Internal Security Watch

sum · Post by **sum** » 15 Jul 2014 08:52

Victory for democracy onlee:
Maudany released on one-month bail

Abdul Nasser Maudany, one of the accused in the 2008 Bangalore serial blasts and founder-chairman of Kerala-based People’s Democratic Party (PDP), was released from the Central Prison, Bangalore, on Monday night, three days after the Supreme Court granted him one-month bail on health grounds.

As the prison authorities released him around 7.45 pm, a large crowd, including his family members, friends, relatives, supporters and well-wishers, received him. He was driven away to Soukya International Holistic Health Centre in Samethanahalli near Whitefield.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 15 Jul 2014 14:57

muraliravi wrote:
Chandragupta wrote:
Reading all that, makes me completely sure there is only one solution to India's Muslim ~~Population~~ problem, one that nobody wants to talk about.
Problem is that the solution you are thinking is extremely difficult to implement if not impossible.

No need to implement that solution on 100% of them, only on 10%, rest will automatically fall in line. But before all this can happen, the gloves need to come off on Islam and it needs to be openly called for what it is - an archaic, violent Arabic tribal cult.

sum · Post by **sum** » 15 Jul 2014 15:53

Some more faithfool news:
I don't want to live in this sinful country: Indian ISIS recruit

'I do not want to live in this sinful country; the sun is setting on our backyard. It is time to take that greatest journey and migrate to the land of Allah.'

'The time has come and may we all meet in paradise. I cannot live in this country; I am moved to tears watching all of you live a luxurious life style, watching TV, listening to music...'

Contents from the letters written by Arif Fayaz and Fahad Shaikh before leaving their homes in Kalyan, Maharashtra, for Iraq to join the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant militia.

The Intelligence Bureau has confirmed that Fayaz and Shaikh are fighting near Fallujah which is close to the Iraqi capital Baghdad, but have been unable to track down their exact location.

The two engineering students, in their early twenties, belong to families of doctors. Their case came to light when one of the parents discovered a note which spoke about a cause that has only one end -- death.

All these young men saved up over the past year and then left for Iraq. Not a penny is provided to them by ISIS," an Intelligence Bureau agent told Rediff.com

"They left for Singapore. From there they were sent to Baghdad where they arrive as persons looking for a job. From Baghdad they are sent to Fajullah where they come in contact with the ISIS. These may not be trained fighters, but for the ISIS only numbers matter," the IB officer said.

"They are only too happy to take persons from various nations into their fold, irrespective of their experience in warfare."

"Having Muslims from different parts of the world strengthens their cause," the IB officer said. "The movement would not look like one restricted to Iraq or Syria. Moreover with the declaration of the Caliphate, the ISIS is looking for acceptance from Muslims across the world."

Somehow NaMo missed out getting his name in the letter else DDM would have run the news item blaming NaMo for ISIS getting created!

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 15 Jul 2014 17:41

sum wrote:Some more faithfool news:
I don't want to live in this sinful country: Indian ISIS recruit

'I do not want to live in this sinful country; the sun is setting on our backyard. It is time to take that greatest journey and migrate to the land of Allah.'

'The time has come and may we all meet in paradise. I cannot live in this country; I am moved to tears watching all of you live a luxurious life style, watching TV, listening to music...'

Contents from the letters written by Arif Fayaz and Fahad Shaikh before leaving their homes in Kalyan, Maharashtra, for Iraq to join the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant militia.

The Intelligence Bureau has confirmed that Fayaz and Shaikh are fighting near Fallujah which is close to the Iraqi capital Baghdad, but have been unable to track down their exact location.

The two engineering students, in their early twenties, belong to families of doctors. Their case came to light when one of the parents discovered a note which spoke about a cause that has only one end -- death.

All these young men saved up over the past year and then left for Iraq. Not a penny is provided to them by ISIS," an Intelligence Bureau agent told Rediff.com

"They left for Singapore. From there they were sent to Baghdad where they arrive as persons looking for a job. From Baghdad they are sent to Fajullah where they come in contact with the ISIS. These may not be trained fighters, but for the ISIS only numbers matter," the IB officer said.

"They are only too happy to take persons from various nations into their fold, irrespective of their experience in warfare."

