Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 20 Aug 2013 21:31

Rudra,does the pecking order of talking heads/thinktanks in your earlier post still hold good? Sometimes,the mandarins of the State Dept.,feign ignorance.I once heard a US expert,whose talk was sponsored by the US embassy, pontificate about S.Asian maritime security,blah,blah.When asked what designs the US had on Trinco,he said ,"Trinco? Where? There was a roar of laughter from the assembled gathering that greeted his feigned "ignorance"!

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 20 Aug 2013 23:06

To be able to gift away Cashmere, any government will have to find a way to around 1994 resolution. This effectively mean a clear brute majority. Most likey, won't happen in this parliament. Next one, by most ideas will be a not-cong-upa (simple? thin?) majority situation.

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 20 Aug 2013 23:26

what use is the resolution, if GoI is weak and TSP and PRC pinch off parts of J&K even before the coming of next strong gov?

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 21 Aug 2013 00:09

Pakistan is not strong enough to militarily pinch off Cashmere from India [China is a different beast].

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 21 Aug 2013 00:23

Dipanker ji, you are correct but I still fear. We already lost part of J&K without China aiding them, what ever be the reason and no matter how they did it, loosing land is loosing land. Another Op Gilbraltar or Kargil and moans and meows by MMS after the execution and till the completion of their perfidy, if MMS can say "thek hain", the job can be done.

neeraj · Post by **neeraj** » 21 Aug 2013 00:24

Afghanistan is safer for sports

Afghanistan beat Pakistan 3-0 in Kabul friendly

Afghanistan's footballers have triumphed 3-0 over Pakistan in a friendly match, the first international game played in Kabul in a decade.

The home side dominated the game from the kick-off , going three goals ahead mid-way through the second half to the delight of their rapturous supporters.

Older news
Pakistan bomb at Karachi football match kills 11

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 21 Aug 2013 00:27

kenop wrote:To be able to gift away Cashmere, any government will have to find a way to around 1994 resolution. This effectively mean a clear brute majority. Most likey, won't happen in this parliament. Next one, by most ideas will be a not-cong-upa (simple? thin?) majority situation.

Interesting that the resolution makes no mention of the part of PoK gifted to the Chinese. The resolution only asks Pakistan to vacate

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 21 Aug 2013 01:01

ISI supplies fake Indian currency notes to operatives: Tunda

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 21 Aug 2013 01:33

Bending over backwards : Pakistan paves way for $7.3 bln IMF loan

ISLAMABAD: The federal government has advised the State Bank of Pakistan to immediately purchase $100 million from the open market in a move to fulfill the last remaining condition set by International Monetary Fund to qualify for a $7.3 billion loan, according to sources in Ministry of Finance.

Sources said that the IMF has asked Pakistan to mop up dollars from the market, as the country’s net foreign reserves excluding forward contract liabilities and IMF’s immediate liabilities, have slipped into negative.

The net reserves, held by the SBP, stood at $5.2 billion as of August 2. Out of that, the SBP owes $2.4 billion in forward contracts while the IMF’s immediate liabilities have been estimated at over $3 billion.

Cheers

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 21 Aug 2013 01:49

Pakistan seizes 100 tons of bomb-making equipment in Quetta
No more IED mobaraks

. No need for me to come to this thread anymore.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 21 Aug 2013 02:40

venug wrote:Pakistan seizes 100 tons of bomb-making equipment in Quetta

Only means that State Bank of Pakistan has seized 100 crores of black money from private banks

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 21 Aug 2013 03:02

Kashmir is India’s problem, not ours

Kashmir is India’s problem, not ours. This does not mean that our claim on Kashmir is not valid. It’s more than doubly valid. Kashmir, however, became India’s problem when Maharaja Hari Singh signed the instrument of accession with the government of India, on October 27, 1947, ignoring the principles of geographical contiguity, ethnic compatibility and the faith of an overwhelming majority of the population. He was actually seeking Indian military protection against his own subjects who had risen in revolt against his oppressive rule. This revolt had been simmering since around 1931. Huge agitations had followed in 1934. In 1946, Sheikh Abdullah of the National Conference launched the Quit Kashmir Movement, seeking the Maharaja’s ouster. On July 26, 1946, the Muslim Conference adopted the Azad Kashmir Resolution. The revolt that erupted in Kashmir, in August 1947, drew its inspiration more from the Quit Kashmir Movement and the Azad Kashmir Resolution of 1946 rather than from the immediate provocation of Partition — though the demonstrations that engulfed the valley turned pro-Pakistan only when fired upon.

