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UKstanis are upto no good. Trying to "civilize" the darkies Indians now:

Fight against healthcare graft to focus on India
British Medical Journal (BMJ) has announced the launch of a campaign against corruption in medicine, which will begin with its focus on India. The journal urged people to join its international fight back against kickbacks.

The ​editorial in BMJ regarding the campaign stated that corruption in healthcare was a complex challenge that medical professionals have failed to deal with, either by choosing to enrich themselves, turning a blind eye, or considering it too difficult. Transparency International had concluded that the Indian healthcare sector, is the second most corrupt organization that an ordinary citizen had to encounter (next to the police force).
TOI has as expected sold out to them with this article:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 350397.cms

The the briturds want to 'civilize' medical corruption, they should try to get some control over the US medical system, which I think is more uncivilized than the Indian one.
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^^^ Modi should deny these turds visas. These are busy bodies obsessed with other people's business. Amazing that all their efforts to set the world right begin from India. Without invitation, they land up on their own to civilize us.
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Irrelevance of Britain?

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 77250.html

Matthew Norman
Tuesday 1 July 2014

Cameron’s ‘Cool Brittania II’ was more like the night Britain lost all its cultural relevance

You know your celebrity bash is in trouble when Vernon Kaye is too cool to attend

Another of those tears in the fabric of space-time that now and again illuminate the depressing peculiarity of life in Britain opened up the other night in central London, and through it slipped the last vestige of this country’s relevance in the world beyond.

I refer morosely to the reception at the Foreign Office for those David Cameron regards as our most glittering cultural gems. It may be styled: Cool Britannia II: This Time It’s Personally Embarrassing For Us All.

The 1997 prequel, as you must recall, was a humiliation solely for its host, Mr Tony Blair. Resplendent in his massive majority, the star-struck new PM mingled gleefully with such global successes as Vivienne Westwood, Ralph Fiennes, Damien Hirst and Helen Mirren.

In a bid to underscore his gibberish about recreating Britain – that dribbling occupant of the wash-clean plastic chair in the psycho-geriatric ward of international life – as “a young country”, Mr T even cracked wise with Noel Gallagher about the anti-soporific effects of the finest cocaine.

You would not have believed then that anything on Earth, or this solar system, or come to that the cosmos, could ever make you reflect fondly on that. So I suppose we must doff the cap to David Cameron for achieving the impossible on Monday night.

Although a glance at the date establishes that the bash was held on 30 June 2014, an examination of those who joined the PM for drinks and canapés (the most gilded of whom later dined with him at No 10; though whether for a formal sit-down affair or kitchen supper, Francis Maude has yet to announce) places it at some indeterminable point between the late 1970s and the mid-80s. The mystery of Downing Street’s reluctance to discuss the guest list before the event was resolved when it began.

While such invitees as Dame Maggie Smith, Nicole Kidman, Chiwetel Ejiofor and Benedict Cumberbatch found themselves otherwise engaged, another fêted dramatic artist did deign to pitch up.

Ronnie Corbett, the method actor whose lifelong preparation for the part of mummy’s boy librarian Timothy Lumsden in Sorry! included declining human growth hormone as a child, was at the party.
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We all adore him, of course, but was it really Little Ron whom Mr Cameron had in mind when he told partygoers: “We’ve always had rich seams of thought, creativity and ingenuity to mine. So tonight, let’s resolve to keep on leading the world with our culture”?

If not Little Ron, perhaps he was thinking of those timeless cultural powerhouses, Cilla Black and Sir Bruce Forsyth, the latter inadvertently providing the most acute commentary on the soirée by turning up late.

Or did Mr Cameron have Tess Daly in mind? Although many decades younger than her old Strictly Come Dancing confrere, Miss Daly’s gushing presentational style belongs in the telly era of the original Generation Game. As does John Barrowman, Brucie’s successor as the Sammy Davis Jnr wannabe-du-jour, who also mingled in the F.O. courtyard with Michael McIntyre, Kirstie Allsopp and models of C3PO and R2D2 out of Star Wars.

As with all the most elegant, swelegant parties, the absentees are more intriguing than the attendants. Mr Blobby was unfortunately tied up with parish council business in Crinkly Bottom, and Rolf Harris – who qualifies as British on account of being included in my friend Jon Gaunt’s splendid list of his Top Ten Greatest Living Brits – may also have had a credible excuse. The Krankies could hardly have gone, what with the party falling on a Wee Jimmy school night, and Cameron’s chum Gary Barlow is still in disgrace over his tax arrangements.

But on what conceivable grounds did Vernon Kaye – a Chequers guest with his missus Tess Daly in the high cultural era of Mr Blair – stay away? Could it be that the presenter of All Star Family Fortunes and public face of the Beefeater restaurant chain regarded himself – HIMSELF – as too cool for Cool II? If so, he had a point.

I yield to no one in my appreciation of party presences Oritsé Williams, the baggage in the boy band JLS, and Eliza Doolittle, who cunningly seeks some market distinction from Paloma Faith by not selling a lot of records.