"Having Muslims from different parts of the world strengthens their cause," the IB officer said. "The movement would not look like one restricted to Iraq or Syria. Moreover with the declaration of the Caliphate, the ISIS is looking for acceptance from Muslims across the world."
Somehow NaMo missed out getting his name in the letter else DDM would have run the news item blaming NaMo for ISIS getting created!

So now India has become just a hotel for such morons. Use and throw.

Engineering seats gone down the drain, seats that could have been used for the betterment of the society.

police complaint is the best that the families could do and in the meanwhile, they go back to watching TV and listening to music and "leading a luxurious lifestyle"

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 15 Jul 2014 17:44

^^^, actually, its good for us. Let them leave, just make sure that the GOI enacts a policy of no return and cancellation of passports at the emigration counter and just a slip to enter the ISIS zone.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 17 Jul 2014 05:35

Police, minorities and perception management

sum · Post by **sum** » 17 Jul 2014 10:18

Gems from above article:

Sometimes the mere enforcement of laws brings the police into conflict with minorities, with accusations that the police are insensitive, says the report. “Nothing epitomises this better than the situation that prevails around Id-uz-Zuha (Bakr-Eid). The religion demands sacrifice of animals and demand for the animals for slaughter far exceeds the supply and animals have to be transported in large numbers just around the festival in violation of transport rules,” it says.

“Inadequate facilities for slaughter of animals in the abattoirs in cities force members of the community to slaughter the animals in their houses, often in violation of the laws… Their enforcement by police brings it in conflict with the minority community, earns the ire of community and strengthens the perception that police are insensitive to the needs and sentiments of minorities.”

The report cites a lack of sensibility on the part of the police. Examples: “Eating before members of the community called to police stations for interviews during the period of Ramadan while they are fasting, rigorous interrogation during fasting, or denial of water at the time of breaking fast, use of police dogs considered dirty by Muslims in their homes and offices or other checks.”

The report gives the example of the demolition of an illegal structure by a local municipal body, during which members of the minority community discovered “some burnt pieces of pages of scripture”, which they brought to the police station. “Not realising the relevance of the burnt pages, the police station officers dealt with it in a routine manner of depositing them in malkhana without taking steps to ascertain significance of the pages and neither did they try to ascertain circumstances in which they were burnt, nor register an offence.”

This, the report says, led to an escalation. “Had the police officers realised what significance the pages could hold for the minority community, a law and order situation could have been averted.”

Law enforcers in different places have dealt with similar situations differently, the report says.

“A public toilet constructed by the road transport corporation was paved with ceramic tiles with pattern that appeared to some to be in Arabic script. A panicked leadership without getting it confirmed whether indeed it was an Arabic script or not, got the corporation to break and remove all the tiles.

“As opposed to it, in a communally volatile unit, scraps of papers were found after members of majority community had burst crackers in a religious procession. These scraps were found with something written in Arabic and rumour soon spread that Koran pages had been used in making of the crackers. Police requested religious leaders of the community to read and decipher if the pages came from the Holy Book. After reading the same they concluded that the writing had no connection with the Holy Koran and when the same was disseminated, the tension subsided.”

So basically, evil majority didnt give enough infrastructure( and are doing sins like eating in front of muslims in their police stations) and hence, we break rules and so suck it up.

More on the usual "muslims are innocent onlee, communal Hindu police onlee" wailing:
Muslims think we are communal, corrupt: Police

In what is perhaps the first admission of its kind, the police have concluded that there is a trust deficit among Muslims, who see them as “communal, biased and insensitive…. ill-informed, corrupt and lacking professionalism”.

A report, “Strategy for making police forces more sensitive towards minority sections”, prepared by three DGPs — Sanjeev Dayal of Maharashtra, Deoraj Nagar of Uttar Pradesh and K Ramanujam of Tamil Nadu — along with an Intelligence Bureau representative, says that the distrust comes from poor representation of minorities in the forces and the conduct of some policemen during riots.

“Poor representation of the minorities in the police forces has contributed to this distrust and suspicion. It has to be admitted that the conduct of some members of the police forces in various states during communal riots had only served to strengthen and heighten these suspicions and distrust in the minority communities,” it says.

Saying that Muslims form the largest minority, constituting “a vocal and large section of the population” in most states, the report calls for urgent correction of the perception in the community about the police as it “impinges on the communal situation of the country and thus its internal security”.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 17 Jul 2014 15:03

abhishek_sharma wrote:Police, minorities and perception management

Enlightening article!!