Interestingly, at the time of signing of the instrument of accession, the then Indian Governor General, Mountbatten, had remarked: “It is my government’s wish that as soon as law and order has been restored and her soil is cleared of the invader, the question of the state’s accession should be settled by a reference to the people.” His remark and the offer made by the Indian government to conduct a plebiscite or referendum to determine Kashmir’s future status had made it into more of an Indian problem than ours. Maharaja Hari Singh, while signing the instrument of accession, had actually palmed off, to India, ‘Azad Kashmir’ — not a state willingly joining the Indian Union. By 1952, Sheikh Abdullah had become totally disillusioned with the Indian government’s consistent failure to fulfil its promise of according special status to Kashmir. He began insisting on self-determination. His government was dismissed and he was arrested in August 1953, after which New Delhi tried to push the Kashmir problem under the carpet forever, by getting a puppet assembly, led by Bakhshi Ghulam Muhammad, to ratify the instrument of accession, in 1954.

There was no way India could have resolved the ‘Azad Kashmir’ problem with brute force. The 1960s, 70s and even 80s were the decades of freedom movements. World opinion was with freedom-seeking subjugated nationalities and sub-nationalities. Patience was required on our part. But that was what we lacked then and lack now. We immediately turned Kashmir into an Indo-Pakistan problem by sending in army-led lashkars into Kashmir, on October 22, 1947. These were Cold War days. We had chosen the American camp and India, the Soviet one. So, not surprisingly, we lost our Kashmir case to superpower rivalries. By the way, Gilgit-Baltistan was not liberated by these unruly lashkars. This region won its freedom, at about the time of Partition, as a result of a heroic struggle launched by officers in the Hari Singh Army, stationed in the Northern Areas. We aggravated the situation in Indian-held Kashmir by sending in infiltrators, in 1965, which led to a full-fledged India-Pakistan war, which, in turn, made it almost impossible for the Kashmiri freedom fighters to make the world believe that what was happening inside Indian-held Kashmir was not a Pakistan-sponsored separatist movement. In the process, we turned a purely Indian problem into a bilateral one, forcing the world to choose sides. Then, in the 1990s, we further aggravated the issue by sending into IHK, well-trained, well-armed jihadis. In retaliation, India increased its troop strength in the valley. An indigenous, peaceful Kashmiri intifada had turned into a bloody battle, with innocent Kashmiris caught in the crossfire, dying by the hundreds. The icing on the cake was Kargil. This was when our regular troops were caught red-handed impersonating the so-called Kashmiri freedom fighters with the world looking on. If we could get out of the equation, even at this late hour, perhaps India would soon realise the impossibility of keeping a people under perpetual bondage.

Cheers

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 21 Aug 2013 03:19

Agree, but then I believe Sind and Baluchistan as well as Balwaristan to be India's problem.

(India needs to clean up Pakistan's garbage in these areas of historical India, as a civilisational duty).

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 21 Aug 2013 03:22

Zulfikar Bhutto regretted not Creating 'Sindhudesh' at the fag end of his life when he was about to be hanged ?

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 21 Aug 2013 03:59

venug wrote:Dipanker ji, you are correct but I still fear. We already lost part of J&K without China aiding them, what ever be the reason and no matter how they did it, loosing land is loosing land. Another Op Gilbraltar or Kargil and moans and meows by MMS after the execution and till the completion of their perfidy, if MMS can say "thek hain", the job can be done.

We lost part of Kashmir in 1947 due to Nehru's folly, he may have been thinking that UN brokers will side with India. That was the poor reading on his part. Hopefully we have learnt our lessons from that experience.

MMS is in minority govt., he is simply not in position to give away anything.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 21 Aug 2013 05:02

What Happen to Putin'visit to Pakistan which was supposed to be made last year?
Has it been rescheduled for upcoming Feb 31?