But if this is David Cameron’s notion of celebrating how “the UK has always punched well above our weight in culture and the arts,” and with apologies to an earlier Eliza Doolittle, all I want is a room somewhere, with one enormous chair in which to rock back and forth sobbing at the disgrace.

Britain has one enormous chair, but for how much longer? The next time our ambassador to the UN turns up for a meeting of the Security Council’s permanent members, he may expect to find only four chairs. “But where’s the UK seat?” he will perplexedly ask . “I’m so sorry,” Ban Ki-moon will explain, “but when we read about the guests at David Cameron’s party, we interpreted it as the final expression of British isolationism.

"Let’s be honest, all you had left of any global relevance was your culture. When we saw Tess Daly, we realised you don’t even have that any more, and took it as your formal resignation from the permanent seat. Sorry again, and it was nice knowing you, but we had the British chair symbolically burned.”
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the british are famous for such snarky writers...but lets face it the anglosphere is huge and british writers - fiction, non-fiction, textbooks, childrens books and musicians have a huge market worldwide...long after their deaths too like enid blyton, arthur conan doyle, jrr tolkien,shakespeare, many poets,saki....millions of students take english literature as their BA and MA.
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Islamist terror threat to west blown out of proportion - former MI6 chief
Sir Richard Dearlove, chief of MI6 at the time of the Iraq invasion, said that Britons spreading "blood-curdling" messages on the internet should be ignored. He told an audience in London on Monday there had been a fundamental change in the nature of Islamist extremism since the Arab spring. It had created a major political problem in the Middle East but the west, including Britain, was only "marginally affected".

Unlike the threat posed by al-Qaida before and in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks 13 years ago, the west was not the main target of the radical fundamentalism that created Isis, (the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant), Dearlove said.

Addressing the Royal United Services Institute, the London-based security and defence thinktank, he said the conflict was "essentially one of Muslim on Muslim".
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‘UK pedophile ring needs to be probed’

Jul 8, 2014

Theresa May has announced a new inquiry into child sexual abuse – taking in the Civil Service, the BBC, the Churches, political parties and the public sector. To those of us who have campaigned against child-abuse cover-ups, it should be welcome news. But over the years, I have experienced many false dawns and dashed hopes.

Only one thing will persuade me that the Government is serious about tackling Britain’s “VIP pedophile ring” – and that is when it sets up a nationally coordinated police and social services task force with the power, money and numbers to follow up the mountain of evidence that has been ignored for decades.

I have given evidence to several child-abuse inquiries, and always ended up wondering whether it was a wasted effort: all too many reports came out with platitudes about “drawing a line” under things, or claimed – wrongly – that the evidence had long since “gone cold”. After the scandal of systematic abuse in children’s homes in North Wales broke in the mid-Nineties, Sir Ronald Waterhouse spent three years taking evidence, and produced a 1,000-page report. Yet no one then was arrested. I have never forgotten ringing one of his officials and asking whether the inquiry would accept our evidence on the suspicious deaths – through alleged suicides and accidents – of some of the victims. No, he sighed, practically yawning.

Abused children, past and present, need justice and support, not talking-shops of over-paid lawyers and “experts”. Yet the investigators tasked with exposing the great and not-so-good are woefully – deliberately? – under-resourced, ill-coordinated, exhausted and demoralized.

Over the past two years, since the Labour MP Tom Watson asked an electrifying parliamentary question about a pedophile ring allegedly leading to No 10, just seven officers in the Metropolitan Police have been assigned to look into the allegations about these powerful rings. Incredibly, some of those in Operation Fernbridge are also still expected to keep their eye on “routine” child abuse and trafficking.

Those in the know speak highly of the officers’ dedication and skill. But some child-protection campaigners and professionals have given up referring evidence and newly emerged victims to them. They are sadly aware that the team is tiny, with some already on 16-hour days. The work is dark and grim, not least because victims are hard to interview and often deeply damaged by their abuse. False claims and libelous rumors have also proliferated on the internet and elsewhere. Obtaining useable evidence from credible sources is unbelievably tough.

Operation Fernbridge does not even have the power and resources to investigate allegations about areas outside London. Some victims describe corruption in local forces, so there is a terrible stalemate: understandably, they do not want their concerns relayed back to regional police, who might have the manpower to investigate.

But then, getting justice of any sort has always been agonizingly difficult. I first heard the allegations about Cyril Smith more than 20 years ago. But no police were allowed to act against him, or his similarly-minded, well-connected pals. Concerned cops were barred from investigating, witnesses were intimidated, editors feared libel suits (or simply couldn’t believe what they were told), and I – and the few other journalists in the field – lacked the resources or protection to follow up the accusations. So, like other powerful, repugnant men, Smith remained free.

Today, the Home Office is investigating how it came to lose the information on child abuse given to Leon (now Lord) Brittan in the Eighties. Yet the disappearance of crucial evidence has been a theme of every one of my investigations. I have exposed pedophile rings targeting children’s homes in Islington, Hackney, North Wales and Essex, as well as schools, charities and churches – including some targeting the already suffering children of Romania, India, Africa and the Far East. Whenever the authorities are asked to investigate themselves – as, bizarrely, they often are – almost all the relevant files are found to have vanished.