. Perhaps the (now suspended) Police Inspector of Frazer Town police station can also give a good lecture on perception management. From what ever I could make out from the article - Muslims expect the police to behave according to their whims and fancies. Perhaps become a Shariah compliant police force. It is up to the police forces to decide whether they need get this compliance certificate or not. The police would also then have a herculean task convincing the majority community that they are not partisan.

sum · Post by **sum** » 17 Jul 2014 15:14

From what ever I could make out from the article - Muslims expect the police to behave according to their whims and fancies. Perhaps become a Shariah compliant police force

That was the only take away for me from the article!

Just cant stop reading this para again and again just to get the tone of entitlement:

“Nothing epitomises this better than the situation that prevails around Id-uz-Zuha (Bakr-Eid). The religion demands sacrifice of animals and demand for the animals for slaughter far exceeds the supply and animals have to be transported in large numbers just around the festival in violation of transport rules,” it says.

“Inadequate facilities for slaughter of animals in the abattoirs in cities force members of the community to slaughter the animals in their houses, often in violation of the laws… Their enforcement by police brings it in conflict with the minority community, earns the ire of community and strengthens the perception that police are insensitive to the needs and sentiments of minorities.”

The report cites a lack of sensibility on the part of the police. Examples: “Eating before members of the community called to police stations for interviews during the period of Ramadan while they are fasting, rigorous interrogation during fasting, or denial of water at the time of breaking fast, use of police dogs considered dirty by Muslims in their homes and offices or other checks.”

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 17 Jul 2014 17:09

More sense of entitlement:

Kiran Kumar S ‏@KiranKS 28m
22 year gang raped in Bengaluru. Accused are Nasser, Wasim, Ali, Athiq & Imtiyaz. And young BOYS protest the arrest

The protests against arrest of Momins helping themselves to Hindu women are justified. Didn't MMS say that Muslims have first right on India's resources. Momins understood that to mean "all" types of resources.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 17 Jul 2014 19:48

This is shameful, but similar to how after bomb blasts the police has to wash roads off blood of innocents and then defend prosecution stance in litigation process. Shouldn't an organized religion be more aware?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Jul 2014 20:19

Also
- everything written in Arabi is not from Koran.
- Arabic looks like scribbles if a tile pattern in a toilet resembles Arabic script. Is it a language at all?

Has anyone read the Arabic script in that toilet and eemed its from Koran? May be the tile installer wanted to create an incident.

That report implies the majority has to comply with shariat to not hurt their religious feelings. Is this what the Maharastra govt wants to convey and the IPS folks want to transform?

How does this gell with their oath protect the Consitiution of India?
Ind Exp is anyway a presstitute.

May be they should move to an Islamic country and live in pieces?

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 18 Jul 2014 06:02

DGPs’ report blames all arms of govt for ignoring minorities

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 18 Jul 2014 06:05

Muslims in India are radicalizing fast. Very dangerous for the stability of the country. If they don't make the decision as a whole to shun wahabism, we are going to receive a bloody nose.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 18 Jul 2014 06:39

Meanwhile, two Al Umma terrorists arrested for murder of a Hindu Munnani member last month in Chennai

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 18 Jul 2014 06:45

I came across a network of Indian muslims and was stunned at the level of absolute virulent radicalization - from Palestine conflict to Article 370 to Kanchi Acharya to PM Modi there in absolutely NO areas of a common view with an average Hindu. This is not trust deficit and they appear to have been succesfully deracinated.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 18 Jul 2014 08:00

PM’s flight was close behind

Officials say they have no information of any Indians on board the ill-fated MH-17 flight that crashed over Ukraine on Thursday. However, Prime Minister Modi's flight could possibly have been in the same corridor as MH-17 just a short while later.

sum · Post by **sum** » 18 Jul 2014 08:42

krithivas wrote:I came across a network of Indian muslims and was stunned at the level of absolute virulent radicalization - from Palestine conflict to Article 370 to Kanchi Acharya to PM Modi there in absolutely NO areas of a common view with an average Hindu. This is not trust deficit and they appear to have been succesfully deracinated.

^^+1.

I have found zero commonality between Indian interests ( like in foreign affairs, domestic affairs) and 80% of the IMs i have come across.

Most of even the "normal" IMs i used to interact earlier have very visibly hardened in last few years. Very grim days ahead

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 18 Jul 2014 11:51

krithivas & sum, there is nothing surprising in this because for the Muslims, religious affinity supercedes man-made geographical boundaries. That is the real danger.