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/08 ... .html?_r=0
]Pakistan's Ex-Head Musharraf Charged in Bhutto AssAsIsNation
( Koi Sharm, Hayya Nahi)

Musharraf, who became a key U.S. ally in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks, pleaded not guilty. The decision by the court in Rawalpindi marked the first time a current or former army chief has been charged with a crime in the country. Musharraf, a 70-year-old former commando who took power in a 1999 coup and stepped down from office in disgrace nearly a decade later, now faces a string of legal problems that in many ways challenge the military's sacrosanct status in Pakistani society. The retired general was charged with murder, conspiracy to commit murder and facilitation for murder, said prosecutor Chaudhry Muhammed Azhar. He did not detail the accusations against Musharraf, but prosecutors have alleged he failed to provide enough protection to Bhutto as she led her Pakistan People's Party in a parliamentary election that might have given her a third term as prime minister. She was killed in a gun and bomb attack at a rally in Rawalpindi, near the capital, Islamabad. The charges also include clearing the scene of a crime and destroying evidence, Azhar said.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Aug 2013 06:56

sanjaykumar wrote:Agree, but then I believe Sind and Baluchistan as well as Balwaristan to be India's problem.

(India needs to clean up Pakistan's garbage in these areas of historical India, as a civilisational duty).

When India realizes Pakistan is India's problem and sets about rectifying that problem, there will be goodness all around.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Aug 2013 06:58

Prem Kumar wrote:
kenop wrote:To be able to gift away Cashmere, any government will have to find a way to around 1994 resolution. This effectively mean a clear brute majority. Most likey, won't happen in this parliament. Next one, by most ideas will be a not-cong-upa (simple? thin?) majority situation.
Interesting that the resolution makes no mention of the part of PoK gifted to the Chinese. The resolution only asks Pakistan to vacate

Prem Kumar, the resolution refers to the state of J&K which includes Shaksgam. As far as India is concerned, it does not recognize the treaty signed in 1963.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 21 Aug 2013 07:29

Why this irrational fear that some Govt in future will or can gift away J&K to Pakistan as part of some deal.
GoI is not some independent entity lording over the real estate called Bharat. Unless someone is powerful enough to snatch J&K out of cold prying hands of India by force, no GoI is powerful or willed enough to give away this Land.

I don't know why posters here every few days bring it up and foist on poor MMS that he going to trade away J&K in search of some ellusive Nobel prize. Poor guy can't give away cabinet ministry to someone of his liking.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 21 Aug 2013 07:55

VikasRainaJi,

When 26/11 happened, and there was universal revulsion at TSP, would you have guessed that in just a year so, MMS would have surrendered and started to make piss with his long lost Paki terrorist cousins? Worse, would you have guessed that Indian voters will have return him to power if he sells India out on 26/11? Thats exactly what they did. Would you have surmised that in just a few years, 26/11 will not even be a footnote in India's consciousness? Except for "Hindu extremists", who talks about 26/11 anymore? Finally, would you have guessed that Narendra Modi will become a bigger villain in the eyes of MMS/Sonia and their cohorts than HafeezPigLet?

Likewise, as we speak (not the topic of this thread), MMS and his madam are out to pull off another gigantic fraud to win re-election: food security bill gimmick. And you know how difficult it would be to stop that.

Thus, I argue, that gifting away Kashmir in slow motion through some "joint management" or ownership can easily be sold to a gullible, apathetic Indian public at large with no sense of nationalism, by cretins like MSA and others. In fact, they will do it so skillfully by saying what they are doing "is in the interest of vast majority of Indians", and any middle-class nationalist opposing that will be rendered impotent.

partha · Post by **partha** » 21 Aug 2013 08:49

http://tribune.com.pk/story/593001/econ ... 7-3b-loan/

ISLAMABAD:

Pakistan has met all prior conditions imposed by the International Monetary Fund (IMF) for qualifying for a loan of up to $7.3 billion.

In order to meet the last outstanding action, the federal government had advised the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) to immediately purchase $100 million from the open market to build up foreign currency reserves, as desired by the IMF, said sources in the finance ministry.

Now is a good time to revisit an article from June 2013

http://tribune.com.pk/story/563092/bail ... -says-dar/

ISLAMABAD:

The suspense over the timing of a government request for an International Monetary Fund (IMF) bailout finally ended on Thursday when Finance Minister Ishaq Dar said a new package will be negotiated — but on Pakistan’s terms.

Addressing the post-budget press conference, the finance minister said Pakistan will negotiate a new programme with the Fund to obtain a loan for meeting its obligations towards the institution, but “national interests” will not be compromised.

Dar said in its visit from June 19, the IMF mission will also review the country’s ability to pay back the earlier obtained loans.

“Talks will also be held for a programme but on terms and conditions of Pakistan,” said Dar. The IMF’s dictation will not be accepted, he added.

