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DIAC Australia has India’s incorrect map, which should be rectified!
I have been made aware of a map, which DIAC [Dept of Immigration and Citizenship] Australia has put in its website. It excludes Jammu & Kashmir [J&K] from Indian map. J&K appears to be shown as a part of Pakistan.
Even Arunachal Pradesh appears to be shown outside India.
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Last heard the australian govt has removed the website with the incorrect India map.
Good job by the vigilant Indian community.
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"going down" the aussie way? 8)

No more sleeping apart in our subs

Defence Writer Ian McPhedran
From: The Advertiser
June 16, 2011 12:00AM




SEPARATE sleeping quarters for men and women on submarines have been scrapped.

It's a move the Federal Government says should offer women more career opportunities.

Both sexes will now bunk together on all three of Australia's operational submarines, doing away with the usual female-only six-berth cabins.

Defence Science and Personnel Minister Warren Snowdon said the old set-up meant that women sometimes missed out on postings because of a lack of bed space.

"This move will ensure that our female submariners access the same training and career progression opportunities as their male crew mates," he said.

"A lack of dedicated bunk space on board has occasionally led to female submariners missing out on postings ... which has in turn denied the submarine force qualified specialists."
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Australian defence's seismic shift
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-n ... 6080237210
THE biggest shake-up in the nation's defences in decades - transferring military bases to north-western Australia to safeguard from threats from China and India - has been flagged.
Read the comments as well.
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http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2 ... and-region
Australia and the region
Meet the new neighbourhood
Jun 23rd 2011, 11:14 by R.M. | SYDNEY
THE last time Australians were so shocked by the rising might of Asia was almost 70 years ago. That’s when Japan bombed the country’s northern ports and sent midget submarines into Sydney Harbour to attack American warships (unsuccessfully). Michael Wesley, one of Australia’s foremost foreign-policy thinkers, reckons it is time Australians came to terms with another shock from Asia. This time, thankfully, it should be primarily psychological. Australia, he says, has become a country of “insular internationalists”: rich and well-travelled but complacent and switched-off about the many ways in which the rising giants of China and India are changing their region. “An inversion of our world has happened without us noticing,” Mr Wesley says. In this inverted world, many of Australia’s old certainties are up for grabs, including the alliance with America that was born from that earlier Asian shock.
Mr Wesley is the executive director of the Lowy Institute for International Policy, a think-tank in Sydney. His new book, “There Goes the Neighbourhood”, has been causing some shockwaves itself. The insular internationalists it finds most worrisome are Australia’s current crop of political leaders. Julia Gillard openly professed little interest in foreign policy on her first overseas trip as prime minister last year. The only recent overseas trip of note by Tony Abbott, the opposition leader, was to Nauru—and that was just to score political points against Ms Gillard over the corrosive issue of asylum-seekers arriving by boat. Australians, says Mr Wesley, would never tolerate leaders who treated the economy or education with such disregard. Yet their lack of vision about the world has done them no harm at the polls...........
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NSW back tracks on cheap travel for overseas students

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THE O'Farrell government has ruled out transport concessions for international students, despite nose-diving overseas commencements threatening the $18.8 billion industry nationally.
NSW Transport Minister Gladys Berejiklian, in a letter to state member for Sydney Clover Moore, said concessions were out of the question since overseas students should be wealthy enough to manage without them.

"Full-fee paying overseas tertiary students are not eligible for half-fare concessions because, in order to obtain the relevant visa for Australia, [international students] have indicated they have enough money to cover living expenses for the duration of their stay,'' she writes in the letter dated June 17.

However, Dennis Murray, executive director of International Education Association of Australia, described Ms Berejiklian's position as "disingenuous'' and "penny-pinching''.

"If the NSW government doesn't value either the students or the industry, they are doing the right thing by not providing concessions,'' Mr Murray said. "It's a penny-pinching measure that has no sound base.''

NSW and Victoria, which between them attract two thirds of international students coming to Australia, are also the only two states which don't give transport concessions to overseas students.