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 18 Jul 2014 12:12

Top Naxal leader Sabyasachi Panda arrested in Odisha
http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/to ... 48256.html

VikramS · Post by **VikramS** » 18 Jul 2014 12:32

sum wrote:
krithivas wrote:I came across a network of Indian muslims and was stunned at the level of absolute virulent radicalization - from Palestine conflict to Article 370 to Kanchi Acharya to PM Modi there in absolutely NO areas of a common view with an average Hindu. This is not trust deficit and they appear to have been succesfully deracinated.
^^+1.

I have found zero commonality between Indian interests ( like in foreign affairs, domestic affairs) and 80% of the IMs i have come across.

Most of even the "normal" IMs i used to interact earlier have very visibly hardened in last few years. Very grim days ahead

These are the fruits of the Sonia-Patel govt.. For over a decade the English MSM has been running a vicious campaign. Look at the airtime the likes of Ishrat Jahan got when there are thousands of others who end up in an extra-judicial circumstance. If you put yourself in the place of the IM you too will feel insecure and persecuted. NaMo's victory simply added fuel to the fire.

The divisive propaganda is a lot more effective when it comes your fellow Indians..

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 18 Jul 2014 13:25

the MSM has no problem with propensity of minority religion to feel slighted at even the smallest thing. they have ALL the problems if the majority so much as even talks about their being offended at anything. "Tactical Voting" is absoloutely fine for them among a certain minority but a big concern if VHP says that tactical voting among minority members no longer matters.

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 18 Jul 2014 13:30

RoyG wrote:Muslims in India are radicalizing fast. Very dangerous for the stability of the country. If they don't make the decision as a whole to shun wahabism, we are going to receive a bloody nose.

Would serve Hindus right and teach them a lesson not to entertain "Mahatamas" of Gandhi type in future. The blighter blocked all attempts to transfer Muslims out of India in 1947 while merrily signing away 1/3 of the landmass, as if he had got that in his dowry.

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 18 Jul 2014 13:31

SSridhar wrote:krithivas & sum, there is nothing surprising in this because for the Muslims, religious affinity supercedes man-made geographical boundaries. That is the real danger.

Somebody forgot to tell Gandhi and Nehru that.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 18 Jul 2014 14:09

SanjayC wrote:More sense of entitlement:

BTW, two people taken for questioning yesterday seemed to be not involved in the case. The first accused -Hyder- gave their name out as they were part of a rival gang (of Brigade Azam) and wanted them to land up in a false case. How ever his game plan was foiled and the two let off. Police now say they know the real members of the gang and two of them have absconded to AP. Mean while for Inspector Rafi, things are getting heated up - Frazer Town rape: Bangalore inspector in trouble for delaying FIR

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 18 Jul 2014 17:52

Usual stuff again?
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140718/n ... al-clashes

Earlier on Friday, clashes broke out in Baltal between the local laborers and the non local people amidst the ongoing Amarnath Yatra. Many were injured in the clash.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 19 Jul 2014 08:21

Bhatkal kin ‘martyred’ in Afghanistan: Jihadists

VikramS · Post by **VikramS** » 19 Jul 2014 08:44

Yogi_G wrote:the MSM has no problem with propensity of minority religion to feel slighted at even the smallest thing. they have ALL the problems if the majority so much as even talks about their being offended at anything. "Tactical Voting" is absoloutely fine for them among a certain minority but a big concern if VHP says that tactical voting among minority members no longer matters.

The entire goal of the Congi establishment is to encourage fear psychosis. They will do whatever it takes.

One manifestation is to highlight anything which can make the minority feel like a victim; and dissipate anything where they are the perps.

By talking about tactical voting as the de-rigor, they also reinforce the message. So even if someone is thinking about the issues, the constant message is that they as a minority *have* to vote "tactically" to keep the "evil" forces at bay.

