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Can be posted on multiple threads:
UK: Multiculturalism vs. Islamism
...Majeed, like a large number of British Muslims, was not an Arabic speaker. He was of Pakistani heritage. About 70% of British Muslims are, in fact, South Asian. A mere 6.6% are believed to be of Arab descent. And very few British Muslims can actually speak Arabic.
...British Muslims, Beg continued, have rejected "their parents' cultural understanding of Islam as a religion. British-Pakistani Muslims have become Muslims first, and are losing patience with the Pakistani practice of the religion embedded in Sufi traditions."
...The Indian academic Baladas Ghoshal blames the "Wahhabi creed" of Saudi Arabia, which, he claims, has attempted to purge South Asian Islam of its cultural practises and emblems, and has instead imposed a "pure and ideal form of Islam to be followed by Muslims all over the world."
...Over the past decades, since Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates have distributed vast amounts of money to non-profit groups and schools run by South Asian Islamist movements, Jamaat-e-Islami{Since when is this group has become Indian as well to be called "South Asian"?}, for example, set about purging Pakistani and Bengali Muslims of their cultural ideas. The Muslim writer Sazzad Hussain observed the consequences of Islamist-led homogenization of his culture in the Indian state of Assam:
Muslims of Assam:
"The Islamist fundamentalist has one very distinctive characteristic—the denial of modern nation-state identity of Muslims to form a uniformed 'Islamic' identity at the cost of local tradition and cultural practices. … These days the Muslims of Assam are not identified as Assamese Muslims or Muslim of East Bengali descent. Instead they are merely homogenized as 'Muslims' … The use of Burqa and Hijab are alarmingly rising among the Muslim women in Assam. The ankle length Thaub, a Bedouin male dress and the red and white chequered headgear Kaffaiah are now in fashion for many Mollahs and Maulvis [clerics] and Madrassa students in Assam. It has reached to such an extent that this red-white or green-white chequered Kaffaiah is now replacing the Phoolam Gamocha, the symbol of Assamese culture…"
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Islamist Extremism 'A Deadly Problem For Charity'

A charities' watchdog has warned that Islamist extremism is the "most deadly" problem the sector faces.

William Shawcross, chairman of the Charity Commission , said it was "ludicrous" that people convicted of terrorism offences or money laundering are not barred from setting up charities.

He told The Sunday Times the commission was taking action against any charity that was "sending cash to extremist groups in Syria" or "dispatching young Britons for training in Syria by al Qaeda or other extremist groups".

He said: "The problem of Islamist extremism and charities... is not the most widespread problem we face in terms of abuse of charities, but is potentially the most deadly. And it is, alas, growing.

"I'm sure that in places like Syria and Somalia it is very, very difficult for agencies always to know what the end use of their aid is, but they've got to be particularly vigilant."

In February, the Charity Commission was criticised as "feeble" after an investigation by MPs on the Public Accounts Committee , which found it had failed to act robustly on clear cases of abuse.

Mr Shawcross described the criticism as "completely wrong", but said the watchdog needs better funding and legal powers to improve its function.

He added he had written to the Prime Minister asking for legislation to strength its powers.

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The ever present beheading theme - wouldn't teaching people some maths be better?

Witness recalls demo in 'how to slit a throat' as terror trial opens
NEW YORK -- On a ranch in rural Oregon, a radical Muslim holding a dagger with a curved blade yanked back the head of a kneeling young man and brought the metal to his neck.

"He said he was going to show us how to properly slice someone's throat," the kneeling man's sister testified Thursday as prosecutors began presenting their case against an Egyptian-born imam known as Abu Hamza Masri, the latest terrorism case to unfold in a New York federal court.

Masri, who also goes by Mustafa Kamel Mustafa, was not the man holding the knife, but a government indictment alleges that he sent the knife-wielding man from London to Oregon to establish a terrorist training camp.

Other charges include providing material support to terrorists and conspiring to support terrorists by sending men and money to set up the camp outside Bly, Ore., a remote hamlet about 300 miles southeast of Portland.

The prosecution's first witness was Angelica Morris, who was living in a trailer on the Bly ranch with her husband, daughter, son and younger brother in December 1999, when two mysterious men speaking with British accents arrived unannounced late one night.

Both men had long hair and long beards, both dressed in black, and both regularly patrolled the sprawling ranch with guns late at night during their roughly monthlong stay, said Morris. The pair often led other men on their night patrols across the ranch and had them fire pistols, shotguns and rifles down the dry creek bed running through the property, she said.

One day, Morris said the man known as Abu Abdullah took her and her brother, who was 18, outside to demonstrate throat-cutting techniques.

"He asked my brother if he would kill a kaffir," Morris said, defining "kaffir" as a Muslim term for someone who rejects Islam. "I've killed sheep, so I don't know why I couldn't," Morris recalled her brother replying.

At that point, Morris said, Abu Abdullah had her brother kneel in front of him and made a slicing motion across her brother's neck without cutting the skin.
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April 17, 2014
Why Westernized Muslims Become 'Radicalized'
By Raymond Ibrahim
A new Danish statistical study finds that “Muslims [are] 218 percent more criminal in second generation than first.” While some of these crimes are clearly related to Islam – such as attacks on Muslim apostates to Christianity – others, such as rampant theft against non-Muslims, would appear banal, until one realizes that even robbery and plunder are justified by Islamic doctrine – as one U.K. Muslim cleric once clearly said.

The interesting question here is why second-generation Muslims, who are presumably more Westernized than their Muslim parents, are also more “radical.” Lest one dismiss this phenomenon as a product of economics or some other “grievance” against European host nations, the fact is, even in America, where Muslims are much better assimilated than in Europe, young Muslims are turning to “radicalism.”

For example, some time back, Attorney General Eric Holder said that “the threat [of terrorism] has changed … to worrying about people in the United States, American citizens – raised here, born here, and who for whatever reason, have decided that they are going to become radicalized and take up arms against the nation in which they were born.”

Around the same time, Sue Myrick, then a member of Congress, wrote a particularly candid letter on “radicalization” to President Obama:

For many years we lulled ourselves with the idea that radicalization was not happening inside the United Sates. We believed American Muslims were immune to radicalization because, unlike the European counterparts, they are socially and economically well-integrated into society. There had been warnings that these assumptions were false but we paid them no mind. Today there is no doubt that radicalization is taking place inside America. The strikingly accelerated rate of American Muslims arrested for involvement in terrorist activities since May 2009 makes this fact self-evident.

Myrick named several American Muslims as examples of those who, while “embodying the American dream, at least socio-economically,” were still “radicalized,” astutely adding, “The truth is that if grievances were the sole cause of terrorism, we would see daily acts by Americans who have lost their jobs and homes in this economic downturn.”

Quite so. Yet, though Myrick’s observations were limited to the domestic scene, they raise the following, more cosmic, question: if American Muslims, who enjoy Western benefits – including democracy, liberty, prosperity, and freedom of expression – are still being radicalized, why do we insist that the importation of these same Western benefits to the Muslim world will eliminate its even more indigenous or authentic form of “radicalization”?

After all, the mainstream position evoked by most politicians maintains that all U.S. sacrifices in the Muslim world (Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.) will pay off once Muslims discover how wonderful Western ways are, and happily slough off their “Islamist” veneer, which, as the theory goes, is a product of – you guessed it – a lack of democracy, liberty, prosperity, and freedom of expression.

