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A_Gupta wrote:http://www.indiatvnews.com/news/world/x ... 23619.html

What does this mean?
The Chinese and Sri Lankan presidents today discussed prospects of trilateral cooperation with India to address New Delhi's security concerns in the Indian Ocean besides ways to boost defence cooperation including personnel training and providing military hardware to Colombo.
What it means is the diplomatese of saying that the China-Sri Lanka defence cooperation will continue and even deepen. The first ever visit of a Chinese defence minister ever to Sri Lanka took place less than three years back and within two years of such a visit, PLAN's nuclear submarines docked in Colombo and soon thereafter Chinese troops participated in a joint exercise in Sri Lanka. There were also reports of Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Maldivian troops joining later.

All Sri Lankan politicians are smooth talkers but very hard nosed otherwise. The proposed trilateral cooperation is simply to an attempt to make India complacent while allowing further Chinese inroads into SL. The behaviour of TN political parties on the Ealam and fishermen issues is adding to the cauldron.
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Maritime Silk Road to reset Beijing-Colombo ties - Atul Aneja, The Hindu
Looking beyond the controversy on the Colombo port project, China and Sri Lanka have decided to carve a new strategic framework for their relationship defined by the Maritime Silk Road, and avoid a clash with India through a Beijing-Colombo-New Delhi trilateral partnership.

Hosting visiting Sri Lankan President Maithripala Sirisena at the Great Hall of the People on Thursday, Chinese President Xi Jinping said Sri Lanka was a strategic partner and Beijing wanted to “again promote and elevate the China-Sri Lanka relationship to fulfil an important purpose.”

The Sri Lankan President told Mr. Xi that work on the stalled $1.4-billion Colombo Port City Project would resume after problems were “sorted out,” a Chinese Foreign Ministry official said.
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Visa on arrival for Chinese Citizens coming to India.

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Not a Zero-sum Game - Editorial, The Hindu
With his state visit to China just weeks after Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s trip to Sri Lanka, President Maithripala Sirisena appears to be trying to balance relations with the two countries that have the greatest influence in the island nation today: India and China. Since taking charge, several decisions by Mr. Sirisena’s government have given China cause for concern, in particular the suspension of the $1.4-billion Colombo port project. His government has said it would re-examine Chinese projects signed by the previous Mahinda Rajapaksa regime, while on the strategic front Foreign Minister Mangala Samaraweera announced that Chinese nuclear submarines would no longer be welcome to dock in Sri Lankan harbours, even as Sri Lanka ups maritime cooperation with India. Sri Lanka also signed its first nuclear agreement with India, albeit one that envisages nuclear safety operations and not energy generation at present. All these moves, capped by Mr. Modi’s visit to Sri Lanka, sent out a clear message of India’s importance in Sri Lanka’s external relations. Having assuaged India’s concerns, Mr. Sirisena seems to be shifting his focus to China, and smoothing feathers ruffled by his government’s actions there. If his decision to suspend the Colombo port project was timed days before Mr. Modi’s visit to Colombo, he has chosen his meeting in Beijing to announce that the suspension is “temporary” and that the contract is expected to be reinstated shortly.

However, the more important message from President Sirisena’s meeting with President Xi Jinping is on China’s future plans in the region. At the Boao Forum, President Xi was unveiling the road map for China’s Maritime Silk Route and Silk Road initiatives, that envision massive infrastructure projects in India’s neighbourhood, along with help from the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), which he discussed with Mr. Sirisena. Mr. Xi has also suggested a possible ‘triangular’ dialogue among India, China and Sri Lanka. It would be a mistake to assume, as some in India do, that these talks could be viewed as a threat to India, or a zero-sum game. Instead, each of these is an acknowledgment that India is now the ‘elephant in the room’ when China engages one of its closest neighbours. Furthermore, India must welcome the offer of the trilateral that has been suggested by both Colombo and Beijing, while keeping its own bilateral relations with both on a steady course of progress. Such magnanimity may seem naive to many, but will go a long way in assuring Sri Lanka that it does not have to choose between its natural affinity and proximity to India, and China’s affluence and interest in its progress. As a rising power, India must also learn to be a secure one.
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so the Indian Govt. is actually going to encourage the entrance of Chinese spies into India (and the non spies) -- so what kind of information not available to us would make this decision a good one? Looks like India is going to join this "maritime silk road" with China. What's the long term plan here? How does allowing the chinese to set up shop in SL allow India to gain leverage on China?

This could be just India taking its "look east" policy to a new level. The west are just observers in this universe.
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http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... 31355.aspx
After his foray into the US, Australia, Europe and Indian Ocean countries, Prime Minister Narendra Modi has set his sights on the strategically-important East Asia region, dominated by China, which is also a geopolitical rival to India.

Modi will undertake a three-nation tour of China, Mongolia and South Korea from May 14 to 19. According to officials, the visit is aimed at giving a boost to the East Asia policy, aligning it with Make in India initiatives and bringing momentum to the country’s foreign policy in the strategically significant region.

In Beijing, where Modi is set to arrive to a rousing welcome, the focus will be on boundary issues. Both countries have an unsettled boundary of 3,488 km that often acts as an irritant to the ties.

The thrust will be on resolving the boundary question at an early date, rather than sticking to the familiar template of maintaining peace and tranquility along the border as the sole task, officials told HT.
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Tuvaluan wrote:so the Indian Govt. is actually going to encourage the entrance of Chinese spies into India (and the non spies) -- so what kind of information not available to us would make this decision a good one? Looks like India is going to join this "maritime silk road" with China. What's the long term plan here? How does allowing the chinese to set up shop in SL allow India to gain leverage on China?

