Eastern Europe/Ukraine [Feb 6th 2015]

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Choco army crumbling?

https://www.rt.com/news/268828-kiev-off ... fects-dpr/
Member of Kiev's top brass ‘defects’ to anti-govt forces, predicts more like him
Published time: 22 Jun, 2015
A man claiming to be a Ukrainian major general and former assistant to the country's defense minister has announced he is now working with the forces of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic.

"I am Ukrainian Armed Forces Major General Aleksandr Kolomiyets. My latest posts are chief analyst of the Ukrainian armed forces, assistant to the Ukrainian defense minister," the man said at a news conference at the Donetsk news agency loyal to the self-proclaimed republic. Kolomiyets had also spent 19 years as the chief enlistment officer in the Donetsk region.

"I am going to work for the good of the Donetsk People's Republic," Kolomiyets (not to be confused with oligarch Igor Kolomoysky) announced.

READ MORE: Ukraine’s Right Sector rejects Minsk deal, calls for renewed offensive in E. Ukraine

The defector says he took his family out of the Ukrainian capital, fearing repercussions from officials.

He also claims a lot of people in the Ukrainian military want to switch to the self-proclaimed republics' side, including officers. According to Kolomiyets, hundreds have already abandoned Kiev.

"Look at who is actually fighting. Only the volunteers from nationalist squads,"
the defector said at the news conference.

There is growing dissatisfaction with the commanders, Kolomiyets said. "Soon, there is going to be unrest within the military. They do not understand the orders they are given, to kill civilians. We are going to see that by autumn, everything will change."

READ MORE: Blitzkrieg turned mayhem: Hacktivists claim they reveal Ukrainian troops’ annihilation

He added that morale is very low in the Ukrainian army: "All the officers, the generals that understand the criminal nature of the authorities' actions, do not want to fight."

Meanwhile, the press secretary of Ukraine's General Staff has told Ukrainskaya Pravda newspaper that Kolomiyets was fired from the army in 2012 due to incompetence. "He could not handle the post of the army's top analyst," the newspaper quoted the press secretary as saying. "Besides, he traveled to Russia as a private [individual]. Military men are supposed to inform their commanders about such visits, but he broke the rules."

Kolomiyets, if it is him, is not the first Ukrainian official to have switched sides in the conflict that has been tearing the country apart for over a year now. Previous defections include the head of the Lugansk customs office, an officer of the Ukrainian foreign intelligence office and a member of staff of the Ukrainian embassy in France.
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Just reflecting on their conclusions. The type and make of missile warhead doesn't impress me - they can just give the make and model by looking on Wikipedia, on what missile is fired by the Buk system.

I also buy their conclusion that the 3 ppl in the cockpit died instantly due to structural damage to the cockpit at Mach 0.85.

But WHY did the SAM explode "to the left and forward of the cockpit"? Is the Buk heat-seeking, in which case it should have headed for the engines? Did it meet the airplane head-on? Seems strange, suggesting that the missile was launched when the plane was still far from the missile site and coming towards the site, hain?

So the report actually strengthens the idea that the plane was hit by cannon fire from the front, courtesy of an UkBapZi Su-24.
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Desi lifafas faithfully report the NATO report

So this 'explosion' didn't blow in the front windshield? IMO if u rip the pressure shell open at the front with an explosion, going at Mach 0.8, the whole front would have peeled back and the cockpit would look absolutely crushed like a Coke can, even b4 the damage of hitting the ground. Look at Aloha Airlines B737 roof after in-flight structural failure. This is NOTHING like that, it essentially suggests that the cockpit was hit with bullets like the Russians said.

No reason to have faith in any of these Oiropean Investigating Boards any more - they are all competing to be Volkswagen executives, it appears. Sad.
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ukraine not able to pay $3b rus debt...so demands $1 trillion for donbass and crimea
https://www.rt.com/business/318730-ukra ... le-russia/
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... 7s.svg.png

map of europe by credit rating, note how bartania is always soothing deep green.

ukraine is now in default grade, below the junk
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UlanBatori wrote:Just reflecting on their conclusions. The type and make of missile warhead doesn't impress me - they can just give the make and model by looking on Wikipedia, on what missile is fired by the Buk system.

