Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis (9-8-2014)

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Wow , real display of pakiness. Enjoy!

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PM's speech in Brussels to the NRI community:
http://pmindia.gov.in/en/news_updates/t ... nt=disable
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Cannot tell you how much i enjoyed this report. The true teaching of Malsi is Universal Brotherhood? yeah i'm joking. Atleast Sunni Brotherhood? Do read in full the following report to find out. Sharing some snippets.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/01/world ... .html?_r=0
The men were not hardened militants. One was a pharmacist, another a heating and cooling technician. One was a high school student. They were six cousins, all living in Saudi Arabia, all with the same secret. They had vowed allegiance to the Islamic State — and they planned to kill another cousin, a sergeant in the kingdom’s counterterrorism force.

And that is what they did. In February, the group abducted Sgt. Bader al-Rashidi, dragged him to the side of a road south of this central Saudi city, and shot and killed him. With video rolling, they condemned the royal family, saying it had forsaken Islam.

In July, a 19-year-old man murdered his uncle, a police colonel, before carrying out a suicide attack near a prison, wounding two guards.
Critics argue that many Saudi clerics have never renounced the aspects of the Wahhabi tradition that the Islamic State has adopted, especially with regard to Shiites, who make up an estimated 10 percent of the kingdom’s 20 million citizens. Many Saudi clerics consider Shiites heretics and accuse them of loyalty to Saudi Arabia’s regional rival, Iran.
The jihadists have exploited this by repeatedly launching suicide attacks on Shiite mosques and then accusing Saudi clerics of hypocrisy for condemning the violence. “It is clearly hard for Saudi clerics to condemn outright attacks on Shiites,” said Mr. Bunzel, the Princeton scholar.
Still, the group had struggled to target the security forces, so it told recruits to kill officers from their own families. General Turki summarized their message as, “You are closer, so no one will know you.”
In September, two men abducted their cousin, a soldier in the Saudi Army, and filmed a video of him bound and begging for mercy in the sand as they pledged allegiance to the Islamic State and shot him dead. The security forces killed one of them and arrested the other.
And the gem at the end.
Sergeant Rashidi’s brothers are glad the six are dead, but the episode has left them deeply suspicious.

“If anyone calls and says, ‘Where are you? I want to see you,’ you don’t trust him anymore,” Bandar said.
Lesson of the day, if you believe in Malsi, you cannot trust your brother. :rotfl:
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Study by the nonprofit Investigative Project on Terrorism (IPT') using data collected by the University of Maryland’s Global Terrorism Database shows a massive growth in Mohammadden Terrorism.

Fox News:

Bloody tide: Terror deaths increased 8-fold since 2010, says study

The study itself can be accessed at IPT’s website:

Islamist Terror Growing in Lethality and Geography, IPT Analysis Finds

Gratifying to see the Mohammadden Terrorism fomented by the uniformed Jihadi’s of the Punjabi dominated Military in order to attempt to intimidate India has boomeranged and between 2007 and 2015, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan has fallen victim of its own tactical brilliance and is seeing death caused by Mohammadden Terrorism reach levels that are very many multiples of India.
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Yet another story concocted to portray Mohammadden’s as victims of “Islamophobia” proves to be a case of Mohammadden Taqiyya dissimulation designed to fool Non-Mohammaddens. Mohammadden woman who claimed that a man called her a terrorist and slashed her in the face in New York, recants and admits facial wound was self-inflicted:

Muslim woman made up story about being slashed and called a 'terrorist' : She admitted wounds were self-inflicted to investigators
A New York woman who was believed to be the victim of a racially-motivated slashing attack admitted to police that she made up the claim, and the wound was actually self-inflicted.

Initial reports indicated that the 20-year-old Muslim woman was slashed in the face by a man who called her a “terrorist” outside Trinity Church in New York City’s Financial District on Thursday afternoon. The woman, who attends a nearby private cosmetology school, was left with a two-inch gash on her left cheek.

NYPD investigators were unable to find witnesses to corroborate the alleged attack. The incident reportedly occurred during rush hour, which normally sees peak pedestrian traffic.

The investigation revealed that the woman had slashed her own left cheek and she recanted her story Thursday evening, the NYPD told The Independent.
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The US does unto France what China did to India.

US censors comment of French President François Hollande on Mohammadden Terrorism made during a Nuclear Security Summit meeting with US President Obama and advisers. Video released by Whitehouse purges reference to Mohammadden Terrorism. Reference to Mohammadden Terrorism was purged from Hollande’s comment that “the roots of terrorism, Islamist terrorism, is in Syria and in Iraq”:

White House censors video to remove ‘Islamic terrorism’ quote

Our Prime Minister Modi’s message has certainly not got through:

End attitude of ‘his terrorist not mine’, PM Narendra Modi says in US
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>>The US does unto France what China did to India.