There is a large population of middle of the road folks, who while holding sympathy for the 'Muslim cause' were not consumed by that. But the decade of hate propaganda has pushed the middle of the road folks too in the arms of the fear-mongers.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 20 Jul 2014 22:13

Anwar Beli el Bhatkali killed in Afghanistan. Highlighting what me and many other from Coastal Karnataka have said before, the coastal town of Bhatkal has long been a cradle of jihadism, and the threat has been ignored for too long by our security agencies. We've seen the result of this from Karnataka to Kabul. Terrorist group Ansar ul-Tauhid ul-Hind on Friday announced on its Twitter page that Anwar Beli, alias Anwar Bhatkal has been 'killed in Afghanistan.

sum · Post by **sum** » 21 Jul 2014 10:03

^^ Saar, its been well known for eons but as many reports have mentioned in last 10 years, "political considerations" have always hampered action

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Jul 2014 11:06

Radical online content sways Tamilnadu Muslim youth - ToI

The arrests of Tamil Nadu Muslims or Muslims of Tamil origin in terror acts, aborted missions or sinister plots have raised concerns among Indian security agencies about the reach of militant groups from the Middle-East and Pakistan's ISI.

The end of the ethnic war in Sri Lanka is believed to have spawned a generation of youths there who are brainwashed by ISI to target parts of southern India which until now were untouched by terror.

Intelligence agencies claim to have uncovered crucial information following the arrests of two such alleged ISI operatives, Zahir Hussain and Tamim Ansari, by TN police. Some of the leads concern plots to target keysensitive installations located in the southern states along the coast. Tamim Ansari was apparently assigned to cultivate residents in and around the key naval base in Visakhapatnam.

Equally worrying has been the spread of extremist online propaganda and its influence on Muslim youths, driving several to enrol in jihadi wars in distant lands. Parangipettai near Cuddalore on the shores of the Bay of Bengal is one among several such sleepy towns now under the scanner after a recent report on a local resident who had landed in Syria to join the ISIS.

For decades, there have been streams of Muslims heading out to the Gulf countries, Malaysia and Singapore in search of a fortune. But Islamic scholars point to the growing influence of the more puritanical traditions of the Middle-East on youths from India, particularly those from states like Kerala and Tamil Nadu. While in pursuit of the Gulf dream, some have been indoctrinated into more radical streams of thought.

In UK, worried that "extremist poisonous narrative" on the conflict in Syria could end up with "people dead on our own streets", British Prime Minister David Cameron pressured social networking sites to take down as many as 15,000 items of 'jihadist propaganda', The Guardian has reported. In India,Cert-In (Indian Computer Emergency Response Team) director general Gulshan Rai blames non-cooperating social networking sites for India's inability to block online propaganda with a 'jihadist' tone. "They don't cooperate because of commercial gains as controversial content get more likes and more advertisements," pointed out Rai.

An inter-ministerial committee decides whether such online content falls within the provisions of section 69A of the Information technology Act 2000 based on complaints or requests by law enforcing agencies. "We keep getting requests to block URLs (with jihadi elements) and the committee discusses and decides," said Rai. But internal security agencies are worried about what they term as "dangerous content" flooding social media sites. "It is the duty of every law enforcement agency to monitor such sites," said a senior police officer, seeking anonymity.

It is not only some unknown faces or terror organizations from outside which brainwash TN youth. Anyone following 'Comments' section of Tamil newspapers would know how easily and how much venom is being spewed out. It essentially comes from those who profess to follow peace.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Jul 2014 11:53

Tamilnadu Youth joins ISIS: his family recalls his journey into insurgency - ToI

In March this year, Usman Ali of Paranagipettai near Cuddalore, a picturesque coastal village north of Tamil Nadu, was shaken out of his stupor. It was a call on his wife Rokhyaa's mobile. Their son Haja Fakkurudeen (37) had phoned to say he was well and his dream had come true. He was now living in Syria with wife Ayesha Siddika and their three children, and fighting alongside ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) militants against the Bashar al-Assad regime. The voice crackled after a brief exchange of words and the connection snapped.

That was the last a shattered Usman and his wife heard from Fakkurudeen, who is believed to be among 80-odd Muslim youths from India who have joined the war against the Syrian and Iraqi regimes. "My wife, son-in-law and I tried hard to prevent him from going to Syria. But his mind had been made up. He used to contribute a good part of his salary for ISIS. He said it was his dream to live in an Islamic country," said Usman, who depended on his son's income to run the house.

Fakkurudeen had left the village, where fishing is one of the key occupations, a decade ago. He remained a Singapore citizen before ISIS's call to arms proved too big an attraction to resist. It was during a vacation in Tamil Nadu in October last year that he informed his dismayed family about his plan to enrol in the insurgents' campaign to create a caliphate.

