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^^It has also been the place where Naxals and violent Maoists go to get inspiration, advice, guidance and money.
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TimesNow reports that South China Sea figured in the talks. I don't know how they found it or they are simply guessing.
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Yunnan also has heavy activity from World Vision types working behind the scenes.
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Myanmar was planning a ceasefire & peace deal on their union day. However, they have also got into trouble as the KIA abducted a minister [transport min, IIRC] and the army fired at the KIA. Besides, a few civvies were also attacked recently in KIA controlled territory. So, doesn't look like the peace deal will go through. Besides, the elections is there too.

What Atul Aneja is mentioning could likely happen in a some way.

Interesting that when Hillary was SoS she spent a lot of dip effort on Myanmar... and it looks like very little has been done on that. the region hasn't improved at all.
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SSridhar wrote:TimesNow reports that South China Sea figured in the talks. I don't know how they found it or they are simply guessing.
Modi talked about stability in Asia Pacific and Indian Ocean in his address.
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Joint declaration on South China Sea may irk Bejing - Sachin Parashar, ToI
Four months after mentioning the situation in South China Sea in a joint statement, India and the US on Sunday released a Joint Strategic Vision for the Asia-Pacific and Indian Ocean regions in a move unlikely to go unnoticed in Beijing.

After their first bilateral meeting last year in September, Barack Obama and Narendra Modi issued a joint statement expressing concern about "rising tensions over maritime territorial disputes" in that region.

The joint strategic vision reaffirmed the same, saying regional prosperity depended on security.

"We affirm the importance of safeguarding maritime security and ensuring freedom of navigation and overflight throughout the region, especially in the South China Sea," it said.

The two countries welcomed the convening of the sixth round of the India-US-Japan trilateral discussions on 20 December 2014 to deepen regional engagement and to discuss ways to implement projects on the ground.

"We call on all parties to avoid the threat or use of force and pursue resolution of territorial and maritime disputes through all peaceful means, in accordance with universally recognized principles of international law, including the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea," it added.

The joint statement also said India's Act-East Policy and the US' rebalance to Asia provided opportunities for India, the US, and other Asia-Pacific countries to work closely to strengthen regional ties. Sources said that change of government in Sri Lanka, widely seen as not to China's liking, was one of the factors for the new strategic vision.
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It should be renamed Indo-Japan sea. China take over Gwadar , India must sent Nuke Sub to dock at Okinawa/ Osaka.
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Jhujar wrote:It should be renamed Indo-Japan sea. China take over Gwadar , India must sent Nuke Sub to dock at Okinawa/ Osaka.
Jhujar, when Arihant starts its patrol activities, we will send it to that sea. We will probably dock at Vietnam or even Philippines, given Japan's sensitivity. Let us bide our time till then. In fact, I prefer the Arihant dock at Hai Phong overlooking PLAN's Sanya base. The PLAN SSN/SSBNs are not going to dock at Colombo anymore.

On the question of Indo-Japan Sea, see discussions here three pages back, starting from RajeshA's post.
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SS ji, any moves by India recently towards Philippines?
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deejay, I understand that some discussions on naval cooperation has been in the works. Not sure, though.

That reminds me that in c. 2010, Ms. Clinton referred to SCS as West Philippines Sea while being in the Philippines after the annual ARF meeting.
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 021006.cms

China ready to take partnership with India to higher level: Xi Jinping
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China also says that India has always followed an independent foreign policy and nobody can force her to toe a particular line. An earlier comment in Global Times, discussed in the previous page, was also along similar lines, praising India, a far cry from the usual disparaging words reserved for India.
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Caution needs to be exercised on India's NSG inclusion: China - PTI, ToI
China on Monday extended conditional support for India's Nuclear Suppliers Group membership bid but said "prudence and caution" needs to be exercised on the issue, a day after US President Barack Obama backed India's inclusion into the elite 48-member body.

"We believe that such (an) inclusion should be conducive to the integrity and effectiveness of the regime and decision should be made on consensus. We notice India's commitment to relevant issues," Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying said at a media briefing.

"We support the group to include new members and we support India to take further measures to meet the requirements for the inclusion in the group," she said.

