Delhi Case Follow-up thread

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Mar 2014 22:35

chetak wrote:
Jhujar wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/01/12 ... for-women/
India makes first gun designed for women

No suitable weapon for the Indian Armed forces but something for women??

At 1.2 lakhs a pop and gun licenses being refused for most people this is completely useless product.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 14 Mar 2014 12:55

I would prefer them to live in fear of being suicided by other inmates in Tihar jail till they are hanged.
But still they would be lucky to not be given exactly the same treatment that they did to to poor victim.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 15 Mar 2014 20:23

SC stays death penalty of two Delhi gang-rape convicts till March 31

NEW DELHI: The Supreme Court on Saturday stayed the death penalty till March 31 of two of the four convicts — Mukesh and Pawan — in the Delhi gang-rape case.

Mukesh and Pawan, two of the four men convicted in the case, had approached the Supreme Court after the Delhi high court on Thursday upheld the death sentence for all four men convicted by a trial court.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 18 Mar 2014 23:50

Whats going on? The SC gets to review all death penalty cases. So its not as if the sentences were to be carried out. What new twist in this case?

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 20 Mar 2014 22:56

The Mumbai rapists have been convicted. Face 20 years to life in prison.

2 juveniles are still under trial. Juvenile law needs to be change IMHO. Even though it may be too late for these two.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 20 Mar 2014 23:57

Theo_Fidel wrote:The Mumbai rapists have been convicted. Face 20 years to life in prison.

2 juveniles are still under trial. Juvenile law needs to be change IMHO. Even though it may be too late for these two.

many are repeat offenders.

for them it looks like DEATH!! (as per the new law)

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 21 Mar 2014 01:26

Which case please?

Lilo, hats off to your two twitter handles. They work very well and pick up most of the English media reports.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 05 Apr 2014 06:09

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/05/world ... .html?_r=0
3 men who raped Indian journalist last year sentenced to death

MUMBAI, India — Three men convicted of participating in the gang rape of a Mumbai photojournalist last year were sentenced to death on Friday under the strict provisions of a new rape law that has begun to cause unease among some women’s rights advocates.“It was rape executed in the most gruesome and diabolical manner without showing any mercy,” Judge Shalini Phansalkar-Joshi said during the sentencing. “There should be zero tolerance towards sexual offenses of this kind.”The death sentences are the first imposed under a law passed last year amid the nationwide protests that followed the gang rape and murder in December 2012 of a student on a New Delhi bus.The three men sentenced to death on Friday, Mohammed Kasim Sheikh, Salim Ansari and Vijay Jadhav, were convicted of two separate rapes, one of the photojournalist, in August, and another of a call-center worker in July.
Death Penalty Imposed in Mumbai Gang RapesAPRIL 4, 2014 Under the new law, repeat offenders must be sentenced to a minimum of life in prison, and may also be given the death penalty. A fourth man who participated only in the photojournalist’s rape was sentenced to life on Friday; a fifth man convicted only in the attack on the call-center operator had previously been sentenced to life, and two other suspects, both juveniles, are being tried separately.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 21 Apr 2014 09:39

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... mesofindia
Nirbhaya rerun in MP: Minor gang-raped and thrown off moving bus

BHOPAL: In a shocking reminiscence of Delhi's Nirbhaya tragedy, a 14-year-old dalit girl was allegedly gang-raped by five people inside a moving bus and then thrown out of the vehicle at Singrauli district in Madhya Pradesh on Sunday.
The bus driver was also involved in the monstrous act. The rear wheels of the bus missed the girl by inches as she lay bleeding and unconscious on a dirt road in Nalhatani village, 15km from the district headquarters.A few villagers discovered the girl's unconscious body hours after the incident and took her to the district hospital after informing the police. The victim narrated the ordeal to the police after gaining consciousness.Police said that the victim was returning from her aunt's village when she was offered a lift by the driver of a bus operated by Siddiqui Travels. This bus was hired by a local businessman for a wedding ceremony and it was heading towards the venue to pick up guests.There were around five people inside the bus, including its driver and two cleaners. As soon as the girl boarded the bus, they began molesting her.The girl screamed for help, but the windows were shut. The culprits stopped the bus near a desolate area and dragged the girl inside a forest. All of them took turns to rape her, police said, quoting the victim.The victim told the police that they dragged her back into the bus after raping her and pushed her off the moving bus. The girl suffered serious head injuries.Police said her medical examination report is awaited. Her parents were also informed about the incident. A case has been registered under different sections, including Protection Of Children Against Sexual Offences Act. One of the accused has been detained, police said

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 30 May 2014 11:08

Another schocking case. This time police themselves involved!! The pictures are horrific. The system is infested inside and out.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/30/world/asi ... gang-rape/

A police officer and two other people were arrested after an alleged gang-rape that left two teenage girls dead in an Indian village, authorities said Friday.