Parangipettai, named Portonovo by early Portuguese rulers, is on an ancient trade route. In the heart of the village, the Muslim quarter is a pretty picture of century-old homes juxtaposed with modern bungalows in bright green, blue and purple, all built by immigrants to the Gulf, Singapore and Malaysia. Underneath the calm though, trouble is brewing.

It was here that Gul Mohammad Maraikar (37) returned after he was deported by Singapore for allegedly distributing 'jihadist' literature among a group of youths which included his friend Fakkurudeen. Indian Mujahideen operative Ashraf Ali, accused of setting up sleeper modules in Jodhpur, took refuge in the same village by posing as a preacher of a Delhi-based Jamaath before he was arrested by Rajasthan's anti-terror squad last month. K Qutbuddin (24), a Parangipettai resident, was also picked up by the state police last week for alleged involvement in the murder of a Hindu Munnani leader in Chennai.

The village is one among a string of several such spots across south India where impressionable Muslim youth are being constantly exposed to radical online propaganda. Police sources say at least five TN youths from different regions have been dissuaded in recent months by the police from going to Syria and Iraq to fight for the ISIS.

"Our plan is to get them off the jihadist path. We don't intend arresting them," said a senior officer, seeking anonymity. Armed with tip-offs about radicalized youths, said to be in their 20s, gearing up to leave for Syria via Dubai and Turkey, police have fanned out across Tamil Nadu over the last few months to talk to them. "Parents have also helped us by keeping a close watch over their wards," said the officer.

sooraj · Post by **sooraj** » 21 Jul 2014 17:29

Serial bomb blast accused Bhatkal claims he's being treated like an animal

http://news.rediff.com/commentary/2014/ ... f66dfa867b

Indian Mujahideen (IM) co-founder Yasin Bhatkal, arrested for his alleged involvement in various terror strikes across India, today claimed before a court in New Delhi that he is being treated "worse than an animal" in Tihar Jail and not provided proper food in the holy month of Ramzan.

Bhatkal, who was produced before the court today, claimed this before Additional Sessions Judge Raj Kapoor who directed Tihar Jail authorities to file a report on it on July 23.

In his application, Bhatkal alleged that he is presently lodged in Jail No.2 of the high security prison.

He claimed that he "has been kept in solitary confinement and is not allowed to move out from his cell and has not seen the sunlight except during his transportation for the purpose of production before the court."

"The applicant (Bhatkal) is observing fast as this is the holy month of Ramzan and he is not provided timely and proper food," the application, filed through advocate M S Khan, said.

Bhatkal also claimed that he was being "treated even worse than an animal" and he was not having access to fresh air.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 21 Jul 2014 19:33

Did his bomb blast victims get any such facilities?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Jul 2014 19:34

ramana, but he has the 'first right to resource', hasn't he ?

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 21 Jul 2014 22:53

Exclusive: Al Qaeda gears up for final jihad against India

Abhishek Bhalla | Mail Today | New Delhi, July 17, 2014 | UPDATED 12:36 IST

Tribal militias from Pakistan are prime candidates for the Ghazwa-e-Hind.Al Qaeda is at the gates, and there are enough jihadis within already. Intelligence agencies say the terror network is making inroads into India, sowing the seeds of a "final war" across the country.
Information gathered on the Al Qaeda's India plans point to a mobilisation of its resources for jihad. The ideological goal of the group, as detailed in the report, is chilling: Ghazwa-e-Hind, or the final battle in India.

Ghazwa-e-Hind refers to an indoctrinated view of a final apocalyptic war in which India will be conquered by a jihadi army. All soldiers of this army are guaranteed a place in heaven. This term is freely used in jihadi circles and on the web, but is considered bizarre by others.

Sources say the security establishment has been on the trail of launch-pads being set up within the country, and is also in touch with its counterparts in West Asia in order to crack the growing network. An intelligence report on India being used a hunting ground for global jihad reveals Al Qaeda's diabolic roadmap. To begin with, the terror group that was created and led by Arab fighters now has recruits from Kashmir-centric groups. "Not only Kashmiri groups but Taliban and Al Qaeda affiliates have stakes in the larger scheme of Ghazwa-e-Hind where India is regarded as next battleground in the 'End of Times' battle. This ideology is likely to be used to drive Taliban and Al Qaeda affiliates into Kashmir," says an intelligence report.