Interest in Australia as a destination has been plummeting since 2008, a result of the high Australian dollar, visa rule changes, negative media coverage following a spate of bashings of Indian students, and increased competition from the US, UK and Canada.

The NSW economy benefited from overseas students to the tune of $6.5 billion in 2010, while they pumped $5.5bn into the Victorian economy.

Anecdotal evidence suggests the economic modelling by both states has placed estimates of implementing a concession scheme somewhere between $50 million and $100m.

Bruce Baird, himself a former NSW transport minister, considered the issue of significant concern when he conducted a recent federal review of legislation designed to protect international students.

"Many international students say they believe state governments are exploiting them by willingly encouraging the growth and income they bring to a state economy, but not providing equitable access access to services,'' he wrote in his report.

Both Victoria and NSW have defended their positions as consistent with the commonwealth's refusal to extend Medicare or Centrelink benefits to international students.

But John Nowakowski, president of the Council of Australian Postgraduate Associations, said international students not only saw themselves as "cash cows'' bringing much-wanted additional income to under-funded universities, but "marginalised'' by discriminatory policies such as transport concessions.

Indeed, in 2006 after the NSW Administrative Decisions Tribunal found that NSW transport agencies were discriminating against international students by denying them concession fares, the state changed its anti-discrimination legislation.

In the lead up to the March state election, Ms Berejiklian told Campus Review: "If we are successful at the upcoming state election, we feel it appropriate to engage with the universities and the federal government in relation to this important issue.

"This is an issue that I am often contacted about and I appreciate the arguments put to me about having the concessions extended.''

Ms Berejiklian told the HES yesterday she was happy to look into the issue "down the track'' but the "$5.2bn budget black hole means we cannot afford to offer these concessions at this stage''.
IMO, giving concession to international students should have been given serious thought years ago. It will be too little too late. Indeed NSW and VIC has seen international students as "cash cows" until now till these "cows" have stopped arriving in herds.
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NZ India deal not just free trade - also defence

http://www.3news.co.nz/NZ-India-deal-no ... fault.aspx
Mr Key revealed that New Zealand and India will also be working together to deepen their defence relationship.
India is a nuclear superpower whose armed forces number one and a half million; New Zealand's number just 14,000.
So what "deepen" actually means is now up for interpretation.
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NZ, India sign film agreement
http://www.3news.co.nz/NZ-India-sign-fi ... fault.aspx
“India is a rapidly rising player in the region, and we want to build on our already strong cultural and economic ties.”
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Kanishka wrote:NZ India deal not just free trade - also defence

http://www.3news.co.nz/NZ-India-deal-no ... fault.aspx
Mr Key revealed that New Zealand and India will also be working together to deepen their defence relationship.
India is a nuclear superpower whose armed forces number one and a half million; New Zealand's number just 14,000.
So what "deepen" actually means is now up for interpretation.
Highly developed white skin complex in Zealand.
No matter if it's new or old. :)
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The truth is that NZ is hurting after the mine disaster and the 2 quakes in Christchurch, there is no other reason for the sudden overtures by the Kiwis. They have always deemed India to be sooo far away, that it could as well be another planet.

India should never forget or forgive the dirt slinging Kiwi reporter at the CWG 2010. They are the personification of insular internationalism, nothing more.
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Klaus wrote:The truth is that NZ is hurting after the mine disaster and the 2 quakes in Christchurch, there is no other reason for the sudden overtures by the Kiwis. They have always deemed India to be sooo far away, that it could as well be another planet.

India should never forget or forgive the dirt slinging Kiwi reporter at the CWG 2010. They are the personification of insular internationalism, nothing more.
Klaus ji,

I think we should move on from being "hurt" by the whites and their comments against India and Indians. By acting "hurt" we just give them satisfaction.

There are some, even on BRF, who criticize our earlier sanctimonious talk in the first few decades to the West. We have now reached a stage, where all that sanctimonious talk would become all the more justified. And we should talking that talk. We should be putting down other countries.