This could be just India taking its "look east" policy to a new level. The west are just observers in this universe.
Tuvaluan, as usual, The Hindu editorial is pathetic as it gratuitously advises India to be 'magnanimous'. The proposed trilateral dialogue is a clever ruse to leave Sri Lanka from the equation and pitting China directly against India. Thus Sri Lanka can always claim that every Chinese incursion into Sri Lanka has the tacit approval of all stakeholders. The Sri Lankans are smart operators diplomatically but I am afraid that they are beginning to be tactically brilliant like our long lost brother on the western border. They are not only embracing China but also Pakistan as the latest NIA report shows about the ISI activities there.

On the question of MSR, I do not think India is going to be a party, unlike in AIIB.
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SSridhar Sir, I agree. The SL govt. under sirisena is in the same league of the pakis when it comes to being duplicitous enemies of India. SL govt. is India's enemy as far as India is concerned, and maybe people like Tuan have to be encouraged to break away from Sri Lanka. The sinhalas are enemies of India, and Sirisena's behavior in bringing Chinese nukes submarines to India's borders demonstrate that they are India's enemies in the trueest sense. If the Sri Lankans want to destroy India using the Chinese, they need to know that they will not be left standing in the end either.

On the other hand, if the Indian govt. is willing to overlook the fact that the Chinese have armed Pakistan, a mortal enemy of India, with nuclear weapons and increasing pakistan's ability to deliver them into Indian territory decade after decade, thereby demonstrating utter contempt for India and its people, I can only say that the Indian govt, PM Modi (or the worthless UPA govt.) and all of them in the MEA, deserve nothing but the utter contempt and disgust of the average Indian --- these people are certainly not looking out for the Interest of the average Indian, and are instead off on some trip of delusional grandeur imagining they are all being very chankian. Knowing India, I am certain they will all pay the price for their treachery down the line, if they intentionally allow the Chinese to destroy India using their proxies in India's neighbourhood.
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Silk Road projects could benefit India: CII official - PTI, Economic Times
The Silk Road projects announced by Chinese President Xi Jinping could benefit India's infrastructure development, a Confederation of Indian Industry board member said today.

"I am not aware of how it politically affects India but it makes sense from business and economic sense as it aimed to improve infrastructure and connectivity," said Shekhar Datta, Board member of the governing council of the Confederation of Indian Industry ( CII).

While India has its own initiatives to improve its connectivity in the neighbourhood, the $40 billion Silk Road fund could assist India's own infrastructure development, Dutta, who headed the Indian business delegation at Boao Forum for Asia inaugurated by Xi today, told PTI.

While the main Silk Road mainly connects China with Europe through Central Asia, it also incorporates Bangladesh, China, India and Myanmar (BCIM) and the Pakistan-China Economic Corridor through the Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (POK).

The Maritime Silk Route (MSR) is an initiative that aims to connect China's ports with ports in Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, India, Sri Lanka, Greece and Kenya.

India is taking part in the BCIM but non-committal about the MSR due to its strategic concerns over Chinese domination in the Indian Ocean.

Indian government now has allocated Rs 20,000 crores annually for the infrastructure development in the country and any additional funding could speed up the process.

Datta said it is good that India joined the China- sponsored Asia Infrastructure Investment Bank ( AIIB) which could help to draw its funds for infrastructure development.

He expressed surprise over lack of Indian official representation at Boao Forum for Asia attended among others by several heads of state.

Considering the level of participation by major countries at the Boao Forum, the Indian participation is not visible, Datta said adding that he would suggest a ministerial participation from next year.

The Forum's annual meeting was inaugurated by Chinese President Xi Jinping in Boao town, south China's Hainan Province today. The Forum is modelled on Summer Davos Forum.

Dutta said the forum attended by 13 heads of state and several prominent Chinese and international businessmen is a good platform for India to make its presence felt as it looks to draw more investments from China.

About the $20 billion Chinese investment in two industrial parks in India, he said it was progressing well.

They were expected to pick up speed after Prime Minister Narendra Modi's scheduled visit to China in May, Datta said.

The investments in the industrial parks in Gujarat and Maharastra were announced by Chinese President Xi Jinping during his visit India last year.
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^^^ At the same summit:
http://www.newindianexpress.com/world/C ... 735223.ece
Signalling China's readiness to sign friendship treaties with neighbouring countries to build trust, President Xi Jinping today unveiled an action plan to implement the grandiose 'Silk Road' infrastructure projects under a USD 40 billion special fund.

"Treaties of friendship have been signed by China with eight neighbouring countries. China stands ready to sign such a treaty with all its neighbours and to provide strong support for bilateral relations as well as prosperity and stability in the region," he said while addressing the China-sponsored Boao Forum for Asia annual conference held in the country's southern island of Hainan.

Referring to an old Chinese proverb - "Close neighbours are better than distant relatives" - Xi said the oceans of Asia should be turned into seas of peace and called for a common, comprehensive, sustainable and a cooperative security for Asia.

About 15 world leaders, including Nepal President Ram Baran Yadav and Sri Lankan President Maithripala Sirisena attended the meeting.

Microsoft founder Bill Gates, Tata Group Chairman Emeritus Ratan Tata along with 1,800 officials and business leaders from abroad also attended.

