J&K News and Discussion-2011

wig · Post by **wig** » 10 Sep 2014 17:01

Srinagar as usual,

In another incident, Army vehicles loaded with supplies were pelted with stones as they tried to make their way through Srinagar.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 182915.cms

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 10 Sep 2014 18:13

VikasRaina wrote:Why does it feel like as if floods have damaged only Kashmir and Jammu is enjoying warm summer sunshine when you goto media outlets.

allah ki meherbani.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 10 Sep 2014 18:40

Guys, emotions aside, we need to watch TSP taking advantage of this situation. Already the Harried b@stard is speaking his master's voice about bringing in UN. What can one do with such an ungrateful pig?

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-bu ... 536?#t=313

manjgu · Post by **manjgu** » 10 Sep 2014 18:41

i think the floods in kashmir are being made to look more dangerous than they actually are... people are marooned allright but not like swept away in raging currents...many are not traceable not because they have been swept away but simply because telecomm n/w are down ..both wireles/ wireline..as soon as communications are restored things should be better.... and howsoever hard the IA/IAF may try its simply not possible to touch all the people..once again there is nothin like civil administration.. everybody has disappeared !!! floods have also sunk Omar abdullahs already dim chances of re election

kish · Post by **kish** » 10 Sep 2014 19:37

Amidst the chaos of scotland referendum, racist brits never forgot 'cashmere' issue.

Debate on Human Rights Situation in Kashmir Causes Stir in UK Parliament

A debate on the human rights situation in Kashmir to be held in the UK Parliament building tomorrow has caused a stir among Indian groups here who fear it could be used as an India bashing opportunity.

Liberal Democrat MP David Ward has secured a 'General debate on political and humanitarian situation in Kashmir' as part of the regular Backbench Business Committee application process in the House of Commons.

Based on a petition by the 'Jammu & Kashmir Self-Determination Movement' which gained around 5,000 signatures, the Bradford East MP was able to push for the debate calling Kashmir dispute a "threat" to regional and global peace and to give the people "right to self- determination".

It has raised concerns among some Indian groups regarding the timing coinciding with the September 11 attacks anniversary as well as the focus of the debate.

"A number of British Indian organisations have contacted us expressing concerns on this Kashmir debate development in the House of Commons at this time because they fear that it could be used as an India/Indian bashing opportunity," said the Leicester-based British Hindu Voice in an appeal to its local MPs.

"If possible, please speak in the Kashmir debate and let your constituents know your and your party's stand on this subject," the appeal adds in reference to Leicester MPs Keith Vaz, John Ashworth and Liz Kendall.

The British Parliament's Backbench Business Committee meets weekly to consider requests for debates from any backbench MP on any subject, including those raised in e-petitions or national campaigns.

These debates are held in a chamber within the House of Commons complex and aimed at lobbying UK government on specific issues.

Around 20 British MPs, including Ward, Labour's shadow finance secretary Shabana Mahmood and secretary of the All Party Parliamentary Group for Kashmir Richard Harrington, are lined up to address the debate.

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 10 Sep 2014 19:47

wig wrote:Srinagar as usual,
In another incident, Army vehicles loaded with supplies were pelted with stones as they tried to make their way through Srinagar.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 182915.cms

Frankly speaking, Asuric tendencies accentuate during crisis. While we would expect a relief boat with food packet to be received with gratitude, a entitlement pasand mind will crib about the delay in arrival of the food packet. OA is trying to justify instead of admonishing the wrong behavior. If he had said "anger is understandable", I might have given him the benefit of doubt, no way is the anger "justified". He should have said "Anyone obstructing relief work is an enemy of the suffering people" or something to that effect.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 10 Sep 2014 21:21

Omar Abdullah himself is the biggest obstruction to relief work.

He cant name himself can he?

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 10 Sep 2014 21:33

^ To be fair to him, everyone in Kashmir is nothing but obstruction..It would have been the same response if OA's Daddy or Mufti "release the terrorist" sayyed or Mufti's good for nothing daughter were in power.