And somewhere in between the display of bravado and downhill skiing in true Pakistani tradition, Ishaq Dar reassured the nashun -

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-1 ... l-debt-Dar

ISLAMABAD: Federal Minister for Finance Senator Muhammad Ishaq Dar on Wednesday said that the loan from the IMF would not increase Pakistan’s external debt as the new loan would be utilised to return the previous loan.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 21 Aug 2013 09:04

Thinking Aloud: Muslims, Islam, West and the rest — II —Razi Azmi
Ek Nya PoaqaPoo: Mai Naa Mannu

To suggest that these young Muslim men kill themselves and others because they cannot wait to get their quota of ‘72 heavenly virgins’ is simply ridiculous and insulting. And what of the female suicide bombers? In Chechnya they have been called ‘black widows’ because their mission is to avenge the killing of their husbands. Every serious research, most notably by University of Chicago’s Robert Papp, has refuted the connection between suicide bombings and heavenly goals and shown its link to politico-military objectives.
Psychology professor Scott Atran writes that most of these radical young men “are ‘born again’ in their late teens and early twenties and have little knowledge of religion beyond the fact that they consider themselves ‘true Muslims’ who must fight enemies near and far to defend their friends and the faith that makes their friendship meaningful and enduring.” Riaz Hassan, of Flinders University in Australia, writes that suicide may provide, for some, “self-empowerment in the face of powerlessness, redemption in the face of damnation and honour in the face of humiliation.”The way some people talk these days, it would seem that Muslims are not just intellectually deficient but not even fully evolved as human beings. Mike Huckabee, a former Arkansas governor and a presidential hopeful, has described Muslims emerging from mosques after their Friday prayer “like uncorked animals”, throwing rocks and burning cars.The highly regarded biologist, Richard Dawkins, wonders why the world’s billion-plus Muslims have won fewer Nobel prizes than Trinity College, Cambridge in the UK. Why shouldn’t he ask the same of Indians, Chinese and Africans, who also number over one billion each? And, as far as I know, not a single person from the combined Indigenous populations of North and South America, Australia and New Zealand, not even one Polynesian, Melanesian or South-East Asian has ever won a Nobel prize (not counting the peace prize). We don’t ask why, because we know why.In any case, if one subscribes to the argument about Quranic verses or ‘heavenly houris’ to be the cause of the current spate of terrorist acts and suicide bombings perpetrated by Muslims, one must also believe that Islam originated in the last decades of the 20th century. The truth is that Muslims have followed Islam, read the Quran and congregated in mosques for prayers every Friday for over 1,400 years without engaging in vandalism, terrorism or suicide bombings. It is only in the last two decades or so, under a set of historical, economic and political circumstances, some complex, others not so, that some Muslims, a mere handful out of a population of well over one billion, are resorting to acts of terrorism, although the Islamic faith has been alive and well for 14 centuries.(

To be continued)
The writer is a former Rickshaw Driver and a patient in modern history Hasaptal and can be contacted at http://www.raziazmi.com or raziazmi@hotmail.com to get fleas.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 21 Aug 2013 09:29

If true, I hope our guys are on the watch

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 947970.cms

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Aug 2013 09:32

CRamS wrote:When 26/11 happened, and there was universal revulsion at TSP, would you have guessed that in just a year so, MMS would have surrendered and started to make piss with his long lost Paki terrorist cousins?

Or, for that matter, when the cousins met at Agra after what happened at Kargil ?

Whether the posters here believe in some future governmentgifting away Indian land to Pakistan or not, the Parliament certainly felt of such a possibility and that was why there was that 1994 resolution ?

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 21 Aug 2013 12:14

SSridhar wrote:
CRamS wrote:When 26/11 happened, and there was universal revulsion at TSP, would you have guessed that in just a year so, MMS would have surrendered and started to make piss with his long lost Paki terrorist cousins?
Or, for that matter, when the cousins met at Agra after what happened at Kargil ?

Whether the posters here believe in some future governmentgifting away Indian land to Pakistan or not, the Parliament certainly felt of such a possibility and that was why there was that 1994 resolution ?

God bless the Man from Manthani.

Oh, and IB4TL

Mahesh_R · Post by **Mahesh_R** » 21 Aug 2013 13:33

CRamS wrote: gullible, apathetic Indian public at large with no sense of nationalism

Sir...I beg to differ on the above quote..request you to please refrain from blaming INDIAN PUBLIC for the misdeeds of few politicians ...
I guess you might not spoke with people around you (if you are in India)... everyone is aware of what is happening its ONLY that there is nothing much the INDIAN PUBLIC can do until next elections...or the public memory is too small to remember these issues in their day to day struggle...