There is no official representation from India, though Supreme Court judge, Justice Jagdhish Singh Khehar attended the BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) Justices Forum being held on the sidelines of the Boao Forum.
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From http://blogs.cfr.org/asia/2015/03/27/fr ... h-27-2015/
Chinese police raid NGO offices. This week, Chinese police forces seized financial documents and computers from a high-profile nongovernmental organization (NGO). Members of the anti-discrimination group, Beijing Yirenping Center, said that twenty men in police uniforms burst into their offices before dawn on Tuesday morning. On Friday, Lu Jun, head of Yirenping, announced an ongoing investigation into the seizures, which he claims were illegal. Lu told reporters that the raid was likely in response to his organization’s campaign to pressure the Chinese government into releasing five detained women’s rights activists. Police administrators have not commented on or confirmed the raid. Since President Xi Jinping came to power, dozens of human rights activists have been apprehended as part of a broad crackdown on social activism and political dissent. The detention of the five activists on International Women’s Day captured the world’s attention, prompting calls from U.S. ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power, demanding their release.
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These GPS satellites are important in dealing with the China threat --- cannot depend on GPS sats of other countries.
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Russia, Australia and Holland yesterday said they would apply to join the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, while Beijing also appeared to open the door to Taiwanese membership, days before Tuesday's deadline for founding members.
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The essential conservation task before the world is to protect key habitats and wildlife populations long enough for generational attitudes to change in China and its neighbors.
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http://thediplomat.com/2015/03/mearshei ... ith-china/
IMO, India really needs to close the power-gap with China to keep Asia stable.
In the new edition of his 2001 book, The Tragedy of Great Power Politics, John J. Mearsheimer lives up to his reputation as a provocative political scientist. In a substantial new chapter on China, Mearsheimer extends his previous argument that the United States and China are about to engage in a “security competition” that is likely to end in war.

Mearsheimer believes that China’s “best way to survive under international anarchy” is to achieve regional hegemony in Asia “the way the United States dominates the Western hemisphere.” To accomplish this goal, China will first “seek to maximize the power gap with its neighbors, especially larger countries like India, Japan, and Russia” and thus gain military dominance in the region. Furthermore, Mearsheimer holds that China is likely to attempt to “push the United States out of the Asia-Pacific region,” in part by driving the U.S. Navy out of the ocean between China’s coast and the first island chain. A major reason Mearsheimer makes this dire prediction is that he believes China’s hegemony over the region would offer China great benefits, including the ability to favorably resolve ongoing disputes over territory and natural resources; to secure its interests in Africa and the Middle East and its control over critical sea lanes; and even the opportunity to undermine the United States’ own regional hegemony in the Western Hemisphere.

Mearsheimer believes that containment is the United States’ only way to prevent China from achieving regional hegemony. (He dismisses preventative war because China possesses a nuclear deterrent, nixes policies to inhibit China’s economic growth on the grounds that they would hurt the United States’ own economy, and notes that attempting to topple China-friendly regimes and fomenting rebellion within China is likely to fail.) Containment would entail forming “a balancing coalition” with China’s neighbors, which would require the United States’ active coordination and military backing. To many it seems that the United States has indeed begun to form such a coalition.

However, Mearsheimer does not expect that containment will prevent current tensions between the United States and China from eventually escalating into a direct conflict. One reason for his claim is that China’s weak neighbors have a strong incentive to provoke crises now, before China becomes even stronger. Mearsheimer points out this makes the United States potentially vulnerable to becoming embroiled in conflicts that its weak allies might well instigate with China, forcing the U.S. to engage in war to protect them. (The United States’ treatment of the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands as a part of Japan covered by the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security is one telling example.) Mearsheimer notes that European countries had no such perverse incentives when the United States contained the USSR during the Cold War.
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A_Gupta wrote: IMO, India really needs to close the power-gap with China to keep Asia stable.
This is true, but for that India needs to producing capable young people from Indian universities like China does, and on the same scale that China does. Their universities seem to produce far more competent people at all levels of learning. India will not be able to sustain the china challenge without fixing its education problems post haste. China managed to attract all chinese expatriates to move back to China and teach, and India has been unable to manage that due to its own paranoid policies and the fact that education is not completely under central control, and states do not comprehend the importance of this yet, or don't care to.
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SSridhar wrote: Tuvaluan, as usual, The Hindu editorial is pathetic as it gratuitously advises India to be 'magnanimous'. The proposed trilateral dialogue is a clever ruse to leave Sri Lanka from the equation and pitting China directly against India. Thus Sri Lanka can always claim that every Chinese incursion into Sri Lanka has the tacit approval of all stakeholders. The Sri Lankans are smart operators diplomatically but I am afraid that they are beginning to be tactically brilliant like our long lost brother on the western border. They are not only embracing China but also Pakistan as the latest NIA report shows about the ISI activities there.

On the question of MSR, I do not think India is going to be a party, unlike in AIIB.
The Hindu editorial is not just a pathetic or lousy editorial.. It is actually restating official Chinese advice to India. Very shameful given how The Hindu editorials are followed in the neighborhood (especially in Sri Lanka). One possibility is that The Hindu editorial board (Ram & co) with their academic and idealogical affinity and familiarity to China often consume Chinese kool-aid and prescribe it to India as they don't think from Indian PoV and do not even realize that they think from a Chinese PoV. Another more worrisome possibility is that China or its intelligence agencies have some leverage over The Hindu or some of its influential editors / proprietors. Our intelligence agencies should really investigate this possibility and put an end to it as soon as possible.

In matters of China and Sri Lanka I have learnt to take The Hindu editorials with a big pinch of salt in the best case and as contrary indicators in the worst case.
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Russia, Australia, Netherlands to join AIIB - Atul Aneja, The Hindu
A late surge among top European countries, including Germany, France, Britain, and now Russia along with Australia to join the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), has imparted a new sense of realism to Beijing’s Silk Road plans.

If implemented, they are likely to shift the global balance of economic power towards Eurasia.

On Saturday, Russia, Australia and the Netherlands, announced its decision to join the China-led AIIB. The decision of key European powers along with South Korea to join the bank, overriding strong objections from the United States, has split the Atlantic Alliance on this issue.

“I would like to inform you about the decision to participate in the AIIB,” which was made by Russian President Vladimir Putin, said Russian Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov during the annual meeting of the Boao Forum for Asia (BFA) — China’s Davos-style meeting of top decision makers that takes place in Hainan island, in the country’s south.

Mr. Shuvalov said that Moscow welcomes China’s Silk Road Economic Belt initiative and is happy about stepping up cooperation.