Let those pelting stones or being marooned be allowed to enjoy hospitality of Jhelum for few days. We would have seen a total different reponse.

menon s · Post by **menon s** » 10 Sep 2014 21:38

over 5 kms of fencing in LOC along jammu has been washed away.

http://www.jammu.amarujala.com/feature/ ... indi-news/

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 10 Sep 2014 21:49

kish wrote:Amidst the chaos of scotland referendum, racist brits never forgot 'cashmere' issue.

Debate on Human Rights Situation in Kashmir Causes Stir in UK Parliament

A debate on the human rights situation in Kashmir to be held in the UK Parliament building tomorrow has caused a stir among Indian groups here who fear it could be used as an India bashing opportunity.

Liberal Democrat MP David Ward has secured a 'General debate on political and humanitarian situation in Kashmir' as part of the regular Backbench Business Committee application process in the House of Commons.

Based on a petition by the 'Jammu & Kashmir Self-Determination Movement' which gained around 5,000 signatures, the Bradford East MP was able to push for the debate calling Kashmir dispute a "threat" to regional and global peace and to give the people "right to self- determination".

It has raised concerns among some Indian groups regarding the timing coinciding with the September 11 attacks anniversary as well as the focus of the debate.

"A number of British Indian organisations have contacted us expressing concerns on this Kashmir debate development in the House of Commons at this time because they fear that it could be used as an India/Indian bashing opportunity," said the Leicester-based British Hindu Voice in an appeal to its local MPs.

"If possible, please speak in the Kashmir debate and let your constituents know your and your party's stand on this subject," the appeal adds in reference to Leicester MPs Keith Vaz, John Ashworth and Liz Kendall.

The British Parliament's Backbench Business Committee meets weekly to consider requests for debates from any backbench MP on any subject, including those raised in e-petitions or national campaigns.

These debates are held in a chamber within the House of Commons complex and aimed at lobbying UK government on specific issues.

Around 20 British MPs, including Ward, Labour's shadow finance secretary Shabana Mahmood and secretary of the All Party Parliamentary Group for Kashmir Richard Harrington, are lined up to address the debate.

Wish there was debate in Indian parliament about providing moral support to Scotland for next coming referendum.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 10 Sep 2014 22:34

Cut diplomatic relations with UK. Openly support Irish independece and armed action to evict brits. Provide "moral, political and diplomatic" support to them openly. No visa etc to any brit to visit India including people of Indian extract.

No D class nation should be allowed to get away with this.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 10 Sep 2014 22:42

This has more to do with Britain's internal politics. Sleaze, vote buying, religion pandering, mendacious.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 10 Sep 2014 22:48

sanjaykumar wrote:This has more to do with Britain's internal politics. Sleaze, vote buying, religion pandering, mendacious.

I give a rats ass (Mod- No need to delete this word as it is the appropriate word for people who murdered looted my nation and murdered countless people of my nation) what are the reasons. Just kick their HC out of India and cut relations with them.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 10 Sep 2014 23:02

Narayana Rao wrote:Cut diplomatic relations with UK. Openly support Irish independece and armed action to evict brits. Provide "moral, political and diplomatic" support to them openly. No visa etc to any brit to visit India including people of Indian extract.

No D class nation should be allowed to get away with this.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 10 Sep 2014 23:04

manjgu wrote:i think the floods in kashmir are being made to look more dangerous than they actually are... people are marooned allright but not like swept away in raging currents...many are not traceable not because they have been swept away but simply because telecomm n/w are down ..both wireles/ wireline..as soon as communications are restored things should be better.... and howsoever hard the IA/IAF may try its simply not possible to touch all the people..once again there is nothin like civil administration.. everybody has disappeared !!! floods have also sunk Omar abdullahs already dim chances of re election

True. Typical kashmiriyat whining and melodrama. People were marooned but their lives were rarely in immediate danger. The valley is drained naturally quite well.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 10 Sep 2014 23:22

Joshi_Sa wrote:
Anantha wrote:
I Honestly believe that this was a good opportunity to get rid off few of these scums ...

