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habal wrote:It is becoming increasingly clear that Naxals are the armed wing of the EJ. They are to be used as a tool against VHP, BD, RSS etc. As and when BJP comes to centre, the mutiny and rebellion will shift to east. It's a movement being kept warm, and ocassionaly attempts being made to prevent it getting out of control. It is supposed to be used later.

The nature of India's power structure is such that it is extremely lean at the top. And that makes India highly vulnerable to manipulations of this nature.

Extending that further, EJs have political, media, and armed wings (Congress, some media outlets, Naxals, respectively). Once in a while non-Indian EJs get into trouble so not to appear to be part of those wings.
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I don't think people track the real news. You have to have the orgs in sight.

Christian agency defends Britain`s aid to India
http://www.theway.co.uk/news-8728-chris ... d-to-india
Christian Aid has spoken of the vital role that British aid is playing in India after the country's finance minister reportedly said it was not needed.

According to the Daily Telegraph, Pranab Mukherjee said India does not require the aid sent by Britain's Department for International Development (Dfid) and that the amount is a "peanut in our total development exercises [expenditure]".

The comments were reportedly made during question time in the Rajya Sabha, the upper house of parliament.

According to the newspaper, more than 1bn of British taxpayers' money has been sent to India by Dfid in the last five years and a further 600 million will be spent on aid to India by 2015.

Christian Aid's senior political adviser Sol Oyuela defended the British government's continued aid commitment to India, saying that the challenges in the booming country were still "enormous".

"India alone is home to a third of the world's poor," she said. Inequalities in society that predate the economic boom mean that there are still a large number who suffer social exclusion, and are therefore unable to access these entitlements.

"India is not unique in failing to solve all its social problems overnight. The challenges are enormous, with child malnutrition running at about 50 per cent in states the size of Britain.

"UK aid to India is targeted at the three poorest states there, focusing the work in areas where poverty is very high."

Christian Aid said it "fully supports" the "significant" amount of UK aid being targeted at women and girls who are "worst off among the poor".

It said Dfid was doing valuable work engaging with India's private sector to hire people from marginalised groups.

Dfid money is supporting Christian Aid's work in India to help such communities to know their rights and what entitlements they can access.

Among the groups being helped are the dalits, who were at the bottom of the old caste system. In particular, Christian Aid is helping dalits who work as manual scavengers, cleaning human waste from latrines without proper sanitation.

"Although the practice is illegal, it still continues," said Ms Oyuela.
"One of our partner organisations helps dalit manual scavengers access government resources and find dignified alternative employment, allowing them to break free from the social constraints consigning them to such a role."

Christian Aid's country director in India, Anand Kumar, said: "India is dealing with deep-rooted structural causes of poverty such as caste, gender and ethnicity based poverty.
"In spite of the constitution of India prohibiting various forms of discriminatory practices, some of those social and cultural practices still continue exists in one form or the other.

"The role of civil society groups is crucial in helping poor and socially excluded communities gain their rights and entitlements. Dfid's support through its flagship civil society programmes provides critical support to local organisations in addressing these challenges and reducing poverty and discrimination.
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Note that a religious charity needs a "political" advisor, and targets specific socially constructed/attributed identities.
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devesh wrote:instead of worrying about some grand Jewish conspiracy, perhaps we should be worrying about a Christian conspiracy, in the NWO thread. increasingly, it seems this will be India's version of NWO. basically, placing Christians or Christian sympathizers in all the important posts in the country. of course, supposedly, 80% of India is Hindu, whatever that means.
I remember in times of Narsimha Rao and senior Bush when we tested Agni missile, Bush was criticizing so hard, then worse than him klinton came and he was onto us for testing nukes. Now I see the we have tested Agni V, yet US is silent.

Are they so confident now to have 90% media-cabinet and bureaucrats like naresh chawla etc. in key position that they consider Bharat to be next South Korea? Are they confident that we will never get out of this christian grip they have made on Bharatvarsh?

In Parag Tope ji's book he has outlined the plans of macauley to christinise the whole country, but Tatya Tope led Bharat-Bartania war put paid to his plans.

How do we break this grip? Is that going to be decided on Bji's 2037 date of 90 year circle or earlier?

I agree Johnee G the picture looks pretty depressing and disgusting.
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^^^Looks like we have to wait not only for 2037-which is merely the first stage of cleaning up - but at least until 2067 to finally start the alienation process of the ruling wheels within wheels. First is a tactical understanding with white against green, then wait and accelerate the loss of white heartland at point of origin, and clean up the white. But there might be other ways. Getting frustrated and impetuously jumping into immediate or absolute solutions is a soul lesson for me, which makes me extra cautious in urging caution on the impatient.

Last time around we were not careful, we were not looking far enough. As Marathas or as Bose, we failed partly because we were too trusting on the inherent supposed human "goodness" [not in the enemy, but in friends close at hand and within reach to slash the knife at our own jugular], and we allowed religious pretensions too much space [both from indigenous as well as foreign], and because at some stage we failed to be ruthless out of a mistaken interpretation of morality/and/or dharma.

I know what I am suggesting - the staged clearing - looks immoral in terms of its strategic implication. But we can absorb and honour the common follower, we need only to eliminate the imperialistic connections and leadership. Maybe we will be able to work out a syncretic framework that allows a common ground for people to come over with H&D intact.
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PVNR revived India:So why is he the forgotten man
Consider the view from New Delhi at the beginning of the previous century's final decade. In 1991 India was a nation of 843 million people and five million telephone lines. A billion dollars separated it from bankruptcy. The Indian map had rarely looked so vulnerable to another cartographic revision. If the flames of separatism in Punjab seemed to be simmering, the secessionist strife in Kashmir was just peaking. Hindu nationalists, a fringe force in Indian politics a mere decade ago, now occupied the bulk of opposition seats in parliament, poised to banish the secularism that had been the foundational basis of Indian nationalism.

India was holding its 10th general election against this backdrop, and it was turning out to be the most violent in the country's history. Eight hundred people had already been killed in political clashes when, on May 21, a suicide bomber assassinated Rajiv Gandhi - unfurling a fresh cycle of bloodshed and renewing questions about India's ability to survive as a nation.

Beyond its own imperilled borders, India's guardian and lodestar, the USSR, was lurching towards disintegration. Moscow shielded India from international criticism for its repression in Kashmir, maintained a crucial $6 billion trade relationship, and supplied defence equipment in exchange for goods. For a generation of Indians, the Soviet Union's demise upended the certitudes of a lifetime. Visiting India at this time, Ved Mehta felt "a sense of dread about the economic, political and religious direction of the country which I don't remember encountering in any of my other visits over the past 25 years".

The barren rhetoric of economic self-reliance and political nonalignment could no longer mask India's deep decay. Here, after all, was a colossus of a country that forced its enterprising citizens to wait three years to import a computer. How then did India retreat from the threshold of collapse to reform itself and emerge, by the start of the 21st century, wealthier and more powerful than at any point in its history?