In an effort to strengthen global non-proliferation and export control regimes, India and the US on Sunday committed to continue to work towards India's phased entry into the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG), the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR), the Wassenaar Arrangement and the Australia Group.
If a reckless nuclear & missile proliferator like China can be in NSG, then so can be India.
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In R-Day message, China tells India don't fall into ‘trap’ laid by U.S. - Atul Aneja, The Hindu
China has offered to lift its strategic partnership with India to a “higher level,” and prompted New Delhi to avoid a “zero-sum trap” that was being set up by Washington and its allies.

In a message, on the occasion of 66th Republic Day, to President Pranab Mukherjee, his Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping expressed China’s willingness “to make concerted efforts with India to lift their strategic cooperative partnership oriented to peace and prosperity to a higher level”.

The felicitations coincided with the New Delhi visit of U.S. President Barack Obama.

An article on Monday that appeared in the Global Times and People’s Daily, cautioned India, not to fall into the “trap” that was being laid, to pit New Delhi against Beijing, by Washington, as part of its “pivot to Asia” doctrine.

The commentary noted that "the second visit by a sitting U.S. President to India, the first time on record, has undoubtedly drawn wide attention from the international community”.

It added that many Western media reports “have pointed out that the U.S., regardless of historical complications, is putting more efforts into soliciting India to act as a partner, even an ally, to support Washington's "pivot to Asia" strategy, which is mainly devised to counter China's rise.

In a further elaboration, the daily pointed to the West’s “ulterior motives’’ to frame the "Chinese dragon" and the "Indian elephant" as natural rivals. “The West is egging India on to be fully prepared for "threats" posed by its large neighbour.

Considering the fact that both sides still have territorial disputes and will probably have wider engagement at many levels, this so-called rivalry between India and China will not stop making headlines in Western media.”

However, it cautioned India that it was facing a carefully positioned “trap”. “Although craftily set, it will be revealed eventually.”

The daily advised both countries to put aside their “debates over specific issues,” and ensure that “their relations cannot take a life-or-death struggle as a foothold.”

“The common interests they share are way larger than any differences. As both are emerging powers, which have the huge potential of being important forces in the international community, China and India should see more space for cooperation instead of contention. This agreement is fundamental to bilateral relations.

The article counselled Beijing and New Delhi to “come to terms with a bottom line of interactions, making sure the big picture remains intact, although both sides still have disagreements on some specific matters,” and steer clear of a zero-sum game, that India, under Western influence was “sliding into”.

Diplomatic sources told The Hindu that India’s diplomacy is pursuing a “multi-vectored approach” that is geared to promote New Delhi’s core interests, through simultaneous engagement, in carefully defined areas, with several countries, which may have problems with each other.
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SSridhar wrote:deejay, I understand that some discussions on naval cooperation has been in the works. Not sure, though.

That reminds me that in c. 2010, Ms. Clinton referred to SCS as West Philippines Sea while being in the Philippines after the annual ARF meeting.
Thank You SSji.
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China says Pakistan 'most reliable friend', vows to 'help in all respects' - DAWN
RAWALPINDI: Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Raheel Sharif's visit to China has opened new doors of cooperation between the two countries.

The army chief held important meetings with the Chinese leadership, Director General Inter-Services Public Relations Major General Asim Bajwa tweeted.

Meng Jianzhu, member of Politburo — Communist Party's second highest council — termed China's relationship with Pakistan "beyond individuals" adding that "Pakistan's concern is China's concern".

Chinese State Leader Yu Zhengsheng termed Pakistan as the "most reliable friend" and said just as Pakistan has always stood by China, Chinese government and its people will stand with Pakistan and help it in all respects.

Foreign Minister of China, Wang Yi, said Pakistan is China's "irreplaceable all weather friend" and that both the countries are part of a community of shared destiny. {If China shares Pakistan's destiny, it is in for very bad times. But, what can one say if China wants to commit harakiri?}

General Raheel thanked the Chinese leadership for its support to Pakistan and said, "The world must understand the evolving environment ... greater international focus, coordination [is required] to logically conclude the fight [against] terrorism."

COAS Raheel Sharif had met his counterpart Gen Qi Jianguo at the headquarters of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) on Sunday. Gen Sharif held extensive talks with General Qi during which views were exchanged on full range of regional security and defence-related issues.