The Russian Minister was referring to China’s “One belt One road” initiative, which envisages connecting the Pacific coast with Europe by an extensive transport, cyber and energy network along the Eurasian corridor. Inter-linked with the land route, China wants to establish the 21st century Maritime Silk Road (MSR) , which would connect China with a string of ports, from where would radiate economic corridors, in Southeast Asia, South Asia, West Asia and Africa. The MSR would terminate in Europe.

In his inaugural address at the BFA, Chinese President Xi Jinping advocated in reference to the AIIB, the “creation of a regional hub for financial cooperation,” apart from strengthening “pragmatic cooperation in monetary stability, investment, financing, credit rating and other fields”. He also spoke about the emergence of a multi-polar world.

The AIIB’s apparent success has now brought into sharper focus China’s ‘One belt One Road’ initiative which requires massive investment, including finance from the $40 billion Silk Road fund, which the Chinese have separately established.

In order to ensure that there are no funding shortfalls, an action plan released on Saturday by the Chinese government has asked countries along the Belt and Road to ensure that currency swap arrangements for payments are encouraged, and a bond market in Asia is fully developed.

Analysts point out that the ‘One Belt One Road’ initiative, backed by a solid financial institutional network, once implemented, is expected to accelerate the shift of geo-economic power away from the United States, towards Eurasia. More than 4.4 billion people, or 63 per cent of the global population countries, are expected to benefit from China’s game-changing plans.
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Chinese base in Indian Ocean threat to peace: Ajit Kumar Doval - Dipanjan Roy Chowdhury, Economic Times
Pointing out that China's rise will impact the globe and the region including India, National Security Adviser Ajit Kumar Doval has suggested that the change in the world order should be internationally approved and indicated that building military bases by China in the Indian Ocean Region (IOR) will be detrimental to peace in the area.

"Global expansion of China is a reality, which is manifesting itself as a powerful economy, having powerful military and rising defence budget. Emergence of China in a dramatic fashion is a reality. It is true that things will be affected globally with whatever China does. The region will be affected. India will also be impacted. We just feel that the change in the order should be internationally approved," noted Doval while addressing a threeday international conference - 'The Growth Net'.

This was first and free frank remarks from Doval, since he took over as NSA last year, on the phenomenal rise of China and the alarm bells that it has sent ringing in various parts of the world particularly in the region neighbouring India. Doval just completed 18th round of Special Representative level boundary talks with China here this Monday - the first such talks under the Modi government.

Replying to a question on Chinese maritime initiatives primarily Maritime Silk Route strategy in the IOR, Doval hoped that building up military bases do not lead to rivalry in the region. "In 1971 IOR was declared as a zone of peace at the UN. India has interests in keeping IOR peaceful. We do hope that there is freedom of navigation in the maritime lanes," suggested Doval indicating India's reservations on the China's ambitions in the region considered as India's extended neighbourhood.
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Can PM Modi manage a breakthrough on the Sino-Indian border issue when he travels to China in May? - Sreeram Chulia, Economic Times
The latest round of talks on March 23-24 between special representatives of China and India on the nagging border dispute has generated an air of expectation. With both sides emphasising the goal of an "early resolution", there is a buzz about achieving a "breakthrough" by May, when prime minister Narendra Modi will travel to China.

Having completed 18 rounds of tortuous negotiations since 2003, the Sino-Indian border issue is begging for a consummation that has been frustratingly elusive. If one counts previous iterations of the current process, it goes back as far as 1981, when the two Asian neighbours began structured dialogue on the contested 4,057-km-long border. Progress has been incremental, marked by backsliding from China which reopens fronts that India considers to be done and dusted. It is a clash of national egos, will and ingenuity, with neither party willing to acquiesce on its core claims.

Yet, the fact that the Asian giants keep convening round after round of protracted talks, while averting actual military hostilities between troops tensely facing each other in the high Himalayas, conveys that the exercise is not entirely futile. Diplomacy helps avoid bloodshed, although the "confidence" from the confidence-building measures (CBMs) often evaporates due to Chinese slipperiness.

A New Beginning

However, this time could be different from the past. Modi wants "concrete outcomes" from his forthcoming visit to China. True to his foreign policy mission as a remover of obstacles, he has prioritised settling the Sino-Indian border as his next major diplomatic target after ironing out wrinkles in the US-India civilian nuclear agreement. China's news channel CCTV has also sounded upbeat that some sort of resolution is on the anvil and its contours could be announced when Modi is in China.

Notwithstanding the complexity of the Sino-Indian negotiation framework, the solution is a simple territorial swap. China will have to drop its claim across the eastern sector of the Line of Actual Control (LAC) over 90,000 square km of Arunachal Pradesh, and India in turn will disavow any claim across the western sector on the 30,000 square km of Aksai Chin, which was fully occupied by China after the 1962 war. In other words, the LAC has to be converted into a legally recognised international border with pledges by both sides to respect its sanctity. There is no other imaginable formula for peace.

Why would China, whose track record of treachery and doublespeak evokes mistrust in India, be possibly ready to compromise on its maximalist demands that have blocked genuine quid pro quo for so long?

Firstly, China always measures its relative power and leverage vis-a-vis other countries and treats them accordingly. As India is projected to overtake China in GDP growth from this year onward, the era of China bargaining from a position of superiority with us is in its twilight.

Secondly, Beijing knows that Modi is pursuing defence modernisation and building new motorable roads and infrastructure along both the western and eastern sectors of the LAC. Once the 40,000-strong Mountain Strike Corps of the Indian Army, costing $10 billion, is deployed along the LAC, a new ground reality will emerge of India having conventional deterrence capability to conduct counter-offensives into Chinese-occupied Tibet or Aksai Chin. The offensive advantage that China has enjoyed and exploited through repetitive incursions across the LAC will gradually diminish. China should be eager to draw up a final border before India obtains military parity under Modi's watch.
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^^ I hope Modi doesn't. Will be bass ackwards. Wait a bit, defend, improve and such. And then reclaim everything by and by... softly.
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http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015- ... 110798.htm
BEIJING, March 30 (Xinhua) -- China has welcomed the application of Egypt to join the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) on Monday, one day before the deadline to join the bank as a founding member.