It is now de rigueur to credit prime minister Manmohan Singh, who was then finance minister, with India's phenomenal transformation. But in a country where economic isolation was an inviolable ideological axiom, reorienting India to flourish in the new world was a distinctly political challenge. Singh was then, and is now, a competent but essentially voiceless bureaucrat, not a politician. He merits as much credit for rehabilitating India in the 1990s as he deserves blame for its failures today.

The man who led India's transformation was an unlikely pragmatist. He was 70 and had undergone triple-bypass surgery when he assumed office. A career politician, he had no political constituency of his own. There was hardly a voice that did not lament his elevation to the premiership. And yet if Jawaharlal Nehru "discovered" India, it can reasonably be said that PV Narasimha Rao reinvented it.
•••

On the night of May 21, 1991, Rao was packing up his library in his New Delhi home in preparation for retirement. After spending two decades in the capital, Rao was eager to revive the scholarly life that had been curtailed by his entry into politics.

Born in 1921 in the Muslim-ruled princely state of Hyderabad, Rao was adopted as a child by an affluent Brahmin family. In the Nizam's destitute kingdom the law, literature and activism were domains of the secure, and Rao blazed through each of them. Even before he was 30, Rao acquired something of a reputation as a freedom fighter, barrister and scholar. He trained as a guerrilla to fight the Nizam, smuggled bombs and weapons into Hyderabad, founded and edited a literary journal, translated a Marathi novel into Telugu and a Telugu novel into Hindi, and published a clutch of short stories.

After Hyderabad was incorporated into the newly independent India and then into the newly created state of Andhra Pradesh, Rao was elected to the provincial legislature. He stumbled through a number of ministries before Indira Gandhi appointed him the state's chief minister. Rao forced through an ambitious land reform act, compelling feudal landlords, many of them his colleagues in the legislature, to distribute their holdings to landless peasants. In turn, he gave up most of his own inherited estate.

Still, Rao's resolve proved to be the cause of his downfall. Indira Gandhi, keen to pacify regional bosses, dismissed Rao's government in early 1973 and summoned him to New Delhi. He was over 50, but sufficiently pragmatic to grasp the secret of survival in Congress: don't ever display autonomous drive or initiative. From then on his career was a study in fealty to Gandhi. He supported her during the Emergency, when she suspended democracy and assumed dictatorial powers. She appreciated Rao's erudition, and rewarded him for his loyalty by offering him important portfolios in her government. His colleagues described Rao as a "sphinx-like enigma", a man who was fluent in 12 languages but, they complained, spoke his mind in none.

When Gandhi's Sikh bodyguards killed her in 1984, Rao transferred his loyalty to her son, Rajiv. But Rao was a spent force in Indian politics by 1991. Retired from parliament, he was marginally involved in the general election campaign that year, issuing the occasional statement ridiculing the Hindu-nationalist BJP's foreign policy pronouncements. No one listened to him.

That changed on the night of May 21, when an aide arrived with news from Tamil Nadu: at 10.20pm, Rajiv Gandhi, the leader of the Congress Party, was killed in an explosion while campaigning in the southern town of Sriperumbudur. With the unifying figurehead dead, Congress was a beehive of competing factions.

Every potential successor had an equally powerful adversary within the party. By a process of elimination Rao emerged as the consensus candidate to "carry forward" Rajiv's legacy. No one knew that Rao had recently published an article under a pseudonym denouncing Rajiv as a brash, insecure and self-destructive politician. :mrgreen: But now Rao appeared innocuous, showed no ideological leanings, had no antagonists or friends, and did not arouse visceral reactions.


{I guess IB was sleeping.}

Powerful Congress politicians such as Sharad Pawar, ND Tiwari and Arjun Singh opted for Rao as an interim leader, fully intending to displace him after the general elections. But their differences only amplified when Congress emerged as the single-largest bloc in parliament the next month.

Rao wasted no time in establishing his authority: none of his erstwhile backers was given a ministerial portfolio of his choice and their supporters within parliament were kept out of the government. But even before his party could fully fathom Rao's unanticipated ruthlessness, he unleashed the unthinkable upon them. On July 1, Rao devalued the rupee. Within 48 hours, he devalued it still further.

He then went on national television to deliver what seems in retrospect like the most consequential speech since Nehru's address to the nation at India's birth in 1947. Rao did not aspire to grandiloquence, but the momentousness was not lost on those who heard him. "Desperate maladies call for drastic remedies," Rao warned Indians as he revealed his austerity programme. "This is the beginning. A further set of far-reaching changes and reforms is on the way ... we believe the nation, as well as the government, must learn to live within its means ... there is much fat in government expenditure. This can, and will, be cut."

He announced a plan that would substantially deregulate industry and delicense the private sector, pull down the barriers to foreign investment and provide tax concessions to private corporations, slash subsidies to farmers and curb labour activism. With blinding celerity, Rao was dismantling Nehruvian India.

Almost immediately, Rao's party rose up against him. Dozens of senior Congress members beseeched Sonia, Rajiv's widow, to take over Congress and rescue the country. The Herald, the party's newspaper, said that Rao's programme was designed to give "the middle-class Indian crispier cornflakes or fizzier aerated drinks". "That," the paper affirmed, "could never have been the vision of the founding fathers of our nation."

Rao's response was both bold and brazen. "Reversing the policy options is not available to this government anymore," he said frankly. "It is a one-way street and on all sides I have red lights." He then floated the idea of introducing organisational elections to the Congress Party. Asia's oldest political party had adopted a system of patronage when Indira Gandhi took charge. Appointments to party posts were doled out in New Delhi, and some of the most powerful leaders had no political mandate at all.

Rao, of course, was the most patent beneficiary of this system. But his proposal jolted his opponents who, after showing some early signs of rebellion, became more submissive. As if to bolster his position still further, Rao began cultivating the Hindu-nationalist BJP and fostered a friendship with its president, LK Advani.

A deeply chauvinistic Hindu refugee from the Pakistani province of Sindh, Advani was the most poisonous political figure in India at the time. :eek: In 1990, he led a countrywide rally to the ancient town of Ayodhya, where Hindus had laid siege to the 460-year-old Babri Mosque, claiming that it was built on the site of the mythical Hindu deity Rama's birth. Babri Mosque - the mosque of Babar, the founder of the Mogul Empire - thus crystallised into a symbol of Islamic oppression in the imagination of a resurgent Hindu community unshackled from Nehruvian convictions. The Babri Mosque became the focal point of the contest between secular and Hindu India. Rao extracted assurances from Advani that the mosque would not be harmed. In 1992 Advani led another rally to Ayodhya. This time, his followers demolished the mosque. And in a savage announcement of their "awakening", they butchered Muslim children and women in Ayodhya.