It was back in 1993 that the retired child-protection manager who blew the whistle to Mr Watson first proposed the idea of a nationwide task force. Peter McKelvie, who went public in the Telegraph on Saturday, wrote a briefing paper for Scotland Yard and the social services watchdog with Dr Liz Davies, the equally heroic social worker who exposed the children’s homes scandal in Islington. She eventually went public in protest after Tony Blair – incredibly – made Islington’s former council leader, Margaret Hodge, Britain’s first children’s minister. What became of their proposal? Nothing. McKelvie’s investigation unit was abruptly closed down and his files burned. Dr Davies’s dossiers were mysteriously lost.

Simon Danczuk, the Rochdale MP who has worked brilliantly to expose his predecessor, Cyril Smith, has suggested that an amnesty be offered to police, social workers and other officials who may, over the decades, have been pressured to conceal or destroy evidence. I can only agree. Numerous officials have confided in me over the years, and I have never forgotten the chill I felt when one officer said: “I am telling you this in case something happens to me.”

That “something” has indeed often happened to brave professionals who have tried to expose child-abuse cover-ups: many ended up being sacked or falsely accused of grave misconduct or crimes; and all were traumatized by learning of horrors that no one wanted ended. My most surreal experience was when a police officer who had uncovered a powerful ring, stretching from the Fens to North Wales and the Channel Islands, asked me to carry his intelligence to colleagues elsewhere in the country, because he had been barred from on high from doing so.

To properly tackle this problem, we need Danczuk’s amnesty. But we also need any other managers and police who carelessly lost evidence to be named, shamed and prosecuted – unless they shop whoever may have ordered them to do so. And we need that nationally coordinated inquiry team, which must involve both police and social workers – hand-picked, trusted specialists who, between them, can finally join the dots and expose the rings that have nurtured the likes of Cyril Smith and Jimmy Savile.

We must also think about the welfare of vulnerable witnesses. Places of safety may be needed for some, as well as counseling and other practical support. Even with the best intentions, police who go knocking on alleged victims’ doors, decades on, can end up ripping off protective scabs. Lawyers at inquiries can also have a devastating impact. And close cooperation with social services is needed, as while Operation Fernbridge has had to track down many children once in care it has few resources to help them after the questioning has ended. People think that child protection has been improved in recent years, but many in the field are aghast at the endless tinkering. The “at risk” register has been abolished – all children now are viewed as “at risk” from their families – so the truly endangered children disappear from view.

Abuse survivors deserve better than another cover-up. Endless witnesses, whistleblowers and survivors have given hard evidence to police over the years about specifics – the identities of abusers and pimps, the locations of child brothels, the names of other victims, the hiding places of child *****, and the trafficking routes of prostituted children. Now, at last, it is time to act.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/07/0 ... be-probed/
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DG,the secret concentration camp run by Britain and the US,a disgrace and human rights stain upon both nations.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j ... -programme
Emails shed new light on UK link to CIA 'torture flights'
Police given crucial logs about Diego Garcia's role in rendition programme when it was allegedly used as a secret prison
Jamie Doward and Ian Cobain
The Observer, Saturday 12 July 2014 21.36 BST

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A Whitehall official was photographed last week carrying documents marked 'sensitive' confirming that the logs recording details of planes landing and taking off at the atoll have been handed to detectives. Photograph: Steve Back

Crucial logs revealing flights to a British overseas territory when it was allegedly used as a secret US prison are in the possession of the police, the Observer has learned.


The revelation has raised concerns about why, despite repeated demands, details of the flights have not been shared with lawyers and MPs, who for years have been investigating the role played by Diego Garcia, an atoll in the Indian ocean, in the CIA's extraordinary rendition programme.

A Whitehall official was photographed last week carrying documents marked "sensitive" confirming that the logs recording details of planes landing and taking off at the atoll have been handed to detectives. The documents, a series of printed emails and handwritten notes made by the official, reveal internal Foreign Office discussions about the line to take in response to questions about the British territory raised by lawyers and MPs.

The Foreign Office has repeatedly stressed there is no evidence Diego Garcia was used in the rendition programme, with the exception of two occasions in 2002 when two planes, each carrying a detainee, landed to refuel. But in April leaked classified CIA documents from a forthcoming US Senate intelligence committee report revealed that the US had held "high value" detainees on Diego Garcia, which has been leased by Britain to the US since 1966, with the "full co-operation" of the British government. The Metropolitan police are currently investigating allegations that an opponent of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi was rendered via Diego Garcia.

Attempts to obtain the logs, which would allow lawyers to check them against planes known to have been used for rendition, have met with stonewalling from ministers. When Andrew Tyrie, the Tory MP who is chair of the all-party parliamentary group on extraordinary rendition, demanded to see the logs in 2008, he was told "a thorough review had been conducted which had found no such information".