Yet here are American and European Muslims, immersed in the bounties of the West, and still do they turn to violent jihad. Why think their counterparts, who are born and raised in the Muslim world, where Islam permeates every aspect of life, will respond differently?

In fact, far from eliminating “radicalization,” Western values can actually exacerbate Islamic tendencies – hence why second-generation “Westernized” Muslims are also becoming more “radicalized” than their parents.

Some already known that Western concessions to Islam – in the guise of multiculturalism, “cultural sensitivity,” political correctness, and self-censorship – only bring out the worst of Islam’s “schoolyard bully.” Yet even some of the most prized aspects of Western civilization – personal freedom, rule of law, human dignity – when articulated through an Islamic framework, have the capacity to “radicalize” Muslims.

Consider: the West’s commitment to the law as supreme arbitrator, for the Westernized Muslim becomes a commitment to establish and enforce Islamic law, sharia; the West’s commitment to democracy, for the Westernized Muslim becomes a commitment to theocracy, including an anxious impulse to resurrect the caliphate; Western notions of human dignity and pride, when articulated through an Islamic paradigm (which sees only fellow Muslims as equals) induces rage when Muslims – Palestinians, Afghanis, Iraqis, etc. – are seen under Western infidel dominion; Western notions of autonomy and personal freedom have even helped “Westernize” the notion of jihad into an individual duty, though it has traditionally been held by sharia as a communal duty.

In short, a set of noble principles articulated through a foreign paradigm can lead to abominations. In this case, the better principles of Western civilization are being devoured, absorbed, and regurgitated into something equally potent, though from the other end of the spectrum.

Put differently, just as a stress on human freedom, human dignity, and universal justice produces good humans, rearticulating these same concepts through an Islamic framework that qualifies them with the word “Muslim” – Muslim freedom, Muslim dignity, and Muslim justice – leads to what is being called “radicalization.”
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UK and US should join hands with Russia in war against radical Islam : Tony Blair

LONDON : Former British prime minister Tony Blair who will always be remembered as a man who took UK to war with Iraq along with US president George Bush now wants Britain to join hands with Russia in another war — that against radical Islam.

Blair has asked the UK and the US to put aside their differences with Russia over Ukraine and "co-operate" to fight a new enemy in the form of radical Islam which he felt governments in Europe and America had become "curiously reluctant to acknowledge".


Blair, who is now an active mitigator of peace in the Middle East, called the region including Pakistan or Iran "as a vast unfathomable mess with no end in sight and no one worthy of our support".

"An international programme to eradicate religious intolerance and prejudice from school systems and informal education systems and from organisations in civic society would have a huge galvanizing effect in making unacceptable what is currently ignored or tolerated," Blair said.

"Whatever our other differences, we should be prepared to reach out and cooperate with the East, and in particular, Russia and China. On this issue also, there is a complete identity of interest between East and West. China and Russia have exactly the same desire to defeat this ideology as do the USA and Europe. Here is a subject upon which all the principal nations of the G20 could come together, could agree to act, and could find common ground to common benefit," he added.

Blair said that Ukraine has served to push the Middle East to the inside pages, with the carnage of Syria featuring somewhat, but the chaos of Libya, whose government we intervened to change, hardly meriting a mention. However the Middle East matters. What is presently happening there, still represents the biggest threat to global security of the early 21st century.

Blair added, "The region, including the wider area outside its conventional boundary - Pakistan, Afghanistan to the east and North Africa to the west - is in turmoil with no end in sight to the upheaval and any number of potential outcomes from the mildly optimistic to catastrophe. At the root of the crisis lies a radicalized and politicized view of Islam, an ideology that distorts and warps Islam's true message. The threat of this radical Islam is not abating. It is growing. It is spreading across the world. It is de-stabilizing communities and even nations".

Blair said there were four reasons why the Middle East remains of central importance. First it is still where a large part of the world's energy supplies are generated. Secondly, it is right on the doorstep of Europe. Third, in the centre of this maelstrom, is Israel. Its alliance with the USA, its partnership with leading countries of Europe, and the fact that it is a Western democracy, mean that its fate is never going to be a matter of indifference. "Finally and least obvious, is a reason we are curiously reluctant to admit, in part because the admission would throw up some very difficult policy choices. It is in the Middle East that the future of Islam will be decided. Wherever you look - from Iraq to Libya to Egypt to Yemen to Lebanon to Syria and then further afield to Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan - this is the essential battle".

According to Blair, in the last 50 years, there has been a steady stream of funding, proselytizing, organizing and promulgating coming out of the Middle East, pushing views of religion that are narrow minded and dangerous.

"The the Muslim population in Europe is now over 40 million and growing. The Muslim Brotherhood and other organisations are increasingly active and they operate without much investigation or constraint.
We change the regime in Libya through air power, we don't commit forces on the ground, again the people initially respond well, but now Libya is a mess and a mess that is de-stabilising everywhere around it".

Blair added, "In Syria, we call for the regime to change, we encourage the Opposition to rise up, but then when Iran activates Hezbollah on the side of Assad, we refrain even from air intervention to give the Opposition a chance. The result is a country in disintegration, millions displaced, a death toll approximating that of Iraq, with no end in sight and huge risks to regional stability. Then there has been the so-called Arab Spring. At first we jumped in to offer our support to those on the street. We are now bemused and bewildered that it hasn't turned out quite how we expected".

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Peregrine wrote:UK and US should join hands with Russia in war against radical Islam : Tony Blair

LONDON :
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"The the Muslim population in Europe is now over 40 million and growing. The Muslim Brotherhood and other organisations are increasingly active and they operate without much investigation or constraint.[/b] We change the regime in Libya through air power, we don't commit forces on the ground, again the people initially respond well, but now Libya is a mess and a mess that is de-stabilising everywhere around it".


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Wait another 25 years and you will see this 40 million turning in to 100 million and formation of new continent called eurabia.

Mr. Blair must be missing his neo-con friends president bush, dick cheney, etc with whom he had fun bombing innocent iraqis. Remember the shock and awe campaign. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Tony B(liar) seems to be an Islamophobe. There is growing Islamophobia in UK. Will concentration camps be set up? Right thinking British people, intellectuals, local and international human rights organizations should take note of this and fight this militant Islamophobia. Priyamvada should write an intellectual article and fight this.
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Peregrine wrote:UK and US should join hands with Russia in war against radical Islam : Tony BlairLONDON : Former British prime minister Tony Blair who will always be remembered as a man who took UK to war with Iraq along with US president George Bush now wants Britain to join hands with Russia in another war — that against radical Islam.


Peregrine JI, Seems Atul Singh was able to open Blair's eyes. :wink:
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X Posted from the “Oppression of Minorities In Pakistan” thread.