The bodies of the two girls were left hanging from a tree, sparking outrage in the area and beyond. The victims were cousins, ages 14 and 16.

Angry villagers protested around the bodies, preventing police from taking them down from the tree for about 15 hours Wednesday, the day after the attack, said Mukesh Saxena, a local police official.

A photo from the village, in the state of Uttar Pradesh, showed the body of one girl, dressed in a green tunic and pants, hanging from the tree. A large group of people, many of them young children, were gathered around the grisly scene.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 31 May 2014 07:34

Where is Badaun in UP where the two girls were raped and hanged? I recall there was an election issue there. I hope this is not election reprisal by the perpetrators?

nawabs · Post by **nawabs** » 31 May 2014 13:22

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 800676.cms

Akhilesh was in Kanpur on personal work when city reporters buttonholed him over the alarming rise in rape cases in the state, apart from an abysmal slide in the rule of law. There have been four rapes in the last two days in UP, beginning with the sexual assault and murder of two dalit teenagers in Badaun, followed by rape of another dalit teenage girl in Azamgarh. On Friday, a fourth girl was raped in Sharawasti.

Last month, Akhilesh's father and Samajwadi Party chief Mulayam Singh Yadav had commented on the issue of rape, "Boys will be boys, why hang rapists?"

Addressing a rally in Moradabad in April, Mulayam had said, "Ladkiyan pehle dosti karti hain. Ladke-ladki mein matbhed ho jata hai. Matbhed hone key baad usey rape ka naam dey deti hain. Ladko sey galti ho jati hai. Kya rape case mein phansi di jayegi? (First, girls and boys become friends. Then, when differences occur between them, the girls accuse boys of rape. Boys may make mistakes, but should they be hanged for it?)"

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 13 Jun 2014 11:13

[quote="ramana" on 6-oct-2013 ]RM I didnt know the BJP role in reducing the juvenile age.[/quote]

(sorry for delayed reply)

This is what happens when people lock themselves in echo chambers and dont frequent SM.

A well read and well informed person such as yourself doesnt know that ABV\Shourie\Jetley had raised juvenile age from 16 years to 18 years, in year 2001 which triples serious crime against women. Now I dug this fact out in dec-2013, some 5-10days after Delhi bus case. And in jan-2013, I must have written dozens of posts on SM sites about this nefarious action of ABV\Shourie\Jetley. And you came to know about this fact some 9 months later, and that to after I wrote it on BR. Solution I propose is we should all frequent SM more often.

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Some 100,000 serious sexual crimes are reported against women every year in India. May be , actual number is 5 times higher. Now some 60% crimes are done by juveniles between 16 years and 18 years !!! Thats is because ABV\Jetley\Shourie told these young lads that "no matter how many crimes you committ, no matter how gruesome crimes you commit, the punishments will NOT exceed 3 years !!". A criminal kills one, while a corrupt Minister kills 1000s .

Now every day we lose in changing this law, some 60000/365 = about 164 women become victims due to this law !! How can get get this law changed on ASAP basis is OSF

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 Jul 2014 20:10

Supreme Court has lost its moral compass in death penalty cases. First they suspended the death penalty for two of the four sentenced. Today they suspeneded the death penalty for the other two also claiming until the situation is resolved for earlier two, these should also be suspended.
There is some thing greviously wroing in the criminla justice system in India.
From police, lawyers, judges and politicians.

All have lost their moral compass wrt to rape cases in India.

Rape is not about sex. Its about dominance at individual, political and societal level.

If India legitimizes rape then it has moved away from Sananthana Dharma.

