and New Age, respectively — target Home Minister P. Chidambaram for his purported ice-cream remarks, notwithstanding his denial and subsequent correction by news organisations. In its editorial, New Age criticises the UPA government on the issues of price rise and the tackling of the Naxal problem. “(The) UPA 2 government that earlier tried to justify price rise as a worldwide phenomenon now treats it as index of development,” states the editorial. While the home minister has been under attack from the Opposition for actively pursuing cases involving Sangh Parivar activists in bomb blasts at Malegaon, Mecca Masjid, Samjhauta Express and the Ajmer Dargah, the editorial alleges that these cases are “being diluted”. “All sorts of stories, involving even military intelligence, are being planted to create confusion and provide (an) alibi to the Hindutva brigade to come out of embarrassment [sic],” it alleges, while demanding the home minister’s removal.

Targeting Nitish

Recalling the Bathani Tola massacre on its 16th anniversary, CPI(ML) weekly ML Update targets the Nitish Kumar government in Bihar. “Contrary to the claims of the Nitish government and its apologists, feudal and casteist violence are in no way a thing of the past in Bihar. This is underlined by the way supporters of Barmeshwar Singh vented their fury on the day of his killing by arson and attacks on Dalit hostels in Ara, with the collusion and inaction of the police and administration,” it says. Citing data released by the National Crime Records Bureau, the article claims that crimes against Dalits have risen under the Nitish Kumar regime. “Not only are atrocities against Dalits on the rise in Bihar, Bihar’s rate of chargesheeting cases and conviction are also the worst in the country. Bihar’s rate of chargesheeting cases under the atrocities act stands at 82.2 per cent, below the national average of 90.7 per cent.”
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PRESSURE TACTICS

As the developed economies of Europe and the US try to recuperate from a crisis, they are pressuring India to open its markets further in the name of “reform”, so that their finance capital can maximise profits and in the process boost to “imperialist globalisation”, says the CPM weekly People’s Democracy. In an editorial, the party criticises US President Barack Obama’s comments urging India to open its retail sector to foreign investment. “Newer avenues have to be created for profit maximisation by international finance capital. Thus comes the pressure on countries like India to embark on a path of greater financial liberalisation... at the expense of the Indian people,” it says.

It also views instances like the Time magazine cover terming Prime Minister Manmohan Singh an “underachiever” as part of the indirect pressure tactics. The party claims that the pressure is yielding results, citing as evidence the PM’s decision to transfer “19 officers in the revenue department” and reversing anti-avoidance tax rules on foreign investments in India “within hours” of taking charge of the finance ministry.

It concludes: “What is required is a set of correct policies that can provide relief to the people while building our much-needed infrastructure. Popular people’s mobilisations must be strengthened to pressurise this UPA government to change its policy direction.”

PRICE RISE

The CPI journal New Age has criticised the UPA government’s economic policies, particularly in relation to price rise. An editorial said: “Most astonishing are the taunts [sic] the ministers and others are making about those who are complaining about price rise. Union Home Minister P. Chidambaram said that the middle class that spends Rs 15 for a bottle of water and Rs 20 for a cone of ice cream has no right to complain about price rise”.

The editorial blames the government’s “neoliberal” polices for price rise. “The prices of almost all essential commodities... have doubled during the past five years. It happened as the government amended the essential commodities act to allow unlimited hoarding and later further facilitated (it)... by allowing future trading,” it says.

The editorial alleges that the UPA is trying to dismantle the public distribution system by “shrinking” its scope, even as the food security bill is pending before a Parliament select committee.

OPPORTUNISTIC CPM

The CPI(ML) journal, ML Update, has attacked the CPM for choosing to support UPA nominee Pranab Mukherjee in the Presidential polls. The CPM politburo’s decision to vote for Mukherjee “knocked the bottom out of its deceptive ‘Left and democratic’ rhetoric and exposed (its) ‘opportunist’ kernel”, it said. Criticising the CPM’s argument that supporting the UPA nominee was in the interest of secularism and that the party did not abstain as that would have clubbed it with the Trinamool Congress, the editorial says that “the fallacious nature of these arguments is as clear as bright daylight.”

“If supporting the Congress candidate on considerations of ‘secularism’ is the consistent policy... where is the question of the party intervening in any other way? And after Mamata Banerjee declared her support for Mukherjee, the question of being bracketed with the TMC came back... In fact, had the CPM chosen to abstain... it would have limited Mamata’s capacity to manoeuvre on this issue, but then the CPM loves to live in the delusion that it can drive a wedge between the Congress and the TMC,” it said.