Are you referring to the blocking of sanction on Masood Azhar? If yes, then it is a completely different thing and a totally different scale.
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^^^ Agree on the scale bit.
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arun wrote:Yet another story concocted to portray Mohammadden’s as victims of “Islamophobia” proves to be a case of Mohammadden Taqiyya dissimulation designed to fool Non-Mohammaddens. Mohammadden woman who claimed that a man called her a terrorist and slashed her in the face in New York, recants and admits facial wound was self-inflicted:

Muslim woman made up story about being slashed and called a 'terrorist' : She admitted wounds were self-inflicted to investigators
A New York woman who was believed to be the victim of a racially-motivated slashing attack admitted to police that she made up the claim, and the wound was actually self-inflicted.

Initial reports indicated that the 20-year-old Muslim woman was slashed in the face by a man who called her a “terrorist” outside Trinity Church in New York City’s Financial District on Thursday afternoon. The woman, who attends a nearby private cosmetology school, was left with a two-inch gash on her left cheek.

NYPD investigators were unable to find witnesses to corroborate the alleged attack. The incident reportedly occurred during rush hour, which normally sees peak pedestrian traffic.

The investigation revealed that the woman had slashed her own left cheek and she recanted her story Thursday evening, the NYPD told The Independent.
Yet another story spun to portray Mohammadden’s as victims of “Islamophobia” turns out to nothing as such and instead turns out to be a case of Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden interaction gone wrong. Thus story from Mohammadden dominated area of Molenbeek in Belgium that was spun by media as Mohammadden female being deliberately run down by picture taking Non-Mohammaddens in “Islamophobic” attack during Right Wing Anti Mohammadden Terrorism protest turns out to be a case of Mohammadden female run down by drunk and drugged up picture taking Mohammadden males by name of Mohamed B and Redouane B:

EXPOSED: Molenbeek ‘Far Right’ Hit And Run Was Muslim-On-Muslim Attack

Another article on the subject of the identity of those involved in the hit-run:

Two charged after hit-and-run in Molenbeek
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X Posted from the “Great Indian Political Drama 5 - February 2016” thread.

Nehru-Gandhi family led Congress Party helmed UPA coalition’s gambit to play religion based communal vote-bank politics in order to appease Mohammaddens by adopting anti-reservation policy and denying seat reservation to Scheduled Caste, Scheduled Tribe and Other Backward Caste students at Aligarh Muslim University (AMU) is thwarted by BJP led NDA Government of our Prime Minister, Narendra Modi. BJP led Government informs Judiciary that they will not challenge Allahabad High Court verdict holding the AMU a non-minority institution thereby allowing seat reservation to be made for SC, ST and OBC students:

Aligarh Muslim University not a minority institution: Govt tells SC

Meanwhile the Nehru-Gandhi family led Congress Party refuses to back down from its Anti SC/ST/OBC policy and continues a policy based on communal vote-bank politics in order to appease Mohammaddens presumably because they form significant portion of Assembly poll bound Assam, West Bengal and Kerala:

Congress accuses PM Modi govt of putting the clock back on AMU issue
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Brigitte Gabriel, a Christian Maronite from Lebanon, but now an American citizen, and working for the American Congress For Truth and ACT! for America explains why "Moderate" Muslims are irrelevant:



Following is the "establishment" view:





Secretary Hillary Clinton here agrees with Senator Sanders and President George W. Bush.

Basically the two approaches differ very much in strategy:

Western "establishment" view is that "Moderate Muslims have to fight against extremism in Muslim societies, which Western security agencies in cooperation with various intelligence agencies in Muslim countries would help fight Jihadists". In the mean time, West would continue to lavish Muslim societies and Muslim countries with goodies in exchange for their cooperation.

This view facilitates the establishment of certain special incentives:
  1. in fact, so called "Moderate" Muslims are encouraged by this largess to have "radical Islam" as a main player, because its existence in fact enables them to receive this largess. Would Western governments be paying "moderate Muslims" anything if there was no Jihad against the West?
  2. basically the work of these "Moderate" Muslims is then to come on stage, i.e. get invited by the media channels, and quasi-condemn any Jihadist attack on West. I say quasi-condemn, because they have two points to get through
    1. Formally distance Islam from any such attack. This is to legitimize the platform of "moderate Islam", which allows a large section of Muslims to receive funding from Western sources.
    2. Attack Western society for Islamophobia, and make the case that such Islamophobia in the past is actually the catalyst for such violent reaction from Islamic extremists. This is to put the West on the defensive and to extract even more concessions in form of Muslim appeasement.
    3. Furthermore, any condemnation by some Muslim organization of any violent attack on Western society by Jihadists, is to give false hope to Westerners that there is some section among Muslims, which is trying to fight against extremism, even though there is no such resistance and even if there is, it is not serious. In fact, it is irrelevant.
So "Western establishment" is only in the business of giving false hope to Western citizens that radical Islam can somehow be fought from within the Muslim society. Considering just how weak Western governments and Western society has become - exhausted military, depleted resources, failing law and order, recessions, trade deficits, disunity, there is even less incentive for any "moderate Muslims" that were there to switch loyalties. This stance allows Western elite to sweet talk any necessity to confront radical Islam and thus to continue their business dealings with Muslim elite and Sheikhs. Such a view is based on over-confidence in the West, in the superiority of their own way of life and thinking, that they think others, in this case Muslims, are simply waiting to embrace them and dump Islamism.