We can do it to the Australians on their historical treatment of the Aborigines, to the Kiwis on their earlier treatment of the Maoris, to the Americans on how they treated native Americans, to the British on their colonialism, and to all of the above on their discriminatory treatment of Muslims. We should be hard-hitting in our criticism. We should be going out and looking under the carpets of others for their dirt.

We Indians tend to be too defensive and apologetic. It is time to go on the offensive. We should trade with them and we should sermonize to them at the same time. All this "hurt" we should leave behind.
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RajeshA wrote: We should be hard-hitting in our criticism. We should be going out and looking under the carpets of others for their dirt.

We Indians tend to be too defensive and apologetic. It is time to go on the offensive. We should trade with them and we should sermonize to them at the same time. All this "hurt" we should leave behind.
Raising the CWG issue was to criticise the Kiwi establishment. Also, very little strategic value in NZ or its immediate sorrounds. India would be better served having a few agreements with East Timor.
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Klaus wrote:
RajeshA wrote: We should be hard-hitting in our criticism. We should be going out and looking under the carpets of others for their dirt.

We Indians tend to be too defensive and apologetic. It is time to go on the offensive. We should trade with them and we should sermonize to them at the same time. All this "hurt" we should leave behind.
Raising the CWG issue was to criticise the Kiwi establishment. Also, very little strategic value in NZ or its immediate sorrounds. India would be better served having a few agreements with East Timor.
Klaus ji,

I disagree a bit. Every place in this world has some strategic value, and often the combination of a few points in the world multiply that strategic value.

As the poles melt, including on Antarctica, New Zealanders by virtue of their proximity would get privileged access to the forgotten Continent.

Even if that sounds a bit futuristic, we can't leave the Pacific Ocean over to the Chinese. We worry about the Chinese encroaching upon the Indian Ocean. Similarly we ought to start thinking of ourselves as a global power, and for that we need to be able to neutralize Chinese strength in the Pacific as well, and for that we will need dedicated naval bases in the Pacific.

New Zealand still offers us a huge fertile space to migrate to.
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indonesia, papua new guinea, east timor, NZ all can get chinese money easier. but word has spread slowly on jungle drums about how ruthless the chinese rape the natural resources and run slave mines and workshops once they get their teeth in, about how they export lakhs of chinese workers who are willing to live in shipping containers in isolated 'camps' and work 24x7.

I hope the business and political elites of these nations make a considered choice before plumping for the easy money on the table. atleast NZ being a fairly rich country can make some long term decisions.

Rajesh you are quite right that IOR is no longer a limiting factor. global economies must wield global power or cede the initiative to others. so this whole fetish about malacca and cape-of-good-hope just be treated as MILESTONES not the ENDPOINT of the journey. I am sure Sher khans navy must also have kept hawaii and french coast as mileposts once, before surging past it.
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Dhoni should have been pulled up for his remarks: Australian media

Massive takleef due to clout enjoyed by India in cricket

I shouldn't have applied the laws of cricket to Indians: Harper

"There was one LBW against Harbhajan that would have been reversed had Decision Review System been available. I also failed to detect a no ball when West Indian Bishoo's back foot touched the side or return crease. It's about as common as Indians eating beef burgers," he said
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Women thrown off bus for wearing veil
http://www.3news.co.nz/Women-thrown-off ... fault.aspx
The Consulate-General of Saudi Arabia has written to the New Zealand Government to complain after a Saudi Arabian student was told she couldn’t board an Auckland bus because of her Muslim veil.
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Meanwhile Police given power to remove burkas
New South Wales police conducting routine car stops will be given the power to demand the removal of head coverings for identification.
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Kanishka wrote:Women thrown off bus for wearing veil
http://www.3news.co.nz/Women-thrown-off ... fault.aspx
The Consulate-General of Saudi Arabia has written to the New Zealand Government to complain after a Saudi Arabian student was told she couldn’t board an Auckland bus because of her Muslim veil.
The way the driver misbehaved with the woman is bad. But NZ can also reply to Saudi Barbaria to end all the barbaric rules against women and stop being nutjobs. They can ask for freedom of women in Saudi Arabia and the denial of freedom as well as protest the harsh punishment meted out to women.
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Wikipedia says:
Women are generally discouraged from using public transport. It is technically forbidden, but unenforced, for women to take taxis or hire private drivers, as it results in khalwa (illegal mixing with a non-mahram man). Women have limited access to bus and train services. Where it is allowed, they must use a separate entrance and sit in a back section reserved for women. But the bus companies with the widest coverage in Riyadh and Jeddah do not allow women at all.
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RajeshA wrote:Wikipedia says:
Women are generally discouraged from using public transport. It is technically forbidden, but unenforced, for women to take taxis or hire private drivers, as it results in khalwa (illegal mixing with a non-mahram man). Women have limited access to bus and train services. Where it is allowed, they must use a separate entrance and sit in a back section reserved for women. But the bus companies with the widest coverage in Riyadh and Jeddah do not allow women at all.