The Commons intelligence and security committee has also complained in its annual reports that a lack of access to such documents compromised its ability to carry out an effective investigation into rendition, resulting in the publication of an inaccurate and misleading report. Last week, in an astonishing new twist, the Foreign Office revealed in a parliamentary answer to Tyrie that the flight logs existed, but maintained some had been lost "due to water damage". Foreign Office minister Mark Simmonds said: "Daily occurrence logs, which record the flights landing and taking off, cover the period since 2003. Though there are some limited records from 2002, I understand they are incomplete due to water damage."

However, blowups of the photographed emails reveal that both "monthly log showing flight details" and "daily records [obscured] month of alleged rendition" exist and are in the possession of the police.

"All relevant treaties, UN mandates and an ever-increasing body of authoritative court rulings demand that investigations into suspected state involvement in the mechanisms of torture, including rendition, be speedy, transparent and far-reaching," said Gareth Peirce, a lawyer for several Guantánamo detainees.

"If answers to Andrew Tyrie's direct questions have contained no mention of highly relevant logs seemingly at all times in the possession of police, then the FCO [Foreign and Commonwealth Office] has marched this country into clear violation of its most fundamental legal obligations."

"The FCO should immediately release all documents, including the water-damaged ones, so a proper assessment can be made of this material and what it means," said Cori Crider of human rights group Reprieve. "Only this can begin to address the decade-long whitewash of Diego Garcia's position in the CIA secret prison system."

An FCO spokeswoman said: "We do not comment on internal documents."
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... uare-india
Does Gandhi really belong in Parliament Square?
We shouldn't allow a statue of the 'father of Indian democracy in front of the mother of parliaments' to entrench historical amnesia
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"Mahatma Gandhi's words have long provided grist for instant inspiration. Either via bumper stickers or nuggets of internet wisdom, you're likely to have had "An eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind" or "Be the change you wish to see in the world" thrust upon you at some point. So it's no surprise that Britain announced this week that this "inspiring" signifier of austere piety will be honoured through a statue of his own on Parliament Square next year. Some might argue this is long overdue.
Except that the announcement came as coalition ministers George Osborne and William Hague visited India to hustle for lucrative arms contracts, emerging triumphantly with a £250m deal to supply missiles to the Indian air force and hoping to persuade the former jewel in the imperial crown to buy the partly British-made Eurofighter Typhoon jet......."
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http://techcrunch.com/2014/07/14/snowde ... ing-tools/
Snowden Document Exposes Extensive List of British Spying Tools
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The Government Communication Headquarters (GCHQ) – Britain’s National Security Agency (NSA) equivalent – commands a wide-ranging set of tools that enable it to hack into popular social media and communications outlets and plant false information on the Internet, according to a document published by The Intercept Monday. The long list of options ranges from inflating the results of online polls to allowing the agency to monitor Skype communications in real time, though the details of that capability remain murky.

The full document, which is dated from 2012, detailing the code names of various capabilities is the latest revelation from the trove of classified information leaked to reporters by former government contractor Edward Snowden. Journalist Glenn Greenwald published the list of GCHQ capabilities in the same publication that revealed the NSA and FBI were targeting several Muslim American leaders last week under the Foreign Intelligence Service Act.

As Greenwald puts it, the tools “allow GCHQ to seed the internet with false information.” Created by the the GCHQ’s Joint Research Threat Intelligence Group (JRTIG), the arsenal of hacking options can falsely impact page view counts. Another tool called Silver Specter allows for scanning over TOR, software intended to protect users privacy online. The NSA attempted to attack TOR users, according to an October Guardian based on the Snowden files.

The JRTIG tools go beyond what we’ve seen in the past, targeting particular social networking outlets. It is unclear from the document how complicit companies were in the programs, like the program that targeted Skype. Microsoft uses advanced encryption in Skype, and the company has said it only complies with legal requests to turn over information to authorities when they refer to specific accounts. But the report claims JRTIG was capable of accessing user’s contact lists and providing real time call and instant messaging records of targets.

Another operative tactic allows the agency to find photos of specific targets on Facebook that were not available to the public. The agency also claims to have the ability to amplify messages on popular multimedia websites, such as YouTube. Facebook and Google did not immediately respond to a request for comment, and it is unclear from Greenwald’s report if the companies are aware of or complicit in such practices.

The code names for the programs are listed in a page that looks similar to a Wikipedia page as Greenwald says. It was updated as recently as July 2012, and the long list is apparently not a comprehensive catalog.

“If you don’t see it here, it doesn’t mean we can’t build it,” JTRIG says at the top of the list of programs, which includes the following code names and descriptions:

UNDERPASS – “Change the outcome of online polls.”
SILVERLORD- “Disruption of video-based websites hosting extremist content through concerted target discovery and content removal.”
CHANGELING- “Ability to spoof any email address and send email under that identity.”
IMPERIAL BARAGE- “For connecting two target phone together in a call”


I sent a list of questions to GCHQ about The Intercept revelations, and as seems to be typical intelligence agency practice, it simply responded with a vague, blanket response. The agency deflected my questions about how GCHQ obtains permission to use these particular tools on targets or if the companies these programs target like Microsoft or Facebook are aware of the tools’ existence.