Brigitte Gabriel, in the video above, is simply making the case, that "moderate Muslims" are irrelevant to Western fight against radical Islam, and West should not build any strategy to deal with radical Islam based on cooperation from "moderate Muslims" and more importantly there is no need to appease Muslims in any way. "Moderate Muslims" are not part of the solution according to this view.
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Cannot tell you how much i enjoyed this report. The true teaching of Malsi is Universal Brotherhood? yeah i'm joking. Atleast Sunni Brotherhood? Do read in full the following report to find out. Sharing some snippets.
Shanu-ji :

I read the report posted by you , with interest :
IMO,-going by the news coming out of Pakiland - this kind of Sunni Muslim Malsi ( and its allegiance to ISIS) is also making its entry into that problematic entity :mrgreen:
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New Delhi (CNN)Machete-wielding attackers struck in the capital of Bangladesh Wednesday night, killing 26-year-old secular writer Nazimuddin Samad.

Samad, described by Bangladesh police as a masters student at Jagannath University, is the sixth secularist writer or publisher to have been murdered in Dhaka in the last 16 months. Police called the murder a pre-planned attack.
"He was on his way back home from his evening classes when he was circled by a group of three to four people," Senior Assistant Police Commissioner Nurul Amin of the Dhaka Police, told CNN.
"First the attackers hacked Samad with machetes, then shot him."
Police say the attackers then fled the scene on motorcycle. No arrests have yet been made.
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Case of sexual grooming and rape in Rochdale, UK, of Non-Mohammadden children by mainly Mohammadden men with roots in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan comes to an end with stiff prison sentences being handed down:

Ten Pakistani men sentenced for child sexual exploitation in UK
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manjgu wrote:my friends in dubai ..a hindu girl married to a christian boy... the girls mom fell very ill and was in hospital ..in almost terminal stage of cancer..the doctors were refusing the patient to die and keeping her alive artificially with medicines, respirators, blood transfusion.and mounting expense... they were talking to the social care worker in the hospital..who said convert to Islam and ur bills will be no problem !
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Falijee wrote: Shanu-ji :

I read the report posted by you , with interest :
IMO,-going by the news coming out of Pakiland - this kind of Sunni Muslim Malsi ( and its allegiance to ISIS) is also making its entry into that problematic entity :mrgreen:
Falijee
Any reports that you can share on Pakiland 'brotherly love'. Would be a nice read and important indicator to track. Thanks in advance.

In other news, Sunni on Sunni fight flares in Abyan (Aden) province, Yemen as the Shias take kool-aid of ceasefire, though there are still some confusion about the real perpetrators.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/ar ... ource.html
Armed members of Al-Qaeda ambushed a group of young soldiers travelling in three civilian vehicles in the province of Abyan, killing at least 20 of them, said the source, who requested anonymity.

The assailants ordered the soldiers to get out of the vehicles and gunned them down early in the morning in the town of Ahwar, the source told AFP.

The soldiers were young recruits who were being deployed as part of the internationally recognised government's efforts to restore security to areas under its control.

They had been travelling to a military camp in Hadramawt, the neighbouring province whose capital has been held by Al-Qaeda since April last year.

Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), also known as Ansar al-Sharia, in an online statement denied it was involved in the attack.
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An interesting article on Global Islamism and how it's been responding to Egypt's political transitions in the past several years. Egypt is an important center in the Islamic mind. While the Caliphate and "core" Islamism of the Turkey-Gulf axis receives a lot of focus, similar attention is not given to Egypt.

http://theislamicmonthly.com/egypt-kill ... -the-west/
Ramadan’s public criticisms of the Muslim Brotherhood between 2011 and 2013 related to what he viewed as tactical errors and imprudent strategies, rather than a denunciation of any malicious actions. He disapproved of the Brotherhood taking a dominant role in the political arena by fielding a candidate in the presidential election in 2012, describing it as a “trap,” and criticised their neoliberal economic policies. Yet, Ramadan did not publicly condemn Morsi’s extrajudicial decree in 2012, the Brotherhood’s sectarianism, or the permissive attitude toward public incitement to violence in and out of power. These shortcomings are critical not only to understanding how Egypt developed between 2011 and 2013—but were also deeply unethical actions. But while his record suggests Ramadan would not have supported the moves, he did not publicly censure the Brotherhood for them.