They agreed to enhance long-term defence collaboration and strengthen security and counter-terrorism cooperation and intelligence sharing and training exchanges.


The army chief had also called on Vice Chairman of the Central Military Commission, Gen Fan Changlong on Sunday.

According to ISPR, Gen Fan described Pakistan and China as strategic cooperation partners and “iron brothers” {This is a newer terminology}.

Expressing solidarity with the people and the armed forces of Pakistan, Gen Fan had praised the success of Operation Zarb-i-Azb which he termed “decisive, bold and a hard blow for terrorists”.
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Indian, Chinese armies commit to uphold agreements on LAC - PTI, Economic Times
Armies of India and China have committed to uphold the agreements and protocol signed between the governments of the two countries to maintain peace and tranquility along the Line of Actual Control (LAC).

On the occasion of India's 66th Republic Day, a ceremonial border personnel meeting between the Indian army and the Peoples Liberation Army of China was held at the Chushul sector of the Eastern Ladakh today.

"The delegations parted amidst feeling of friendship and commitment towards enhancing the existing cordial relations and maintaining peace along the LAC," Udhampur-based defense PRO Col S D Goswami said.

He said both sides also sought to build on the mutual feeling to uphold agreements and protocol signed between the governments of the two sides to maintain peace and tranquility along the LAC.

"A ceremonial border personnel meeting on the occasion of India's 66th Republic Day was conducted in Chushul sector of Eastern Ladakh," he said.

He said Brigadier JKS Virk led the Indian delegation whereas Senior Colonel Fanjun led the Chinese delegation.

"The ceremonial border personnel meeting commenced by saluting the National Flag of India by both the delegation members. This was followed by the ceremonial address by both delegation leaders that was composed of exchange of greetings, best wishes and reflected the mutual desire for enhancing border defense cooperation," he said.

He said a cultural programme showcasing vibrant Indian culture and traditional grandeur was also organised. He said both the delegations interacted in a free, congenial and cordial environment.
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-isn ... 12729.html
Chinese state media had a couple of things to say about the trip, and they're not nice (or necessarily accurate)."T he shortened three-day visit is more symbolic than pragmatic, given the long-standing division between the two giants, which may be as huge as the distance between them," read one commentary in Xinhua, the Chinese state press agency." Three days are surely not enough for Obama and Modi to become true friends."The commentary also noted that one year ago, Prime Minister Modi was still banned from the US and American diplomats were being thrown out of Delhi – which apparently negates any progress made since then.Another piece, for the state tabloid Global Times, suggested that Western propaganda fabricated a rift between India and China."This fixed pattern of thinking was created and hyped up by the West, which, with ulterior motives, regards the 'Chinese dragon' and the 'Indian elephant' as natural rivals," it read. "However, a trap is a trap. Although craftily set, it will be revealed eventually."Chinese-Indian relations aren't terrible. China's president, Xi Jinping, was in India in September visiting Modi, and promised to invest in Indian railways, industrial parks, and nuclear power. But bilateral trade has fallen between the two countries in recent years, according to the Brookings Institution – and they have a long history of disputes over their 2,500-mile Himalayan border. Meanwhile, Modi's been cozying up next to Obama, whom he initially met in September in Washington, D.C.Obama is the first US president ever to visit India twice, and the first to be honored as chief guest at India's Republic Day military parade. (Japan's prime minister, Shinzo Abe, was chief guest last year.)Over the weekend, the two leaders announced new commitments on issues like nuclear energy, trade, and climate change (although no real details were provided):All of this signals a closer friendship between the world's two largest democracies. Meanwhile, China's Xi is still smarting from Modi's refusal to visit Beijing a few months ago.
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The die is cast, I think. for better or worse, PRC+Pak will almost certainly do everything they can do move in for the kill in our borderlands. For PRC, Jihad on India seems like the best option to keep India off balance and effectively incapable of or stunted in any possible Ind moves against China's expansion.

we should be prepared for this now.

the above statement of "reliable friend" by PRC is an overt admission that PRC intends to use Jihad on India as a weapon. if our Politicos/army/bureaucrats still see this as "fear mongering", they deserve what is coming.
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China has called Pak an irreplaceable friend. Fiends, should have rather called Pak an implacable friend.
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An irreplaceable friend is one who is already dead... This is the kind of thing you say when someone dies, and at his wake, or obituary. You will see phrases like this:

"Pakisatan was stronger than an iron brother, deeper than Musharraf, sweet as zam zam, and an irreplaceable friend. We will miss it"
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It is not a coincidence that the Russia-Pakistan relationship has also started growing. The contours of New Cold War are beginning to take shape.
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JE Menon wrote: . . . deeper than Musharraf, sweet as zam zam, and an irreplaceable friend. We will miss it"
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JEM, yeah, it has to be like what you said, "sweet as zam zam". Nomally a 'comparative degeree' is used like 'sweeter than honey' but with 'zam zam' that would become blasphemous. I hope the Chinese are careful.
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China says 'free-willed' India cannot be US ally
"India has never positioned itself as someone's yes-man," said a commentary in the Communist Party-run tabloid Global Times. "Its insistence on an independent foreign policy and ambition to be a major power will not reduce itself to a pawn to counter China's expanding influence and fulfil Washington's rebalancing plan."
LOL. Now China is indirectly saying that it was an "yes-man" to US till now. As somebody said, then Pakistan is surely a piece of rubber that needs to be flushed after its use.
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And that's something worrying isn't it. We are always pro-Soviets and now we are moving towards a non-aligned policy aka India centric policy. Except that we were non aligned last time plus pro Soviets. Looks like we are trying to be non-aligned this time plus pro-US [pro-democracy?].

It adds to the mix... but if push comes to shove, I think Ruskies will tilt pro-India? Unless China pushes Russia into an anti-India stand with a large dollop of cash.

Adds to a lot of strategic uncertainties. Russia is moving pro-China surely. But I am guessing they aren't liking it either. They are too proud and the Chinese from what I know of them like subservient dogs.
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I don't think much of the Russia/{China,Pakistan} axis. It's going to grow, but is Russia going to throw it's lot irrevocably with China ? Unlikely. Where are Putin's oligarchs going to keep their money ? Besides Putin won't be around for ever.
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From NightWatch for the night of Jan 27, 2015
China-India-US: Chinese reaction to the US-Indian nuclear arrangement has been predictably negative. The Foreign Ministry spokesman commented on US support for Indian membership in the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) and three other international export control regimes.

"We support the Group's carrying out discussions on admitting new members, and at the same time we encourage India to take next steps to satisfy the relevant standards of the group….We believe that such (an) inclusion should be conducive to the integrity and effectiveness of the regime and the decision should be made on consensus. We notice India's commitment to relevant issues," said Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying.

Comment: China analysts wrote that China's position is that India should first join the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). China also judges that Pakistan should be allowed to join the NSG and probably would push for Pakistani membership should the US push for Indian membership.

The language about" noticing India's commitment to relevant issues" means India has not complied with safeguards in the NPT, among other control regimes. The message is that Chinese leaders judge the US is rewarding India for bad behavior. News analysts said that the reference to "admitting new members by consensus" means that China intends to be involved in shaping any consensus on Indian membership.

The 48-member NSG controls almost all international nuclear trade. Membership enables countries to use freely technology and nuclear material from other nations. If admitted, India would be the only member that is not a signatory to the NPT.

Reaction to the Joint Statement. The Chinese leadership also is displeased by the Indo-US statement by Indian Prime Minister Modi and the US President, entitled the Joint Strategic Vision for the Asia Pacific and Indian Ocean Region. The Chinese government expressed its displeasure with the statement which mentions maritime disputes, referring specifically to the South China Sea. China warned that India should not fall prey to the ulterior motives of the United States.

Comment: By now it is routine for China to react negatively to any discussion of the South China Sea as subject to dispute. The Chinese claim sovereignty over most of the Sea and all the islands and resources. He Joint Strategic Vision also resembles a Cold War-style regional condominium arrangement, whereby the great powers would divide up a region into spheres of influence to avoid competition and minimize confrontation.

The US responded that the US and India both have good relations with China and want any disputes settled peacefully, according to international law. The Chinese deny that international law applies to its internal waters.
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Sushma Swaraj's Beijing visit 'important': China - PTI, ToI
China on Wednesday said it attaches "great importance" to external affairs minister Sushma Swaraj's visit here [Beijing]this week, during which she will interact with top Chinese leaders and attend the 13th Russia, India and China (RIC) foreign ministers meeting.