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 21 Aug 2013 14:04

VikasRaina ji, we have to fear an irrational enemy whose sole purpose of being alive is to kill you and that too when we are mired by incompetence. Remember one of their jihadi brigadiers hoped to lobe nukes on us. Sure we have given them bloody nose, sure we are more powerful, but not every day is Sunday. Without fear and preparation no point in being strong. Fear is healthy thing, it doesn't mean our tail is between our legs, but it will keep us alert and prepared.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 21 Aug 2013 14:07

14:02 'Taliban call centre' busted in Pak, 5 held: Police in Pakistan have busted an illegal telephone gateway exchange here allegedly being operated by the Taliban to make ransom calls to families of persons kidnapped by them including the sons of former premier Yousuf Raza Gilani and slain Punjab governor Salman Taseer.

Though the Lahore police chief Rai Tahir did not confirm how many arrests were made during yesterday's raid, police sources say at least five suspects including women have also been taken into custody.

call center to make ransom calls, happns only in pakiland

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 21 Aug 2013 14:13

^^^ proof that TSP is an advanced IT service provider

kidoman · Post by **kidoman** » 21 Aug 2013 14:18

Some retribution finally..
Porki Army captain Killed

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 21 Aug 2013 14:27

High class ransom call service to families of only premiers and governors, very piously and peacefully 'operated' to 'make' ransom calls as per highest standards of Taliban-goatnapping in bakistan. Press 6 for Urdu, 12 for Arap, 72 for female operator!

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 21 Aug 2013 15:17

Mahesh_R wrote:
CRamS wrote: gullible, apathetic Indian public at large with no sense of nationalism
Sir...I beg to differ on the above quote..request you to please refrain from blaming INDIAN PUBLIC for the misdeeds of few politicians ...
I guess you might not spoke with people around you (if you are in India)... everyone is aware of what is happening its ONLY that there is nothing much the INDIAN PUBLIC can do until next elections...or the public memory is too small to remember these issues in their day to day struggle...

Sorry for OT, but you have a very small sample size then. Common people are ignorant, selfish and stupid.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 21 Aug 2013 16:36

venug wrote:...we have to fear an irrational enemy....

As compared to "rational enemies"? Just yanking your chain....

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 21 Aug 2013 16:43

Anupmisra ji, I see what you mean, but I see a subtle difference. If you have a soosai bomber who has a death wish, he not only has no care for his sorry life, but will take you down as against an enemy who doesn't have a soosai vest.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Aug 2013 17:13

TSP Trained Terrorists Planning to Attack South India - ToI

The Maharashtra police have received a terror alert from central intelligence agencies warning that eight militants are undergoing training in Pakistan-based camps to attack targets in south India from Sri Lanka.

Sent by the joint director of VIP Security (under the Union home ministry) in New Delhi in mid-August, the nine-page alert states that four of the terror trainees are "Punjabis and the remaining Kashmiris or Pathans". Their "drop-off point" is expected to be around 28km off Jaffna and their target could be Mayiladuthurai or Madurai in Tamil Nadu, according to the alert.

The warning asks security agencies across the country to be on high alert since the attack may come in "a few months". Following the notice's receipt, the Mumbai police have activated all their sources of information.

A passage on the alert's third page reads, "Sri Lankan agencies are reported to have arrested three suspected Pak nationals on February 2, 2013, who confessed to having visited Mumbai and Thiruvananthapuram on Sri Lankan passports."

It continues: "An unconfirmed input suggests entry of such elements in Kerala or Tamil Nadu through sea route with the connivance of Sinhalese fishermen. It has been reported that LeT ( Lashkar-e-Taiba) is working on a plot to carry out attacks in India and eight terror suspects are being trained in Pakistan".

The alert expresses concern over the attempts of several terror outfits—including LeT, Babbar Khalsa International, Jaish-e-Mohammed, Jamat-ud-Dawaa, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Al-Umer Mujahideen, Hizb-ul-Mujahideen—at joining hands to organize strikes in India. It also points to several Pakistan-based groups' efforts to use Sri Lanka as the launching pad for their operations in India.

The warning mentions various intelligence inputs gathered over time. One such input suggested the LeT is plotting to target the Wagah border crossing, particularly during the flag-lowering ceremony.