The article meanders into a position on what is "good" for Muslims in West (or generally to muslims living in non-muslim majority countries) --- but the very fact that his idealistic view of "what must be" is so rare kind of disproves the notions he has of the spread and importance Islamic theologians who do not view power relationships from a purely dominance-submission PoV.

What's important for non-muslims to recognize is that all these criticisms from Islamic theologians or Islamic Councils/Orgs are basically tactical positions that are staked based on their view of the existing balance of power between Muslims and Non-muslims. This fundamental decision-making paradigm influences almost all Islamic authorities and councils. It all traces back to their analysis of existing balance of power. It has nothing to do with "moderate" vs "radical". Everything is green. It's just a matter of when and where to adopt the greener version.
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I think what he could not handle has more to do with "living with half-naked women yet not being allowed to rape them and instead being forced to respect their rights"! Lahaulewalakuvat!
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RajeshA Ji,
Looking at his pic, I see a Jihadi in him!
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Arjun wrote:http://www.thestatesman.com/news/latest ... 33523.html

Hmm, Modi repeats in Brussels - site of the latest ISIS outrage, his spiel that "no faith teaches terrorism" and "terrorism needs to be de-linked from any religion". Perhaps he or the RSS can take the trouble of fleshing out and formalizing their ideology on this issue, assuming they do have an intellectually thought out position on the topic.

Despite all the talk of Modi-Trump similarities, it looks like Modi would not be in agreement with Trump's proposed policy on Muslim immigration.
Modi is a coward on Islam, or must appear to be, by necessity. No public figure in this country could ever get away with talking like Donald Trump, not when muslims already account for 30% of our population. Our vermin infestation is too large and irreversible.
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Y. Kanan wrote:
Arjun wrote:http://www.thestatesman.com/news/latest ... 33523.html

Hmm, Modi repeats in Brussels - site of the latest ISIS outrage, his spiel that "no faith teaches terrorism" and "terrorism needs to be de-linked from any religion". Perhaps he or the RSS can take the trouble of fleshing out and formalizing their ideology on this issue, assuming they do have an intellectually thought out position on the topic.

Despite all the talk of Modi-Trump similarities, it looks like Modi would not be in agreement with Trump's proposed policy on Muslim immigration.
Modi is a coward on Islam, or must appear to be, by necessity. No public figure in this country could ever get away with talking like Donald Trump, not when muslims already account for 30% of our population. Our vermin infestation is too large and irreversible.
:eek:
It is around 16-18% of the current Indian population. Don't scare people pls. :((
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Malaysia politician's office attacked after he describes Zakir Naik as 'Satan' - DAWN
A petrol bomb was thrown on Tuesday at the office of a senior politician in Malaysia's opposition-ruled Penang state, after he described preacher Zakir Naik as “Satan”.

State officials said no one was injured and no damage caused in the early-morning attack after the fire-bomb landed on the centre's metal shutters.

State Deputy Chief Minister P. Ramasamy said the attack may have been prompted by his Facebook post over the weekend about preacher Zakir Naik.

“It could possibly be related to my comment on Zakir as Satan,” he told AFP.

Ramasamy accused Zakir, an Indian national, of giving speeches designed to promote hatred of other faiths.

His posting was not directed against Islam or Muslims but against “this particular person”, he said in a statement.

“I regret the use of the word 'Satan' which has caused uneasiness and unhappiness among Muslims in Malaysia,” Ramasamy said, adding that the word was later deleted.

Zakir, 51, is an Islamic preacher on comparative religion.

Ramasamy, who is also the Penang Hindu Endowment Board chairman, had spoken out against a planned programme by Zakir's son, also an Islamic preacher, in Penang state on April 15.

On Sunday police banned Zakir from giving a lecture at a university in the southern state of Malacca following complaints from minority groups.

He had planned to speak on “Similarities between Hinduism and Islam”.

National police chief Khalid Abu Bakar said in a tweet on Monday that Zakir was barred to ensure public order.

The aim was to protect “public order and religious sensitivities in Malaysia”, he wrote.


Issues related to race, religion and language are considered sensitive in Malaysia, which witnessed deadly riots mainly between ethnic Malays and Chinese in 1969.
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arun wrote:Case of sexual grooming and rape in Rochdale, UK, of Non-Mohammadden children by mainly Mohammadden men with roots in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan comes to an end with stiff prison sentences being handed down:

Ten Pakistani men sentenced for child sexual exploitation in UK
stiff prison sentences, pun intended?? :)
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I understand a few countries in Europe, and Saudia Arabia have deradicalization programs in place since 2012. Canadian government has allocated funds for this purpose, and now the Canadian Council of Imams now plans to open 2 or 3 deradicalization centres in the Toronto area (this city being the largest and densest in Canada).

Deradicalization clinics? Really?!? How do you reprogram an ideology that is at the core of the belief system of a religion/way of life?