“It is a longstanding policy that we do not comment on intelligence matters,” the GCHQ said. “Furthermore, all of GCHQ’s work is carried out in accordance with a strict legal and policy framework which ensures that our activities are authorised, necessary and proportionate, and that there is rigorous oversight, including from the Secretary of State, the Interception and Intelligence Services Commissioners and the Parliamentary Intelligence and Security Committee. All our operational processes rigorously support this position.”

The statement appears to be the same as the one the agency issued to The Intercept. Greenwald expresses skepticism that the agency is subject to “rigorous oversight,” citing a former cabinet minister Chris Huhne who has insisted that the ministers were in “utter ignorance” about one of the largest GCHQ programs Tempora, which allows the UK to collect, store and analyze communications much like the American PRISM program.

The document was revealed as the British parliament is set to consider an emergency surveillance law. The law would require telecom companies to retain customer data for a year, a practice that had previously been in place but was thrown out by a European Union court in the spring. Privacy groups and Snowden have denounced the legislation, saying it is happening too fast without enough of a public debate about human rights.

Today’s revelations in the Intercept cast further doubt on the U.K. spy agency’s concern for privacy rights and free speech, given the particularly invasive nature of the techniques detailed here. It is unclear from Greenwald’s report whether all of these programs were used and how often they are used. The document notes that sometimes the tools can’t be used because of operational requirements. It goes into some details about why some tactics may not be operational and, almost as an after thought, says “There may also be legal restrictions.”
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Teenage girls are traded for food': More shocking details emerge of culture of 'sexual abuse of children' on British overseas territory of St Helena
* Charity found puberty was regarded as a 'marker' for 'girls' availability'
* Revealed that 'fairly brutal sexual conduct' has become 'reasonably normal'
* They uncovered a 'casual form of prostitution' in the overseas territory (Is Brutal the fair in UKStan?)
* Women suffered 'downing', where they were raped on the way to school (you mean scholgirls right? :shock: )
* Salvation Army said domestic violence on the island is 'endemic'



‘Fairly brutal sexual conduct’ has become ‘reasonably normal in St Helenian life’, a startling charity report has claimed.

The Lucy Faithfull Foundation found puberty was widely regarded as a marker for young ‘girls’ availability’, rather than the age of consent on the British-owned island.

The Mail revealed yesterday how a shocking report which was never made public by the British government found St Helena was rife with child sexual abuse, domestic violence and sexual exploitation.

Now, we can reveal further details from the startling report into child sexual abuse on the British overseas territory, which is home to 3,800 people.

The charity said the least charitable interpretation of the situation would be that ‘the society is generically tolerant of sexual assault, except of the most gross kind, and that the parameters of what was acceptable had been shifted’. They uncovered a ‘casual form of prostitution’, with women and teenage girls traded in return for food and consumer goods.

Meanwhile, the Salvation Army and the Human Rights Office told them that ‘domestic violence was endemic’ on the island. Many older women had suffered a practice known as ‘downing’ in their childhood, when they were raped on the way to school.

As a result of their own experiences, some did not recognise that grooming and abuse of their own children was a crime, but instead potentially ‘flattering’, if it was non-violent. Commissioned by DFID, two experts at the charity interviewed more than 50 St Helena residents including police officers, diplomats, school children, social workers and hospital staff.

They also investigated Ascension Island, home to a Royal Air Force station and 900 residents, a two-hour boat ride from St Helena. The report found evidence of the ‘grooming of children for sex’, particularly on Ascension Island’s bars, where alcohol was used as a ‘disabling narcotic’.

It found young, male workers from the US air base preyed on young girls, saying: ‘The disinhibiting effects of alcohol, and being away from home, community and parental scrutiny meant that some of them considered local girls ‘fair game.’

The charity made 28 recommendations, including the removal of trial by jury for sexual offences on St Helena, claiming locals ‘appeared ‘extremely reluctant to convict alleged perpetrators of sexual abuses unless the perpetrator himself is hated by the community’ and that victims were often viewed as ‘slags’.

It also called for urgent improvements to residential facilities for children and adults with disabilities to ‘avoid a public scandal’.

Charity workers were shown a ‘home made padded cell’ for children who became upset or ‘difficult’, which had only just been taken out of use, at the insistence of a new social services manager.

The buildings where children with physical and learning difficulties were housed were ‘terribly run down and extremely depressing’, while staff were forced to use their own wages to buy enough food for residents.

One unit was used as a ‘dumping ground of sorts’, where residents included a distressed sixteen-year-old being bottle-fed and a woman in her sixties ‘in the final stages of multiple sclerosis’.

A source who used to live on the island said: ‘What I saw happening on the island is absolutely appalling. ‘It reminds me very much of what happened on Pitcairn.’