I also buy their conclusion that the 3 ppl in the cockpit died instantly due to structural damage to the cockpit at Mach 0.85.

But WHY did the SAM explode "to the left and forward of the cockpit"? Is the Buk heat-seeking, in which case it should have headed for the engines? Did it meet the airplane head-on? Seems strange, suggesting that the missile was launched when the plane was still far from the missile site and coming towards the site, hain?

So the report actually strengthens the idea that the plane was hit by cannon fire from the front, courtesy of an UkBapZi Su-24.
Buk is radar-guided, so depending on your luck it could hit the target aircraft just about anywhere.
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The MH-17 investigation is a load of "Buk"! Rather one-sided,but it does throw up the first point,that civil airliners should've been banned from the conflict airspace.Once you have established that glaring omission,it matters little as to who shot the aircraft down,whether it was accidental or deliberate in a zone where there had been several air losses. Several UKR aircraft and helicopters were shot down by the rebels.It was therefore crass stupidity to allow civil airliners to continue to fly over the UKR.

One intriguing theory gaining ground in some circles is that it was that it WAS a deliberate attempt to shoot down specifically a Malaysian airliner to add to the international media blitz coming so soon after the missing MH airliner,to place the blame upon Russia and the rebels and also deflect attention from the conspiracy theories about that earlier incident. This has gone up after the recovery of a flap in Reunion island way south-west in the IOR,far away from the search area.
Few now believe the original story pout out by the Malaysians,etc.
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https://www.rt.com/business/318832-russ ... spian-eeu/
Russia and Kazakhstan to share Caspian Sea crude
Published time: 16 Oct, 2015 09:20
Russian President Vladimir Putin and Kazakh counterpart Nursultan Nazarbayev have signed an agreement to jointly develop the northern Caspian Sea oil deposits.

"We [Russia and Kazakhstan] have big plans on joint oil production in the Caspian Sea," said Putin after the meeting, adding that Russia is a transit for Kazakhstan's oil to foreign markets.

Presidential aide Yuri Ushakov said the document regulated oil production at the Tsentralnaya site in the North Caspian Sea.

Putin and Nazarbayev also discussed cooperation between the countries within the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU).

Putin said the economies of both Russia and Kazakhstan are experiencing difficult times, but trade between the two countries is growing in ruble terms. According to Putin, more than 6,000 Russian companies are working in Kazakhstan.

Nazarbayev said Russia remains a close and reliable neighbor and the EEU is gaining recognition globally.

The EEU is a Russia-led trade bloc established in 2015 on the basis of the Customs Union of Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus. It currently has five members: Russia, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, while Tajikistan is a prospective member.

The EEU ensures free movement of goods and services, capital and labor, as well as a coordinated, coherent and unified economic policy for its members.
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Uncle "Joe" is back! Talk about Uncle Sam,this is what is appearing in the Donetsk region of the erstwhile UKR.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/o ... -territory
Stalin portraits emerge in heart of Ukraine's rebel-held territory

Soviet nostalgia rules as images of the former dictator go on display in the centre of Donetsk, the rebel capital of eastern Ukraine once called Stalino
People walk past a portrait of Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin in the centre of Donetsk, the main city held by pro-Russian rebels in eastern Ukraine.
Agence France-Presse

Monday 19 October 2015 05.47 BST
Three portraits of the former Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin are on display in the centre of Donetsk, the rebel capital of eastern Ukraine, as the separatist authorities fuel a mood of Soviet nostalgia.

The Stalin portraits have been placed in the main square and feature a quote from the wartime leader: “Our cause is just. The enemy will be routed. We will claim victory.”

The previously taboo display comes as the rebels revive Soviet customs to cement their Moscow-backed rule – while glossing over Stalin’s atrocities.