The two founding epics Ramayana and Mahabharata are really about rape as the central character issue and providing justice against the perpetrators.

That is what dhrama sansthapana yuge yuge is all about.

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 14 Jul 2014 20:15

^^^ I call them Santa Clause judges -- they come carrying goodies for convicted criminals. It's about time Indian judges started becoming obsessed with the rights of the victims rather than the rights of the convicts. Punishment is not only to punish the person who has committed the crime, it is also demonstrative -- to show other people thinking of committing the same type of crime: "Look jokers, this is what would happen to you too if you do something similar."

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 15 Jul 2014 20:17

Jhujar wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/05/world ... .html?_r=0
3 men who raped Indian journalist last year sentenced to death
MUMBAI, India — Three men convicted of participating in the gang rape of a Mumbai photojournalist last year were sentenced to death on Friday under the strict provisions of a new rape law that has begun to cause unease among some women’s rights advocates.“It was rape executed in the most gruesome and diabolical manner without showing any mercy,” Judge Shalini Phansalkar-Joshi said during the sentencing. “There should be zero tolerance towards sexual offenses of this kind.”The death sentences are the first imposed under a law passed last year amid the nationwide protests that followed the gang rape and murder in December 2012 of a student on a New Delhi bus.The three men sentenced to death on Friday, Mohammed Kasim Sheikh, Salim Ansari and Vijay Jadhav, were convicted of two separate rapes, one of the photojournalist, in August, and another of a call-center worker in July.
Death Penalty Imposed in Mumbai Gang RapesAPRIL 4, 2014 Under the new law, repeat offenders must be sentenced to a minimum of life in prison, and may also be given the death penalty. A fourth man who participated only in the photojournalist’s rape was sentenced to life on Friday; a fifth man convicted only in the attack on the call-center operator had previously been sentenced to life, and two other suspects, both juveniles, are being tried separately.

Two juveniles convicted in Shakti Mills gangrapes

The Juvenile Justice Board (JJB) Tuesday held two minors facing trial in two separate cases of gangrape that took place in the Shakti Mills compound last year, guilty of committing the offences.

While one of the juvenile accused was tried for raping a former telephone operator on July 31, 2013, the other was tried for the gangrape of a photojournalist on August 22, 2013.

“At about 1:45 pm, the court called both the accused. Their parents were also present. The court then pronounced them guilty. All charges against them have been proved and they have been sentenced to three years in a correctional facility,” said special public prosecutor Ujjwal Nikam.

Three years is the maximum sentence that can be awarded to an accused facing trial in under the Juvenile Justice Act. This three year period will not include the time spent by the juveniles in the children’s home earlier.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 18 Jul 2014 22:00

Read and weep

what has come of UP in the dark days of SP goons. reminds me of Bihar in Lalloo Prasad's Raj.
They deserve to be identified and shot in public.

Lucknow gang-rape case

Lucknow: Certain leads emerged on Friday but no arrest has yet been made into the alleged gang-rape and murder of a 25-year-old woman whose badly mutilated body was found at the outskirts of the state capital yesterday.

They said the report of the post-mortem examination conducted by a team of six doctors mentions anti-mortem multiple hemorrhage from different injuries as the cause of death.

The victim, who has now been identified, was an employee of the PGI hospital located in the capital. The Victim was working as a nurse in the Nuclear Medicine Department of the PGI Hospital.

The victim, who hailed from Gorakhpur, was a widow and is survived by by two children.

Her husband died two years ago due to kidney failure.

Meanwhile, a panel of six doctors, which examined the body, has reportedly confirmed the gang-rape of the woman, and laceration in anal and vaginal areas.

The panel, which includes forensic experts and a female doctor, also noted a total of 12 injuries, abrasions and contusions on the corpse with maximum severity doled out below abdomen.

“Blunt objects such as wooden stick were thrust inside vaginal and anal area to inflict pain,“ a doctor from the panel was quoted as saying.

The panel has reportedly concluded that as the victim started bleeding excessively the men dragged her to a classroom and continued abusing her sexually.

The men seem to have dealt lathi blows on her face, chest and waist and on legs and drove a stick into her private parts.

The 25-year-old woman's body, lying in a pool of blood, was spotted by local people just six kilometres from a village that former US president Bill Clinton had visited on Monday.