‘Sexual abuse became part and parcel of island culture. There was a sense that ‘we know we have a problem but why don’t the expats go home and leave us to our island ways’.
UKstan is closely following their Bakistani brothers :rotfl:
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g.sarkar wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... uare-india
Does Gandhi really belong in Parliament Square?
We shouldn't allow a statue of the 'father of Indian democracy in front of the mother of parliaments' to entrench historical amnesia
Priyamvada Gopal
"Mahatma Gandhi's words have long provided grist for instant inspiration. Either via bumper stickers or nuggets of internet wisdom, you're likely to have had "An eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind" or "Be the change you wish to see in the world" thrust upon you at some point. So it's no surprise that Britain announced this week that this "inspiring" signifier of austere piety will be honoured through a statue of his own on Parliament Square next year. Some might argue this is long overdue.
Except that the announcement came as coalition ministers George Osborne and William Hague visited India to hustle for lucrative arms contracts, emerging triumphantly with a £250m deal to supply missiles to the Indian air force and hoping to persuade the former jewel in the imperial crown to buy the partly British-made Eurofighter Typhoon jet......."
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India needs a Patriot Act to punish Indians who work against Indian interests in foreign nations, either by spreading propaganda against the country or tarnishing the global image of its leaders. Dirty linen has to be washed in one's own house, not in the neighbor's. Cancel their passports and force them to return to India, and if they are just PIOs, ban their entry into India. Priyamvada Gopal, Angana Chatterjee ... the list of traitors is becoming long.
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WTF. Sex racket in parliament.Sex in care homes.sex in schools. And whole country is ok with it. No thorough analysis on BBC by all knowing journalists? 6000 people arrested on one day. If it was India.......It is time to setup an NGO to help sexually exploited children in UK. India has t stop issuing visa to British MP until results of any official inquiry are pending.
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The western press has deemed the scandalous conduct of british pedophiles not worthy of coverage.

It is gratifying that the media are solicitous of heathen rape victims in India. I suppose the Church has helped to normalise such conduct in the west. Along with the sex tourism industry, these cultural practices are likely more acceptable when Christians, who can always be saved , are the perpetrators.


I think.
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Singha wrote:the british are famous for such snarky writers...
Especially people like PGW and JKJ, Bertrand Russell etc. Even Marx was in Londonistan. UK was a country that gave a lot to the world - both negative and positive. In my view they did more harm though. As a country populated by good ChristianS, they should repent, confess, and make amends. Rich, classical music loving knights and dames should should give away all their monies to the poor of their former colonies and live in poverty as a "lacerating penance".
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LokeshC wrote:UKstanis are upto no good. Trying to "civilize" the darkies Indians now:

Fight against healthcare graft to focus on India
British Medical Journal (BMJ) has announced the launch of a campaign against corruption in medicine, which will begin with its focus on India. The journal urged people to join its international fight back against kickbacks.

The ​editorial in BMJ regarding the campaign stated that corruption in healthcare was a complex challenge that medical professionals have failed to deal with, either by choosing to enrich themselves, turning a blind eye, or considering it too difficult. Transparency International had concluded that the Indian healthcare sector, is the second most corrupt organization that an ordinary citizen had to encounter (next to the police force).
TOI has as expected sold out to them with this article:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 350397.cms

The the briturds want to 'civilize' medical corruption, they should try to get some control over the US medical system, which I think is more uncivilized than the Indian one.

Now really. Surely the BMI should be more interested in why Glaxo was apparently hiring prostitutes to help sell drugs!

http://www.standard.co.uk/business/busi ... 65714.html

"Police have been investigating claims that GSK funnelled up to 3 billion yuan (£291 million) in cash, as well as offering “gifts”, including prostitutes, since last year."
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Much larger protest over Gaza in London than anywhere in the Arab world. Why am I not surprised only?

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SanjayC wrote: Priyamvada Gopal, Angana Chatterjee ... the list of traitors is becoming long.
Yes. But Ms. Gopal causes that special itch in my unmentionables. But as an exception, I do agree with her in this case, they should not have the statue in Bartania. But my reasons are completely different.
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^^But it was Angana who claimed that she was molested by Indian security forces.
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Hari Seldon wrote:Much larger protest over Gaza in London than anywhere in the Arab world. Why am I not surprised only?

[img==>]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs6ZYxQCEAA8vz5.jpg:large[<==/img]
Well guess what, some info from article written by a paki. Since a large 'plurality' them are expat Pakistanis
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There are three million — unofficially seven million — Pakistanis living outside Pakistan whose thinking about Pakistan tends to be different from the desi Pakistani. They now coyly call themselves “conservative Muslims” and are far less integrated into the host society than non-Muslim expat communities. This is so because of double alienation. The anger against the home country — for not being Islamic enough — which is double that against the hosts, for not being Islamic. Some Muslims flee Pakistan protesting religious persecution but once in the UK, want to create the same hardline religious conditions they have fled.
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Not to mention how UK govt is blamed too alongwith
the UK government has encouraged different minority communities to define their notion of education and to devise their own curriculum. And when it goes disastrously wrong, as in Birmingham, rather than question its own policies, it blames the community.
There you go, blame the govt and not why things go wrong even when Muslim community devise own curriculum.
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Hari Seldon wrote:Much larger protest over Gaza in London than anywhere in the Arab world. Why am I not surprised only?
Not for nothing is it called Londonistan.
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vishvak wrote: Well guess what, some info from article written by a paki. Since a large 'plurality' them are expat Pakistanis
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A minor nitpick. Please refer to overseas Bakis as immigrants. Refer to overseas Indians as expats.
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My goodness. Such big protests for the Gaza military operation. Have we heard anything from these humanitarians on the 100s of people being killed regularly by Boko Haram?
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Can someone explain to me why we are still in the "CommonWealth":