The portraits went down well with one young woman walking past. “I think the portraits of Stalin are a good thing. It’s our history and a lot of people have forgotten he even existed,” said Yekaterina, a 22-year-old student.
Georgia's Stalin museum gives Soviet version of dictator's life story
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The horrors of Stalin’s repressions and the deaths of up to five million Ukrainians in the 1930s due to famine caused by forced collectivisation go unmentioned.

The Donetsk rebel leader, Alexander Zakharchenko, said how he regretted the break-up of the Soviet Union.

“The Soviet Union was a great country and it was a huge mistake that it was destroyed by the CIA and other secret services,” said the 39-year-old former field commander who prefers to dress in camouflage gear. “Europe and other countries were scared stiff of us.”

Stalin portraits have become de rigueur in the offices of rebel officials in eastern Ukraine, where the separatist conflict has killed more than 8,000 people.

The Donetsk rebels’ deputy defence minister, Eduard Basurin, wears a badge with Stalin’s profile on his uniform.

This new cult of Stalin revives the memories in Donetsk, a coal-mining city that was formerly known as Stalino.

It was renamed in the early 1960s after Nikita Khrushchev, who emerged as Soviet leader in the power struggle that followed Stalin’s death, condemned his predecessor’s cult of personality.

Such reverence for Stalin contrasts with the attitude of Kiev’s pro-western government, which in May passed laws making it illegal to display Soviet symbols, as it does Nazi swastikas. The law calls for the pulling down of monuments as well as renaming of streets, towns and enterprises that carry Soviet names.

Across Ukraine, the authorities have already pulled down numerous statues of Lenin, much to the rebel leaders’ disgust.

The Donetsk rebels’ culture minister, Alexander Paretsky, condemned “vandalism and barbarism” while the leader of the Luhansk rebel region, Igor Plotnitsky, warned of a “moral genocide”.

One of three Stalin portraits in the centre of Donetsk. Photograph: Alexey Filippov/AFP/Getty Images

In the town of Novoazovsk on the Azov sea, the rebels ceremonially restored a Lenin statue to its pedestal after taking control from Ukrainian forces.

In forging a new identity for the separatist region, the rebels have largely turned to the Soviet past.

Their territories are called “people’s republics”, echoing the Soviet-era names of Communist satellites such as Bulgaria, Mongolia and Romania.

Luhansk People’s Republic has a new emblem featuring sheafs of corn and a red star, like those of the USSR’s republics.

The rebels are even attempting to revive the Soviet-era Young Pioneer youth group, a kind of socialist Scouts.

In a more sinister move, the rebels named their security organ the Ministry of State Security or MGB, the same as Stalin’s secret police from 1946 to 1953.

Their justice system is also modelled on the Soviet system, where the defendant had little chance of acquittal. “It’s the Soviet model of the prosecutor’s office that we adopted in Donetsk,” said Andrei Spivak, the official charged with overhauling the system.

Also in Donetsk, an exhibition of paintings pays tribute to Soviet hero “shock worker” Alexei Stakhanov, who achieved record coal production levels at a mine in the Luhansk region in the 1930s.

Historians now see Stakhanov’s feats as carefully choreographed by the authorities as a propaganda tactic to push up norms.

Admiring the paintings of miners and factory workers, Galina, a 73-year-old, recalled a rose-tinted past. “Things were better back then. It was a totally different life,” she said.

But such idealisation of the Soviet era by the authorities comes with a denial of anything that spoils the rosy image. In August, the Donetsk rebel authorities decided to pull down a monument to victims of the 1930s famine in Ukraine.

And Donetsk State University removed a monument to Ukrainian dissident Vasyl Stus, a poet and campaigner for national culture, who spent decades in jail and died in a prison camp in 1985 at the age of 47.

“That was a criminal act,” said Maria, a pensioner – but her view seemed to be shared by few.
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Project Oo-krane on a phast track..