"This is her first visit since she took over office last year. Both sides attach great importance to her visit," Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying told a media briefing here.

Swaraj will be the senior most Indian leader to visit Beijing after US President Barack Obama's unprecedented second visit to India to attend the Republic Day parade and the India-US joint statement on advancing shared security in Asia Pacific region which evoked considerable concern here with a spate of critical commentaries in the official media.

During the visit, that begins Saturday, she will interact with top Chinese leaders and attend the 13th RIC foreign ministers meeting on February 2 along with her Chinese and Russian counterparts Wang Yi and Sergei Lavrov. She is scheduled to hold talks with Wang and is also expected to meet Chinese President Xi Jinping.

Swaraj will also inaugurate the 'Visit India Year' being organized by India to attract more tourists from China and address the India-China Media Forum being held on the sidelines of her visit.

Elaborating on how China viewed Swaraj's visit, Hua said bilateral ties between the two largest developing countries and major emerging economies were progressing in a "sound and stable way".

"Our cooperation has made some headway. We are enhancing mutual political trust and practical cooperation in various fields. We are in sound coordination and cooperation in regional and international issues," she said.

Last year, President Xi made a successful state-visit to India during which a platform and new chapter for strategic cooperation was written, injecting new impetus for bilateral ties, she said.

"China will work with India to sustain a sound momentum to build a closely-knit development partnership and realize cooperative, peaceful and common development," she said.

Hua said the three countries Russia, China and India are emerging markets and during the RIC foreign ministers meeting, they will exchange views on practical cooperation and issues of common interest.

"We share similar views on major international and regional issues.

"So during meeting they will exchange views on practical cooperation and issues of common interest. We believe a range of consensus will emerge from the meeting to further our political trust and our practical cooperation," she said.
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India wants border issue resolution with China with 'honesty' - PTI, Economic Times
Asserting that it has no territorial ambitions, India today said it wants to resolve all issues with China with "honesty" and asked it to come forward to end the "perceptional differences" over the border.

Home Minister Rajnath Singh also sounded unperturbed by the increasing cooperation and friendship between China and Pakistan.

"There is a perceptional difference along the Sino-Indian border. China says here is the border. We say no, here is the border," he said here in Uttar Pradesh after inaugurating a battalion camp of border guarding force ITBP.

"India wants a peaceful resolution of all disputes... We have been trying to resolve the border problem. China should come forward," Singh added.

The two countries are discussing resolution of the border dispute through a mechanism of Special Representatives, who have held a number of rounds of talks.

He underlined that India never had any territorial ambitions and wants resolution of "perceptional differences" on the Line of Actual Control (LAC) with China.

"We are not expansionist. India's history says that we have never been expansionist. We have never attacked any country. We are worshippers of peace. China should understand this. We want to resolve all issues with honesty," the Home Minister said.

At the same time, he mentioned the work being done to upgrade the infrastructure along the LAC as part of defensive measures.

35 new border posts of ITBP have already been sanctioned, out of which 22 are going to start functioning soon, he said, adding work is also on at 27 priority roads out of the 34 sanctioned by MHA.

He said dedicated air connectivity has "already" been given to the ITBP in December last year for enhanced mobility of the troops,

To a question about increasing cooperation and friendship between China and Pakistan, the Home Minister said, "We have no issues. Let them improve their relations. India wants to improve its relations with all neighbouring countries."
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The Chinese seem to be somewhat rattled by the Obama visit, hence the slew of articles of late praising Indian achievements, India's independent foreign policy, now looking forward to the Sushma Swaraj visit, it being important, etc. The usual Chinese template sounds like a refined version of the Pakistani press releases, and this latest change in tone is noticeable. Maybe this was an achievement of the Obama visit? We should wait and see how warmly SS is received in China.
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So the Indian govt. wants "honesty" from China is it? "we say no here is the border"...except India is drawing the border in Indian territory rather than laying claims over Tibet and parts of Xinjiang, where as chinese are drawing the border deliberately into Indian territory whereever they need the land for geostrategic advantage. All this "look at us, we are so upright, we only ask was is owed us" attitude is a lame approach to deal with China.
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The new entente with the U.S. - Amitabh Mattoo, The Hindu
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China factor