Rao immediately dismissed all four BJP-run governments in India, banned religious organisations, and threw Advani in prison. In a highly charged speech in parliament, he accused the BJP leader of betraying his trust. But members of Rao's own party now questioned his commitment to secularism. :mrgreen:

•••

If many Indians were suspicious of Rao, foreigners overwhelmingly cheered him on. In Germany, Chancellor Helmut Kohl considered him less flamboyant than Rajiv Gandhi. "Perhaps the country needs more substance than style at this moment," he said. In America, the Christian Science Monitor congratulated him for "negating Nehru". In Britain, the Financial Times nominated him alongside Deng Xiaoping as "Man of the Year".

Rao himself appeared to be growing impatient with the unchanging obsessions of developing countries. When Zimbabwe and Malaysia delivered blistering attacks against the West at a summit, Rao asked the gathering: "Have you come across any conference where all the speeches are identical?" But he took his riskiest step yet by agreeing to meet the influential Jewish leader Isi Liebler in 1991.

Having voted against the creation of Israel at the UN in 1947, India withheld from establishing full diplomatic relations with Tel Aviv. Indeed, Israel's presence in India was limited to a tiny consulate in Mumbai, regarded by its diplomats as "the loneliest place in the world". India had no presence in Israel at all.

A historic vote to overturn the "Zionism equals racism" resolution was about to come up at the UN, and Liebler appealed to Rao to vote for it. He passionately argued for full diplomatic relations and complained that India had treated Israel as a "pariah". Rao assured Liebler that India never equated Zionism with racism. "We sometimes have to go along with things we are not 100 per cent in agreement with," Rao said. Liebler pressed him further, but Rao refused to commit. Yet when the resolution came up at the UN, India voted for it.

As talk of upgrading relations with Israel picked up momentum, Rao rushed to mollify India's Arab allies by inviting Yasser Arafat on a state visit to India in January 1992. The Palestinian leader was lavishly feted in New Delhi and by the end of the trip, Arafat approved Rao's plans to engage with Israel. Forty-three years of estrangement between India and Israel ended within two months.

Rao aggressively renewed India's lapsed relations with East Asian states, particularly with Singapore and Japan, with his "look east" policy. He travelled to Singapore and Seoul, Tokyo and Beijing, Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok, Tehran, Paris, Bonn and London. The only two major capitals that he did not visit were Moscow and Washington.

He ignored the former and, in 1994, made a groundbreaking trip to the latter - the first visit to the US by an Indian head of government in nine years. Bill Clinton's decision to sell F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan, combined with his administration's ceaseless criticism of India over its conduct in Kashmir, provoked a furore in India. Rao was under severe pressure to cancel the trip. There was intense lobbying, too, by nationalists to assert India's independence by carrying out a nuclear test. Rao knew that a test would lead to international sanctions and derail his reforms.

He determined to focus on trade during his first visit to the US. The Americans received him as something of a revolutionary. The Wall Street Journal praised him effusively for repudiating Nehru's "xenophobia" and embracing the markets. Morgan Stanley released a report stating that Rao's reforms were moving India toward "tigerisation". A group of major US businesses - including AT&T, GE, Ford and Coca-Cola - formed an autonomous lobbying group called the India Interest Group to promote India in Washington. Bowing to the markets, Clinton assured Rao that the US would no longer air its concerns about human rights in public, even if proliferation would remain an issue. By the end of 1995, India was attracting more foreign investment than it had managed in the previous four decades combined and two-way trade with the US had jumped to $7.3 billion.

"Foreign exchange coffers are filled as never before. Industry is booming as never before. Most of all, there is a palpable hope in the air," wrote one commentator. India now seemed like a different country. The middle class became more conspicuously consumptive than ever before. The credit card industry, which had a negligible presence in India before the reforms began, expanded into a $64 million business by 1996. The creed of this emerging "New India" was captured in the advertising slogans pasted on the billboards of major cities: "I. Me. Mine." "It's My Life." "Keep Up Or Be Left Out." The editor of India Today assured his readers that the "stigma" attached to wealth and ostentation in Nehruvian India was now outdated. But even as New India erupted in self-congratulation, it had to contend with the odd spectacle of seeing its architect run from his own accomplishments. As elections approached, a different India was clamouring for attention. Its realities were captured in a report released by Oxfam. Rural poverty in the reform years had grown from 33 to 48 per cent. Ninety-seven per cent of Indians in the countryside lived without access to sanitation. The parvenus perusing India Today could now exhibit their wealth without remorse, but most Indians felt crushed by the food prices, which rose by 60 per cent by 1996 alone. A disproportionate burden of the deficit reduction programme was borne by the poor. Since the government's tax concessions to the corporate sector made it impossible to increase revenues, it resorted to cutting public investment and social expenditure. At the same time more than a dozen of the country's top-50 private corporations - the cathedrals of New India - succeeded in avoiding taxes altogether.

As the economic liberalisation picked up pace between 1993 and 1995, Rao's party was thrown from power in traditional Congress strongholds throughout the country. In Rao's home state of Andhra Pradesh, it was reduced to 26 seats in the 294-seat legislature. Campaigning for re-election in 1996, Rao omitted all references to the economic reforms. The New York Times reported that he "feared provoking a backlash among poor Indians who have had to pay more for rice, sugar and fuel". Party candidates pleaded with Rao to stay away from their constituencies.

In the elections that followed, Congress suffered the worst defeat in its history. The Hindu nationalists stitched together a coalition, but Rao extracted his pound of flesh for the Ayodhya "betrayal" when he crushed Advani's dream of becoming prime minister by having him implicated in a corruption scandal. Two years later, Sonia Gandhi took over Congress and Rao was expelled from the party. His name was gradually erased from the party's history.

Rao spent the remainder of his years fighting corruption charges dating back to his time in office. As the 1990s came to a close, he became the first Indian prime minister to be convicted in a criminal court when he was found guilty of bribing opposition MPs to vote for his government. The conviction was later overturned on appeal. Still, it was an ignominious twilight. When he died, in 2004, his old colleagues in Congress refused to hold his funeral in New Delhi. His body was flown back to Hyderabad, where it lay in state in an empty hall.

•••

Nehru's India rested on four pillars: democracy, secularism, socialism and non-alignment in foreign affairs. Propelled by accident into India's highest political office, Rao eroded his nation's adherence to each one of them. His economic reforms were implemented by subverting democracy: critical reforms were made as executive decisions, prices were hiked when parliament went into recess and parliamentary opposition was overcome by exploiting legal technicalities. The Princeton academic Atul Kohli calls this a "two track democracy", where "common people are only needed at the time of elections, and then it is best that they all go home, forget politics, and let the 'rational' elite quietly run a pro-business show".

The Indian state's commitment to secularism also collapsed. It did not occur when Advani's Hindu mobs tore down the Babri Mosque on December 6, 1992. It happened with the state's failure to rebuild it. :eek: Indian Muslims are now urged to "get over" the mosque's destruction by the very people who seek recognition of their victimhood for "crimes" committed by Muslim "invaders" centuries ago.