September 2015 (Selective Default)
Standard & Poor's cuts Ukraine's rating to 'selective default'

October 2015 (Selective Default to B-) :shock:
Rating raised to B- by S&P on debt exchange, reform plan



Compare this to Greece

Dec. 2012 (Selective Default)
Greece Downgraded to 'Selective Default' by S&P

July 2015 (SD -> CCC- then CCC+)
S&P upgrades Greece to CCC+, outlook stable

Yes-and-Pee is truly an "independent" rating agency :rotfl:
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Poland's election should give a sharp prick to backside of the EU conspirators,who have tried to usrp all former E.European states into the EU/NATO fold,which was responsible for the UKR crisis.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... oland.html
The EU elite should listen to Poland
Telegraph View: The Polish election is another rejection of the centralising EU project
Conservative Law and Justice candidate for the Prime Minister Beata Szydlo speaks during the general election in Poland at the party's headquarters in Warsaw Photo: AP

By Telegraph View
27 Oct 2015

Poland deserves more attention in Britain – and not just because so many Polish people live and work in this country. Since David Cameron is seeking to change Britain’s EU membership, the balance of power and opinion in a significant member like Poland matters.

The victory of Poland’s Law and Justice Party is not an unqualified positive for Mr Cameron, since the party is strongly committed to EU rules that allow some of our Polish visitors to claim British benefits for children who have never set foot in this country, an unacceptable situation Mr Cameron has rightly promised to end.

But the wider message of the election is welcome, because of what it reveals about Poland’s attitude to the centralising European Franco-German “project”. The EU recently forced Poland to accept a quota of Syrian refugees, something firmly against the wishes of the Polish people, who have now dismissed the government which accepted that quota. Poles want a government driven by Poland’s national interest, not a supranational project designed in Paris, Berlin and Brussels. Law and Justice is also understandably cool on joining the euro and rightly concerned that eurozone nations should not dictate to those with the good sense to retain their own currencies.

Poland’s election has put another nail in the coffin of the misguided notion of an “ever-closer union” for all the EU’s members. It signals a growing appetite for a multi-speed Europe where members can participate in – or abstain from – the programmes and policies that suit them, without pressure to integrate. Such flexibility is surely required if Britain is to remain a member. The EU establishment should listen to the Poles.
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Europe has worked itself nicely in a position where people laugh at it.

http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-suffe ... sanctions/
EU suffers major court defeat on Ukraine sanctions.
Judges rule that putting Andriy Portnov on blacklist was based on flimsy accusations.
The Council “has relied solely on information from the Ukrainian Prosecutor General with no transparency, no evidence, no hearings, no due process, no presumption of innocence,” said Klymenko. He accused EU governments of “lending a hand to the political-cleansing of Ukraine by the current administration.”
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Some anti Poroshenko fellow seems to have won the Odessa mayor elections. Police have moved into the election offices. They are calling their own elections fraud. :eek:

http://tass.ru/en/world/832302

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/10/27/rev ... elections/
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Appears to be Ukraine's Ojhari Camp event:

Huge blasts echo in Ukraine's Lugansk region as ammunition warehouses catch alight - Oct 29, 2015
Around 300 square meters of warehouses are reportedly on fire, a local official said, adding that over 3.5 tons of ammunition were being stored on site.

“Shell fragments are bursting near the scene [of explosion] right in the town, a shop building has been hit. Unfortunately, there is information that one of the shop employees has been killed,” deputy head of the Lugansk regional administration, Yury Klimenko, told Ukraine’s 112 UA channel. There is no information on any further casualties, the official added.

The area is located in Kiev-controlled territories.

The exploding shells made it more difficult to deal with the blaze, Klimenko said, adding that an emergency operations center had been established.

At the same time, Ukraine's presidential representative in the eastern Donbass region, Aleksandr Motuzyanik, told the channel "locals were not in danger," and denied reports of casualties, saying that no one had been hurt. He added that Kiev military officials were working at the scene.

Videos have emerged online, showing a massive fire and bright red and orange glow, with blasts echoing from far away.