ET article on the subject of Green on Green intra-Mohammadden religion motivated sectarian killings in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country claimed to have been created as a safe haven for the Mohammaddens of the Indian Sub-Continent, over the past 5 years:

Sectarian violence: Over 2,000 people killed in 5 years, Interior Ministry tells Senate

Reading the above ET article made me realise that I had over the past five years come across no such similar instances of internecine killings in other religious groups such as Buddhists, Christists, Hindus, Jains or Jews over issues of interpretation of religion anywhere in the world. Can anyone thus enlighten if there were similar cases over the past five years anywhere in the world, of Hinayana Buddhists killing Mahayana Buddhists or vice versa, or Catholic Christists killing Protestant Christists or vice versa, or Shivite Hindus killing Vaishnavite Hindus or vice versa, or Digamber Jains killing Shwetamber Jains or vice versa, or Ashkanazie Jews killing Sephardic Jews or Vice versa; all over differences of interpretation of their respective religions? Or is it that the Mohammaddenism is somehow a special lone case among the world’s religions when it comes to the matter of killing co-religionists over interpretation of own religion?
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akashganga wrote:
Peregrine wrote:UK and US should join hands with Russia in war against radical Islam : Tony Blair

LONDON :
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"The the Muslim population in Europe is now over 40 million and growing. The Muslim Brotherhood and other organisations are increasingly active and they operate without much investigation or constraint.[/b] We change the regime in Libya through air power, we don't commit forces on the ground, again the people initially respond well, but now Libya is a mess and a mess that is de-stabilising everywhere around it".


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Wait another 25 years and you will see this 40 million turning in to 100 million and formation of new continent called eurabia.

Mr. Blair must be missing his neo-con friends president bush, dick cheney, etc with whom he had fun bombing innocent iraqis. Remember the shock and awe campaign. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
So should UK or any Western power for that matter join others the war against radical Islam or not?

We still have much to go before we understand our own priorities and let go of mean mentality.

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Much better with Eurabia first, at least we will be the last victim. That's a consolation prize.
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SanjayC :

A great opportunity for the Designers and Manufacturers of Butt Exhaust Mufflers!

They might even add an in-built "Perfumed Spray".
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Sexist critique of clearly gender-specific ban by Islamic city council's wise people!
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1,300 Muslims leave C. African Republic capital

BANGUI, Central African Republic (AP) — Heavily armed peacekeepers escorted some of the last remaining Muslims out of Central African Republic's volatile capital on Sunday, trucking more than 1,300 people who for months had been trapped by violent Christian militants.

Within minutes of the convoy's departure, an angry swarm of neighbours descended upon the mosque in a scene of total anarchy. Tools in hand, they swiftly dismantled and stole the loudspeaker once used for the call to prayer and soon stripped the house of worship of even its ceiling fan blades.

One man quickly scrawled "Youth Center" in black marker across the front of the mosque. Others mockingly swept the dirt from the ground in front of the building with brooms and shouted "We have cleaned Central African Republic of the Muslims!"

"We didn't want the Muslims here and we don't want their mosque here anymore either," said Guy Richard, 36, who loads baggage onto trucks for a living, as he and his friends made off with pieces of the mosque.

Armed Congolese peacekeepers stood watch but did not fire into the air or attempt to stop the looting. Soon teams of thieves were stripping the metal roofs of nearby abandoned Muslim businesses in the PK12 neighbourhood of Bangui. "Pillage! Pillage!" children cried as they helped cart away wood and metal.

"The Central Africans have gone crazy, pillaging a holy place," said Congolese peacekeeper Staff Sgt. Pety-Pety, who refused to give his first name, as the mosque came under attack from militants. The anti-Balaka fighters showed up in their trademark wigs and hats with animal horns, donned in the amulets they believe protect them from the enemy's bullets.

Sunday's exodus further partitions the country, a process that has been underway since January, when a Muslim rebel government gave up power nearly a year after overthrowing the president of a decade.

The United Nations has described the forced displacement of tens of thousands of Muslims as "ethnic cleansing." While previous groups have been taken to neighbouring Chad, Sunday's convoys were headed to two towns in the north on the Central African Republic side of the border.

Joanne Mariner, a senior crisis adviser for Amnesty International, said the people evacuated Sunday had lived in daily fear for months.

"It's tragic and inexcusable that the situation was allowed to fall apart so that in the end evacuation was the only way to save people's lives," she said. "Much more should have been done to prevent ethnic cleansing in December and January, before tens of thousands of Muslims had fled."

The long-chaotic country's political crisis has prompted fears of genocide since it first intensified in December when Christian militants stormed the capital in an attempt to overthrow the Muslim rebel government. They soon began attacking Muslim civilians accused of having collaborated with the much despised rebels.

The rebel leader-turned-president ultimately resigned, and mob killings of Muslims and mutilation of their bodies took place on a near-daily basis in Bangui earlier this year. Tens of thousands of Muslims were escorted to safety in neighboring Chad, though earlier convoys were fraught with violence. Militants lined the streets and attacked departing trucks, at one point beating a man to death after he fell from his vehicle.

The violence against Muslims has drawn international concern, prompting the world's largest bloc of Islamic countries to send a 14-delegate fact-finding mission to Central African Republic. The Organization of Islamic Cooperation says delegates will be in the capital for three days starting Tuesday.

In an effort to avoid chaos, Sunday's convoy had been scheduled to depart at dawn, not long after men prayed in the mosque for the last time and lightning flickered in the dark sky.

It took hours, though, for the families to load up their wares, from plastic jugs for water to bicycles, and even satellite dishes and chairs. In starting a new life in an unknown city, many said they were bringing anything of value that they could sell there to make money.

Tonga Djobo, 75, in a long flowing gown, prayer cap and orthopaedic shoes, steadied himself with a stick he used to prod cattle that also doubled as a cane. He said he first came to Central African Republic 47 years ago from neighbouring Chad.

Today would be the last day of his life he would spend in Bangui, he declared, joyously pumping his fists in the air. Meanwhile, his wife and family carted their wares all wrapped in bright wax-print fabrics to their assigned truck and waited to board.

With his teeth caked in slivers of cola nuts, the elderly cattle herder said he had tried to climb aboard earlier departing convoys but there had not been enough space.

"I leave with a heavy heart but we have been chased from here," he said. "The things I have seen these last few months — even an unborn baby cut from his dead mother's womb. These Christian militia fighters are barbarians."

Each family was assigned a truck number and given a pass that they handed over as their names were called from the list. One by one, the families climbed up wooden ladders into the open air transport trucks where they sat on their belongings. Some of the men sat closest to the edge and sported bows and arrows for self-defence, while others wore machete sheaths slung across their backs.

African peacekeepers from the mission, known as MISCA, along with French forces stood watch along the route out of Bangui.

Adama Djilda, 45, said her 7-month-old son Zakariah had now spent more than half his life trapped inside the PK12 neighbourhood. As she breastfed him early Sunday while awaiting a truck to board, she said she didn't care which town the peacekeepers took her as long as she got out of Bangui.

Four months ago, she said, the Christian militia fighters gunned down her husband while he was farming in his field, leaving her a widow and mother of seven. For months now the family has slept restlessly in constant fear of grenade attacks in the neighbourhood.

Awaiting her departure, she said: "Only God knows how much we have suffered here."

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Peregrine wrote:1,300 Muslims leave C. African Republic capital

BANGUI, Central African Republic (AP) — Heavily armed peacekeepers escorted some of the last remaining Muslims out of Central African Republic's volatile capital on Sunday, trucking more than 1,300 people who for months had been trapped by violent Christian militants.

Joanne Mariner, a senior crisis adviser for Amnesty International, said the people evacuated Sunday had lived in daily fear for months.

"It's tragic and inexcusable that the situation was allowed to fall apart so that in the end evacuation was the only way to save people's lives," she said. "Much more should have been done to prevent ethnic cleansing in December and January, before tens of thousands of Muslims had fled."