While India has traditionally favoured a policy of deep engagement with all major powers, the special relationship with the U.S. today, especially the “vision” statement, is rooted in great apprehensions in New Delhi about China’s aggressive “peripheral diplomacy,” particularly after the intrusions in Chumar during President Xi Jinping’s visit to India last year. That the new Chinese leadership had abandoned Deng Xiaoping’s ‘24 Character Strategy’ of biding time, hiding its capacities and not attracting attention has been clear for some time now, but what is intriguing is that Beijing has managed to alienate nearly all its neighbours, except North Korea and Pakistan, by its malevolence. Not surprisingly, a rising China is a cause of trepidation in most capitals of the world today. Will Beijing now introspect and recalibrate? For it must realise that New Delhi’s closeness to Washington is also a function of its strategic distance from Beijing.

In late 2005, amidst the negotiations over the civil nuclear agreement with the U.S., Dr. Singh, appointed a task force on global strategic developments headed by the doyen of India’s strategic thinking, K. Subrahmanyam. As a member of the task force, I remember the meetings essentially became a series of inspiring lectures by Mr. Subrahmanyam on geopolitics. Mr. Subrahmanyam was an architect of many of India’s key strategic decisions, including the policy that led to the creation of Bangladesh, the Indo-Soviet treaty, as well as the nuclear tests of 1998. But throughout the meetings, Mr. Subrahmanyam, with a mind as agile as that of a restless teenage prodigy, would emphasise the importance of arriving at a modus vivendi with the U.S., the overriding importance of the nuclear deal, how it was in Washington’s own interest to support a rising India and how New Delhi should grab that opportunity. As the United States and India finally “recognise” each other and promise to realise each other’s potential, the new entente between the two countries is a fitting tribute to the legacy of India’s modern-day Chanakya, just days after his 86th birthday.
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‘Natural partners in many areas’ - Atul Aneja, The Hindu
External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj, who heads for Beijing in pursuit of what is being dubbed as New Delhi’s “multi-vectored” diplomacy, is expected to discuss broad themes, not necessarily on the radar during U.S. President Barack Obama’s just-concluded visit to India. Among them could be the next steps to strengthen the Brazil-Russia-India-China-South Africa (BRICS) grouping, and deepening of Sino-Indian economic ties.

The Chinese side acknowledges that President Obama was “probably one of the most high-profile guests ever attending the Republic Day Parade in India,” but according to a Xinhua commentary, “his presence there this time is not expected to significantly impact the longstanding China-India relations.” The write-up points out that India and China are “natural partners in many different areas,” they being the world’s two most populous nations and also on account of their status as the “two largest emerging economies.”

“Hailed as global factories and global service providers respectively, China and India enjoy great economic potential for cooperation in investment, financial services and high technologies.” The article, appearing ahead of Ms. Swaraj’s visit, points out that despite their border disputes, there were other cases in point that could serve as testament to the growing rapport between Beijing and New Delhi, the latest being joint New Year celebrations by the two sides at a bordering area on January 1.

At her media briefing on Wednesday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying signalled that Ms. Swaraj’s visit falls within the ambit of a 5-10 year framework plan that was unveiled during the visit to India last September by Chinese President Xi Jinping. She said China was willing to work with India to forge a closer partnership.
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Sushma’s China visit to smooth ruffled feathers - Suhasini Haider, The Hindu
After the completion of President Obama’s visit, the government is looking east again. External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj is heading to Beijing on Saturday for a three-day visit.

While the Beijing visit is timed with the 13th Russia-India-China (RIC) trilateral meeting of foreign ministers, it will also be seen as an attempt to smooth ruffled feathers with the Chinese leadership, after India and the U.S. announced a joint vision statement on the Asia Pacific.

In a statement seemingly tied to the visit, Home Minister Rajnath Singh said that India was keen to resolve the border issue with China, which he called a “perceptional difference” between them. “India wants a peaceful resolution of all disputes. China should come forward [for talks],” he added.