I can only shake my head at the fact that this religion/way of life seems to draw out a disproportionately large amount of real nutters who want to maim and kill, and that special supports need to be put into place to allow them to live next to normal people. Next, I suspect, the narrative will be that civilized nations with statistically significant malsic populations should also implement Sharia so as to accomodate special needs and to avoid further radicalization.

The approach needs to be "integrate, behave, or get out" - UK, nanny nordic states, Belgium etc have taken the opposite approach, which is to encourage behaviours incompatible with the values of the rest of society, and look where that's gotten us.

Aargh!!

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canad ... -extremism
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^As said by Ayan hirsi in the recent debate.

Above (canadian,nordic,UQ,western liberal) thinking originates from tripe like "There is nothing wrong in Islam, it is the Muslims who are misguided".

The answer should always be " There is lot that is wrong in Islam and unless reformed common Muslims will never find Peace ".
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https://www.clarionproject.org/news/isi ... im-leaders#
ISIS Has Hit List of Western Muslim Leaders
The fourteenth issue of the Islamic State's propaganda magazine Dabiq, lists 22 Western Muslim leaders as "Imams of Kufr" who should be killed.
Dabiq writes:

“One must either take the journey to dār al-Islām, joining the ranks of the mujāhidīn therein, or wage jihād by himself with the resources available to him (knives, guns, explosives, etc.) to kill the cru­saders and other disbelievers and apostates, including the imāms of kufr, to make an example of them, as all of them are valid – rather, obligatory – targets ac­cording to the Sharī’ah, except for those who openly repent from kufr before they are apprehended.”

The list shows the extent of the Islamic State’s adherence to the doctrine of takfir, which enables them to brand any Muslim who does not submit to their authority and hold by their interpretation of Islam a heretic worthy of death.



Clarion Project is reprinting the entire list here:

Hamza Yusuf

Suhaib Webb

Muhammad al-Yaqoubi

Hisham Kabbani

Yasir Qadhi

Bilal Philips

Pierre Vogel

Tawfique Chowdhury

Waleed Basyouni

Abdullah Hakim Quick

Abū Basīr at-Tartūsī

Mohamed Elibiary,

Arif Alikhan,

Rashad Hussain,

Keith Ellison,

Huma Abedin

Muhammad Abdul Bari,

Sayeeda Warsi,

Waqar Azmi,

Sajid Javid,

Ajmal Masroor
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X Posted from the “Indian Foreign Policy” thread.

Excerpt from the final communique of the OIC meet dealing with Jammu & Kashmir shows yet another misstep regards the Islamic Republic of Pakistan by the BJP led Government of our Prime Minister Narendra Modi:
FINAL COMMUNIQUE OF THE 13TH ISLAMIC SUMMIT OF THE HEADS OF STATE/GOVERNMENT OF THE OIC MEMBER STATES

Date: 15/04/2016

21. The Conference reaffirmed its principled support forthe people of Jammu and Kashmir for the realization of their legitimate right to self-determination, in accordance with relevant UN resolutions and aspirations of the people of Jammu and Kashmir. It further reaffirmed that Jammu and Kashmir is the core dispute between Pakistan and India and its resolution is indispensable for bringing peace in South Asia.

22. The Conference called on India to implement numerous UN resolutions on Kashmir which declare that the final disposition of the State of Jammu and Kashmir would be made in accordance with the will of the people expressed through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite conducted under the auspices of the United Nations. It further reminded the international community of its obligation to ensure implementation of UN resolutions on Kashmir and fulfill the promise made with the people of Jammu and Kashmir 68 year ago.

23. The Conference affirmed its support to the wide-spread indigenous movement of the people of the Indian Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IOK) for their right to self-determination. It urged that freedom struggle must not be equated with terrorism.

24. The Conference expressed concern at the indiscriminate use of force and gross violations of human rights committed in IOK by Indian security forces which have resulted in killing thousands of innocent and unarmed civilians as well as injuring hundreds of others including women, children and elderly, most recently the killing of a 22 year old woman, Ms. Shaista Hameed in Pulwama on 14 February 2016.

25. The Conference welcomed the establishment of a standing mechanism by the OIC Independent Permanent Human Rights Commission (IPHRC) for monitoring the human rights situation in the Indian Occupied Jammu and Kashmir. The Conference called upon India to allow the OIC Fact Finding Mission and the international human rights groups and humanitarian organizations to visit IOK. The Conference endorsed the recommendations of the OIC Contact Group on Jammu and Kashmir. It took note of the Memorandum presented by the True Representatives of the Kashmiri People to the Contact Group at its recent meeting.

26. The Conference called on the Islamic Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization (ISESCO) and the Research Center for Islamic History, Art and Culture (IRCICA) to undertake activities to protect holy sites in Kashmir and preserve cultural rights and Islamic heritage. The Conference appealed to the Member States and Muslim institutions to grant scholarships to the Kashmiri students in deferent universities and institutions in OIC countries.