so finally, it's a camel ride then? :D
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Australia to phase out aid to India & China.
Australia also will increase its aid to developing nations in East Asia and South Asia - but China and India no longer qualify.

"They are respectively the second and sixth largest economies in the world. Both have considerable economic capacity," Mr Rudd said.

"And both have begun their own international development assistance programs."

Australia may continue to provide some assistance to the countries through multilateral organisations and regional programs.

The government will also boost its aid to the Middle East and Africa. But the government says any future increases to Latin America and the Caribbean will be "modest".

The government says it will make greater use of multilateral partners, civil society, and Australian non-government organisations to deliver its aid.

It also will develop a rolling four-year whole-of-aid budget strategy covering the aid efforts of all government agencies under a single coherent plan.
I guess Oz is following the UK's lead on the issue (or is it the other way around?)
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Klaus wrote:Australia to phase out aid to India & China.

I guess Oz is following the UK's lead on the issue (or is it the other way around?)
It makes sense IMO, also with India joining the IMF as donor nation few years ago I believe?
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^ Absolutely. Meanwhile with Defence academies across Oz rife with sex-scandals, there seems to be no end in sight as long as the alcohol culture is done away with. I gather that Stephen Smith is clearly uncomfortable addressing the crux of the matter, even though his intentions are sincere.

In other news, Federal government announces new measures to determine ages of suspected people smugglers.
Attorney-General Robert McClelland on Friday said the Australian Federal Police would keep using the wrist X-rays but would now begin complementing them with other measures, such as dental X-rays.

They will also use "additional interview techniques" to help determine age.

The additional measures were recommended by a working group of commonwealth agencies and have the support of the Indonesian government, Mr McClelland said.
Something that Indian agencies should take note of. GoI might have access to the reports prepared by the agencies behind this commonwealth venture.

Tonga admits that it is woefully ill-prepared for a tsunami.
The kingdom plans to lodge a complaint with Canberra after its only tsunami gauge, run by the Australian Sea Level Monitoring Network in the capital Nuku'alofa, was out of order when critical information was needed.

This could have had devastating effects on Tonga's notoriously low-lying island groups.

The report also noted that in addition to local alert problems, just four of seven satellites used for receiving tsunami information from overseas were working.
Perhaps it is time for India to provide tech and assistance to these South Pacific islands (NZ, Tahiti, Tonga, Fiji, Samoa etc), in return for priority migration and trade benefits. India could obtain physical assets for launching meteorological probes from these islands in addition to many other tech ventures. The India-NZ FTA has great potential.
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indeed. as old empires and patrons fade away, smaller nations will look for new emerging powers to fill the vacuum. the strategic gains of gaining a good foothold among the political and military elites of the south pacific will be priceless.
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The Chinese are already doing this by providing aid and other development projects but of course it's mainly Chinese workers coming in and working in on the projects. In return all these small countries support China at the UN.
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Carbon tax likely to jeopardise Victoria's economy: Premier Baillieu
The report said that the Clean Energy Future package would put significant stress on the equity value of brown coal assets, creating incentives to reduce costs "which may include deferring non-essential maintenance and capital works".

This is likely to reduce plant reliability and it would be difficult for a plant under such stress to retain staff, the report said.