Mr. Singh’s comments, made to ITBP soldiers at a battalion camp in Kanpur on Wednesday, are in stark contrast to his more angry statements and tweets in the past few months over China’s “incursions” and “threats.” Sources confirmed to The Hindu that Ms. Swaraj will call on President Xi Jinping during her visit, and is likely to discuss Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s plans to travel to China later this year. In the past few days, a series of articles in Beijing’s official and other media have criticised President Obama’s visit, calling it a “trap” to promote “India and China rivalry.” The Chinese government also reacted sharply to the vision statement on the Asia Pacific and Indian Ocean region that included a commitment to “safeguard maritime security and ensuring freedom of navigation and over flight throughout the region, especially in the South China Sea.”

“The Chinese leadership will certainly want to know what happened there when they meet Ms. Swaraj, and to understand the context of the Indo-U.S. statement. Hopefully, they will understand that this is a delicate diplomatic dance that needs to be played by India in a multipolar world,” said Ravi Bhoothalingam of the Institute of Chinese Studies.

Ms. Swaraj may also face a few awkward moments for President Obama’s direct attack on Russia at a press conference in Delhi, when she meets with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. Mr. Obama had referred to Russia’s actions in Ukraine as “bullying,” and both Mr. Putin and Mr. Lavrov have made strong statements against President Obama’s comments over the past week. But government sources dismissed reports of concerns over diplomatic tensions with China or Russia, saying “in the real world there are no such concerns.”

The visit to Beijing by Ms. Swaraj had earlier been scheduled for August 28 last year, and had even been announced. It had to be put off due to the Prime Minister’s visit to Japan. A few weeks later, relations were hit by Chinese incursions during President Xi’s visit, and they have undergone a tense period since then. After the U.S. President’s visit, however, it is understood that the government is keen to take relations with China forward, especially on the border talks that have made no progress since Mr. Modi and President Xi committed more than four months ago to appointing their special representatives for the next round.{Rajnath Singh's statement calling for a 'honest' settlement is an indicator that the Chinese side is reluctant for talks. He is sayig that China should 'come forward for talks'}
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The Hindu predictably has its lips superglued to the Chinese posterior.
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I am amazed that 'birds of the same feather' flock to The Hindu. Or, is it somehow the knack of The Hindu to pick such people?
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Obama India visit only scratched the surface, says Xinhua - Atul Aneja, The Hindu
Taking a hard look at President Barack Obama’s visit to India, a section of the Chinese state media is calling it a journey that was “symbolic than pragmatic,” which would fail to bridge vast differences between the two countries over major issues including the environment and food security.

An Op-ed run by the Xinhua news agency points out that reduced to its bare bones, the “superficial rapprochement” between the two countries was a deal—a face saving cover before the U.S. Congress by the Obama administration on account of its less than successful “Pivot to Asia” policy and India’s commercial demands.

“For one thing, Obama's "Pivot to Asia" policy has been distracted or even derailed by the undying conflicts in the Middle East and Ukraine,” said the article. The write-up was referring to the Washington decision to amass bulk of its forces in the Asia-Pacific, under the U.S. Pacific Command, apparently to enforce the containment of China.

It added: “He (President Obama) needs this trip to tell the Capitol Hill and his supporters that his administration can make progress on important relations. More frankly, he needs India to side with him.

For India, a closer relationship with the United States is compatible with its multi-faceted diplomacy and could be commercially beneficial.”{One can easily see that in all the recent commentaries whether it involved India-Japan or India-US, China has been careful not to find any fault with India. At this point, China is certainly wooing India, whatever may be its intentions eventually}


The daily observed that three days are surely not enough for Mr. Obama and Prime Minister Narendra Modi to become “true friends,” given their hard differences on issues like climate change, agricultural disputes and nuclear energy cooperation.

“For climate change, Obama has made the issue a policy priority for his second term and pressed emerging economies like India to shoulder disproportional share of burden.

However, being the third largest emitter of greenhouse gases, India is heavily dependent on coal-fueled plants. As a matter of fact, economic growth and eradication of poverty is more urgent for Indian officials than cutting carbon emissions.”

Regarding agricultural disputes, differences between Washington and the New Delhi for months stalled the implementation of the WTO's Trade Facilitation Agreement.

“Concerning nuclear energy cooperation, Washington and New Delhi have long been engaged in a complicated dance since 2008.”