Mobile communication was not working in the area, and power outages were reported in nearby villages, 112 UA reported locals as saying.

Locals have been hiding in basements. "People are so scared ... when we were going into the basement, it could be seen that the fire was within the city territory," 112 UA's correspondent reported.
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Lugansk is so east and yet controlled by Kiev forces?
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According to below map and status as of Feb2015 (peepeesee source), Svatove town of Lugansk province should fall in govt control land so the RT report seems to be correct.

Ukraine crisis in maps

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More than 30 homes damaged as a result of military depot fire in Lugansk region - Oct 30, 2015
KIEV, October 30. /TASS/. More than 30 residential buildings have been damaged by fire and dispersion of shell fragments from a burning military ammunition depot in the Svatovo city of Ukraine’s Lugansk region, deputy head of the Lugansk military and civil administration Yuri Klimenko said on Friday.
"Nine five-storey houses, six four-storey and 20 three-storey apartment buildings have been damaged in the city," the Gromadske.TV channel quoted him as saying. A forest fire started in Svatovo suburbs, on the city’s eastern outskirts.

"One of the shells fell on railway tracks 24 kilometres from Svatovo towards Kharkov. The traffic there was suspended," the TV channel reported. To ensure safety in the area, the policemen and military set up posts at the entrances to the city blocking access there to motor vehicles.
Earlier reports suggested that about 3,5000 tonnes {????. earlier report posted above mentions 3.5 tons } of ammunition for the multiple launch rocket systems [MLRS] Grad, Smerch and Uragan were stored in the depot. The fire area in the military facility territory alone is about 9,000 square metres.

According to the city mayor Yevgeny Rybalko, two dead and four injured have been reported so far. "A woman - shop assistant, was killed by a shell fragment. A man was also killed. Four people have been injured. There is a soldier under the debris in the base, he is alive, but rescuers cannot reach him," he said.
The law enforcement agencies are considering a terrorist attack as the main version of the incident. According to the head of Lugansk military and civil administration, Georgy Tuka, the fire started as a result of a flare pistol shot. "According to preliminary data, there were two shots from a flare pistol. While the efforts to extinguish the first flare were underway, another shot was made that caused the depot fire," he said.
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Explaining Minsk deal and the issues therein.

http://www.russia-direct.org/opinion/po ... ns-ukraine
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http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-el ... 38295.html
Security forces in Ukraine have arrested Hennadiy Korban, who ran unsuccessfully for mayor of Kyiv last month.
Officials say Korban, who is the head of the UKROP party and who is a close associate of former Dnipropetrovsk Governor and oligarch Ihor Kolomoyskiy, was arrested in Dnipropetrovsk on October 31 on suspicion of participating in an organized crime group.
http://uatoday.tv/news/ukrop-to-appeal- ... 24933.html
Ukraine's political party Ukrainian Union of Patriots - UKROP will appeal to the European Court for Human Rights (ECHR) in connection with the detention of its leader, Hennadiy Korban, according to Denys Borysenko, the party member.

http://agenda.ge/news/45495/eng
Tbilisi has officially sent a letter of protest to Ukrainian officials in Kiev denouncing the fact Georgia's ex-president and current Odessa Governor Mikheil Saakashvili encouraged an alleged coup in Georgia.
Revolution is what Saakashvili was talking about actually. :wink:

And after the revolution -
http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/internati ... nomic-woes
The value of Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko's assets soared despite economic crisis and conflict while those of other tycoons shrank in an annual wealth list published Friday.
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Nothing to cause huge alarm but there was a tiny, winy, explosion at a Belgian Nuke plant - Nov 01, 2015
The source said there was no threat of radioactive contamination following the explosion.
Lugansk's arms depot fire in the Keiv controlled territory is not only fresh in memory but is still on going. Earlier estimate of 3.5 tonnes does not make sense (hardly a truck load). So, 3500 tonnes which was later reported appears to be correct. That is a massive amount so this winter season will be extremely chilly in Ukraine.
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Poland Worried It's Been Outplayed & Outmaneuvered by Russian Energy Giant - Nov 01, 2015
With Russia and Germany moving steadily toward an agreement on the construction of the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline, aimed at pumping 55 billion cubic meters of gas straight to Germany via the Baltic Sea, Polish leaders and analysts are concerned that their country has been outmaneuvered and outplayed by Russian energy giant Gazprom.