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Naresh Chandra panel recommends military preparedness to deal with 'assertive’ China
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 133911.cms

NEW DELHI: India has to be prepared militarily to deal with an "assertive" China even as it seeks to build bridges of cooperation with Beijing, the Naresh Chandra Task Force on national security has recommended.

The committee's suggestions for the military — details of which have been accessed by TOI — also buries the proposal for a Chief of Defence Staff (CDS), the single point military adviser to the government. Instead, it has recommended that a permanent Chairman Chiefs Of Staff Committee be appointed from among the three service chiefs, allowing India to have four four-star generals.

The panel has given a set of recommendations for reforming the national security architecture, covering both intelligence and military apparatus, as part of its mandate to review it.

It has recommended a re-look at the process of blacklisting truant defence firms, separating the post of DRDO chief and scientific advisor to the defence minister, appointing military officers upto the rank of joint secretary in the ministry of defence (MoD), creating new Special Forces Command etc.

The recommendations of the panel are being studied by individual services and agencies that would be affected by the changes. Their responses are expected to be with the government over the next few weeks.

While conceding that there has been improvement in Sino-Indian relations in recent years, the report has conceded that it is "still clouded in mistrust". The committee, headed by the former cabinet secretary, says, "There is concern about China's policy of "containment" of India, marked by growing Chinese interest in countries of South Asia. China will continue to utilize Pakistan as part of its grand strategy for containing India in a "South Asian box"."

"China's growing assertiveness on the border and in its territorial claims on Arunachal Pradesh has intensified misgivings," the committee says. "The crucial concern is whether China will become militarily more assertive and nationalistic as its economic and military power grows, or whether it will abide by the policies advocated by Deng Xiao Ping," the report says.

More importantly, across Asia there is concern that as Beijing grows "the United states will become more circumspect and accommodating in dealing with China," the panel says.

The committee has recommended that the government take an immediate decision on the existing recommendation that the Army be given management of Sino-Indian borders, and retain operational control over forces deployed in the areas.

On Pakistan, the committee suggests that it "remains both unable and unwilling to set its house in order, or put in place economic policies that can increase or sustain growth". And there is "nothing to suggest that the Pakistani military has given up the use of radical Islamic groups to promote terrorism in both India and Afghanistan." But its biggest concern is Pakistan's ambition to use Afghanistan for strategic depth. The panel has recommended that India "should spare no effort, politically, diplomatically, economically and through military assistance to ensure that Pakistani efforts to convert Afghanistan into an extremist run, pliant and client state are frustrated".

Calling for better coordination between the ministries of defence and foreign affairs, the panel recommends that the MoD set up a bureau of politico-military affairs. "The primary role of this Bureau would be liaison with the ministry of external affairs (MEA) on issues and actions having foreign policy applications," the committee says.

It has recommended that MEA affairs also consider accepting officials from civil services and armed forces on short duration (five years) deputations.
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Food Security

After deciding to back UPA candidates in the presidential and vice presidential elections, the Left parties are protesting against the government over a delay in enacting the food security law. The CPM weekly People’s Democracy states that the UPA continues to be in a state of denial in accepting the realities of poverty and misery of the vast majority of people.

An editorial says that the only way to solve the problems of hunger and food insecurity is to enact a food security law that ensures that each family in the country, both BPL and APL, gets 35 kg of foodgrains every month at Rs 2 per kg.

The article argues that the government is refusing to release the excess stock of foodgrains held in the godowns to the states at BPL prices despite millions of tonnes of grain rotting in open spaces. “The former finance minister, now the president, had told Parliament that the government would need to spend at least Rs 20,000 crores to create spaces for storing the foodgrains that will be procured in the current season. Yet, the government refuses to release these stocks and instead is seeking to export them for profit, keeping our own people hungry,” it says.

BANGLADESH BOGEY

The CPI has criticised the BJP for raising the bogey of illegal immigration from Bangladesh and blaming it for the violence that has gripped Assam, although the Congress state government has come in for criticism too. “Though the land area was simmering with tension for past few months over disputes involving land in over 50 villages, the Congress government of the state did not take any precautionary measures. It actually ignored the entire region,” the editorial in CPI journal New Age says.

The editorial argues that the BJP has charged that the root cause of the trouble is large-scale illegal migration from Bangladesh without substantiating its claims. “For the BJP, it is a Hindu-Muslim conflict. Even the Bodo leaders have refuted this assertion,” it adds. “Fact is that the affected Muslims in this region are [stet] living there for decades. There had been no massive influx from Bangladesh in the recent period... Now to raise the bogey is just a sinister move to communalise the conflict,” it adds.