The Al Qaeda nexus with Kashmir-centric groups indicates it has a readymade jihadi framework in India. There is other proof too of Al Qaeda using its nexus with Indian groups to spread its ideology. An online English publication of Al Qaeda called Azan which is not available to the general public but is circulated through changing e-mails and encryption tools is being downloaded by Kashmiri groups. Sources say this only underlines the trend of terror groups within India getting attracted to the Al Qaeda and global jihad ideology.

Agencies fear that the Azan tactic of spreading the terror group's ideology can spawn anonymous and isolated modules that will be difficult to detect but potent enough to carry out big attacks. Intelligence reports also state that groups like Tehreek-e-Taliban have also declared they will open 'offices' in Kashmir. It has been revealed that a Taliban flag was hoisted at a point overlooking Srinagar last year and the walls of Hari Parbat fort were painted with slogans like 'Welcome Taliban.'

Ideological goals
Ideological goalsSources say there is an urgent need for the home ministry and intelligence agencies to understand the threat. "Indicators need to be monitored to prevent the situation from worsening," said one official. Al Qaeda's propaganda arm, Al Sahab, released a video recently, titled 'Why is there no storm in your ocean?' The report states that the video and transcripts were posted on several jihadi forums. The videos have speeches asking youth from Delhi, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Gujarat and South India to join the global jihad.
Incidentally, these are the areas from where young men were recruited by Indian Mujahideen (IM), India's homegrown terror group that has become synonymous with bomb blasts in public places.

With the IM facing a major setback because of a series of arrests, including that of its top leader Yasin Bhatkal, sources say Indians fighting in Iraq for terror group Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) are part of larger scheme. Many more recruits are getting attracted to the global jihad that can later be used to wage war against India.

There are also distinct inputs on Al Qaeda running a separate terror module in India as the home grown terror outfit IM is making efforts to go global and establish strong links with groups like Al Qaeda, Taliban and Hizbut Tahrir. There is also evidence of Al Qaeda keeping a close watch on activities in India.

The chargesheet filed by the National Investigation Agency (NIA) against Bhatkal says that organisations Al Qaeda and Taliban are helping IM. It also mentioned that the investigation revealed that some IM members fighting on the Afghanistan-Pakistan Border. NIA has said in the chargesheet that Riyaz Bhatkal, a top IM commander based in Pakistan, travelled to tribal belts on the Af-Pak border for establishing contact with Al Qaeda. "After the meeting, which was very fruitful, Al Qaeda gave specific tasks to the IM for execution and agreed to train their cadres in terrorist.

Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/al-q ... 72757.html

This is what I've been talking about for some time. Once NATO departs from Afghanistan, we will experience a rise in infiltration but this won't be the main event. The main event will come from a pan-Indian Islamic secessionist movement backed by Pakistan. They are trying to extend their jelly state into the heart of India. We are very unprepared for this and I don't think we've done enough gaming on BR for this scenario.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 22 Jul 2014 07:08

Each time there is an attack on India, we must make forays into what's today's Pakistan and claim our land, pushing back the terrorists each time until we reach the shores of the Persian empire. There must not be nothing in between India and Persia.

This may happen slowly but this is bound to happen. There is nothing that prevents this from happening. Just as Middle east is getting changed geographically according to history and the British drawn lines are disappearing, similarly the same will happen in the Indian subcontinent. If not today, tomorrow for sure.

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 22 Jul 2014 19:32

Is this a new security threat brewing?

Varoon Shekhar · Post by **Varoon Shekhar** » 22 Jul 2014 20:36

"^^+1.

I have found zero commonality between Indian interests ( like in foreign affairs, domestic affairs) and 80% of the IMs i have come across."

Pretty accurate, also in how history is viewed. Rarely do IMs speak or refer to the colonial exploitation of India by the British or anyone. Historically, that's probably because the IMs main concern was to secure as much representation and government jobs as possible, with the British departing. There are of course always the individual exception. Economic exploitation of India by outsiders, is not an issue with Moslems, for the most part.

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 22 Jul 2014 22:44

SanjayC wrote:Is this a new security threat brewing?

I read her whole interview. Have no words to express my shock. Shame that this retard is elected member of Indian parliament! TRS is a curse on Telangana. This retard really thinks that if we give back some parts of Kashmir we do not need to spend much on our defence and use the money for other development purposes.