The violence against Muslims has drawn international concern, prompting the world's largest bloc of Islamic countries to send a 14-delegate fact-finding mission to Central African Republic. The Organization of Islamic Cooperation says delegates will be in the capital for three days starting Tuesday.
My, my, I am surprised there are no protests and delegations from the Western countries. They always pride themselves in being on the scene first. Wonder what "facts" this mission from the OIC will unearth? Looks like the Central African Muslims are not as important as some other Muslims, if the OIC is thinking of finding "facts" first instead of threatening that country.

"I leave with a heavy heart but we have been chased from here," he said. "The things I have seen these last few months — even an unborn baby cut from his dead mother's womb. These Christian militia fighters are barbarians."
Do these things really happen? This was being repeated non-stop in the aftermath of the Godhra riots too.
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^--- these are stolen from the poor aggrieved Muslim playbook. :(( :((
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^^yes indeed. It is SOP and not just among Muslim losing parties. All sides evoke this horror. Not that it does not happen, sure it does... But I'm just not sure why exactly it is much worse to do than say decapitation...which is at least happily uploaded on various online sites as if to say "hey look at me, see what I just did"!!!
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ramana wrote:Chandragupta, Good effort. Hope it convinces the person.

BTW, the Teesta Setalvad womb ripping story is an Ismalist meme from ealry days of Muhaamed and his mauruders.

I will get you the link.
My contention is that lie is included to evoke memories of early Islam and make all the folks nod their heads in unison that such brutality is possible.


I also would like a similar comprhesive effort on the Jaffery incident.
- His background
- How many were killed at his house
- Did he shelter the train burners?
Ramana garu,
great pointer. Indeed this 'ripping the womb' open seems to be a meme. A cursory google search led me to:

a book(in google books) named The History of Afghanistan (6 vol. set). It is a translation of Fayz Muhammad Katib Hazhrah's book Siraj Al-Tawarikh. It was translated and edited by Robert McChesney and Mohammad Mehdi Khorrami.

wiki on Siraj Al-Tawarikh
Siraj al-Tawarikh is a book on the 18th and 19th century Afghan History by Faiz Mohammad Katib Hazara.[2] The author was a historian in Emir's court. The book has three editions, two published and one unpublished.[3]
wiki on Fayz Muhammad Katib Hazrah:
Name: Faiz Mohammad Katib Hazara
Born: 1862-63 Ghazni, Afghanistan
Died: March 3, 1931. Kabul, Afghanistan
Resting place: Afghanistan
Occupation: Historian, Intellectual, Calligrapher, Afghan court chronicler and secretary to the amir Habib Ullah Khan
Language: Dari, Arabic, English, and Urdu
Nationality: Afghanistan
Ethnicity: Hazara
Citizenship: Afghanistan
So, what is there in that book about ripping open the wombs?
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Page 52-53.
Link to Google book


This meme, it seems is present in Bible as well.
Gods Punishment in the Bible: Pregnant Women will be ripped open!

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Hosea 13:16 (New Living Translation) - The people of Samaria must bear the consequences of their guilt because they rebelled against their God. They will be killed by an invading army, their little ones dashed to death against the ground, their pregnant women ripped open by swords."

Hosea 13:16 (King James) Samaria will bear her guilt because she has rebelled against her God.
They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open.


Below John Calvin’s (1509-1564 ) classical bible commentary,
Calvin’s Commentaries (Hosea 13:16) http://www.ccel.org/c/calvin/comment3/comm_index.htm :

This is the conclusion of the discourse: this verse has then been improperly separated from the former chapter 1; for the Prophet enters not here on a new subject, but only confirms what he had said of the ultimate destruction of Samaria and of the whole kingdom. Samaria then shall be desolated; as though he said "I have already often denounced on you what you believe not, that destruction is nigh at hand; of this be now persuaded; but if you believe not, God will yet execute what he has determined, and what he now pronounces by my mouth." At the same time he adds the cause, For they have provoked their God. That they might not complain that they were severely dealt with, he says, that they only suffered the punishment which they deserved. He also specifies the kind of destruction that was to be, They shall fall by the sword, their children shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women squall be torn asunder, that the child may be extracted from the womb. In saying that the citizens of Samaria, and the inhabitants of the whole country, shall fall by the sword, he doubtless intimates that God would make use of this kind of punishment by sending for enemies who would consign them to destruction.

We now then see what is included in the words of the Prophet. He first shows that it was all over with Samaria and the whole kingdom of Israel; as God could by no means bring them to repentance, he would now take vengeance on so desperate an obstinacy. He afterwards shows that God would do this justly, because he had been provoked; and, lastly, he shows what kind their punishment would be. That they might not think that the Assyrians would come by chance, the Prophet says that this army, which was to invade and destroy the country of Samaria, would be, as it were, conducted by the hand of God; for though the Assyrians wished to extend their own borders, and were influenced by their own avarice and cupidity, yet God would use them as instruments to execute his own judgement; and that they might know how dreadful the vengeance would be, he relates two kinds of evils, -- that their children would be dashed in pieces, and that their women would be rent asunder, and their offspring extracted from their wombs. Even to speak of this is horrible; and it is what never takes place, except when enemies are greatly enraged and extremely provoked. We now then comprehend the meaning of the Prophet.

But if any one objects and says, that infants, and babes as yet concealed in the wombs of their mothers, deserve not such a grievous punishment, as they have not hitherto merited such a thing; it may be answered, that the whole human race are guilty before God, so that infants though not yet come forth to the light, are yet included as being under guilt; so that God cannot be charged with cruelty, though he may use his own right towards them. And further, we hear what he declares in many places, that he will devolve the sins of parents on their children. Since it is so, let us learn to acquiesce in these awful judgements of God, though very repugnant to our feelings; for we know that we must not contend with God, and that it would be extreme presumption to do so; nay, it would be impious audacity. Though then the reason for this punishment may not appear to us, we ought yet reverently to regard this judgement of God.

Source: http://www.ccel.org/c/calvin/comment3/c ... /xx.xi.htm

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Peregrine wrote:1,300 Muslims leave C. African Republic capital

BANGUI, Central African Republic (AP) — Heavily armed peacekeepers escorted some of the last remaining Muslims out of Central African Republic's volatile capital on Sunday, trucking more than 1,300 people who for months had been trapped by violent Christian militants.

Within minutes of the convoy's departure, an angry swarm of neighbours descended upon the mosque in a scene of total anarchy. Tools in hand, they swiftly dismantled and stole the loudspeaker once used for the call to prayer and soon stripped the house of worship of even its ceiling fan blades.

One man quickly scrawled "Youth Center" in black marker across the front of the mosque. Others mockingly swept the dirt from the ground in front of the building with brooms and shouted "We have cleaned Central African Republic of the Muslims!"

"We didn't want the Muslims here and we don't want their mosque here anymore either," said Guy Richard, 36, who loads baggage onto trucks for a living, as he and his friends made off with pieces of the mosque.

Armed Congolese peacekeepers stood watch but did not fire into the air or attempt to stop the looting. Soon teams of thieves were stripping the metal roofs of nearby abandoned Muslim businesses in the PK12 neighbourhood of Bangui. "Pillage! Pillage!" children cried as they helped cart away wood and metal.

"The Central Africans have gone crazy, pillaging a holy place," said Congolese peacekeeper Staff Sgt. Pety-Pety, who refused to give his first name, as the mosque came under attack from militants. The anti-Balaka fighters showed up in their trademark wigs and hats with animal horns, donned in the amulets they believe protect them from the enemy's bullets.