In September, Russian majority state-owned energy company Gazprom signed a shareholders agreement with German, British/Dutch, Austrian and French companies on the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, set to bypass the countries of eastern Europe, including Poland, on its way to northeast Germany via the floor of the Baltic Sea. With pre-construction planning said to be proceeding on schedule, Moscow is now waiting for a decision on the pipeline by the EC and German regulators.

And while the Polish government isn't as hysterically opposed to the new project as it was ahead of the construction of the original Nord Stream pipeline (which former Defense Minister Radoslaw Sikorski then dubbed "the Molotov-Ribbentrop pipeline"), officials nonetheless insist that the pipeline must be stopped at all costs. President Andrzej Duda recently told Hungarian media that Poland would "do everything to stop the additional branches of the pipeline from being built."

Moreover, the Institute of International Affairs, an influential Warsaw-based think tank, recently said that Warsaw must use all its influence in Brussels to stop the project.

Unfortunately, Adam Grzeszak, a journalist and geopolitical analyst over at Polityka, Poland's biggest selling weekly, suggests that the battle has already been lost, and that Russia's agreement with Germany and the Western Europeans seems predestined to become a reality.

"History has a habit of repeating itself," the journalist explained. "Like they did ten years earlier, the Russians have once again come to an agreement with the Germans on the construction of a pipeline along the floor of the Baltic Sea. And all this despite the ongoing conflict in Ukraine [which Germany and most certainly Poland have blamed on Russia], despite the EU's anti-Russian sanctions, and despite the European strategy aimed at limiting its dependence on Russian gas. So this, it seems, is how Europe's 'energy solidarity' looks in practice," Grzeszak lamented.

Commenting on German Vice-Chancellor and Economic Minister Sigmar Gabriel's visit to Moscow last Wednesday, Grzeszak recalled that the official "promised that the German government would do everything possible to ensure that the project was launched on time, and that the European Commission will not set up any obstacles."

Chastising the German politician, Grzeszak noted that "of course, the vice-chancellor understands that effectively doubling the capacity of the Nord Stream pipeline will complicate the situation in the countries of our region –in particular of Ukraine," whose interests the analyst suggests "Russia considers only because the country serves as the main transit route for its gas supplies to Europe. But when the capacity of the Baltic pipeline increases from the present 55 billion cubic meters to 110 billion, the situation will change dramatically, 1:0 in Gazprom's favor."

The analyst recalled how last year, "the Russians had tried to achieve their goal with the help of the South Stream pipeline along the floor of the Black Sea, but the European Commission at that time blocked the initiative. As a result, they are already making plans to pump additional volumes along the northern route. The trick is simple: Russia builds the pipeline up to the German border, and from there the project becomes a German investment, with the Germans taking everything for themselves, suggesting that there is no reason for the EU to intervene."

And so, according to Grzeszak, "despite the doubts which have emerged [from Brussels], Gazprom was able to reach an agreement on the construction of Nord Stream 2 with German partners from E.ON and BASF-Wintershall, the British-Dutch Royal Dutch Shell Group, Austria's OMV and France's Engie. And the Russian achievements don't end there: Gazprom at the same time reached an asset swap agreement with BASF. In exchange for a few Siberian gas fields, the Russians will get a stake in German and Austrian gas storage facilities, facilitating their work in the European market. 2:0 in favor of Gazprom."