A decade after the mosque's demolition, 1,000 Muslims were murdered in Gujarat in a state-sponsored pogrom. A decade on from that, Gujarat's chief minister, Narendra Modi, is the BJP's putative candidate for prime minister. Industrialists and movie stars trip over themselves to pronounce him the saviour of India. India's secularism is now a self-fulfilling myth, a promissory note that is loudly advertised but never permitted to be cashed. This is the legacy of Rao's failure to crush Hindu nationalism when it went to war against the Indian state in Ayodhya. :eek:

Rao was the first Indian leader who made foreign industrialists feel as if they were in the presence of a "corporate chief executive", not a politician - an early incarnation of praise which, sanctified by decades of repetition at Davos, has become the highest aspiration of most third-world "modernisers". But in applauding his revolution for supposedly correcting the failures of Nehru, the cheerleaders of New India have ignored the seeds of discontent planted by Rao. They have now matured. Across India's most impoverished regions, armed Maoists are waging guerrilla warfare against the state.

India's progress does not manifest itself in these troubled villages in the form of clean water or electricity or schools or sanitation. It appears in the shape of heavy machinery sent to extract prized minerals from tribal lands and the arms of paramilitary forces used to displace villagers. The poet Dom Moraes once wrote that India had "the most brutally stupid middle class in the world". Illustrating his claim, an overwhelming majority of media commentators uncritically cheer on the state, giving rise to a false idea of symmetry of power between the Maoists and the government. This is also Rao's legacy.

Rao led India out of one of the one the worst crises in its history, opened it up to the world, dismantled corrosive old orthodoxies, and pursued unthinkable new friendships. In doing so, he corrupted India's democracy and crippled its commitment to secularism. He left behind an India that is wealthier (but more unequal), confident (but less empathetic), and integrated into the world economy (but closed to its poorer citizens).

{I would blame his party and successors. He had only one term and he did a miracle in that time.}

A man without any known ideological leanings, Rao had no difficulty believing that the lofty ideals of India's founders had simply run their course. But in the end even he was dismayed by the avarice and apathy of his own creation. In one of his last public speeches, he bewailed his successors' rush to sell public assets and reminded Indians that "trickle-down economics - the practice of cutting taxes for the rich, hoping it would benefit the poor - does not work."

He is now reviled by his own party, forgotten by the world and neglected by India. He remains the only departed prime minister to be denied a memorial in the country's capital. But today's India, for better or for ill, is Rao's India.

Kapil Komireddi is an Indian freelance writer. His work has appeared in the Boston Globe, Foreign Policy and the Los Angeles Times.
Kapil Komireddi does a good hatchet job on PVNR when the ills of India are due to Sonia Gandhi led INC. All the 2G scams pale before all the corruption in the last millenium.

All the denials are due to SG led INC and fake seculars who benefitted from PVNR's regime.

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We are all enjoying "Politics no barred" efforts of Sir PV narasimha rao. manmaohan singh looked like a tiger in his presence and PV motivated manmohan singh to propose, implement radical changes for survival of India. (the same manmohan looks and acts like a snail in shadow of Sonia and rahul) Had it not been, we would not have been 5th happiest country in world now. Yes, he was not a chmacha of Congress dynasty family and if you recollect his tenure, the dyanasty family was afraid to face him or see him in his eyes. Its no surprising that he was illtreated but any sensible person in India will continue to appreciate the risk taken by him and made India a successful country. Who needs statutes on roads when he is appreciated and praised and remembered as "father of Developing modern India"
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After the transfer of power in 47, so far only 2 nationalists had the full oppertunity to lead India . Rao and Vajpayee. LBS rule was short lived. If India is happy and confident today , 70% credit goes to their policies. India's intrnal and external threats are the result of JLN's elite behaviour in arrogance , fears and lack of confidence in indian's ability to handle the Islamists.
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When I read the article by Komireddi, I was certain it was some Britisher or American working for the Financial Post, the Economist, Wall Street Journal or New York Times. How we can be fooled. It is simply incredible the extent some Indians/persons of Indian origin can go, to sound so unattached to India, so anti-Hindu, and devoid of any soulful feeling toward their country or country of origin.
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Read Kapil Komireddy's article on Sathya Sai Baba, most of it is in a near-mocking tone. Note the last line --> "His work has appeared in the Boston Globe, Foreign Policy and the Los Angeles Times". This is an agmark $uck-up-to-gora dude. Most of his articles are from a westerner's perspective. His pseudo-secularist credentials are perfect. Perhaps he did not have time to criticize David Cameron on his "UK is a Christian nation" comment. That one comment was a rude shock to tonnes of pseudo-secularists who worked so hard to get a pat from their white masters but in the end the white masters themselves ended failing them. Sigh!
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GOAKI Tom Boy HMV

The High Price India Pays to Maintain the Status Quo
The government has denied that it is paralyzed. It has conveyed that, considering its circumstances, it has been at once savvy and humane. What the government has been unable to say is that it knows what must be done but cannot control its enormous welfare spending or take tough long-term economic measures because it does not want to infuriate the what might be termed the Greeks among the Indians — the rural voters. Unlike the actual Greeks, whose fiscal ways have exasperated some of their European Union partners, they cannot be kicked out of the union. In a way, they are the union. Economists and the middle class are livid. They want the Indian government to be far less profligate and populist. How long must they carry the burden of the “Greeks”? The economist Surjit Bhalla, who has begun a newspaper column called “India’s Descent,” wrote in its first installment that “India’s decline” was caused by the “socialist policies” of the government — “policies that would embarrass even Hugo Chávez,” the populist president of Venezuela. Dr. Bhalla reprimanded the government for the “outlandishly high procurement prices” it pays for goods from farmers and its “wasteful welfare expenditures.” There are good reasons why the voters, despite all their grousing, trust the political class more than the middle class and businessmen. For too long, they have been exploited by those above them and treated very poorly. Many of them have been tricked into selling their land cheaply. So now they stand united, ready to break into violence at any moment, making land acquisition for industries and infrastructure complex, expensive and unpredictable
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Views from the Right
BLAME CONGRESS

The latest issue of the RSS weekly Organiser blames the Congress for the large-scale corruption in the government and the failure to tackle the economy. “The government’s flagship projects, be it NRHM or the NREGA, are all narrations in corruption. The much-touted farmer waiver is a hoax played on both the farmer and the taxpayer. It has not reached the intended beneficiaries though the money has vanished from the treasury... For the economic ills of India, the finance minister blames Greece, a nation half the size of one Indian state... There has never before been such despondency and despair in the hearts of the people of this country as one is suffering now. And the Congress party and its leadership alone is responsible for this,” it says in its editorial.

The editorial singles out Home Minister P. Chidambaram, charging that the “veteran of several hit-and-run scandals continues to be a senior member of the cabinet”. It also says: “the corruption in (the) defence sector revealed by the army chief is but a tip of the iceberg. Even so, its magnitude is unheard of... Interestingly, all the scams of the last eight years, when investigated a little deeper lead to the doors of the Mother Superior of Congress party. She, like P. Chidambaram, with deftness and solvency is brazening it out.”