The report also criticised the decision to exclude Carbon Capture and Storage (CCS) from the $10 billion clean energy fund.

"Australia has a major advantage in coal and has a strong interest in putting considerable effort into developing and commercialising coal CCS," it said.

"ACIL Tasman considers excluding CCS from the renewable investment fund is poor policy and in effect reflects a government picking winners."
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The piskology of South Pacific people who call themselves indigenous these days is very different. India can only do so much, same for china. If India is seeking goodwill in Fiji with the tension between indigenous-Indian community complications, its almost impossible. India has to pick sides, and its obvious which side that is, and it has to stem the flow of Indians from Fiji into NZ and Oz by hook or crook. Its already 60-40 from the days of 50-50.

Tonga, Kiribati, Tuvalu etc. are all pristine territory with almost no Indian contact, and there is a lesson: you cant buy goodwill, you have to earn it. The closest Ind embassy must be in NZ or Oz, I can guess that much. Even Fiji with its Indian crowd has only two embassies, sure its small but you have a 40% crowd there today. That goodwill cant be bought is a lesson that the chinese are learning too, slowly may be. You can see the collective oohs and aahs from Africa. Most of these island chains are small with almost no resources, the only utility they can be is to serve as a virtual aircraft carrier in the Pa. or to deny the chinese the use of their territory as one. In any case, the amrikans vs. chini contest in this arena is funnier and more deeper. I would put my eggs in Seychelles, Maldives, Madagascar, Mauritius, Coco Is., even South Africa and get to Diego Garcia than waste my resources on useless aircraft carriers elsewhere. The near-abroad is not secure, forget far-abroad.
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Submarines give Smith a sinking feeling
Last night, Defence Minister Stephen Smith announced a review into the availability of the Collins-class submarines. The Coles Review will investigate the 'optimal commercial framework' for the Collins-class as the submarines approach their retirement in the mid-2020s. At times, only one of six of the submarines has been available, a fact alluded to in a recent Lowy Institute paper.

...

Smith's acknowledgment that proceeding with the Future Submarine is unwise until the problems with the Collins-class are resolved, suggest Australians might have to become accustomed to lacking an effective submarine capacity in the decades to come.
Though this island nation is surrounded by water their subs are not well maintained.
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Gaurav_S wrote:Submarines give Smith a sinking feeling
Last night, Defence Minister Stephen Smith announced a review into the availability of the Collins-class submarines. The Coles Review will investigate the 'optimal commercial framework' for the Collins-class as the submarines approach their retirement in the mid-2020s. At times, only one of six of the submarines has been available, a fact alluded to in a recent Lowy Institute paper.

...

Smith's acknowledgment that proceeding with the Future Submarine is unwise until the problems with the Collins-class are resolved, suggest Australians might have to become accustomed to lacking an effective submarine capacity in the decades to come.
Though this island nation is surrounded by water their subs are not well maintained.
Why spend your money when the amir-khan does it for you??
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NZ's ruling conservative National party lining up toward a 56 % vote share.
As commentators note, however, it is as though New Zealand voters have already "taken a vow" with Mr Key.

"For better or worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, voters appear to have taken a political vow to stick with National - if not until death they do part, at least until after the election," the Dominion Post editorialised on Wednesday.

National has polled extraordinarily well since it took power in 2008.

This is despite a string of risky manoeuvres, namely widespread government spending cuts, planned asset sales, slashed superannuation contributions, GST tax increases and tax changes that favour the rich.

In May, the government also unveiled the country's worst-ever budget deficit, hardly traditional vote-winning material.

Disasters, particularly Christchurch's February 22 earthquake, which killed 181 people and destroyed much of the CBD, and the continuing aftershocks, are believed to have broadened support for the incumbent.