Finally, the analyst made note of the fact that the German vice-chancellor's visit to Moscow last week "was the first working visit in a long time conducted by a European politician to the Russian capital. It is not surprising that he was met by President Putin personally, and that the transcript of their negotiations was published on the internet. The Russians are happy, because their period of isolation [from Europe] is coming to the end. The vice-chancellor thanked Putin for finding the time to meet with him despite his busy schedule. In such a context, the statement by Gabriel that North Stream II cannot have a negative impact on the transit of Russian gas through Ukraine sounded pretty pathetic. The Russians, of course, nodded that it wouldn't be. 3:0 in their favor."
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May be related to refugee crisis:

Nov 03, 2015
Poroshenko signs law allowing foreigners to serve in Ukraine armed forces

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has signed a bill into law allowing foreigners to serve on a contract basis in the country’s armed forces. The law “was returned with the president’s signature” on Tuesday to the parliament, according to the Verkhovnaya Rada website. The legislation, passed by MPs on October 6, also allows foreigners and stateless persons to become officers in the military after acquiring Ukrainian citizenship.
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https://www.rt.com/usa/321194-carter-ru ... rld-order/

“Some actors appear intent on eroding these principles and undercutting the international order that helps enforce them… Of course, neither Russia nor China can overturn that order. But both present different challenges for it,” Carter said.

In Europe, Russia has been violating sovereignty in Ukraine and Georgia and actively trying to intimidate the Baltic states. Meanwhile, in Syria, Russia is throwing gasoline on an already dangerous fire, prolonging a civil war that fuels the very extremism Russia claims to oppose,” was the US Defense Secretary’s assessment of the role Russia has played in the two world regions.
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Austin wrote:https://www.rt.com/usa/321194-carter-ru ... rld-order/

“Some actors appear intent on eroding these principles and undercutting the international order that helps enforce them… Of course, neither Russia nor China can overturn that order. But both present different challenges for it,” Carter said.

In Europe, Russia has been violating sovereignty in Ukraine and Georgia and actively trying to intimidate the Baltic states. Meanwhile, in Syria, Russia is throwing gasoline on an already dangerous fire, prolonging a civil war that fuels the very extremism Russia claims to oppose,” was the US Defense Secretary’s assessment of the role Russia has played in the two world regions.
The hypocrisy beggars belief. What's scary is how many people continue to buy into it.

The US, thanks to its unholy alliance with the Sunni bloc (Saudi\Pak\Turkey\etc) is the single biggest threat to world peace that exists today. Far, far more dangerous than China in the long run. The Chinese, after all, seek only regional hegemony. The US simply wants to ignite the entire world (save it's handful of poodles Britain\Saudi\Pak\etc). The only objective is chaos and death on a massive scale, to feed its endlessly hungry military industrial complex and perpetuate its financial stranglehold on the world, by keeping everyone too imbalanced to form any kind of organized alternative.
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Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania offering its paki services...
Baltic states come up with fresh demands Russia should pay for "Soviet occupation"
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xposting from Levant thread:
On Nov 03, 2015 there was following US senate hearing held:

Putin's Invasion of Ukraine and the Propaganda that Threatens Europe - - Nov 03, 2015

Most of that discussion was focused on RT.com and its propaganda ability. Below is RT's take of it.

On Nov 06, 57 year old rt.com ceo (and Putin's ex-media chief), Mikhail Lesin, died in Washington DC :roll:. I am sure people will advise us not to indulge in CT that he was called for senate hearing on friendly terms and got bumped off :shock:

US Senate committee spends two hours discussing 'Russian propaganda' threat < link to video>

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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... ay-for-war
The demonisation of Russia risks paving the way for war
Seumas Milne

Politicians and the media are using Vladimir Putin and Ukraine to justify military expansionism. It’s dangerous folly
On the ground, it has meant the rise of Ukrainian fascist militias such as the Azov battalion, now preparing to ‘defend’ Mariupol from its own people. Photograph: Alexander Khudoteply/AFP

Wednesday 4 March 2015 20.02 GMT

A quarter of a century after the end of the cold war, the “Russian threat” is unmistakably back. Vladimir Putin, Britain’s defence secretary Michael Fallon declares, is as great a danger to Europe as “Islamic State”. There may be no ideological confrontation, and Russia may be a shadow of its Soviet predecessor, but the anti-Russian drumbeat has now reached fever pitch.