Comparing Delhi & Glasgow is chalk and cheese: CGF
GLASGOW: Top officials of the Commonwealth Games Federation today patted the Glasgow 2014 organisers for a smooth-sailing build-up and for saving the CGF from 2010 Delhi-like "headache".
One of my friends said it best during the last CWG: Hosting the CWG is like celebrating your rape with your rapist.
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Just got back from Londonistan after a week's visit. That place scares me more than ever. More nikabs and burkas than I have seen in my five earlier visits. Although I must clarify that English have started to speak up, privately of course.
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Britain needs more Islam. Both oppressed Muslims and White racists hate Hindus so why are Indians worried about intra Mlecchas fight. ? Our worry should be limited to making sure that no one group of Mleccha overpowers other completely. They should be a balance of power.

Meanwhile, The united front against racism has fragmented, with some choosing flight instead of fight which means the White racists are hitting back.
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HOW LOW CAN YOU GO??
LOWER THAN LABOUR??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... names.html
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Rony wrote:Britain needs more Islam. Both oppressed Muslims and White racists hate Hindus so why are Indians worried about intra Mlecchas fight. ? Our worry should be limited to making sure that no one group of Mleccha overpowers other completely. They should be a balance of power.

Meanwhile, The united front against racism has fragmented, with some choosing flight instead of fight which means the White racists are hitting back.
Seems like they are going to get more islam, endorsed by archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams. "Ache din" for Londonistan. :mrgreen:

'Islam is reviving British values', says former Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams
Islam is rejuvenating “British values”, the former Archbishop of Canterbury has claimed while lambasting sections of the press for presenting Muslims as “un-British”.

Rowan Williams was giving a speech at the annual Living Islam Festival in Lincolnshire on Friday, discussing what British values were and how Muslims could affect them.
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Meanwhile in the Islamic republic of birminghamStan.....
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/mi ... ed-7552980
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Looks like they are going to have a debate in the House of Commons on "Human Rights in J&K"?!!!

Its high time we got out of the commonwealth!
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David Ward of Bradford East is driving this....
British parliament agrees to debate Kashmir ‘rights violation’

Of course, our leaders will not hesitate in praising the genocidal British rule of India...
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How does one start a demand for debate in Indian Parliament on the proposition:
The game of cricket is threatened by the persistent dishonesty and foul mouths of England players, and the corrupt nature of the MCC and ICC
Also on the British Colonial Occupation and Genocide in the Malvinas and St. Helena and Diego Garcia
India needs to give these buggers something to think about.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... -Gaza.html

Hammond condemns 'intolerable suffering' in Gaza


more than USA. more than France or Germany or Russia or Sweden or China or India or any other country.....UK seems to be siding with the Islamics even at the highest levels of government machinery quite openly.

I think there is a genuine affinity for Islam among the UK elites. disturbing.
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UlanBatori wrote:How does one start a demand for debate in Indian Parliament on the proposition:
The game of cricket is threatened by the persistent dishonesty and foul mouths of England players, and the corrupt nature of the MCC and ICC
Also on the British Colonial Occupation and Genocide in the Malvinas and St. Helena and Diego Garcia
India needs to give these buggers something to think about.
India should investigate UK for their role in invading iraq along with george bush resulting in deaths of at least a million iraqis and turning iraq into killing fields. If this is not a crime against humanity then I wonder what is.
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Anindya wrote:David Ward of Bradford East is driving this....
British parliament agrees to debate Kashmir ‘rights violation’

Of course, our leaders will not hesitate in praising the genocidal British rule of India...
But GOI voted for "human rights" in Gaza condemning Israel. Surely the influence all the Gulf countries have over UK will come in handy now?
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The WHO has warned that the Ebola outbreak in Africa has been taken too casually and is rapidly spreading.Once it gets to Europe,it will spread like wildfire with free transit within the EU.The GOI should take immediate steps to install med. counters at all airports as Ebola has NO cure.

Ebola: Gatwick scare for 'petrified' staff and passengers after woman on west Africa flight collapses and dies
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 45617.html
Gatwick was struck with an Ebola scare at the weekend after a woman collapsed and died after arriving from west Africa.

The passenger, in her 70s, showed no symptoms on the flight from Gambia but became unwell on arrival at the south England airport on Saturday. She had flown with Gambia Bird.

The woman was taken to hospital where she died, though subsequent tests for Ebola came back negative. There have been no confirmed cases in the UK thus far.

Dr Brian McCloskey, Director of global public health at Public Health England, said: “There was no health risk to other passengers or crew, as the passenger did not have symptoms during the flight.

“It was considered very unlikely to be a case of Ebola but testing was done as a precaution, and was negative.
“The correct procedures were followed to confirm there was no reason to quarantine the airplane, the passengers or staff.”