UNDERSTANDING GOLWARKaR

The Organiser has started serialising articles on M. S. Golwarkar, the top RSS ideologue popularly known as Guruji. The articles, written by S. Gurumurthy, are an attempt to analyse and interpret the thoughts of Golwarkar, who was instrumental in laying the ideological foundations of the RSS.

Gurumurthy says that Golwarkar’s thoughts and expositions were questioned and criticised during his lifetime. He likens him to a seer who spoke ahead of time and contends that different terms are used to define the RSS movement by Indian and Western commentators, even though such terms may seem “inappropriate category for study of Hindu religious phenomena”.

He says: “Hinduism is without foundation texts, defined dogmas, and institutional structures that are characteristic of most varieties of fundamentalism in other belief systems. This point of view finds frequent expression in modern Indian thinking, with emphasis on (the) Hindu view of life as grounded in spiritual experience that is essentially rational and humanistic”. The article argues that Golwarkar’s views had this clarity, which he articulated through his speeches to followers. Gurumurthy claims that the Fundamentalism Project of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences in 1995 concurred with this view, and quotes the essay “The Functioning of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh: To Define the Hindu Nation” in the, five-volume Fundamentalism Project as proof.

INTERNAL SECURITY

The Panchjanya in its latest editorial has criticised the UPA government for failing to tackle the internal security situation in the country, underscored by the spurt in Naxal activity. It alleges that the UPA is playing politics and trying to blame state governments while also trying to dilute the federal structure through acts like the NCTC. The editorial argues that the Centre has not lent enough support to the Chhattisgarh government in fighting Naxals, who it had attempted to corner through programmes like Salwa Judum. It also alleges that the UPA attacked the Raman Singh government through individuals like Swami Agnivesh, and such indirect encouragement led to Naxalism gaining in states like Chhattisgarh.
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"This is an agmark $uck-up-to-gora dude. Most of his articles are from a westerner's perspective. His pseudo-secularist credentials are perfect. "

It would be interesting to compare the character of writing by ethnic Indians in the US/UK with those Indians writing in other developing countries, assuming there are some. What for instance would an Indian writing from Mexico, Mongolia or Mozambique say about India? If the tenor is the same as the Komireddis, Mishras, Josephs et al, then at least you can say that Indians are pretty consistent, though still sour. But if the style is wholly different, then the suck-up-to-the-goras motivation acquires greater legitimacy.
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abhishek_sharma wrote:How Markets Crowd Out Morals
Abhishek-ji you post some of the most meaningful and indepth content, however you only post them as a single line links. I (We?) would love to know what you thought about some of the ones you have read. Please do post your views and comments as well.

This one is particular is just brilliant and a keeper. This IMVHO should be cross posted in many other threads (nuclear/indian economy?) to give a counter perspective to some of our Indian "khan can do no wrong" market is Gawd e-con-o-mists. (Lard Desai types)
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ajee, I am nanha mujahid onlee. I don't have high-funda opinions.

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From the Urdu Press
UPA 2 IS 3

Rashtriya Sahara writes in its May 22 editorial: “UPA 2 had started with great fanfare. Many people, including Prime Minister Manmohan Singh had the impression that after ‘riddance’ from the Left Front [sic] the government will not have to face any difficulty and a new door for expanding market and economic development will be opened easily. But it proved to be false optimism... In the second phase, Didi, threatening the government with a checkmate time and again, forced the government to yield.”

The editorial adds: “rising prices have made life difficult for the aam aadmi, whose help was crucial in bringing the UPA to power. Unfortunately... price rise has not ended, and it is feared that the prices will rise further... It is a blessing for the UPA that its adversary, the NDA, particularly the BJP, is enmeshed in a serious crisis and lack of cohesion. But it is not wise to consider (the) other’s weakness as one’s own strength.”

The daily Inquilab, on May 20, writes: “Many scams... have badly damaged the image of the UPA in the last three years. Undoubtedly, there have been no questions on the gentle nature (sharafat) of the PM so far. But the job of the PM is not only to demonstrate gentlemanliness. It also includes security of the country and its exchequer... But, one has to say with great regret that there is a loot all over under the leadership of an expert economist.” It adds: “From the viewpoint of a Muslim, one gets disappointed. The UPA highlighted the Sachar Committee report and demonstrated the status of Indian Muslims to the whole world, showing that their plight was worse than that of the Dalits. But it is not seen as taking any steps to improve their condition.”

JAMHOORIYAT 60

Hyderabad’s Munsif, in its editorial on May 15 writes about two important features of our Parliament through the years: “The first Parliament was established after elections following Independence and a long struggle. Yet the average age of its members was 45 years and eight months. But the average age of members of (Lok Sabha) has risen to 64 years. Seniority and experience have their own importance. But in a country being described as young on the basis of population data, why should the same type of environment not come up in Parliament? Another significant difference is that in the first Parliament, there were fewer professional politicians... whereas in the 15th Lok Sabha there is a majority of members who are professional politicians and taking to politics as their inheritance... This situation can be discussed consistently even outside Parliament because despite its dominant position, Parliament alone is not democracy. But it is definitely the centre of democracy.”

The Delhi-based daily, Jadeed Khabar, in its editorial on May 15, writes: “At the time of Constitution-making, reservation was accorded to some extremely backward sections of society to give them the opportunity to move ahead... assurances were given to other sections of the people to provide opportunities. But we see in the 60 years of our parliamentary system that justice was not done to those who had been promised equal opportunities. That is why the condition of these sections is deteriorating. The biggest segment among these sections are the Muslims”.

AT WAR WITH ISLAM?

The recent report about the US government’s exhortation to defence personnel under training to “treat Islam as an enemy of America”, has evoked strong reactions. The weekly Nai Duniya, edited by Samajwadi Party leader Shahid Siddique, in its front page editorial (May 21-27) writes: “(Part of) the army’s syllabus taught that America is at war with Islam. Islam is an enemy of America and America will have to be ready for the destruction of Mecca Mukarrama and Medina Munawwara on the lines of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki during World War II.” The paper reminds its readers that it had “unveiled the satanic conspiracy of such a bombing in February this year and told the world that behind slogans of religious conciliation and liberty is the war waged by the US against Islam. Now the same truth is before the world in America’s own words, with evidence and witnesses along with an apology... This is America’s real, ugly face.”

Siasat in its May 13 editorial says that “the resolve of decisive war against Muslims globally or the instructions given to the American soldiers to be prepared for such an eventuality are alarming.” It adds: “When the time comes for a presidential election in America, targeting Islam is getting the sympathy of American voters... This is... a dangerous game whose plans were prepared before 9/11.”
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Teesta Setalvad appointed to advise GoI on education (Central Advisory Board on Education - CABE) : http://www.scribd.com/dharmanext/d/9469 ... D-Ministry
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Pranav wrote:Teesta Setalvad appointed to advise GoI on education (Central Advisory Board on Education - CABE) : http://www.scribd.com/dharmanext/d/9469 ... D-Ministry
Proof that the entire bunch of Lefist/ minority cronies are nothing but INC stooges.
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Per Wiki she is affliated with the following peaceful organisations.