Sunday's exodus further partitions the country, a process that has been underway since January, when a Muslim rebel government gave up power nearly a year after overthrowing the president of a decade.

The United Nations has described the forced displacement of tens of thousands of Muslims as "ethnic cleansing." While previous groups have been taken to neighbouring Chad, Sunday's convoys were headed to two towns in the north on the Central African Republic side of the border.

Joanne Mariner, a senior crisis adviser for Amnesty International, said the people evacuated Sunday had lived in daily fear for months.

"It's tragic and inexcusable that the situation was allowed to fall apart so that in the end evacuation was the only way to save people's lives," she said. "Much more should have been done to prevent ethnic cleansing in December and January, before tens of thousands of Muslims had fled."

The long-chaotic country's political crisis has prompted fears of genocide since it first intensified in December when Christian militants stormed the capital in an attempt to overthrow the Muslim rebel government. They soon began attacking Muslim civilians accused of having collaborated with the much despised rebels.

The rebel leader-turned-president ultimately resigned, and mob killings of Muslims and mutilation of their bodies took place on a near-daily basis in Bangui earlier this year. Tens of thousands of Muslims were escorted to safety in neighboring Chad, though earlier convoys were fraught with violence. Militants lined the streets and attacked departing trucks, at one point beating a man to death after he fell from his vehicle.

The violence against Muslims has drawn international concern, prompting the world's largest bloc of Islamic countries to send a 14-delegate fact-finding mission to Central African Republic. The Organization of Islamic Cooperation says delegates will be in the capital for three days starting Tuesday.

In an effort to avoid chaos, Sunday's convoy had been scheduled to depart at dawn, not long after men prayed in the mosque for the last time and lightning flickered in the dark sky.

It took hours, though, for the families to load up their wares, from plastic jugs for water to bicycles, and even satellite dishes and chairs. In starting a new life in an unknown city, many said they were bringing anything of value that they could sell there to make money.

Tonga Djobo, 75, in a long flowing gown, prayer cap and orthopaedic shoes, steadied himself with a stick he used to prod cattle that also doubled as a cane. He said he first came to Central African Republic 47 years ago from neighbouring Chad.

Today would be the last day of his life he would spend in Bangui, he declared, joyously pumping his fists in the air. Meanwhile, his wife and family carted their wares all wrapped in bright wax-print fabrics to their assigned truck and waited to board.

With his teeth caked in slivers of cola nuts, the elderly cattle herder said he had tried to climb aboard earlier departing convoys but there had not been enough space.

"I leave with a heavy heart but we have been chased from here," he said. "The things I have seen these last few months — even an unborn baby cut from his dead mother's womb. These Christian militia fighters are barbarians."

Each family was assigned a truck number and given a pass that they handed over as their names were called from the list. One by one, the families climbed up wooden ladders into the open air transport trucks where they sat on their belongings. Some of the men sat closest to the edge and sported bows and arrows for self-defence, while others wore machete sheaths slung across their backs.

African peacekeepers from the mission, known as MISCA, along with French forces stood watch along the route out of Bangui.

Adama Djilda, 45, said her 7-month-old son Zakariah had now spent more than half his life trapped inside the PK12 neighbourhood. As she breastfed him early Sunday while awaiting a truck to board, she said she didn't care which town the peacekeepers took her as long as she got out of Bangui.

Four months ago, she said, the Christian militia fighters gunned down her husband while he was farming in his field, leaving her a widow and mother of seven. For months now the family has slept restlessly in constant fear of grenade attacks in the neighbourhood.

Awaiting her departure, she said: "Only God knows how much we have suffered here."

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You want recent example of christian against christian violence. It happened in early 90s in rwanda in africa where hutus and tutsis went after each other leaving about a million dead. Both hutus and tutsis are majority christian catholics. If you go back in time to second world war, more than 40 or 50 million perished in europe. Both abrahamic faiths of islam and christianity at their core are violent.
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X Posted from the “Oppression of Minorities In Pakistan” thread.

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan scores heavily in the “People Under Threat” 2014 Index. The “Peoples under Threat” index identifies those countries around the world where communities face the greatest risk of genocide, mass killing or systematic violent repression.

In 2014 the Islamic Republic of Pakistan came in within the 10 highest rated countries at 7th position being beaten by Somalia, Sudan, Syria, D.R.Congo, Afghanistan and Iraq and in turn beating out Myanmar, Ethiopia and Yemen.

Interestingly Pakistan which had been vociferously complaining about human rights violations in Myanmar was rated worse than Myanmar. 7 of the 10 highest rated countries are preponderantly made up of adherents of Mohammaddenism.

Extract from the report regards the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:
While the deadly conflict in Pakistan with Islamist armed groups in the north-west draws most international media attention, the threat of ethnic or sectarian killing reaches across the country. This includes risks from interethnic political violence in Sindh, sectarian clashes between Deobandi and Barelvi militant groups, violent repression of Baluchi activists in Baluchistan, continued persecution of Christians and Ahmadiyya, and an exterminatory campaign against Hazara and other Shi’a across the country waged by Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Sipah-e-Sahaba and the Pakistani Taliban, which claimed the lives of hundreds of victims last year.
Read it here:

Peoples under Threat 2014
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Brunei introduces tough Islamic penal code
Brunei will introduce a tough Islamic penal code from Thursday, its leader has announced.

Sharia punishments that will include the severing of limbs for theft and death by stoning for adulterers will be brought in over three years.

In April, the UN voiced "deep concern" about the planned change.

Brunei already adheres to a stronger form of Islamic law than neighbouring Malaysia and Indonesia, banning the sale and consumption of alcohol.

The tiny state, on the island of Borneo, is ruled by Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah and has grown rich on oil and gas exports.

Almost three-quarters of those who live there are Malay Muslims, but there are sizeable Buddhist and Christian communities.

'Degrading treatment'
The move - delayed from last week - came from the Sultan.

"Today... I place my faith in and am grateful to Allah the almighty to announce that tomorrow, Thursday 1 May 2014, will see the enforcement of Sharia law phase one, to be followed by the other phases," AFP news agency quoted him as saying.

The penal code will be introduced over three years, with offences in the first phase covered by fines and prison sentences, the Brunei Times reported.

About 70% of those in Brunei are Malay Muslims

Amputations come under the second phase, and stoning, for crimes including adultery and homosexual acts, under the third phase.

When he announced it last year the Sultan, 67, one of the world's wealthiest men, called the code "a part of the great history of our nation".

The move sparked a rare strong response on social media. In February the Sultan warned internet users to stop attacking his plans.

Officials have said in the past judges would be given discretion in sentencing. It is not clear to what extent the code will apply to non-Muslims.

"The law states that the Order shall apply to both Muslims and non-Muslims, except where expressly provided," the Brunei Times wrote.

Brunei's civil courts are based on British law, a leftover from the sultanate's days as a British protectorate. Its Sharia courts were previously limited to family matters like marriage and inheritance.

The UN in April urged Brunei to delay the changes so they could be reviewed to make sure they complied with international human rights standards.

"Under international law, stoning people to death constitutes torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment and is thus clearly prohibited," spokesman for the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Rupert Colville told a news conference in early April.