Words like "international" and "conventions" come to such people only when they can't gang up and massacre some minority. Our beloved army has spent precious time and efforts to help these ungrateful jokers just so that they will be going back to backs tabbing routine once flood situation is over. Reminds of Karna in Mahabharata who started lecturing others on dharm the moment his chariot wheel was stuck in battleground.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 10 Sep 2014 23:28

Pictures from floods in Jammu
http://imgur.com/a/PyVHF

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 11 Sep 2014 04:36

Narayana Rao wrote:
sanjaykumar wrote:This has more to do with Britain's internal politics. Sleaze, vote buying, religion pandering, mendacious.
I give a rats ass (Mod- No need to delete this word as it is the appropriate word for people who murdered looted my nation and murdered countless people of my nation) what are the reasons. Just kick their HC out of India and cut relations with them.

Meanwhile back in the real world............

Also should we cut relations with America too? After all they pump billions to the Pakistani establishment who in turn launch attacks on and murder Indians. What about China - surely we must cut off ties with them given what they've been doing at the border.

Where will you stop?

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 11 Sep 2014 05:35

@rsingh ^^^

"Wish there was debate in Indian parliament about providing moral support to Scotland for next coming referendum."

You read my mind.

Instead of 'rushing to the well' etc. we could have debates on Scotland, Ireland and Wales with resolutions urging freedom

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 11 Sep 2014 06:49

In addition cancel orders for any new Gov purchases from UK. With most of other nations interested only in business, we can isolate the racist scumbags.
Also express concern in the parliament for human rights violation of Rotherham women by other "Brits". Even a moron like I.K. Gujral called UK a 3rd rate nation, when the UK foreign sec, talked about J &K.

sum · Post by **sum** » 11 Sep 2014 07:12

^^ Would expect to see some sort of "reaction" to this UK tamasha in coming months by GoI. Dont see the current GoI letting this go unnoticed.

manju · Post by **manju** » 11 Sep 2014 07:34

jamwal wrote:Pictures from floods in Jammu
http://imgur.com/a/PyVHF

The last picture in this link is amazing- a dog carrying its little one in its mouth across the flooding naala/river
http://i.imgur.com/q7SaEe3.jpg

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 11 Sep 2014 07:35

Hindu extremist nazis have reached Srinagar for releif efforts

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 11 Sep 2014 10:31

Was posted on my wall by a friend...

Just talked to our neighbor who yesterday returned from ZETHYAR by INDIAN AIRFORCE PLANE to Jammu, he narrated that process of evacuation is going per trip only 60 persons were boarding on Decota plane to Jammu...This process will be continue till every Kashmiri Hindu got shifted to Jammu.

He also narrated that local boatmen didn't pick any Kashmiri Hindu and Sikh from the localities of Inderanagar, Shivpora, Jawaher Nagar etc. and bluntly speak Modi will save you-- we have to save our muslim people during during local rescue operation...After that Army played vital
role in evacuating Hindus from these areas hats off to our army.

Local boatmen charge Rs1000/= per person for evacuation. Also Zeshta Devi Committee President Sh.BB Bhat along his team played vital by approaching Governor well in time for safe evacuation of Kashmiri Hindus to Jammu.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 11 Sep 2014 13:18

Atleast on twitter chatter, there is an attempt to forge a narrative that "local" groups are helping more than anyone else. And pleas are going to UN and other ummah countries for help.
It takes a special DNA to behave like this.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 11 Sep 2014 13:22

Why not this be photo of this year. While Armywalahs are doing all the work, locals are watching this with considerable comfort.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 11 Sep 2014 13:54

the face of the right side army jawan

member_28714 · Post by **member_28714** » 11 Sep 2014 15:20

Narayana Rao wrote:Cut diplomatic relations with UK. Openly support Irish independece and armed action to evict brits. Provide "moral, political and diplomatic" support to them openly. No visa etc to any brit to visit India including people of Indian extract.