Teesta Setalvad
Co-editor of Communalism Combat magazine (along with husband Javed Anand).
Teesta's husband Javed Anand runs Sabrang Communications which claims itself as fighting for human rights. Teesta is the official spokesperson of this organization.
Teesta heads the Mumbai based NGO Citizens for Peace and Justice(CPJ),{It is 'Citizens or Justice and Peace'(CJP)} of which her father is also a member. Many prominent Mumbai based celebrities are supporters of this NGO.[27]
Founder of the Women and Media Committee.[28] The group seeks to bring together working women journalists to raise job-related concerns and awareness of gender-sensitivity in writing and reporting on issues concerning women.
Founder of Journalists Against Communalism.[28]
Apart from the journalistic tasks Teesta Setalvad leads the project “Khoj: Education for A pluralistic India”.[29]
Teesta is General Secretary of People's Union for Human Rights” (PUHR).[29]
Member of the Pakistan India People's Forum for Peace and Democracy.[29]
Funny the common threads INC, Pakaistan related, Hurriyat Supporters and Maoists supportuers all have certain common interests.
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http://news.yahoo.com/india-declares-op ... 36445.html
India Declares Open Season on Tiger Poachers
The world's "most dangerous game" is on. A state in western India has given its forest rangers permission to shoot poachers on sight in an effort to curb poaching of tigers and other endangered wildlife.Forest guards in the state of Maharashtra should not be "booked for human rights violations when they have taken action against poachers," Maharashtra Forest Minister Patangrao Kadam said Tuesday, the Associated Press reports. The state even plans to send more rangers and trucks into the forest, and will offer secret payments to informers who give tips about poachers and animalsmugglers, Kadam said.Although no tiger poachers have ever been shot in Maharashtra before, conservationists believe the threat could significantly deter wildlife criminals. A similar measure permitting guards to shoot poachers in Assam, a state in northeastern India, has facilitated the recovery of the local population of endangered one-horned rhinos. India's wildlife reserves are home to half of the world's estimated 3,200 tigers, and though tiger hunting is banned there, illegal poaching remains a serious issue thanks to demand for tiger parts driven by traditional Chinese medicine practitioners. Fourteen tigers have been killed by poachers in India so far this year — one more than in all of 2011 — and eight of the poaching deaths occurred in Maharashtra."These poachers have lost all fear. They just go in and poach what they want because they know the risks are low," said Divyabhanusinh Chavda, who heads the World Wildlife Fund in India. In many of the country's reserves, guards are armed with little more than sticks.
Permission to kill poachers with impunity as well as the state's offer to pay informers could change the game
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^^^

This story about shooting poachers on sight, is garnering a lot of reader interest and comment, almost all of it favourable to the Indian policy, for a change! It's a story made for AP, Reuters, AFP etc, but also something geared to the average North American, who likes animals, and detests the killing of tigers for their body parts.

However, as yet, there has been no news wire report about Shourya Ray, the 16 year old prodigy based in Germany, who solved an old mathematical challenge. If the prodigy had been Caucasian American, Canadian or British, it likely would be a top 'wire' news item.
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That PVN Rao was India's greatest PM cannot be questioned. ABV is a distant second. The hatchet job by that DDM was difficult to read without laughing out loud.
To call the IG or Rajiv secular takes a lot of chutzpah. More of IG's incompetent economics and India would have fallen into bankruptcy and then possible dismemberment. There are so many self hating Hindus in India that need to be forced to live in Pakistan so they can experience the tolerance of their Muslim friends.
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I agree 400% with the sentiments expressed in those snippets from the Urdu press. The backwardness of muslims in India often keeps me up at night especially as they seem to do so well in other countries :mrgreen: Obviously none of the blame can fall on them or their religion. The only other etiology to reasonably consider would be discrimination. As with most of the world's problems (if not all) clearly the answer is more Islam. Alas in India with its sickular constitution this is simply not possible, though I must wholeheartedly congratulate the Congress party for trying their very best in this regard despite the limitations placed on them by the constitution and of course Hindu-nationalists.

The only solution would be for muslims in India to go to a place where Islam flourishes and even looking cross eyed at a Koran merits the death penalty. When I locate such a place I will write to the GOI in this regard.
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This story about shooting poachers on sight, is garnering a lot of reader interest and comment, almost all of it favourable to the Indian policy, for a change! It's a story made for AP, Reuters, AFP etc, but also something geared to the average North American, who likes animals, and detests the killing of tigers for their body parts.
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Not really, the China angle is never examined.
What is it about Chinese that drives the demand for tiger parts. Can they really be so superstitious and backward? Are atomic weapons safe in such hands?

Any drones have any thoughts?
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tejas wrote:That PVN Rao was India's greatest PM cannot be questioned. ABV is a distant second. The hatchet job by that DDM was difficult to read without laughing out loud.
To call the IG or Rajiv secular takes a lot of chutzpah. More of IG's incompetent economics and India would have fallen into bankruptcy and then possible dismemberment. There are so many self hating Hindus in India that need to be forced to live in Pakistan so they can experience the tolerance of their Muslim friends.
PVN is the greatest on BRF..I'm not clear. Even Chandrasekhar had started taking steps. PVN did enable reforms and all credit to him (much more than MMS) but the greatest PM? what are the reasons for that?
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Viv its not just the reforms which I think are alone enough to make him the best. The list of Indian PMs is not exactly an honor role. PVN Rao also played dumb with the US lulling them into thinking the Agni missile development was being frozen and that things were slowed on the nuclear weapons development front. Neither was the case. He was a true Chanakya. His efforts allowed POK 2 to take place though credit must be given to ABV for actually giving the go ahead. These actions took place at a time when India was particularly vulnerable to economic blackmail by Unkil. Rao was also a true intellectual unlike the high school educated( no college degree) Indira. Clowns like Chandrasekhar or Deve Gowda don't even deserved to be mentioned.

Meanwhile PVN Rao is despised by his own Kangress party because they realize in the very short time he was in office he was able to do so much more for India than the useless Gandee dynasty. Nehru laid the foundations for economic deprivation in India and his dim witted daughter drove the nails in the coffin. We have these two to blame for having a per capita income that is 140th in the world. Yet every other project in India is named after them. To name the airport and ORR projects in AP(my home state) after Gandees and not at least one of them after PVN Rao makes me physically ill.
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>> his dim witted daughter

If lulling US into "thinking the Agni missile development was being frozen and that things were slowed on the nuclear weapons development front" is an achievement then maybe starting those programmes should be an achievement too. Actually given the bad state of Indian economy in mid-1960s, one can argue that not signing NPT is a sufficient indicator of a good (if not great) leader.