Egypt will become a founding member on April 14, should all existing members approve, according to a statement on the Finance Ministry's website.

The total number of applicants awaiting approval is now 13.
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China releases details of Silk Road plans - Atul Aneja, The Hindu
China has provided details about its proposed Silk Road initiatives, which would impact 4.4 billion people and, within a decade, could generate trade above 2.5 trillion dollars.

A vision document jointly prepared by a composite team from the Ministries of Commerce, Foreign Affairs and the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) — a top organisation that steers the Chinese economy — has with precision revealed the geographic parameters of China’s “One belt One Road” initiative.

The “belt and road” have two components — the Silk Road Economic Belt (SREB) that would be established along the Eurasian land corridor from the Pacific coast to the Baltic Sea, and the 21st century Maritime Silk Road (MSR).

Analysts say that the “belt and road” initiative, backed by an extensive China-led funding infrastructure, could shift the centre of geo-economic power towards Eurasia, and undermine the “Asia Pivot” of the United States and its allies.

Chinese President Xi Jinping is hopeful that the mega-trade volumes among the Silk Road economies would touch $ 2.5 trillion over the next 10 years.

The “belt and road” run through the continents of Asia, Europe and Africa, connecting the vibrant East Asia economic circle at one end and developed European economic circle at the other, says the government report.

Specifically, the SREB focuses on bringing together China, Central Asia, Russia and Europe (the Baltic); linking China with the Persian Gulf and the Mediterranean Sea through Central Asia and West Asia; and connecting China with Southeast Asia, South Asia and the Indian Ocean.
The idea is to compltely undermine all other political influences in these regions and replace them with overwhelming Chinese influence
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No deal to restart Colombo project - AFP
Sri Lanka has yet to resolve a dispute with China over a $1.4 billion development in Colombo despite a state visit to Beijing last week, a Minister said on Monday.

Deputy Foreign Minister Ajith Perera said the President had not discussed the project with his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping. “We have given them [Chinese companies] time to produce the environmental approvals, but they have not done that yet,” the Minister told reporters in Colombo.
This is just a farce and it will be only a matter of time before Colombo accedes to the project. Sirisena & Ranil Wickramasinghe said during election campaign that they would shut down the $1.4 billion Chinese project to build a port city in reclaimed land in Colombo. Now, they say the 'dispute is yet to be resolved and they are waiting for documents'. So, some dilution of the tough stance is already visible.

In any case, the Hambanatota port project by the Chinese is progressing well, with one phase complted and the second phase due to complete this year. There are two more phases in the pipeline too.
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China planning to set up Consulate General in Chennai - The Hindu
A substantial Chinese participation is expected at the forthcoming Global Investor Meet to be held in Chennai in May this year. Not just that, China has also proposed to establish a Consulate General in Chennai soon.

Mr.Le Yucheng, Ambassador of the People’s Republic of China to India, who met Chief Minister O Paneerselvam here, highlighted the possibilities of investment in the renewable energy sector, particularly solar energy. He said his embassy was keen on further strengthening the relations between state-level leaders in India and provincial leaders in China and invited the Tamil Nadu Chief Minister to visit China.

Currently, there are about 100 Chinese firms operating in India. Of this only, 6 are in Tamil Nadu. Mr. Paneerselvam said there was enormous potential for cooperation between Tamil Nadu and China. “Some of the promising areas include electronic hardware, semiconductor, textiles, heavy engineering, automobiles and parts, Information technology, and above all infrastructure,” he said.

Mr. Paneerselvam also hoped that the new Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank would partner with Tamil Nadu in establishing Tamil Nadu Infrastructure Fund Management Company (TNIFMC).

“ TNIFMC will float Infrastructure Financing Vehicles as permitted by the Securities and Exchange Board of India. Tamil Nadu hopes to attract investment from Chinese Banks and Funds into IFVs promoted by TNIFMC,” he said.

China is also collaborating on developing the high speed rail link between Delhi and Chennai and on increasing the speed on the Chennai-Mysore rail line.
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Japan could join China-led Asian bank by June - Atul Aneja, The Hindu
Bowing to pressure from its powerful business groups, Japan could join the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) in the next few months, deserting the United States — Tokyo’s foremost post-war ally, says a media report.

The Financial Times, quoting Japan’s ambassador to China, Masato Kitera is reporting that Tokyo would sign up to the AIIB by June, missing the March 31 deadline for applying as a founder member of the lender. “The business community woke up late, but now they have mounted a big campaign for the AIIB which appears to be very effective,” Mr. Kitera was quoted as saying.

But in Tokyo, the FT report evoked an ambivalent response. Japan’s Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga said on Tuesday that ambassador had not made any such comment and Japan's position on the AIIB was unchanged. “I have been informed that it is not true that Ambassador Kitera made such remarks forecasting (Japan's) participation,” Mr. Suga told a news conference. But he added that, “I think it's impossible for Japan to take part today,” not ruling out a reversal of position later.

Reuters quoted an unnamed Japanese government source as saying, “We have not ruled out the possibility of either joining or staying out.” In Beijing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson, Hua Chunying said on Tuesday that Japan was welcome to join the bank, but Tokyo would have to take the call. “As for whether or not Japan is willing to participate, we have previously said that we welcome all countries to proactively participate,” she observed. She added China would respect the wishes of any country “whether or not they join or when they decide to join.”

According to FT, a group of Mitsubishi Group executives based in China have offered support during their meeting this month with Jin Liqun, who has been designated to run the infrastructure bank. The Japanese find Mr. Jin, a familiar face, because of his position as a senior official at the U.S. and Japan backed Asian Development Bank (ADB). The Japanese industrial houses see participation as beneficial, as the AIIB will be at the heart of building infrastructure in the region, offering substantial business opportunities. Besides, collaboration with the Chinese could help mend frayed ties between Beijing and Tokyo, highlighted by a dispute on a group of islands in the East China Sea.