Mr Colville added that the revised penal code "may encourage further violence and discrimination against women" due to "deeply entrenched" stereotypes.
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Mohammadden religious doctrine of “Ma malakat aymanukum” or translated "what your right hands possess" being practised by Boko Haram Mohammadden Terrorists in Nigeria?

This above mentioned doctrine of Mohammaddenism reportedly makes it “lawful for male masters to have sexual relations with female captives and slaves, regardless of whether or not the slave woman gives her consent.” :

Nigeria: kidnapped schoolgirls 'sold as wives to Islamist fighters'
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On a pic where Syrian rebels were shown cutting the hand of a pic, was having a 'discussion' with a Syrian Pro-Assad type lamenting the Salafist/ Wahabbi version is not true Islam. I reminded him about why the Islamist Salafi/ wahabbi interpretation maybe the true Islam but he would have none of it. Till this exchange..(i am the 'islamophobe' in the xchange)

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From Nighwatch:

Nigeria: Update.

A local leader in northern Nigeria said familiy members have received reports that Boko Haram terrorists took the abducted teenage school girls to Cameroon and Chad. They are being treated as wives or slaves.

Boko Haram is perfectly following Islam. Koi Shaq?
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Saudi Arabia calls for criticism of religion to be outlawed in Norway
Saudi Arabia has called for all criticism of religion and of the prophet Mohammed to be made illegal in Norway. The call came during the United Nation's Universal Periodic Review (UPR) of Norway this week. The UPR is a process by which the UN reviews a selection of member states on their human rights performance.

Saudi also charged the Norwegian government with doing too little to counter criticism of the prophet Mohammed in the country, and failing to protect its Muslim citizens amidst a continuation of hate crimes against Muslims in the country.
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Islam Creates Monsters Says Psychologist
Danish psychologist Nicolai Sennels, an expert in working with Muslim youth criminal offenders, has written a new book entitled Among Criminal Muslims. A Psychologist’s Experience from the Copenhagen Municipality, and in an essay supporting the book, he claims that “Islam creates monsters.” A recent study out of Germany supports Sennels’ statement. It found that devout Muslims were more prone to violence than the non-Muslim participants in the study.

Sennels says Islam is different from other religions because the way it is taught brainwashes its youth with violent messages. Parents inflict violence on their children repeatedly, Sennels claims, and at the same time, deliver religious ideology. He says this behavior makes Muslim extremists far more violent than extremists of other religious faiths.

The brainwashing, as Sennels terms it, begins very early on in a child’s life, and religious messages are repeated vigorously along with a heavy dose of physical discipline. It is this combination of pain and reinforcement, Sennels claims, that creates Islamic “monsters” who then feel justified in torturing and killing innocent people.

Sennels points out that parents want to indoctrinate their children into the religion as early as possible so that the kids will remain Muslim instead of looking to another faith—under Sharia law, turning against Islam is a crime punishable by death.

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Sennels says that in Muslim culture, the idea of “constructive criticism” doesn’t exist, and any criticism of Muslim identity will result in extreme anger and quite possibly, physical violence. The Quran itself, Sennels claims, does not allow for the idea of tolerance, and calls for Muslims to separate from non-Muslims and view people of other faiths as inferior. This, in turn breeds hatred, Sennels claims. He explains:

The cultural and psychological cocktail of anger, low self-esteem, victim mentality, a willingness to be blindly guided by outer authorities, and an aggressive and discriminatory view toward non-Muslims, forced upon Muslims through pain, intimidation and mind-numbing repetitions of the Quran, is the reason why Islam creates monsters.

His remarks have stirred up a great deal of controversy, but a large study out of Germany, involving 45,000 teens, seems to support Sennels’ claims. In that study, a strong link between the level of religious Muslim belief and the willingness to participate in violence was revealed.

Notably, the study’s author undertook the project hoping it would prove the opposite outcome. Christian Pfeiffer, a scientist who works at the Criminal Research Institute in Saxony, said that he has been active in opposing any campaign to denigrate Muslims or other foreigners, and he was disappointed by the study results.
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Sex Jihad fatwa permits incest in Syria
Last year, according to Arabic media accounts, “Saudi cleric Nasser al-‘Umar issued a fatwa permitting mujahidin [jihadis] in Syria to have sex-jihad with their sisters [muharamhum] if no one else is available.
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Then they can continue the jihad to empower Islam, in accordance with the Koran: “Allah has purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain” (Yusuf Ali trans. 9:111).

This verse has been traditionally understood as Muslim men selling “their persons,” that is, their bodies, to the jihad in exchange for paradise. In the context of sex jihad, however, Muslim women -- including sisters -- are also selling “their persons” (their bodies for sex) to indirectly empower the jihad, also in exchange for paradise.

The fact is, the maxim, “necessity makes the prohibited permissible,” is responsible for any number of seeming contradictions: Muslim women must chastely be covered head-to-toe -- yet, in the service of jihad, they are allowed to prostitute their bodies.

Homosexuality is forbidden -- but permissible if rationalized as a way to kill infidels. Lying is forbidden -- but permissible to empower Islam. Suicide is forbidden --but permissible during the jihad -- called “martyrdom.” Stealing is forbidden -- but the rightful booty of the jihadi who conquers infidels.
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What is this "Muslim world"?
http://www.dawn.com/news/1104665/muslim-worlds-silence
Muslim world’s silence



THE news from Nigeria is blood-curdling. Shrouded initially in mystery, the kidnapping of almost 300 Nigerian girls last month has now been owned by Boko Haram, with its chief threatening ‘by Allah’ to sell those girls in slave markets. In a chilling demonstration of his intentions, in the name of Islam, Boko Haram chief Abubakr Shekau released an hour-long video that showed his hooded acolytes raising rifles and shouting ‘Allah-o-Akbar’ as Shekau flaunted his criminality to the Nigerian people by declaring, “I abducted your girls”. Describing the girls as “slaves”, he had no qualms about saying he would repeat his actions. Over 50 of the girls have managed to flee, two have died of snakebite, many have been forced to marry and some have been forcibly converted — all in the name of Islam.

Last week, two explosions killed or injured more than 100 people, and police believe Boko Haram wanted to demonstrate its destructive power as Nigeria prepared to host the World Economic Forum. So far acts of terror by the Boko Haram militants and security crackdowns have led to over 1,500 deaths this year alone. But there is no indication yet that the Nigerian government has the political will to purposefully take on the extremists who have chosen murder and abduction as a strategy to advance their political aims for which they claim religious sanction. The Nigerian government has come under intense criticism at home for focusing all security measures on the WEF delegates and for ignoring the urgent task of recovering the girls.