No D class nation should be allowed to get away with this.

You forgot Falklands. Last bit of colonial strip.

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 11 Sep 2014 17:29

Why is the Army helping these anti-national media rats?

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 11 Sep 2014 20:20

Newest bridge over Tawi in Jammu.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 11 Sep 2014 20:22

Is there any need for Art 370 when they cannot even pitch in to rescue babies during floods?

So what is Art 370 there for protecting?

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 11 Sep 2014 21:46

He also narrated that local boatmen didn't pick any Kashmiri Hindu and Sikh from the localities of Inderanagar, Shivpora, Jawaher Nagar etc. and bluntly speak Modi will save you-- we have to save our muslim people during during local rescue operation...After that Army played vital
role in evacuating Hindus from these areas hats off to our army.

Any confirmation? There might be a backlash brewing.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 11 Sep 2014 21:50

In any other country, such an attitude by majority would make headlines and the locals would be subjected to investigations and punishment if found guilty.

ravip · Post by **ravip** » 11 Sep 2014 22:16

Did any one watch d ndtv show on Kashmir floods...col ajay shukla was saying that the stones are being pelted bcoz national media is showing only relief work by army and not local ppl....media is playing propogand for army and bcoz of dis there is lot of resentment in local ppl....his source is social media like fb an d twt....what a moron did this man turned out to be... how can he state this being a veteran.... Don't know wat runs in d veins of these ppl it seems sewage...!!!

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 11 Sep 2014 22:49

kmkraoind wrote:Why not this be photo of this year. While Armywalahs are doing all the work, locals are watching this with considerable comfort.

That is picture of a seven day old baby being rescued by the IA.

Abhi_G · Post by **Abhi_G** » 11 Sep 2014 22:57

Is there a way to thank the Army and let them know that we are proud of them in these difficult moments when they are working for 24 hours despite stone pelting and traitorous attitude KMs?

It is as if floods never happen in any other parts of India. What about swathes being washed off almost every year in Bihar. Bengal and Assam? People do not stone army folks bringing relief material.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 11 Sep 2014 23:39

The following story by forbes was found : the headline itself says disputed territory as if Kashmir is not an integral part of India. It further says the govt, especially Modi govt or State turned Nelson's Eye to the problem. Which is not true. Media has praised Modi's effort though being Muslim majority.

Please reply to comments section and post saying the author is a muslim and Forbes is trying to create bad impression among Americans. That too with the impending visit of Modiji to US.

Please write about the media coverage by the western media to the calamity

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mwani/2014/ ... territory/

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 12 Sep 2014 00:04

rohitvats wrote:
kmkraoind wrote:Why not this be photo of this year. While Armywalahs are doing all the work, locals are watching this with considerable comfort.

That is picture of a seven day old baby being rescued by the IA.

Posted it on my FB Timeline. Kudos to IA as always

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 12 Sep 2014 00:12

Abhi_G wrote:Is there a way to thank the Army and let them know that we are proud of them in these difficult moments when they are working for 24 hours despite stone pelting and traitorous attitude KMs?

It is as if floods never happen in any other parts of India. What about swathes being washed off almost every year in Bihar. Bengal and Assam? People do not stone army folks bringing relief material.

Sorry Abhi_G, I would rather have these KM's suffer and rot like so many other things. Ungratefulness should not be rewarded. Sometimes a kick on the backside is the best medicine.
As always KM's just sat on their bums including the current CM and hoped that IA and GoI would save them as always and that is exactly what happened and yet these ingrates complain.

We need to read the story of scorpion and the frog once again.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 12 Sep 2014 02:24

Sometimes one helps for ones own conscience, not necessarily succor.