The police claimed that she was killed last night at the government-run school in the city's Bahadurkheda area, where there had been tight security for Clinton's visit.

The woman was allegedly stripped and stabbed several times. There were stab wounds even on her private parts, the police said after preliminary examination of the body.

The case reminds us of the horrific gang-rape and brutal torture of a young paramedical student by a group of six men in a moving car in the national capital in December 2012.

A spurt in gang-rapes and crimes against women in the Samajwadi Party-ruled state has ben a major cause of embarrassment for the Akhilesh Yadav government.

In May, two minor Dalit sisters' dead bodies were found hanging from a tree in the Badaun district. The girls, who were cousins, were allegedly gang-raped, beaten and hanged alive.

The Badaun case - which created headlines in the foreign media and evoked sharp criticism for the UP government - is still being probed

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 20 Jul 2014 18:59

Arrest from peaceful community

Kanchan Gupta ‏@KanchanGupta 14m
Bangalore Police chief to @newsminute on 6-year-old's rape: A man named Mustafa has been arrested, he was a skating instructor.

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 20 Jul 2014 19:36

ramana wrote:From police, lawyers, judges and politicians. All have lost their moral compass wrt to rape cases in India.

True. Politicians from ALL parties have lost moral compass, assuming that they ever had any.

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After 15 long years, Maneka Gandhi now says that juveniles who commit sexual offenses should be tried as adult. She hides the FACT it was ABV Ministry , of which she was part of, passed this law in year 2000 !! And she also hides the FACT that she and BJP is opposing back dated implementation of this age reduction. IOW, she and BJP MPs do NOT want the juvenile criminal in Delhi dec-15 bus case to be hanged. IOW, Maneka, like any other Congressi, hides more facts than she says. What else do you expect?

IMO, we should dump ALL these MPs for good.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 20 Jul 2014 19:43

T S Sudhir ‏@Iamtssudhir 1m
Accused in school rape case hails fm Darbhanga, living in #Bangalore last 20 yrs. His mobile, laptop contain videos of children in d nude

T S Sudhir HLT correspondent.

mraghu · Post by **mraghu** » 20 Jul 2014 20:01

The media big shots will spin this new info as something different. They will say we need to look at the big picture

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 Jul 2014 20:43

Rahul Mehta,
Retrospective implementation of law will cause it to be struck down. That is a sure fire way of ensuring its not implemented.
Why do you suggest that? You dont want the law to be changed?

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 21 Jul 2014 14:46

ramana wrote:Rahul Mehta,

Retrospective implementation of law will cause it to be struck down. That is a sure fire way of ensuring its not implemented. Why do you suggest that? You dont want the law to be changed?

It is possible apply the bill with restrospective date by amending constitution.

It requires political will to propose the amendment. If amendment fails in LS\RS, then we know who to blame. But if amendment isnt proposed at all, then only PM has to be blamed for not proposing the amendment,

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 30 Jul 2014 08:09

Maneka Gandhi and Varun Gandhi are demanding lowering of juvenile age from 18 years to 16 years.

But it is all a CHEAP DRAMA to steal credit from activists who started this movement. For record, MG\VG have NOT proposed any law-draft in Parliament to reduce the age. They are just throwing hot air in media. And both are NOT spelling out the FACT that it was ABV, Jetley who had printed the Juvenile law in year 2001 which raised age from 16 years to 18 years !! And MG was a Minister in ABV govt when this law was passed and MG had voted YES on this law !! And for 12 long years, MG remained silent on this issue despite the fact that since year 2005, over 67% of serious sexual crimes against women are committed juvenile only !! And VG too has been in politics since 2007 and has been an MP since 2009, and never demanded and change in this law for 5 years to 7 years.

So all in all MG\VG are only to usurp credit. They have no aim to improve well being of anyone and no serious desire to fix laws.

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 31 Jul 2014 19:34

http://www.indiatvnews.com/politics/nat ... 19213.html

Government mulls reducing juvenile age from 18 to 16

New Delhi: Narendra Modi government is seriously considering to bring about significant changes in Juvenile Justice Act, according to government sources. If these sources are to be believed then serious discussion is going on among concerned ministries of the union government to give more teeth to the juvenile act.