OIC declaration on Jammu & Kashmir proves former Ambassador M.K.Bhadra Kumar was right when he dismissed the agreement on terrorism between India and Saudi Arabia concluded earlier this month as being about Iran rather than the Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s and BJP Party’s spin that it targeted the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Very disappointing that the Saudi’s have certainly befooled our Prime Minister at the minimal cost of granting a civilian award. Then off course there is the separate but related matter of the counter-terrorism agreement with the UAE which once again was touted as a major success against the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:
A second outcome of Modi’s Saudi visit, duly highlighted by our spin doctors, is that the two countries are entering an unprecedented level of cooperation and coordination in the security field in the fight against terrorism. The joint statement devoted four paragraphs to it.

However, a dark cloud has appeared on the horizon in no time, with a Saudi official claiming that they read the joint statement largely as aimed at Iran, which, they believe is fostering terrorism in the region. Of course, our security czars had assumed that Modi brilliantly secured Saudi Arabia’s support in controlling Pakistani state sponsorship of terrorism.

In fact, the Pakistani coverage of Modi’s Saudi visit confirms an impression that Salman may have used Modi’s shoulder to take a pot-shot at the Iranians. Perhaps, that explains why Salman felt so obliged to Modi as to confer the Abdulaziz Sash, our PM’s controversial reputation on the Arab Street as the “butcher of Gujarat” notwithstanding.

Unsurprisingly, adrenaline began flowing in the Saudi veins and they have since imposed new measures against Iran by closing the Saudi air space to Iranian civilian flights and prohibiting tankers carrying Iranian crude from transiting Saudi waters (external links here and here).


Salman probably concluded that with Modi on his side, Iran’s regional “isolation” is now complete. Indeed, the Saudis have offered to Modi that they can replace Iran as India’s key energy partner in the region. They are paranoid about the prospect of an imminent reset of India-Iran ties.

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OIC communiques supports Mohammadden inability to coexist with people of other religions in various countries of the world. These countries and religions besides Hindu majority India include, Christist majority Greece (Turkic Mohammaddens in Western Thrace and Dodecanese), Christist majority Cyrprus (Turkic Mohammaddens)Christist majority Russia (Re: Mohammadden Crimean Tartar problem), Christist majority former Yugoslavia (Kosovo, Bosnia, Herzegovina), Buddhist majority Myanmar (Mohammadden Bangladeshi Rohingyas illegal migrants ), Buddhist majority Thailand ( Mohammaddens in S.Thailand), Christist majority Philippines (Mohammadden Bangsamoro).

The Peoples Republic of China on the other hand somehow finds no mention in the OIC communique notwithstanding suppressing the Mohammadden Uighur's of Xinjiang.

Meanwhile the OIC takes on an overtly Sunni Mohammadden sectarian agenda and tears into fellow Shia Mohammadden Iran:
30. The Conference stressed the need for the cooperative relations between Islamic States and the Islamic Republic of Iran to be based on the principle of good-neighborliness, non-interference in their domestic affairs, respect for their independence and territorial sovereignty, resolving differences by peaceful means in accordance with the OIC and the UN charters and the principles of international law, and refraining from the use or threat of force.

31. The Conference condemned the aggressions against the missions of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in Tehran and Mashhad in Iran, which constitute a flagrant violation of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, and international law which guarantees the inviolability of diplomatic missions.

32. The Conference rejected Iran’s inflammatory statements on the execution of judicial decisions against the perpetrators of terrorist crimes in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, considering those statements a blatant interference in the internal affairs of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and a contravention of the United Nations Charter, the OIC Charter and of all international covenants.

33. The Conference deplored Iran’s interference in the internal affairs of the States of the region and other Member States including Bahrain, Yemen, Syria, and Somalia, and its continued support for terrorism.
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FINAL COMMUNIQUE OF THE 13TH ISLAMIC SUMMIT OF THE HEADS OF STATE/GOVERNMENT OF THE OIC MEMBER STATES
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That rediff article by the traitorous commie Bhadrakumar is not worth wiping anything with. Pure spin. "Butcher of Gujarat" on "the Arab Street" indeed! I want to know which "Arab street" this monkey has swung through of late, polling opinions on the prime minister to come to that broad conclusion. The facts on the ground fly in the face of everything virtually he's written, exposing his political bias like a retired tart's knickers, while his analysis has proven time and again to be about as transparently frayed and desperately clinging to an equally desperate clientele's tired approval.