However, the issue doesn’t concern Nigeria alone. Seen against the background of religious militancy that has rocked Muslim (as well as non-Muslim) countries from Indonesia to Morocco, Boko Haram’s latest act of crime against humanity poses a question or two to the entire Muslim world, especially its intellectuals and ulema. Will the Muslim world stay quiet over this debasement of their religion and look away from the Nigerian people’s trauma? Girls are abducted from schools because Boko Haram says it opposes ‘Western’ education. That an education can be ‘Western or Eastern’ is a debatable issue, but even if ‘Western education’ is all that devilish, was the mass kidnapping of the girls the best way to register protest? The Muslim world now must speak up. Those who accuse the Western media of tarring all Muslims with the same brush now have an excellent chance of correcting this erroneous perception by denouncing Boko Haram’s evil deed in unequivocal terms and by dissociating the international Islamic community from such fiendish crimes. In fact, such Islamic seats of learning as Deoband, Qom and Al Azhar must unite in expressing their abhorrence of the atrocity in Nigeria. Silence will mean the Muslim world’s tacit approval of Boko Haram’s misogynist brigandage.
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Boko Haram is being UnIslamic

Read comments below. :eek:
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UlanBatori wrote:Boko Haram is being UnIslamic

Read comments below. :eek:
Boko Haram should learn Islam: Malala over girls' abduction
"I think they haven't studied Islam yet, they haven't studied Quran yet, and they should go and they should learn Islam," the 16-year-old told the CNN.
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Boko Haram is perfectly following Islam.
"They are actually misusing the name of Islam because they have forgotten that the word islam means 'peace,'" Malala said.
It means Submission to the Almighty Allah. She forgot the headshot? :rotfl:
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A fortnight old article by Robert Fisk in the UK’s Independent on the genocide perpetrated by Mohammaddens targeting followers of Christism of Armenian origin:

A History of the First World War in 100 Moments: The Turkish holocaust begins
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There will be no changing of islamism just because some want to put a lipstick on the pig. Boko Haram is the creme le de dreme of the islamists. The purest as one can get without any shyness.

However, it has moved beyond Islam currently. All the jihadis must have had there fill and had their ways with the hapless girls. Now it is turning out a liability, because it is tough to guess and mange what is going through the minds of the captives, by the jihadis. Either suffering from Stockholm syndrome or to the extreme of suicidal thoughts or the kendostix sistahs way.

So, the guys are now playing a new gambit of pawning their abused captives in return for release of some of the other rank and file jihadis. Nothing to see here, move on. A usual day in the wonderful world of islamism dominated society. Just the normal day of the earlier glorious era of islamism, enacted in present day.
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Ahmadi Chimes in Proving every Kaffir right: There is no chance for reformation
What Prophet Muhammad would say to Boko Haram
( Practice Azal or Not)
I found myself awake at 3 am, reading the names of my Nigerian daughters—hundreds of them. Some shared the same name as my wife, Ayesha. Others shared the names of co-workers and friends, cousins and acquaintances.
As the international community finally expresses outrage and multinational efforts ensue to #BringBackOurGirls, I’m forced to remind everyone that I condemn this act not only as a father and a human being, but also as a Muslim.Education elevated women in Islam to a status of equality and elevated Europe out of the Dark Ages. Indeed, education is the solution to defeating Boko Haram ideology.Boko Haram’s claim that Islam motivates their kidnappings is no different than Adolf Hitler’s claim that Christianity motivated his genocide. This terrorist organization acts in direct violation of every Islamic teaching regarding women. Boko Haram violates the Koran 24:34 which commands, “and force not your women to unchaste life,” i.e. a condemnation of Boko Haram’s intention to sell these girls into prostitution. They violate Koran 4:20 which declares, “it is not lawful for you to inherit women against their will; nor should you detain them,” i.e. a specific repudiation of Boko Haram’s kidnapping and detention. The Koran could not be clearer that no person has the right to force any woman for any reason. I delve deeper into this topic in my upcoming book, Extremist.
Prophet Muhammad’s dying words embodied these commandments. He implored, “Do treat your women well and be kind to them, for they are your partners and committed helpers.” While he came to an Arab society entrenched in patriarchy and misogyny Muhammad instead taught, “It is the duty of every Muslim male and every Muslim female to attain education.”Notice the Prophet specified knowledge in general, not just religious knowledge. And where should Muslims search for this knowledge? At a time when Islam had not yet expanded past Arabia’s borders Muhammad wisely implored, “Seek knowledge even if you must travel to China.” Speaking of wise Prophet Muhammad added, “Wisdom is a Muslim’s lost property—he should embrace it wherever he finds it.” Last I checked, “wherever” includes the West. Indeed, attaining knowledge is not just an option for Muslims but as the Prophet declared, “The search of knowledge is an obligation laid upon every Muslim.”But the Koran’s commands and Prophet Muhammad’s acts aside—the ultimate test asks how well these teachings have played out in Islamic and world history.
In one word—amazingly.
Prophet Muhammad’s wife Khadija was not only the first person to accept his claim to prophethood, she ran a thriving trade business as a CEO during his lifetime. She was a leader, an entrepreneur, a mother, and a wife—all in one. Likewise, prior to and well after Prophet Muhammad’s death, his wife Ayesha became recognized as one of Islamic history’s premier jurists and scholars. By comparison, consider that it was only in the late 19th century that US states began granting women permission to become lawyers—insisting that such a vocation was not appropriate for a woman to handle.But while many have heard of Khadija and Ayesha, few have heard of Fatimah al-Fihri, who in 859—some two centuries after the Prophet died—founded humanity’s first degree-granting university. Fatimah was a Muslim, an African, a female, and literally changed world history through education.. Her revolutionary University of al-Qarawiyyin is now the world’s oldest universityFatimah’s university commanded immense respect—even attracting a young Catholic man named Gerbert of Auvergne. Those familiar with Catholic history know that Gerbert of Auvergne soon became His Holiness Pope Sylvester II—who ultimately introduced the concept of zero and Arabic numerals to a European subcontinent yet struggling through the medieval era.All this because of a Muslim female scholar. Could any of this have happened if the view of Islam that terrorists like Boko Haram espouse has a shred of truth to it?
Do not give the terrorists known as Boko Haram the dignity of attributing any religion to their name. Islam not only permits but also actively commands female education. Look to the glittering examples of Khadija, Ayesha, and Fatimah al-Fihri. Education elevated women in Islam to a status of equality and elevated Europe out of the Dark Ages. Indeed, education is the solution to defeating Boko Haram ideology.I will continue to lose sleep as long as I know my daughters are at the mercy of some of humanity’s most horrific people. May these terrorists receive swift justice, and may our daughters be afforded the opportunity to become our future scholars.
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Boko Haram violates the Koran 24:34 which commands, “and force not your women to unchaste life,” i.e. a condemnation of Boko Haram’s intention to sell these girls into prostitution.
Koran 24:34 states nothing of the sort this guy states. Here are 3 versions of the verse:
024.034
YUSUFALI: We have already sent down to you verses making things clear, an illustration from (the story of) people who passed away before you, and an admonition for those who fear (Allah).
PICKTHAL: And verily We have sent down for you revelations that make plain, and the example of those who passed away before you. An admonition unto those who ward off (evil).
SHAKIR: And certainly We have sent to you clear communications and a description of those who have passed away before you, and an admonition to those who guard (against evil).
They violate Koran 4:20 which declares, “it is not lawful for you to inherit women against their will; nor should you detain them,” i.e. a specific repudiation of Boko Haram’s kidnapping and detention. The Koran could not be clearer that no person has the right to force any woman for any reason
Again Verse 420 says no such thing, 3 versions are as follows:
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YUSUFALI: But if ye decide to take one wife in place of another, even if ye had given the latter a whole treasure for dower, Take not the least bit of it back: Would ye take it by slander and manifest wrong?
PICKTHAL: And if ye wish to exchange one wife for another and ye have given unto one of them a sum of money (however great), take nothing from it. Would ye take it by the way of calumny and open wrong?
SHAKIR: And if you wish to have (one) wife in place of another and you have given one of them a heap of gold, then take not from it anything; would you take it by slandering (her) and (doing her) manifest wrong?
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/

That is why i don't believe any of the so called 'liberal' Muslim apologists.
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Jhujar wrote:Ahmadi Chimes in Proving every Kaffir right: There is no chance for reformation
What Prophet Muhammad would say to Boko Haram
( Practice Azal or Not)
I agree there is no chance for reformation. Islam has thrived so far by using extreme violence and by granting special privileges to men by allowing them to have as many wives as they want which made men ultra vilent. Now with modern instant communications they are unable to hide their violence and truth. Their holy book explicitly permits violence against kafirs and apostates. How can their religion be reformed by purging these verses when there are so many of them. Can they do the same way another abrahamic faith christianity did over centuries by rewriting their holy book again and again by hiding the bad stuff and making it more and more attractive.