If "dim witted" people can divide Pakistan into two parts then maybe we need a few more such dim witted people.
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OMG. Did allowing Gen. Maneckshaw to dictate the time of attacking in E. Pakistan make IG the greatest thing since sliced bread? Homi Bhaba came away singularly unimpressed with her intelligence after meeting her. The nonsensical market distorting and corruption/poverty producing economic rules she allowed to pass stil shackle India today. Her insane job destroying labor laws requiring govt permission to fire a worker if employing more than 100 contribute to India's poor manufacturing numbers given its population. Her return of land and 93,000 Puke prisoners with no quid pro quo was a masterstroke. There was an old op-ed piece by an Indian Proctor and Gamble executive which beautifully summarized how IG made India a country that the young wanted to flee it was a beautiful article and I will look for it though it is quite old.

Bangladesh cannot make up for all the squalor and impoverished lives she is directly responsible for.And why pray tell was every South-East Asian country and their brother growing like crazy in the 1960s and 1970s while India was growing at 2-3%? One IG was more than enough thank you. I don't think we even need to discuss her father do we?
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tejas wrote:OMG. Did allowing Gen. Maneckshaw to dictate the time of attacking in E. Pakistan make IG the greatest thing since sliced bread?
OMG indeed. If you learn to read carefully, you will see that I did not say that she was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Similarly, "lulling US into believing" something will not make PVNR "the best thing since sliced bread".

And if Indira does not get credit for 1971 war, then maybe PVNR should not get the credit for economic reforms.
Homi Bhaba came away singularly unimpressed with her intelligence after meeting her.
So? How many people can impress Bhabha? Did PVNR get certificates from a Bhabha-like person?
The nonsensical market distorting and corruption/poverty producing economic rules she allowed to pass stil shackle India today. Her insane job destroying labor laws requiring govt permission to fire a worker if employing more than 100 contribute to India's poor manufacturing numbers given its population.
This rhetoric is often heard here. So "economic rules" produce corruption? By the way, bank nationalization had some role to play in ensuring the stability of Indian banks in 2008.

The ICICI bank (which follows all the rules of the "markets") was running to P. Chidambaram's office in 2008. Care to explain why they wanted "market distorting" government intervention?

Her return of land and 93,000 Puke prisoners with no quid pro quo was a masterstroke.
It was not a masterstroke. But the division of Pakistan was a good enough benchmark which has not been surpassed by her so-called "intellectual" successors. Maybe they were good enough only in "lulling" others.
Bangladesh cannot make up for all the squalor and impoverished lives she is directly responsible for.And why pray tell was every South-East Asian country and their brother growing like crazy in the 1960s and 1970s while India was growing at 2-3%?
Of course, she is "directly" responsible for the "squalor" and "impoverished lives". But the credit for Green revolution and 1971 victory should go to the scientists and generals respectively. Can you see the asymmetry here?
One IG was more than enough thank you.
Hardly. Actually, we could use a person like her in the MEA right now.
I don't think we even need to discuss her father do we?
No, we should not discuss him. He was an intellectual.
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Economic growth under IG was mostly in the 2-3% range. At the lower level that means the economy would take 35 yrs to double. Compare that to a doubling time of less than 8 yrs at 9% growth. These are not mere numbers they are the difference between squalor and a decent standard of living for millions of people. Capitalism is indeed the worst economic system... except for everything else. The subsidy on one fossil fuel type compared to another leads to adulteration, smuggling and yes corruption. It is complete nonsense. The political interference in power pricing is responsible for the extremely low per capita power production/use in India. Is waiting 3 yrs for a phone connection if a bribe is not paid a conducive system to develop telecommunication?

Nationalizing Air India was also a masterstroke. How many billions of dollars has that entity lost, money that could be spent productively on schools/rural health care? What possible business does the govt have running (into then ground) an airline? Other than free rides for every useless politician and their brother, uncle, wife... The govt.'s job is to regulate banks not own them and give loans out for political purposes rather than economically solid ones. Something the Chinese are soon going to learn the hard way. If having to run to the govt. for permission to increase output at my toothpaste factory, for example, is your idea of how to run an economy we will have to agree to disagree. BTW given the astronomical amounts of money Apple is making, why doesn't the GOI start getting into the Iphone, Ipad and Ipod business. If not why not?
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What are you talking about?

The debate between socialism and capitalism has gone on for a long time and we are not going to settle it here. My objection was your characterization of Indira Gandhi as "dim witted". That was unkind and uncalled for.

Socialism and capitalism have their strengths and weaknesses. Govt's welfare schemes save the lives of many people. Of course, people don't count them when they compare growth rates. Soviet Union's communism did not survive. And American brand of capitalism is worse than the social democracies of Scandinavian countries. The ideal role of government in the economy is a complex issue.

Nationalization of Air India or any company is not an invitation for indulging in corrupt practices or inefficiency. Did the govt ask Air India employees/management to ruin their company? No. The citizens of this country take the govt for granted and steal their money. It is ironic because those companies are nationalized to help the citizens from the laissez faire approach of the free market. Ultimately, if public sector companies keep making losses, they will be sold off. Then we will enjoy the divine benevolence of the free market.

Regarding IG vs. PVNR: There is no doubt that PVNR was a great PM. It is also clear that the cong family has not treated him well. The early 1990s were a difficult time for the country due to J&K and Punjab issues. PVNR handled them well and also played a role in making the economy more dynamic.

Indira Gandhi should get partial credit on following issues: (a) Bank Nationalization (These days people have started accepting that banking should be boring). (ii) Inclusion of Sikkim in India (iii) Pokharan-I (iv) 1971 war, (v) Green Revolution and (vi) Not signing NPT. In early 1980s, the missile programme was also started. Her negative "achievements" are: (i) Low growth rate (ii) Emergency (iii) Mishandling Khalistan issue.

Overall, IG was better on strategic issues. PVNR has a better record on economy-related issues. Who is better? It is okay to differ on the relative importance of these issues.