The OIC, for its part, has been told by MEA to refrain from such nonsense in future, in an official statement.
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Saudi confirms 'genuine' $681M donation to Malaysian PM

Example of Saudi Money Diplomacy; wonder what the "genuine quid pro quo is": some ideas here:
"Import" of more Wahabi preachers from Saudia
"Export" of more Malaysian maids to Saudia for the pleasure of the Saudi Male
"Construction" of more Wahabi masjids with the funds "donated"
Introduction and Implementation of more " Sharia "
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JE Menon wrote:That rediff article by the traitorous commie Bhadrakumar is not worth wiping anything with. Pure spin. "Butcher of Gujarat" on "the Arab Street" indeed! I want to know which "Arab street" this monkey has swung through of late, polling opinions on the prime minister to come to that broad conclusion. The facts on the ground fly in the face of everything virtually he's written, exposing his political bias like a retired tart's knickers, while his analysis has proven time and again to be about as transparently frayed and desperately clinging to an equally desperate clientele's tired approval.

The OIC, for its part, has been told by MEA to refrain from such nonsense in future, in an official statement.
Unsurprisingly, the language is from the same template littered across Paki newspapers, blogs, TV programmes etc after Modi's visit.

I wonder why so much khujli?
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JE Menon wrote:That rediff article by the traitorous commie Bhadrakumar is not worth wiping anything with. Pure spin. "Butcher of Gujarat" on "the Arab Street" i....
Note MKB is careful to put the offending term in quotes. Plausible deniability (You might say that but I couldn't possibly comment) but dripping in the poison. Vipers lurking in our bosom, nurtured in our own educational system.
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JE Menon wrote:That rediff article by the traitorous commie Bhadrakumar is not worth wiping anything with. Pure spin. "Butcher of Gujarat" on "the Arab Street" indeed! I want to know which "Arab street" this monkey has swung through of late, polling opinions on the prime minister to come to that broad conclusion. The facts on the ground fly in the face of everything virtually he's written, exposing his political bias like a retired tart's knickers, while his analysis has proven time and again to be about as transparently frayed and desperately clinging to an equally desperate clientele's tired approval.

The OIC, for its part, has been told by MEA to refrain from such nonsense in future, in an official statement.
Bhadrakumar, I was told by a Malyali friend, is from a Dalit sub-caste. One has to admit that he is a clever man, even though a commie. I was also told that even in the soft-leftist coterie of the IFS, he was considered too radical and someone who is besotted with China. Therefore he never rose in the service beyond a string of second-level ambassadorships. Unlike his senior IFS officer, ex-President Narayanan, also a Dalit from Kerala, who was more of an establishment man and became a Union Minister and then President of India.
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ranjbe wrote:
JE Menon wrote:That rediff article by the traitorous commie Bhadrakumar is not worth wiping anything with. Pure spin. "Butcher of Gujarat" on "the Arab Street" indeed! I want to know which "Arab street" this monkey has swung through of late, polling opinions on the prime minister to come to that broad conclusion. The facts on the ground fly in the face of everything virtually he's written, exposing his political bias like a retired tart's knickers, while his analysis has proven time and again to be about as transparently frayed and desperately clinging to an equally desperate clientele's tired approval.

The OIC, for its part, has been told by MEA to refrain from such nonsense in future, in an official statement.
Bhadrakumar, I was told by a Malyali friend, is from a Dalit sub-caste. One has to admit that he is a clever man, even though a commie. I was also told that even in the soft-leftist coterie of the IFS, he was considered too radical and someone who is besotted with China. Therefore he never rose in the service beyond a string of second-level ambassadorships. Unlike his senior IFS officer, ex-President Narayanan, also a Dalit from Kerala, who was more of an establishment man and became a Union Minister and then President of India.
Narayanan was nothing great, either as diplomat or as a president. He knew how to game the system and adroitly side step political landmines using his "caste" card. I had a none too pleasant interaction with the whole family when, unfortunately, I was assigned to assist them during one of their free loading trips to cochin.

I got the strong impression that he was a crypto.