BJP, the Biggest loser

An editorial in CPI(ML) weekly ML Update talks about the political scenario post-presidential election. It claims that the main opposition party, the BJP, emerged as the biggest loser from the poll, as it could have been an opportunity for the BJP to showcase the potential of the NDA as a rallying point for non-Congress, non-Left forces. “But in the event, two of the BJP’s long-standing allies, Shiv Sena and the JD(U), deserted the BJP and sided with the Congress, indicating that in today’s politics, corporate preference prevails over ‘coalition dharma,’” it says.

Claiming that “the drama of political succession” in the Congress seems ready to be resolved with Rahul Gandhi declaring his intent to play a ‘pro-active role’ in the affairs of the Congress and the government, the CPI(ML) feels the ruling UPA is now gearing for 2014 Lok Sabha election.

“By every indication, the Congress will try to use the last two years of the lame duck prime minister to intensify the neoliberal economic assault, while doing everything possible to project Rahul and corner the BJP/NDA over the issue of leadership,” it predicts.

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R.I.P. Integrated Action Plan for Maoist-affected areas

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 03971.aspx
The Planning Commission's decision to discontinue the Centre's Integrated Action Plan (IAP) to bridge the development deficit in 82 naxal-hit districts from the next financial year is not likely to go down very well with the home ministry.

The plan panel and the home ministry have been jointly responsible for the IAP since it was launched in 2010-11 as a development initiative in 35 worst-affected districts.Planning Commission member in-charge of rural development Mihir Shah told HT, "There would be no IAP from the next financial year."

According to the new plan, the central government will provide funds to naxal-affected districts under the revamped Backward Regions Grant Fund (BGRF), a flagship scheme for the overall development of 200 most socially and economically deprived districts of India.

The BGRF, introduced in 2006, was the only source of funding for naxal-affected areas before the IAP was introduced.

Lately, the IAP has come under criticism for its rapid expansion - 82 districts from 35 in less than two years - and bureaucratic approach.

Rural development minister Jairam Ramesh said recently that the three-member committee chaired by the district collector to select projects and implement them was not very effective.

"There has been no active involvement of local elected representatives. Therefore the money does not get spend where it should be."

Ramesh also said that treating all districts identically was problematic.
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This is not psyops thread but could not help noticing the term "socially and economically deprived" and not backward. And they do not want a lean and mean 3 member team to expedite the fund disbursement, but involve assortment of jholawals and politicos, sure recipe for disaster.
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from the above:
“As per the new theory of central committee members, Christianity is the main obstacle before building a revolutionary organisation. Central committee member Manoj said Christianity is an organised religion... and so for any organised revolutionary work it will become an obstacle... Left sectarian friends of AOB distributed a leaflet against Christianity in Srikakulam... Later, AOB cadres and squads who were Christian were removed from that area... When Christian people organised around us, politburo members such as Basabraj started advising us to write in circulars and pamphlets that ‘Christianity is not the solution to people’s problems’.”

another hint from above >> he slips up and says leadership treats Orissa cadres as "subordinates". so a power struggle in the cadres?
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devesh ji,
we did discuss about the realignment in our exchange on the "east coast" trends. I suggested that a portion will change over into something that we find hard to imagine now as possible on religion/ideology axis. The original source of eastern left radicalism is Hindu egalitarianism and concepts of social justice. Sooner or later, just as in the past all left movements in India are forced to split along the cultural divide rather than Marxism.
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"Maoist movement is levy-based, not ideology-driven"

http://governancenow.com/news/regular-s ... ogy-driven
Far from being ideology-driven, the Maoist movement is a levy-based movement, the rural development minister Jairam Ramesh said here on Monday. The minister was delivering the inaugural edition of the Governance Lecture series, 'Saranda and the Audacity of Hope: An experiment in Grassroots Governance’ in New Delhi

“For every ton of iron ore that you remove, a portion of levy goes to Maoists. All they want is levy. I think the Maoists are creating market economy much more than the government,” Ramesh said.

Ramesh even went on to say that if the government stops all developmental-related flow of funds to these areas, the Maoist movement will die down

“To give you a specific example, Pakur, an erstwhile peaceful place in the Santhal Pargana area of Jharkhand, has begun to attract Maoists just because mining has started there. Suddenly, the Maoists have become the champions of the tribals there,” he said.

"So-called liberated zones are the mining rich areas. The bauxite-rich areas are Maoist-affected. The iron-ore rich areas are Maoist-affected. Coal-rich areas are Maoist-affected. Why did it happen?” he asked.

Lashing out at Maoists sypathisers, he said there should not be any attempt at romanticising the Maoists. "Let us not romanticise Maoists and demonise security forces. Don't tell me the story that Maoists are not using children as shield. Two of the abductors of the Sukma collector Alex Menon were 14 year-old children," Ramesh said.
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