The proposed changes will empower Juvenile Justice Board to take a call on whether to send a minor, falling under 16-18 years of age who has committed a heinous crime like rape, to an observation home or he be tried in a regular court. According to sources, the Women and Child Development Ministry has already sent the final draft of a bill to amend the Juvenile Justice (Care and Protection of Children) Act, 2000 to the Cabinet Secretariat. The note has already been approved by the Law Ministry.

There is also a view in the government as to how can a person, who commits a heinous crime like rape, be considered a minor. In the ongoing inter-ministerial consultations, attempt is also being made to arrive at a consensus to lower the juvenile age from 18 to 16. Modi government may try to introduce the revised bill in the ongoing parliament session, according to sources.

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So activism can succeed , even without any MP

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 04 Aug 2014 23:03

http://www.inquisitr.com/1389719/young- ... t-she-did/

She used the cell phone to record their initial conversation when she arrived. The dialogue of the conversation was reportedly enough to support her allegations. After their conversation, she reportedly castrated him. Although he tried to stop her, she was able to escape from his home. When she reported the series of events to her family and local police, they immediately tried to silence her. But, after political leaders intervened, legal actions were taken.On July 30, an FIR was filed at a Madhepura police station, reports India TV News. A medical examination was also ordered for the girl, and there is now an arrest warrant for her uncle.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Aug 2014 23:37

Atleast one loophole in the Delhi Gang Rape case has been plugged by Modi Sarkar. Wonder what prevented the UPA from doing this little corrective action?

jagga wrote:Cabinet clears amendments to Juvenile Justice Act paving way for harsher punishment

chandrasekhar.m · Post by **chandrasekhar.m** » 07 Aug 2014 05:30

ramana wrote:Atleast one loophole in the Delhi Gang Rape case has been plugged by Modi Sarkar. Wonder what prevented the UPA from doing this little corrective action?

jagga wrote:Cabinet clears amendments to Juvenile Justice Act paving way for harsher punishment

ramana saar, thanks for cross-posting. Some details from that link. Don't agree with the items in bold:

NEW DELHI: A proposal which will empower the Juvenile Justice Board to decide whether a juvenile above 16 years involved in heinous crimes such as rape is to be sent to a observation home or tried in a regular court is learnt have been cleared by the Union Cabinet on Wednesday.
<snip>
However, according to the bill, in no case will the juvenile involved in a heinous crime be sentenced to death or life imprisonment either when tried under the provisions of JJ Act or under the provisions of IPC.

Some progress after a year and a half but not a holistic solution. They had one opportunity of getting this right, but couldn't remove their blinkers.

This bill ought to be improved. What is with this magic number of 16 years? The decision should be based on a case-to-case basis depending on the nature of the crime without keeping the age as a fixed number. Earlier it was 18, now they changed it to 16. Don't they learn anything from the past? Will we need another agitation and spate of horrible crimes in the future before they realise they can't rely on magic number?

Secondly, it says the juvenile who commits such a heinous crime can't be sentenced to death or life imprisonment. Why not? IMO, its again this magic number nonsense which has stopped them from removing their tinted shades. That juvenile is not a juvenile anymore if he/she committed heinous crimes. What are the alternatives they propose to death sentence or life imprisonment? Let them off after 5-10 years in jail? Doesn't sound like the right thing to do.

How can we send this message across to the government? Can we read the text of the bill or get hold of more details somewhere?

Sorry if it sounded like a rant.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 15 Jan 2015 02:14

What are the next steps with time line to bring closure to this sad case? What do the prosecutors have to do to aid the appeals process come to completion?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 26 Feb 2015 21:12

R.K. Pachauri has been granted anticipatory bail by lower court in Delhi.

It confirms the allegation that Delhi lower courts are rapist friendly and foster an rape friendly environment.

Could be due to Congress spokesman Abhishek Singhvi's role in selecting judges.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 02 Mar 2015 23:12

Dec 16 rapist blames victim, says a girl is far more responsible for rape than a boy

The criminal shows no remorse till date. And Supreme Court is slogging at appeals. They should have been hanged pronto.
In almost a rerun of the same incident a Nepali Girl was brutally gangraped and murdered in most heinous manner by 8+ man in Haryana in Rohtak and that poor girl was not even going at night. Such men are plague unto the Society and must be eradicated with extreme prejudice.