Bhadrakumar, is all vile bile because of his imagined slights in his career and the feeling that he was not given his due. For sure, he thinks that he too is president material but thwarted by "forces" inimical to him. What these forces are, he is letting everyone know through his "writings".
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China Shields Masood Azhar And Betrays India In Fight Against Terror
One of the worlds’s most cited philosophers , Noam Chomsky once said, “Everybody is worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there is a really easy way: Stop participating in it.” This is a simple phrase but with loaded meaning telling us about the lies, prejudices and falsehood in the nation’s approach towards dealing with the scourge of terrorism, the biggest menace of our times.
This can be better illustrated as a case in point when Masood Azhar, the Jaish e Mohammad (JeM) Chief, got a big diplomatic support from China. The neighbouring country blocked India’s bid at the United Nations (UN) on banning the chief of JeM.
India’s contention was based on the submission made for consideration by Counter Terrorism Executive Directorate (CTED) for the technical examination of the evidences of Masood Azhar’s direct role in orchestrating terror attacks at Pathankot.
China, however, at the behest of Pakistan, advised the 1267 Sanctions Committee to put on hold the decision of including the name of JeM’s chief maintaining that he does not qualify to be a terrorist.
The number of death because of terrorist attacks worldwide rose from 3329 in the year 2002 to 32685 the year 2014. Out of total lives lost in 2014, about 78% counted for in the five countries alone i.e. Iraq, Nigeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Syria.
The UN has no internationally-agreed definition of terrorism. Although work began on a draft comprehensive convention on international terrorism by the end of 2000, the definitional impasse has prevented its adoption. The prime reason is the standoff with the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC).
Not surprising ; the ultimate aim of converting all countries from Darul- Harb to Darul Islam !
The divided international community begets a huge advantage for the terrorist outfits as practically every such terrorist organizations has one or more countries extending covert or overt support to them.
The world is terrified seeing the horror perpetrated by the Islamic State but the world is also aware that it is getting active support and funding from Turkey, Saudi Arabia and many other fundamentalist Sunni Muslim States of that region. Russia supports Ukrainian rebels and America supports Syrians rebels.
Many western arms manufacturing countries find a huge market in supplying armaments, missiles and explosives to terrorist organizations. It is said that Islamic State alone has a two billion dollar war chest. Understandably this money will travel to the developed countries which manufacture military hardware and logistics.
Recently Turkey ordered thousands of Toyota vehicles to Japan. These vehicles are required by Islamic States and not by Turkey which is just a conduit in this business deal. Toyota Company fully aware that these vehicles are meant for Islamic States has no qualms about selling their vehicles to the Islamic State. Many shipping companies are earning huge profit in marketing the Syrian purloined crude oil through their tankers worldwide.
The international oil market could keep the prices of crude consistently low because of the availability of illegal supply of crude oil at a cheaper price by the Islamic State.
Germany’s international broadcaster Deutsche Welle (DW) published a report from a major western media outlet illustrating that ISIS is supplied not by “black market oil” or “hostage ransoms” but billions of dollars worth of supplies carried into Syria across NATO member Turkey’s borders via hundreds of trucks a day.
The political economy of terrorism benefits many countries. Islamic States’ supply lines run precisely where Syrian and Iraqi air power cannot go. It goes to the north and into NATO-member Turkey, and to the southwest into US allies Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Beyond these borders exists a logistical network that spans a region including both Eastern Europe and North Africa.
Terrorists and weapons left over from NATO’s intervention in Libya in 2011 were promptly sent to Turkey and then onto Syria – coordinated by US State Department officials and intelligence agencies in Benghazi – a terrorist hotbed for decades.
The average Amreeki six pack Joe, blissfully unaware of all this !
The New York Times reported in 2013 in their article, “Arms Airlift to Syria Rebels Expands, With Aid From C.I.A.,” says that from offices at secret locations, American intelligence officers have helped the Arab governments shop for weapons, including a large procurement from Croatia, and have vetted rebel commanders and groups to determine who should receive the weapons as they arrive, according to American officials speaking on the condition of anonymity”.
Similar tactics implemented in the Afghan civil war with devastating results for the whole world !
The recent terrorist attacks in Paris and Brussels forebodes the extension of the span of terrorism from a regional to a global scale. No country is now immune from terrorist attacks. This should be sufficient for the big powers to internalize the horrors of terrorism, come out of their paranoiac diplomacy and to join ‘the war of terrorism’ and this includes China.
China is indeed playing a double game ; ruthlessly suppressing Muslim dissent in its North Western China and then "encouraging" Pakistani mischief for the purpose of playing geo-politics!
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Belgian minister says many Muslims 'danced' after attacks

Belgian Interior Minister Jan Jambon said Saturday that a "significant" part of the Muslim population celebrated attacks, blaming the country's policies for failing to integrate migrants into society.

He did not explicitly refer to last month's jihadist attacks on Brussels' airport and metro system that killed 32 people

"A significant section of the Muslim community danced when attacks took place," Jambon said in an interview with the Flemish-language De Standaard newspaper.

The Belgian minister also accused Muslim residents of Brussels' largely immigrant Molenbeek neighbourhood of attacking police during an operation last month to arrest a suspect in connection with the deadly attacks in Paris last November.

"They threw stones and bottles at police and press during the arrest of Salah Abdeslam. This is the real problem. Terrorists we can pick up, remove from society. But they are just a boil. Underneath is a cancer that is much more difficult to treat. We can do it, but it won't be overnight," he said.

Jambon, whose New Flemish Alliance party has been a key part of Belgium's ruling centre-right coalition since 2014, previously offered to resign in the wake of the Brussels attacks.

In Saturday's interview he said that the danger linked to the radicalisation of youth from third and fourth generation families is "too deeply rooted" in some areas because Belgium "have for many years ignored the warning signs".

Following the November 13 attacks in neighbouring France, Jambon sparked controversy when he promised to "clean Molenbeek" when it emerged that several of the attackers had links to the impoverished district of the Belgian capital.
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Chandragupta wrote:It is around 16-18% of the current Indian population. Don't scare people pls. :((
Suuure it is...
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