Another bit of information—received in September 2012 and uncorroborated—said that Lashkar-e-Jhangvi is planning a 26/11-style attack in New Delhi. Yet another input was of a meeting, "organised by LeT commander Habib ur Rehman", of commanders of several militant outfits in Muzaffarabad in Pakistan this year. During the meet, the alert says, Rehman pressured the commanders to push maximum possible cadres into India to carry out "small targeted actions" in different parts of the country.

The warning also speaks of an input of a meeting of terror groups where they decided to avenge the execution of Parliament attack convict, Afzal Guru, by striking Tihar jail in New Delhi.

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 21 Aug 2013 18:45

kidoman wrote:Some retribution finally..
Porki Army captain Killed

I know that some of my birathers are perplexed at the low paki headcount meeting their 72. I have a few theories about why, with a brief POV attached as to the theory's plausibility. Here goes:

1.) Using Track II diplomacy, in the interests of Aman Ki (Tam)Asha the TSPA agreed to evacuate three posts. Unfortunately, the dhimmi captain and couple of his mates didn't understand. So the captain got his 72 whereas the Abdul jawan missed his 72 by 71.9 -

Highly unlikely because our Track II guys were busy warming their seats in various TV studios and basking under the lights singing Aman ki Asha. HIGHLY IMPLAUSIBLE

2) At the sign of the first shot hitting the bunker, an immediate browning of shalwars took place. Everyone rushed to get out. The poor captain and his Jawan found the going very slippery and met his 72

Quite Plausible because one TFTA = ten SDRE and the browning and running ratio is the same. 10 times more, 10 times faster than SDREs

3) After the carnage and removal of the rubble, the pakis found it difficult to count.

Very Plausible. Like, heck man, how can you count if you have pig trotters for hands and feet? Hain ji

With due humble apologies to the pigs. AoA (Ack O Ack courtesy the IA) and all that

Cheers
(was getting bored and no sarcasm was ever implied :p)

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 21 Aug 2013 19:01

venug wrote:Anupmisra ji, I see what you mean, but I see a subtle difference. If you have a soosai bomber who has a death wish, he not only has no care for his sorry life, but will take you down as against an enemy who doesn't have a soosai vest.

I understand what you mean. Here are my two cents. When it comes to doped-out "pakistonies", there is only one kind (irrespective of a death-wish or a desire to live off others' misery). Their faith is the drug that makes them rabid and, therefore, there is no difference between a moderate and a fanatic paki. Just different shades of rabidity.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 21 Aug 2013 19:09

kidoman wrote:Some retribution finally..
Porki Army captain Killed

In the radio intercepts, weren't the paki officers directing their front line soldiers to take shelter in a mosque? So hiding in a gutter or a mosque is the standard operating procedure.

Secondly, based on the TOI/NDTV videos which I saw that showed IA retaliation, the total destruction of those 4 to 5 bunkers shold have caused many more momeens to meet their 72. Is the paki army hiding the actual casualty figures?

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 21 Aug 2013 19:31

anupmisra wrote:
venug wrote:Anupmisra ji, I see what you mean, but I see a subtle difference. If you have a soosai bomber who has a death wish, he not only has no care for his sorry life, but will take you down as against an enemy who doesn't have a soosai vest.
I understand what you mean. Here are my two cents. When it comes to doped-out "pakistonies", there is only one kind (irrespective of a death-wish or a desire to live off others' misery). Their faith is the drug that makes them rabid and, therefore, there is no difference between a moderate and a fanatic paki. Just different shades of rabidity.

Absolutely. Existence of pukistan itself is irrational. Entire pukistan is a rabid suicidal eco and bio system. Each paki is a voluntary or involuntary function of it and hence there should be no differentiation.

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 21 Aug 2013 20:01

anupmisra wrote:
kidoman wrote:Some retribution finally..
Porki Army captain Killed
In the radio intercepts, weren't the paki officers directing their front line soldiers to take shelter in a mosque? So hiding in a gutter or a mosque is the standard operating procedure.

Secondly, based on the TOI/NDTV videos which I saw that showed IA retaliation, the total destruction of those 4 to 5 bunkers shold have caused many more momeens to meet their 72. Is the paki army hiding the actual casualty figures?

I bet a lot more pigs were dispatched to jannat.. In one of the videos released (TOI or Undie TV), I remember a hyper ventilating journo mentioning that "a white flag was raised!"

after IA assault

.. (Probably a white flag and a collapsible flag pole comes as a part of standard issue equipment by TSPA to its pigs).. sadly there is no video of it ..

I wish the next time IA kicks paki butts with L70s, they should capture such pakiness on video and then shame the TSPA publicly..