One of the men convicted of the brutal 2012 gang-rape of a 23-year-old woman on a moving bus in Delhi has triggered outrage by claiming the victim was to blame for her fatal sexual assault.

In an interview from jail for a BBC documentary to be aired on March 8, Mukesh Singh said women who went out at night had only themselves to blame if they attracted the attention of gangs of male molesters.

"A girl is far more responsible for rape than a boy," Singh was quoted as saying by the British daily the Telegraph.

Singh claimed that had the victim and her male friend not tried to fight back, the gang would not have resorted to a savage beating.

Describing the gruesome incident that shocked people around the world as an "accident", Singh said: "When being raped, she shouldn't fight back. She should just be silent and allow the rape. Then they'd have dropped her off after 'doing her', and only hit the boy."

The interview will be aired by BBC Four on its Storyville programme "India's Daughter" on Sunday to coincide with International Women's Day.

The physiotherapy student was raped and assaulted with an iron rod after she was tricked into boarding the unregistered private bus to go home from the cinema with a male friend. Her male companion was badly beaten and could not come to her aid while the assault was being carried out. The two were later dumped naked and bleeding on the roadside.

The woman died 13 days after the attack from the injuries inflicted upon her, after being airlifted to a Singapore hospital for specialist treatment.

The attack sparked widespread protests and a campaign by civil society groups for tougher laws to protect women from sexual violence.

One of the attackers was found dead in jail in March last year. A juvenile member of the gang was sentenced to three years in a detention centre. Four attackers, including Singh, were convicted and sentenced to death last year. Judge Yogesh Khanna said the victim was "tortured till the very end" and the case fell into the "rarest of rare category", which justified capital punishment.

The Supreme Court has stayed the death sentences as it considers appeals filed by the four men.

Singh, who was 26 at the time of the attack, was driving the bus. He denied involvement in the attack, but his claim was rejected by the court, which said there was strong DNA evidence against him. The judge also said that even if he had not taken part, he should have intervened.

But Singh appeared to show no remorse in the interview.

"You can't clap with one hand - it takes two hands," he was quoted as saying in the interview. "A decent girl won't roam around at 9 o'clock at night. A girl is far more responsible for rape than a boy. Boy and girl are not equal. Housework and housekeeping is for girls, not roaming in discos and bars at night, doing wrong things, wearing wrong clothes. About 20 per cent of girls are good."

Singh also claimed that executing him and the other convicted rapists will endanger future rape victims.

"The death penalty will make things even more dangerous for girls," he said. "Before, they would rape and say, 'Leave her, she won't tell anyone.' Now when they rape, especially the criminal types, they will just kill the girl."

AP Singh, the lawyers who defended the gang in court, has expressed similar views about women. In a previous interview, he had said: "If my daughter or sister engaged in pre-marital activities and disgraced herself and allowed herself to lose face and character by doing such things, I would most certainly take this sort of sister or daughter to my farmhouse, and in front of my entire family, I would put petrol on her and set her alight."

In the BBC documentary, Singh said his stance had not changed: "This is my stand. I still today stand on that reply."

Another defence lawyer, ML Sharma, said: "In our society, we never allow our girls to come out from the house after 6:30 or 7.30 or 8.30 in the evening with any unknown person."

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 03 Mar 2015 20:26

Of Course BBC is scum of a channel. How come DG Tihar Jail allowed an imprisoned convict criminal to be interviewed by a Journalist , that too a foreign Journo. Jail Manual specifically allows visits only by friends and lawyers and that too meeting is for a restricted period. Here a Journo interviews for long hours. Dibang is the Indian Sidekick of that BBC journo who accepted that he facilitated the visit. Many , who came to know of this statement, are totally outraged.

member_26011 · Post by **member_26011** » 03 Mar 2015 20:56

Please check wapo comments for needed commentary, here is a response that reflects accurately on the universal problem

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/13/us/milita ... l-assault/

"I was so re-traumatized from the unexpectedness of seeing him that I removed myself from training and immediately sought out the assistance from an Army chaplain who told me, among other things, that the rape was God's will and that God was trying to get my attention so that I would go back to church," she testified.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 03 Mar 2015 22:26

Huge row over interview of Nirbhaya’s rapist, Delhi Police register case
While Some congis were going hammer and tongue over the permission granted for Interview and sought NDA Govt's clarification, it anow turned out that permission was granted by MHA during UPA times in Oct 2013( possibly by Shinde in the know) MMS was also informed that the documentary was being sold to BBC for possible telecast. Did nothing to check the content nor BBC deemed it fit to get it cleared fro either Jail Authorities or from MHA> One thing is clear that Jail authorities are surely at fault.