Analysts say that over time, the U.S. could change its position towards the new bank. However, on Monday, visiting U.S. Treasury Secretary, Jack Lew said in Beijing that Washington still had its concerns about the standards that the AIIB would maintain. “We very much welcome China’s increased participation in infrastructure investment, and the concerns we've raised about the needs for standards continue,” Mr. Lew said. He added: “The initial decisions of what kinds of projects are invested in will obviously be a very important signal as to how they’ll proceed.”
In this scenario, China would lose its importance and it will be IMF, ADB etc in a new avtaar ! Is this a Trojan Horse approach?
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Will depending on the voting rights but I expect China to have a dominant but not a decisive role. IIRC, the China has done away with the veto it earlier had for itself. I haven't followed or researched much so may be wrong.
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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... mcase.html
A powerful American naval officer has fired a warning at China for rapidly building "a Great Wall" of artificial islands across hotly-contested waters.

Admiral Harry Harris, soon to take charge of Pacific Command, told a dinner at the Australian War Memorial on Tuesday night that the string of new islands posed a serious threat to stability in the South China Sea.

He said the artificial expanse was "roughly the size of Canberra's Black Mountain Nature Reserve" and that they stretched across some of the world's busiest sea lanes.

Those sea lanes carry around 60 per cent of Australian trade, posing a major strategic conundrum for the Abbott government.
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The comments by Admiral Harris are by far the most strident and colourful on the subject by a senior American leader.

They show the US pushing back against China's assertive president, Xi Jinping, who had been seen to be "winning" a contest for maritime dominance at the expense of its neighbours.

His speech also poses a major test for Australia as it endeavours to engage in good relations with its major trading partner, China, while "hedging" against security risks by drawing closer to the US and other partners in the region.

One of the new islands in question is a runway and port-shaped structure extended more than 3km, over previously submerged coral reef, which analysts say could mark a tipping point in China's ability to project air power thousands of kilometres from its coastal waters.

"China is creating a great wall of sand with dredges and bulldozers over the course of months," said Admiral Harris, who is currently commander of the US Pacific Fleet.

"When one looks at China's pattern of provocative actions towards smaller claimant states, the lack of clarity on its sweeping nine-dash line claim that is inconsistent with international law, and the deep asymmetry between China's capabilities and those of its smaller neighbours – well, it's no surprise that the scope and pace of building man-made islands raises serious questions about Chinese intentions," he said.
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‘Building ties for the 21st century’ - The Hindu
On the eve of the 65th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations between China and India on April 1, 1950, the Chinese Ambassador to India, Le Yucheng, in written answers provided to a set of questions posed by Srinivasan Ramani, emphasised the need for a renewal of China-India ties in tune with the realities of the 21st century. Excerpts follow. Later, in an interaction in Chennai, the Ambassador identified several areas, which he suggested present new avenues for cooperation between India and China. These include infrastructure development and regional security apart from already expanding ties.

Q: At what stage are the two countries after the 18th round of talks on boundary negotiations held recently? Can we expect a substantive breakthrough since the start of fresh talks?

On March 23, 2015, the 18th Meeting of the Special Representatives on the China-India boundary question was held in New Delhi. Yang Jiechi, State Councilor and Special Representative on the Chinese side, and Ajit Doval, National Security Advisor and the Special Representative on the Indian side, exchanged in-depth views on the boundary question and had strategic communications on bilateral relations and international and regional issues of common concern. This is the first boundary question talk since the new Indian government took office, and after the appointment of the new Indian Special Representative. The meeting was in a friendly and candid atmosphere.

The two sides reviewed the positive progress achieved at the previous Special Representatives Meetings over the past years, and stressed the progress of the framework negotiation along the right track on the basis of the realised results and consensus, while taking the big picture of bilateral relations and the long-term interests of the two peoples into consideration. Both sides reaffirmed the need to properly manage and control conflicts and join efforts to maintain peace and tranquility in the boundary area before the boundary question is finally settled.

As Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said in the press conference held by the Third Session of the Twelfth National People’s Congress recently, the China-India boundary question is a legacy of history. At the moment, the boundary negotiation is in the process of building up small positive developments. It is like climbing a mountain. The going is tough and that is only because we are on the way up. This is all the more reason that we should do more to strengthen China-India cooperation, so that we can facilitate the settlement of the boundary question.

Q:The Chinese government has announced the Maritime Silk Route and Silk Road initiatives (also called ‘Belt and Road’) recently. Can you explain these initiatives and how they pertain to China-India relations?

The ‘Belt and Road’ initiatives put forward by China aims at achieving development and prosperity for the various countries along the ‘Silk Road Economic Belt’ and the ‘21st Century Maritime Silk Road’ by linking the past with the present, landmass with seas, and development strategies of various countries. The Vision and Action plans of the initiative have just been issued by the Chinese government.

The initiative will forge four billion people from more than 60 countries in Asia, Europe and Africa into a community of common destiny and interests. If I may use a musical metaphor, it is not China’s solo, but a symphony performed by all these countries. The ‘Belt and Road’ initiatives will observe the principles of discussing, building and sharing together, through policy coordination, road connectivity, unimpeded trade, monetary circulation, and mutual understanding. These initiatives have been put forward to promote economic cooperation, and are not driven by geopolitics, or an attempt to seek spheres of influence.