The op-ed stressed that, “only one year ago, U.S. diplomats were expelled from New Delhi amid widespread public outrage over the treatment of an Indian diplomat in New York.” Mr. Modi, when he was Chief Minister of Gujarat, had been “banned from entering the United States.” {It is reminding India of unpleasant history deliberately, lest somebody forgot it}
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http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/region/30- ... -china-sea
US would welcome Japan air patrols in South China Sea
TOKYO: The United States would welcome a move by Japan to extend air patrols into the South China Sea as a counterweight to a growing fleet of Chinese vessels pushing Beijing’s territorial claims in the region, a senior US Navy officer told Reuters.Currently, regular patrols by Japanese aircraft only reach into the East China Sea, where Tokyo is at loggerheads with Beijing over disputed islands. Extending surveillance flights into the South China Sea will almost certainly increase tensions between the world’s second- and third-largest economies.“I think allies, partners and friends in the region will look to the Japanese more and more as a stabilizing function,” Admiral Robert Thomas, commander of the Seventh Fleet and the top US navy officer in Asia, said in an interview. “In the South China Sea, frankly, the Chinese fishing fleet, the Chinese coast guard and the (navy) overmatch their neighbours,” Thomas said.
China’s foreign ministry said it had no immediate comment on the interview.Thomas’s comments show Pentagon support for a key element of Japan Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s push for a more active military role in the region. That is crucial because U.S and Japanese officials are now negotiating new bilateral security guidelines expected to give Japan a bigger role in the alliance, 70 years after the end of World War Two.“I think that JSDF (Japan Maritime Self Defense Forces) operations in the South China Sea makes sense in the future,” Thomas said.Japan is not party to the dispute in the South China Sea where China, the Philippines, Vietnam, Taiwan, Malaysia and Brunei have competing claims. But the waterway provides 10 per cent of the global fisheries catch and carries $5 trillion in ship-borne trade, a large portion of which is to and from Japan.Those changes coincide with the deployment of a new Japanese maritime patrol plane, the P-1, with a range of 8,000 km (5,000 miles). That is double the range of current aircraft and could allow Japan to push surveillance deep into the South China Sea.“This is a logical outgrowth of Abe’s push for a more robust and proactive military. It is also a substantial departure from JSDF’s customary operations,” said Grant Newsham, a research fellow at the Japan Forum for Strategic Studies and a former US Marine liaison officer to Japan’s military.Newsham said sending surveillance aircraft to the South China Sea would allow Japan to deepen its military ties with nations like the Philippines, one of Abe’s goals to counter China’s growing naval power.Beijing has outlines the scope of its claims with reference to a so-called nine-dash line that takes in about 90 percent of the South China Sea on Chinese maps.“The alleged nine dash line, which doesn’t comport with international rules and norms, standards, laws, creates a situation down there, which is unnecessary friction,” said Thomas, the US navy commander.“For the Philippines, the issue is one of capacity. For the Japanese that is a perfect niche for them to help, not just in equipment, but in training and operations,” the US Seventh Fleet commander said.Centered around the USS George Washington carrier battle group with its home port in Japan, the US Seventh Fleet includes some 80 vessels, 140 aircraft and 40,000 sailors making it the most powerful naval force in the western Pacific.
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Takeaways from the Obama visit - Lisa Curtis, The Hindu
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By demonstrating that China is very much on his mind, Mr. Modi has reportedly raised the idea of reviving the Quad (security collaboration between Australia, India, Japan and the U.S.). Shinzo Abe, during his previous stint as Prime Minister of Japan, proposed the idea of the Quad almost nine years ago. The four countries backed away from the proposal when China raised strong objections. Mr. Modi’s mention of the Quad may have been aimed at convincing China to back down from its assertive position with regard to their border disputes. Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit to India in September 2014 was overshadowed by border tensions provoked by unusual movements of Chinese soldiers along the disputed frontier in northern Kashmir.

Incidentally, the Washington-based Heritage Foundation will join the Delhi-based Vivekananda International Foundation, the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, the Tokyo Foundation, and the Jakarta-based Habibie Center in Bali, Indonesia, next week for a Track II Quad-Plus dialogue to discuss ways to enhance cooperation in defence, regional security and counterterrorism.
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oh for a change..."Track II" might actually have some real content!
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