And let us end this discussion here.
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I agree sir, no mas (that's Spanish for no more) :)
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Rajiv Malhotra; Neelakandan, Aravindan. Breaking India: Western Interventions in Dravidian and Dalit Faultlines Infinity Foundation.
Kancha Ilaiah: ‘We Want to Kill Sanskrit’

Another important ideologue being globally promoted by DFN as ‘the leading Dalit rights campaigner’, is Kancha Ilaiah. DFN awarded him a post doctoral fellowship.49 One of his books, Why I am not a Hindu, is prescribed in introductory courses on Hinduism at many American universities. Koenraad Elst, a Belgian Indologist, reviewed the book and found parallels with the anti-Jewish caricatures in Nazi literature:

"These anti-Hindu forces are exploiting the Aryan Invasion Theory to the hilt, infusing crank racism in vast doses into India’s body politic. Read, e.g. Kancha Ilaiah’s book Why I Am Not a Hindu (Calcutta, 1996), sponsored by the Rajiv Gandhi Foundation, with its anti-Brahmin cartoons: move the hairlocks of the Brahmin villains from the back of the head to just in front of their ears, and you get exact replicas of the anti-Semitic cartoons from the Nazi paper, Der Stumer."50
Why would Rajiv Gandhi Foundation sponsor such a book?
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There was a recent article in the Toronto Sun, written by a Pakistani origin columnist, questioning the idea of Sikh Canadians wearing daggers in public. It was very reasonably argued, and expressed a sentiment shared by the majority of people. What was striking about the article was that the writer mentioned the oppression of Sikhs under the Mughals, and stated that were he alive at the time, he would have joined his Sikh 'brothers and sisters' against the Mughal tyranny. Very impressive. Can you imagine saying this openly in Pakistan, particularly in Pakistani Punjab? The idea of a Moslem supporting a non-Moslem against Moslem rulers/power, would be beyond blasphemous in Moslem countries.
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abhishek_sharma wrote:Rajiv Malhotra; Neelakandan, Aravindan. Breaking India: Western Interventions in Dravidian and Dalit Faultlines Infinity Foundation.
Kancha Ilaiah: ‘We Want to Kill Sanskrit’

Another important ideologue being globally promoted by DFN as ‘the leading Dalit rights campaigner’, is Kancha Ilaiah. DFN awarded him a post doctoral fellowship.49 One of his books, Why I am not a Hindu, is prescribed in introductory courses on Hinduism at many American universities. Koenraad Elst, a Belgian Indologist, reviewed the book and found parallels with the anti-Jewish caricatures in Nazi literature:

"These anti-Hindu forces are exploiting the Aryan Invasion Theory to the hilt, infusing crank racism in vast doses into India’s body politic. Read, e.g. Kancha Ilaiah’s book Why I Am Not a Hindu (Calcutta, 1996), sponsored by the Rajiv Gandhi Foundation, with its anti-Brahmin cartoons: move the hairlocks of the Brahmin villains from the back of the head to just in front of their ears, and you get exact replicas of the anti-Semitic cartoons from the Nazi paper, Der Stumer."50
Why would Rajiv Gandhi Foundation sponsor such a book?
Why are you surprised after having studied IG so well? Is not strategy in the blood of the bloodline? Was it not always the supreme imperative in that bloodline to deconstruct and weaken the "Hindu" while preserving it for personal and family interests as and when necessary - even in IG? :D
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>> Why are you surprised after having studied IG so well?

I did not know that IG was running the Rajiv Gandhi foundation.
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abhishek_sharma wrote:>> Why are you surprised after having studied IG so well?

I did not know that IG was running the Rajiv Gandhi foundation.
No, apart from hopefully sarcasm in the above- its the same family tradition that I referred to. If you have studied IG's strategic moves and tactical moves so well - you should have noted how she relaxed her fathers direct assault on "Hinduism", to a more nuanced manipulation, but with "p-sec" inputs also simultaneously stressed. Since her demise, the less astute manipulators emerging out of the lineage have decided to go back to the chacha approach. That is all.
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I guess I did not study that "family tradition" thing. Apologies.
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Views from the Right
CARNIVAL OF CROOKS

The RSS weekly Organiser alleges that the UPA government has betrayed the aam aadmi by hiking petrol prices by Rs 7.50 per litre. “Administrative paralysis, corruption and price rise — in every respect it has outsmarted even the infamous Mohammed bin Tughlaq of the dark middle ages... the petrol hike has come as the last stab in the back of the tormented common man,” it says.

Contending that it does not make economic sense to raise petrol prices citing international crude prices at a time when prices are actually falling, the Organiser says in its editorial that crude prices have crossed $100 in the past but this is the first time that such a steep hike has been effected.

“Petrol is sold (for) the highest (price) in India, higher than even the neighbouring Pakistan, Bangladesh, China, Nepal and Sri Lanka. Two years ago when the international crude price was above $120, petrol was sold at around Rs 65 per litre. The only message that comes out of the present hike is that the Manmohan Singh government is(in cahoots) with the oil mafia in the country,” it alleged.

Maintaining that the average Indian is reeling under the terrible burden of double-digit inflation, the falling rupee, vanishing jobs, depressed industrial production and increasing costs of all social sector needs like health and education, the editorial said that the price hike is unjustifiable even as some economists argue otherwise.

“Manmohan Singh can blame a falling rupee... and international crude oil price for (the) petrol hike. But what is his explanation for double-digit inflation? Why is it that the cost of every consumer item across the board has risen by 25 to 50 per cent in the last six months, despite good monsoon and a bumper harvest? People have come to realise the government the UPA is running for a selected few at the expense of the large majority... Perhaps this is what the UPA celebrated on May 23. A carnival of the crooks,” says the Organiser.

IMAGE BUILDING

After becoming the centre of attention at the recently concluded national executive of the BJP, Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi seems set on a course of image building. The Panchjanya has dedicated its latest issue to Gujarat, focusing on Modi’s achievements. The issue highlights progress in different areas, including the Gujarat government’s approach on the environment, the development of ports in the state, education, solar energy and general administration.

WAY OF LIFE

Continuing with its series on RSS ideologue M.S. Golwarkar or Guruji, as he was called, the Organiser contends that his views on Hinduism as an “all embracing... way of life” of the people of this country, and “not a narrow religion”, was endorsed by the Supreme Court almost half a century later. Quoting from the SC judgement in R.Y. Prabhoo vs P.K. Kunte, which is now popularly known as the Hindutva case, the article by S. Gurumurthy argues that the apex court, when called upon to consider whether Hindutva as an ideology was communal, accepted the conclusion that Hinduism “may broadly be described as a way of life and nothing more” and “does not satisfy the narrow traditional features of any religion or creed”.

The article says that Golwarkar’s views were criticised when he expressed them as Sarsanghachalak of the RSS, taking over as head of the organisation in 1940 until he passed away in 1973. The judgement came in 1995. “What Guruji spoke decades earlier was... consistent with the secular constitutional perspective of the Supreme Court regarding Hindutva. When Guruji spoke that what he did, his views were criticised as anti-secular and communal. But the very views of Guruji were later accepted and endorsed by... legal scrutiny (of) the Supreme Court. It only means that what Guruji spoke was ahead of his time” says Gurumurthy in his article.

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Notice how Anand's world chess win, is one of those 'used car section' type news stories. His name is hardly household, whereas people can still recall Kasparov. Yahoo news and AP/Reuters/AFP are more interested in eunuchs, bus accidents and pilots flying with false licenses.
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Kasparov was a Russian who fought against the 'establishment' (Karpov and Russian govt) and was also raising his head against Putin :). Kasparov has been a world champion/highest rated player for nearly 20 years and created his own org against FIDE, played IBM's deep blue, anti-Russion/Soviet govt etc. -- so a larger than life kind of person. Anand is non-controversial.
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