Airport staff spoke of how the woman was apparently sweating and vomiting before paramedics, immigration and airfield operations turned up to take everyone's details.

The staff member told the Daily Mirror: “Everyone’s just ­petrified.
No, the woman who died at Gatwick did not have Ebola

“We’ve all seen how many people have died from Ebola, especially in Sierra Leone, and it’s terrifying.”

The flight, carrying 128 people, had reportedly travelled from Sierra Leone, then had stopped at Gambia before carrying on its journey to the UK.


Ebola has killed at least 800 people since it began spreading through the western African countries of Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone. One man died in Nigeria after boarding an international flight from Liberia to Lagos.

The World Health Organisation (WHO) says that the outbreak of the deadly disease, which causes kidney and liver failure in its victims, is one of the largest ever recorded.

A spokesperson for Gatwick said: “As a precaution, the aircraft was isolated, as were relevant airline and airport staff. At every stage, we took advice from Public Health England, which cleared the aircraft for its return journey.”

It comes as a second American aid worker prepares to be flown back to the US for specialised treatment at a Georgian hospital after contracting the virulent disease.

Nancy Writebol, a Christian missionary, had been working in Liberia with another recuperating Ebola victim, Dr Kent Brantly, when she became infected.

READ MORE: Atlanta hospital receives hate mail
Infected American missionary Dr Brantly arrives in US
When will our politicians realise that Africa has changed?

She had been working as a hygienist decontaminating people coming through the Ebola treatment area at a hospital in Monrovia, in the same compound where Dr Brantly worked as a physician.

Dr Brantly was the first to be sent back to the US, arriving on Saturday, after being quarantined in a customised Gulfstream III aircraft. Both missionaries will receive care within the infectious disease unit at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta.

The pastor of Ms Writebol’s church in her hometown of Charlotte, North Carolina, said that she is in good spirits despite her diagnosis.

Critics have attacked the return of the infected workers to US soil, claiming that they are jeopardising the health of fellow citizens.

The US Centres of Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said it had received “nasty emails” and at least 100 calls from people saying: “How dare you being Ebola into the country!”

Businessman Donald Trump has also been on the warpath, taking to Twitter to say that American aid workers battling Ebola should not be allowed to return home for treatment.
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X Posted from the STFUP thread.
Lisa wrote:Baroness Warsi quits as Foreign Office minister over Gaza

Its only fitting that the Baroness take a stand but would be infinitely better if she moved back home to pukistan and surrendered her passport. All this not withstanding what is happening in Waziristan, matters on which she had no opinion, knowledge, outrage, morally indefensiblity.........!

Hypocrites!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28656874
So Sayeeda Warsi’s liberal veneer peeled off and there was a reversion to viewing all manner of things through green tinted glasses of Mohammadden religion. Having said that there is no chance of Sayeeda Warsi surrendering her UK passport and taking up Pakistani nationality irrespective of the green tinged Mohammadden grievance she is now nursing.

Meanwhile UK Newspaper Spectators headline reads as “Baroness Warsi was over-promoted, incapable and incompetent” :lol: . To that Spectator should have added supporter of Mohammadden Jihadi Terrorism in Jammu & Kashmir.

If she can be persuaded to quit from the Conservative party as well, that will be one less potential future irritant in relations between Conservative party led UK Government and India:
Baroness Warsi was over-promoted, incapable and incompetent

Warsi’s track-record of dubious support goes on. For instance, she expressed support for Kashmiri terrorist groups who she described as engaged in freedom fighting.
Spectators headline is not the only negative one in the UK. One more uncomplimentary headline dealing with the Pakistani origin politicians resignation :

Baroness Token Resigns. Never Buy the First Pony You See
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This Britainistan sermonizing Indians has been going on for far too long.

Interference of UK in Kashmir unacceptable: BJP
Jammu and Kashmir BJP on Tuesday condemned the reported move to hold a 'special debate' in the British House of Commons on human rights situation in Kashmir, saying it was "a brazen interference" in India's internal affairs.

"The decision of the UK Government to hold a 'special debate' on the human rights situation in Kashmir in the House of Commons is a brazen interference in the internal affairs of India," BJP state president and MP Jugal Kishore Sharma said.

He said that Jammu & Kashmir "is a settled issue and cannot be reopened under any pretext whatsoever".

Sharma said the BJP would have appreciated had the House taken up the issue of "persecuted minority communities" in the Valley.
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Good riddance to that 8itch warsi. it was a big mistake to appoint her. She was never elected anyway.

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It is strange how concerned people in UK never bother to point out x-border terrorism by pakis, ethnic cleansing of entire Kashmiri Pandit community, armed infiltration since 1947 from across the border, hate propaganda against Indians in media across the border and international levels, and so on and so forth.

Much like Israel-Palestine situation when no one bothered when tunnels across the borders were built, rockets were assembled and then even when Israel has been attacked with rockets. But when Israel takes action, more-concerned-than-thou suddenly come out with human rights propaganda. Don't they know what they are dealing with here - even when UK was among the most wealthiest and most educated region during colonial and post colonial times.
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