In the end satyameva jayate.
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Op-Ed by Ayaan Hirsi Ali in the Wall Street Journal states that Mohammadden Jihadist Terrorists “are about the oppression of women” :
Boko Haram and the Kidnapped Schoolgirls

The Nigerian terror group reflects the general Islamist hatred of women's rights. When will the West wake up?

By Ayaan Hirsi Ali
May 8, 2014 7:18 p.m. ET

Since the kidnapping of 276 schoolgirls in Nigeria last month, the meaning of Boko Haram—the name used by the terrorist group that seized the girls—has become more widely known. The translation from the Hausa language is usually given in English-language media as "Western Education Is Forbidden," though "Non-Muslim Teaching Is Forbidden" might be more accurate.

But little attention has been paid to the group's formal Arabic name: Jam'at Ahl as-Sunnah lid-da'wa wal-Jihad. That roughly translates as "The Fellowship of the People of the Tradition for Preaching and Holy War." That's a lot less catchy than Boko Haram but significantly more revealing about the group and its mission. Far from being an aberration among Islamist terror groups, as some observers suggest, Boko Haram in its goals and methods is in fact all too representative.

The kidnapping of the schoolgirls throws into bold relief a central part of what the jihadists are about: the oppression of women. Boko Haram sincerely believes that girls are better off enslaved than educated. The terrorists' mission is no different from that of the Taliban assassin who shot and nearly killed 15-year-old Pakistani Malala Yousafzai—as she rode a school bus home in 2012—because she advocated girls' education. As I know from experience, nothing is more anathema to the jihadists than equal and educated women.

How to explain this phenomenon to baffled Westerners, who these days seem more eager to smear the critics of jihadism as "Islamophobes" than to stand up for women's most basic rights? Where are the Muslim college-student organizations denouncing Boko Haram? Where is the outrage during Friday prayers? These girls' lives deserve more than a Twitter hashtag protest.

Organizations like Boko Haram do not arise in isolation. The men who establish Islamist groups, whether in Africa (Nigeria, Somalia, Mali), Southwest Asia (Afghanistan, Pakistan), or even Europe (U.K., Spain and the Netherlands), are members of long-established Muslim communities, most of whose members are happy to lead peaceful lives. To understand why the jihadists are flourishing, you need to understand the dynamics within those communities.

So, imagine an angry young man in any Muslim community anywhere in the world. Imagine him trying to establish an association of men dedicated to the practice of the Sunnah (the tradition of guidance from the Prophet Muhammad ). Much of the young man's preaching will address the place of women. He will recommend that girls and women be kept indoors and covered from head to toe if they are to venture outside. He will also condemn the permissiveness of Western society.

What kind of response will he meet? In the U.S. and in Europe, some moderate Muslims might quietly draw him to the attention of authorities. Women might voice concerns about the attacks on their freedoms. But in other parts of the world, where law and order are lacking, such young men and their extremist messages thrive.

Where governments are weak, corrupt or nonexistent, the message of Boko Haram and its counterparts is especially compelling. Not implausibly, they can blame poverty on official corruption and offer as an antidote the pure principles of the Prophet. And in these countries, women are more vulnerable and their options are fewer.

But why does our imaginary young zealot turn to violence? At first, he can count on some admiration for his fundamentalist message within the community where he starts out. He might encounter opposition from established Muslim leaders who feel threatened by him. But he perseveres because perseverance in the Sunnah is one of the most important keys to heaven. As he plods on from door to door, he gradually acquires a following. There comes a point when his following is as large as that of the Muslim community's established leaders. That's when the showdown happens—and the argument for "holy war" suddenly makes sense to him.

The history of Boko Haram has followed precisely this script. The group was founded in 2002 by a young Islamist called Mohammed Yusuf, who started out preaching in a Muslim community in the Borno state of northern Nigeria. He set up an educational complex, including a mosque and an Islamic school. For seven years, mostly poor families flocked to hear his message. But in 2009, the Nigerian government investigated Boko Haram and ultimately arrested several members, including Yusuf himself. The crackdown sparked violence that left about 700 dead. Yusuf soon died in prison—the government said he was killed while trying to escape—but the seeds had been planted. Under one of Yusuf's lieutenants, Abubakar Shekau, Boko Haram turned to jihad.

In 2011, Boko Haram launched its first terror attack in Borno. Four people were killed, and from then on violence became an integral part, if not the central part, of its mission. The recent kidnappings—11 more girls were abducted by Boko Haram on Sunday—join a litany of outrages, including multiple car bombings and the murder of 59 schoolboys in February. On Monday, as if to demonstrate its growing power, Boko Haram launched a 12-hour attack in the city of Gamboru Ngala, firing into market crowds, setting houses aflame and shooting down residents who ran from the burning buildings. Hundreds were killed.

I am often told that the average Muslim wholeheartedly rejects the use of violence and terror, does not share the radicals' belief that a degenerate and corrupt Western culture needs to be replaced with an Islamic one, and abhors the denigration of women's most basic rights. Well, it is time for those peace-loving Muslims to do more, much more, to resist those in their midst who engage in this type of proselytizing before they proceed to the phase of holy war.

It is also time for Western liberals to wake up. If they choose to regard Boko Haram as an aberration, they do so at their peril. The kidnapping of these schoolgirls is not an isolated tragedy; their fate reflects a new wave of jihadism that extends far beyond Nigeria and poses a mortal threat to the rights of women and girls. If my pointing this out offends some people more than the odious acts of Boko Haram, then so be it.

Ms. Ali is a fellow of the Belfer Center at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government. She is the founder of the AHA Foundation.
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To be fair the Koran does state this in 24:33 about not selling Slaves into prostitution:
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YUSUFALI: Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),

PICKTHAL: And let those who cannot find a match keep chaste till Allah give them independence by His grace. And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), write it for them if ye are aware of aught of good in them, and bestow upon them of the wealth of Allah which He hath bestowed upon you. Force not your slave-girls to whoredom that ye may seek enjoyment of the life of the world, if they would preserve their chastity. And if one force them, then (unto them), after their compulsion, lo! Allah will be Forgiving, Merciful.

SHAKIR: And let those who do not find the means to marry keep chaste until Allah makes them free from want out of His grace. And (as for) those who ask for a writing from among those whom your right hands possess, give them the writing if you know any good in them, and give them of the wealth of Allah which He has given you; and do not compel your slave girls to prostitution, when they desire to keep chaste, in order to seek the frail good of this world's life; and whoever compels them, then surely after their compulsion Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-t ... 24-qmt.php

Yet do note the qualifiers on the compulsion of selling them into prostitution.
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