Since the launch of these initiatives, significant headway has been made in building new mechanisms and laying down new policy frameworks. More than 50 countries along the ‘Belt and Road’ have expressed support; China has either already signed or is in the process of signing agreements with several countries. A set of programmes involving building infrastructure, setting up of industries and boosting people-to-people contacts have already been started. The first Central Asia International Freight Train from Lianyungang (Jiangsu Province), China to Almaty, Kazakhstan, began operation on February 25. The construction of Line D of the China-Central Asia natural gas pipeline project has already begun. The eastern route of the China-Russia natural gas pipeline project will be constructed very soon and the agreement on the western route will be signed shortly. All the above projects mark the early harvest of the initiatives. The founding of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank has not only been welcomed by the Asian countries, but developed countries, including France, Germany, Britain, Canada have also expressed willingness to join it. The bank currently has 41 prospective founding member countries.

India enjoys a unique geographical location, was a significant country along the ancient silk roads and spice route, and is situated at the crossing point of the contemporary ‘Belt and Road’. India is China’s natural and significant partner in promoting the ‘Belt and Road’ initiatives. Last year, India became one of the first prospective founding members of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank and hosted its second chief negotiators’ meeting in Mumbai in late January this year. In the second half of this year, India will also host the third meeting of BCIM Economic Corridor Joint Working Group. All these reflect the cooperative attitude of India to the ‘Belt and Road’ initiatives. China is willing to strengthen communication and coordination with India, to link the ‘Belt and Road’ initiatives with India’s ‘Spice Route’ and ‘Mausam’ projects, and bring tangible benefits to the peoples in our two countries and throughout the region.

Q:There is a trade imbalance between India and China, with India’s trade deficit being around $37.8 billion in 2014. At the same time, bilateral trade in 2014 topped $70.6 billion. How do you think the imbalance can be corrected?

The Chinese side does not like trade surplus and prefers balanced trade. China takes the Indian concern of trade imbalance very seriously. Although the main reason for our trade imbalance lies in objective factors such as the differences in industrial structures of our two countries, we are willing to provide opportunities to increase India’s exports to China.

Since 2008, the Ministry of Commerce of China has sent six trade delegations to boost imports from India. China warmly welcomes the Indian side to expand trade through various trading platforms, such as China-South Asia Expo and China Import and Export Fair (Canton Fair), and the Import Promotion Centres recently built in Shanghai, Tianjin and other cities. In order to increase the popularity of Indian products, China also welcomes Indian Chambers of Commerce to conduct promotion events in China. Besides, China hopes that India would ease restrictions on exporting its competitive products such as iron ore, etc. to China, reduce tariffs, and encourage Indian companies to export more agricultural products. To encourage Chinese enterprises to invest in India and participate in the ‘Make in India’ campaign, the key is to reduce restrictions and streamline procedures on business visas. More Chinese businessmen will bring more investment, which will help improve trade balance.

Q:There is a sense among Indian strategic thinkers and in the media that China’s cooperation with other South Asian countries is part of a policy of encirclement. How would you answer these concerns?

China adheres to peaceful development. China does not have any tradition of expansion, or any intention to expand :rotfl: . India suffered invasion and occupation by other major powers in history, while China as the largest neighbour always kept friendly relations with India, kept up communication and exchange between civilisations, and has never conspired against India or other neighbouring countries.

The cooperation between China and other South Asian countries is based on the foundation of common development. South Asian countries are willing to cooperate with China, and ride the Chinese express train of rapid development. China is also willing to share development opportunities with South Asian countries. Cooperation between China and South Asian countries is open, transparent, and beneficial to all the concerned countries. There are no ulterior motives and there is no need for India to worry. China is also willing to work with India to conduct trilateral cooperation and multilateral cooperation in the region, to achieve win-win cooperation and common development.T
The 'Belt and Road' is an audacious attempt at modern-day colonization.
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I am posting this here for obvious reasons.

PM Modi's France visit: India to discuss sharing of coastal surveillance radars in the Indian Ocean - Manu Pubby, ET
India and France are expected to firm up discussions on sharing of radars in the Indian Ocean as part of the strategic talks during PM Narendra Modi's visit to Paris next week.

While India is setting up a grid of coastal surveillance radars in the Indian Ocean Region (IOR) that will enable it to monitor, among other things, the increasing Chinese presence in the area, France has expressed interest in sharing data from surveillance systems on its Indian Ocean territories, it is learnt.

As part of bilateral discussions during the PM's visit, the modalities of sharing maritime domain awareness data from at least three French monitoring sites in the Indian Ocean is set to be on the agenda. French territories in the region include the Reunion Islands and Mayotte, besides military bases in UAE and Djibouti.

It is learnt that the Indian Navy is keen on the French proposal and has recommended that it be added to an ambitious plan to set up a 24-nation radar grid in IOR to monitor all traffic - civilian and military. The 24 nation plan - which is currently pending a formal clearance from the Cabinet Committee on Security - looks at integrating radars from most littorals of the region with the Indian coastal radar chain.

As part of the plan, India could also lend financial aid to littoral nations for setting up radars. In the future, surveillance data from other military sites, including the American base at Diego Garcia, could be integrated.

As reported by ET, a Rs 600-crore project to set up a Coastal Surveillance Radar System in the Indian Ocean is underway as part of New Delhi's plans to increase maritime domain awareness in the wake of the 26/11 Mumbai attack.

While coastal surveillance radars have been set up in Sri Lanka (6), Mauritius (8) and Seychelles (1), ten radars that have to come up in Maldives have hit a block due to political uncertainty that led to the cancellation of Modi's visit to Male last month.

The moves come even as China has turned more active in IOR and has been attempting to expand its footprints in India's extended neighbourhood as part of the grand Maritime Silk Route launched last year, according to experts. Besides Beijing wants to safeguard the sea lanes of communication through which its trade passes amid growing incidents of piracy along Africa's eastern coast. Seychelles has been viewed by China as a possible replenishment port for navy ships taking part in anti-piracy operations in the region.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/31/opini ... .html?_r=0

Brahma Chellaney is the best when it comes to water and its assorted issues.