But central to its support seems to be Mr Key himself, with his happy-go-lucky style, straight-talking manner and goofy ways.
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if the Aus opens up to on-demand mass immigration from polynesia , philipines and indonesia many of their problems will be resolved.
(1) any island territory affected by global warming can evacuate enmasse and settle in aus
(2) indonesians and filipinos will be happy to work either as guests or settlers in a nearby land and be patriotic citizens - for them the aus income is way higher up the scale. manpower for a strong armed forces will no longer be an issue and having a friendly neighbour up north is a big help.
(3) they can finally settle the continent properly and exploit its resources instead of pining for some lost figment of 101% gorahood and engrish heritage, resulting in serbs being given preference over nearby indonesians
(4) the influx of asiatic culture will suppress and squeeze out racism in due course via electoral politics
(5) plans for a new caliphate hatched by the faithful will be shelved as pop starts increasing steeply again
(6) preferential trade benefits from the countries which benefit.

am sure there will be holdouts for a 'white australia' - these can migrate off to NZ, UK or some desolate island like christmas or pitcairn island to setup their new camp.

all it takes is pragmatism. and I strongly suspect these proposals will not find favour :D
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if the Aus opens up to on-demand mass immigration from polynesia , philipines and indonesia many of their problems will be resolved.
Not so easy...........Oz has basically reached the limits of its carrying capacity already/ almost there......they lack the water to sustain any greater numbers. Most of Oz is actually desert.....or lat least, that is what Jared Diamond implies in "Collapse" IIRC
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they have the money to build large desalination plants as well as find hidden acquifiers. the northern territorys enjoy heavy rainfall, granted a lot is swamy areas. tasmania is a huge island and is green.
there are plenty of agricultural regions....yes its true that gigantic 100K acre farms cannot be created but thats not how asian farming is done - people subsist on 5-10 acre farms.

the gulf sheikhdoms have a lot worse water situation but they manage...
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:rotfl: Indian call centre workers told Australians are racist, alcoholic and backward :rotfl:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... kward.html
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Some interesting quotes from above article.
Call-center employees gain their financial independence at the risk of an identity crisis. A BPO salary is contingent on the worker's ability to de-Indianize: to adopt a Western name and accent and, to some extent, attitude. Aping Western culture has long been fashionable; in the call-center classroom, it's company policy. Agents know that their jobs only exist because of the low value the world market ascribes to Indian labor. The more they embrace the logic of global capitalism, the more they must confront the notion that they are worth less.
Arnab, who still considers himself a Marxist, told me he had come to view culture training as an inept attempt at brainwashing. "Yes, we were asked to hate everything Indian and love everything Western, but we never really took it seriously," he said. The trainers asked him to eat American fast food and listen to American music, even on weekends. One BPO installed an American-style water fountain, which confounded the employees. "But that hardly took the Indian out of us."

Arjuna was more conflicted. In a long Facebook chat, he told me he was still stuck in the same customer-support job, still verging on depression, and still single. He never could figure out how to date casually, as Americans do; nor could he bring himself to use the matrimonial websites popular in India. "To me, arranged marriage is a joke," he said.

In a sense, Arjuna is too westernized to be happy in India. He speaks with an American accent, listens to American rock music, and suffers from American-style malaise. In his more candid moments, he admits that life would have been easier if he had hewn to the traditional Indian path. "I spent my youth searching for the real me," he says. "Sometimes I feel that now I've destroyed anything that is the real me, that I am floating somewhere in between."
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"Truth is, 90 percent of the people there, you will find, they'll do the most stupid things, impulsive things. I know for a fact. At the same time, Americans are bighearted people, and the remaining 10 percent of them are smart. Bloody smart. That's why they rule the world."

true - imho.
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Singha wrote:if the Aus opens up to on-demand mass immigration from polynesia , philipines and indonesia many of their problems will be resolved.
Oz does have a workforce shortage problem but all their actions with regard to migration seem to indicate that they are in denial. Also the national character of SE Asian nations is not known for its incisive and deep thinking, it is no wonder that the Anglo-Saxons have had it so good so far in the continent. At the outset, it thus appears that the SE Asian nations are found wanting (with the Murdoch media meticulously highlighting each incident of boat interception).

Spreading Indian influence in the continent remains one of the easier options to our travails (when you compare it with solving the Pakistan problem for example).
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