NEW DELHI: The interview of one of the convicts of Nirbhaya's gang rape and murder for a documentary by a British filmmaker snowballed into a huge controversy on Tuesday.

The government has taken a serious view of the matter and sought an explanation from Tihar Jail authorities who allowed the interview. The Delhi Police registered a case under Section 509 (outraging the modesty of women) and Section 504 (intentional insult to provoke breach of trust) of the Indian Penal code.

Delhi Police chief BS Bassi said, "We urge the Indian media not to show it. Police moving chief metropolitan magistrate's court today to seek restrain from airing of the show."

The parents of the December 16, 2012 gang-rape victim reacted angrily to the remarks made by Mukesh Singh in the interview where he seeks to blame their daughter for the horrific incident, calling it shameful and demanded he be hanged. The filmmaker Leslee Udwin on her part said the film is her attempt to examine the attitude of men towards women and that there was nothing sensational in it.

Udwin also claimed she took permission from the then director general of Tihar Jail Vimla Mehra before interviewing Mukesh in the prison for BBC.

Nirbhaya gang rape: Complete coverage

Taking the incident of the convict being interviewed in custody very "seriously", home minister Rajnath Singh spoke to Tihar Jail director general Alok Kumar Verma and sought a detailed report on it urgently, official sources said.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 03 Mar 2015 22:34

Why so much song and dance about what the Nirbhaya rapist said? I expected him tohold such views. That's why he is a criminal and needs to be executed.
But then, such views are shared by many Muslim aam aadmis also. What about that?

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 04 Mar 2015 03:58

KJo wrote:Why so much song and dance about what the Nirbhaya rapist said? I expected him tohold such views. That's why he is a criminal and needs to be executed.
But then, such views are shared by many Muslim aam aadmis also. What about that?

You are correct - his views were expected. But hell even 2 of his defence lawyers are on film saying the same thing!! Such people should have their right to practise law removed imo.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 04 Mar 2015 10:42

KJo wrote:Why so much song and dance about what the Nirbhaya rapist said? I expected him tohold such views. That's why he is a criminal and needs to be executed.
But then, such views are shared by many Muslim aam aadmis also. What about that?

If this convict preaching morality to girls continue to live to see this same day next year, then I feel that current GoI have done nothing great for women's safety. Here is a dirty scoundrel who raped and killed a girl, continuing to give sermons sitting inside a prison cell. I know that GoI has asked none of the channels to telecast the interview, but I guess the harm is already done.

The interview with this scum can be telecasted by all channels but with a scroll bar below showing - "Breaking news. The Delhi rapist who gave sermons to girls was executed this morning at Central Prison at Tihar. Jail authorities stated that the convict cried and begged for mercy, when he saw the noose dangling before him".

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 04 Mar 2015 12:05

Personally, a well made documentary that shows how evil these guys are and what their thought process is, is fine. However, if and its most likely given its to be shown on the bbc, it is used to tarnish the society (despite many many people holding similar views) then its not on. Even then I'd say banning it is too extreme.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 04 Mar 2015 12:52

I am saddened by two things. The foremost, of course, is what the rapist said. So sickening to the last pits of the stomach. The next is the continuing concessions that white skinned people get in our country which of course reflects our deep inferiority complex. I am sure no Indian agency or person could have gained access to the rapist.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 04 Mar 2015 13:05

A big piece of the solution is more publicly accessible data on crime figures, on a regular basis. And we should be able to slice and dice the statistics in various ways - by state, by region, by locality, by community of offender, etc.....The transparency in itself will reveal huge amounts of insight - as also provide a means for directing the resources of the state in the right direction.Without such data - we are just groping in the dark and GOI will continue to remain a sitting duck for media smear campaigns of the type being seen.