More if anyone has more interest: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jplehmann/2 ... of-face/2/
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Analysis of China-Russia energy deal:
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/18270 ... -deal.html
As a result of this economic rapprochement, Russia and China signed two mega energy agreements in last year that will help Russia to diversify its export destinations. The first was a $400bn mega deal, the biggest single trade agreement in history, which was signed between the China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC), China’s largest energy company, and Russian energy giant Gazprom in May, 2014. According to the agreement, Russia will provide 38 bcm of gas to China for 30 years starting in 2018. The deal includes the construction of a pipeline called “Power of Siberia” that will transfer gas from eastern Siberia to northern China, Beijing-Tianjin-Hebei metropolitan area, and the Yangtze River Delta in the east.
According to the second agreement that was signed in November, Russia will provide an additional 30 bcm of gas to China over 30 years from western Siberia by way of the Altai pipeline, negotiations for which began in 2006 but halted in 2013 due to the priority given to the “Power of Siberia.”
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https://www.thedollarbusiness.com/exten ... operation/
In a move towards enhancing tourism cooperation with China, the Government of India expressed its willingness to extend the Tourist Visa on Arrival (TVoA) scheme to China. The statement to this effect was made by Mahesh Sharma, Union Minister of Tourism, Government of India, on Wednesday.

A six-member Chinese delegation led by Wang Zuoan, Minister of Religious Affairs of China, was in New Delhi on Wednesday, where they discussed the exchange of culture, among other issues, for enhanced cooperation with India.

Welcoming the delegation, the Indian Minister said that India is keen to further its relation with China and is exploring the possibility of extending the TVoA scheme to China, in this background.

Responding to the Indian Minister, the Chinese Minister said the main focus of the delegation’s visit to India is to take the cooperation between India and China ahead, mainly in areas of Buddhist studies and cultural exchange. He further informed about the Buddhist Forum to promote research and Buddhist studies, to be held in China in October.

In the meeting, both the sides also agreed to jointly hold the exhibition on Xuang Zang (Hsuan Tsang) in India and China. India, on its side, also proposed to host virtual museums on Indian culture on Chinese platforms.
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China hands over 8 submarines to pakistan -- a.k.a. pakistan "buys" chinese submarines.

https://thediplomat.com/2015/04/confirm ... nese-subs/

Clearly, the correct response here is to hand free tourist visas to the citizens of a country that is providing nukes and nuke capable submarines to India's worst enemies.
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China says Iran deal good for Sino-US relations - ToI
This week's framework nuclear deal with Iran was also good for boosting relations between China and the United States, Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi said in a call with US secretary of state John Kerry.

The agreement can be attributed to all sides seizing a historic opportunity through concerted efforts, Wang told Kerry, China's foreign ministry said in a statement released late on Friday.

"China and the United States, both taking on major responsibilities in safeguarding the international nuclear non-proliferation system, maintained good contact with each other during the negotiations, while instilling positive energy into bilateral relations," the statement cited Wang as saying.

"In a bid to finalize a comprehensive deal as scheduled, China will maintain close coordination with all parties concerned, including the United States, and continue to play a constructive role during the process," Wang added.

While China and the United States are at loggerheads over everything from cybersecurity to the value of China's yuan currency, the world's two largest economies also cooperate closely on certain international issues, including the Iranian and North Korean nuclear disputes.

The Chinese statement cited Kerry as saying that the United States appreciates China's important and constructive role in the latest Iran nuclear talks.

The tentative agreement, struck on Thursday after eight days of talks between Iran and six world powers in Lausanne, Switzerland, clears the way for a settlement to allay Western fears that Iran could build an atomic bomb, with economic sanctions on Tehran being lifted in return.

It marks the most significant step towards rapprochement between Washington and Tehran since the 1979 Iranian revolution, and could potentially end decades of international isolation, with far-reaching political consequences in the Middle East.

China and Iran have close diplomatic, economic, trade and energy ties.

China's crude oil imports from Iran jumped by nearly 30 percent last year to their highest average level since 2011, as Iran's largest oil client boosted shipments after an interim deal eased sanctions on Tehran.
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:shock: So US thinks China is guarding the International non proliferation system? Are John Kerry and the rest of morons in the US state dept. the dumbest bunch to walk this earth in recent times? Or is it that they want India out of Iran and hence out of Afghanisthan and creating an active role for China instead? All of this seems like some elaborate drama by EU/US to increase china's power and position in Asia to everyone else's detriment.
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^^^
I have said this before: India has nothing to gain by US mending fences with Iran. the only possible gain could be that now Israel will be more motivated and incentivized to cooperate with us on many issues since their perceived trust of US has taken a beating.

Russia too will be in a similar boat, I think. I don't think they really wanted this deal to go through.
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Russia too will be in a similar boat, I think. I don't think they really wanted this deal to go through.
Russia supports the deal as long as the US cannot renege on it at any point down the line and bring back sanctions on Iran -- different countries are batting for different outcomes in the P5+1 which is expected. This could just be another case of this so-called "off shore balancing", to prop up Iran as a challenge to KSA and Israel, or maybe just KSA. What can possibly go wrong? we can all see how brilliant american foreign policy has been for the past 40 years, no reason why they can't fling their poop on rotating devices all around the world and give it a nice name like "offshore balancing"....like Brit/European colonialist mofos never quite left from WWI times.
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^^^
think further.

Russia gains nothing from US mending fences with Iran. Russia also couldn't give a s*** about the effect of sanctions on Iran. if US reneges on the deal and re-imposes sanctions, that merely strengthens the Russian stance worldwide that US is a treacherous ally at best. that will be a godsend to Russia.

IMVHO, Iran is a "challenger" in the making against India. I think there is sufficient "preparation" within US establishment now for a future unraveling of Pakistan. They realize that Indian subcontinent is in unstable state due to Pak and that they cannot prop up Pakis forever. They are getting ready to sacrifice Paki pawns.

Iran is their next bet to ensure that India is checkmated in the IOR and also in CAR. they are planning for decades ahead.
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