And much more than in Soviet times, the campaign is personal. It’s all about Putin. The Russian president is an expansionist dictator who has launched a “shameless aggression”. He is the epitome of “political depravity”, “carving up” his neighbours as he crushes dissent at home, and routinely is compared to Hitler. Putin has now become a cartoon villain and Russia the target of almost uniformly belligerent propaganda across the western media. Anyone who questions the dominant narrative on Ukraine – from last year’s overthrow of the elected president and the role of Ukrainian far right to war crimes carried out by Kiev’s forces – is dismissed as a Kremlin dupe.
Ukraine has ignored the far right for too long – it must wake up to the danger
Volodymyr Ishchenko
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That has been ratcheted up still further with the murder of the opposition politician Boris Nemtsov. The Russian president has, of course, been blamed for the killing, though that makes little sense. Nemtsov was a marginal figure whose role in the “catastroika” of the 1990s scarcely endeared him to ordinary Russians. Responsibility for an outrage that exposed the lack of security in the heart of Moscow and was certain to damage the president hardly seems likely to lie with Putin or his supporters.

But it’s certainly grist to the mill of those pushing military confrontation with Russia. Hundreds of US troops are arriving in Ukraine this week to bolster the Kiev regime’s war with Russian-backed rebels in the east. Not to be outdone, Britain is sending 75 military advisers of its own. As 20th-century history shows, the dispatch of military advisers is often how disastrous escalations start. They are also a direct violation of last month’s Minsk agreement, negotiated with France and Germany, that has at least achieved a temporary ceasefire and some pull-back of heavy weapons. Article 10 requires the withdrawal of all foreign forces from Ukraine.

But Nato’s hawks have got the bit between their teeth. Thousands of Nato troops have been sent to the Baltic states – the Atlantic alliance’s new frontline – untroubled by their indulgence of neo-Nazi parades and denial of minority ethnic rights. A string of American political leaders and generals are calling for the US to arm Kiev, from the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, General Martin Dempsey, to the new defence secretary, Ashton Carter. For the western military complex, the Ukraine conflict has the added attraction of creating new reasons to increase arms spending, as the US army’s General Raymond Odierno made clear when he complained this week about British defence cuts in the face of the “Russian threat”.

Putin’s authoritarian conservatism may offer little for Russia’s future, but this anti-Russian incitement is dangerous folly. There certainly has been military expansionism. But it has overwhelmingly come from Nato, not Moscow. For 20 years, despite the commitments at the end of the cold war, Nato has marched relentlessly eastwards, taking in first former east European Warsaw Pact states, then republics of the former Soviet Union itself. As the academic Richard Sakwa puts it in his book Frontline Ukraine, Nato now “exists to manage the risks created by its existence”.

Instead of creating a common European security system including Russia, the US-dominated alliance has expanded up to the Russian border – insisting that is merely the sovereign choice of the states concerned. It clearly isn’t. It’s also the product of an alliance system designed to entrench American “leadership” on the European continent – laid out in Pentagon planning drawn up after the collapse of the Soviet Union to “prevent the re-emergence of a new rival”.

Russia has now challenged that, and the consequences have been played out in Ukraine for the past year: starting with the western-backed ousting of the elected government, through the installation of a Ukrainian nationalist regime, the Russian takeover of Crimea and Moscow-backed uprising in the Donbass. On the ground, it has meant thousands of dead, hundreds of thousands of refugees, indiscriminate shelling of civilian areas and the rise of Ukrainian fascist militias such as the Azov battalion, supported by Kiev and its western sponsors, now preparing to “defend” Mariupol from its own people. For the bulk of the western media, that’s dismissed as Kremlin propaganda.

Most Russians want Putin to take a tougher stand ‘because of their experience of the past 25 years'
Boris Kagarlitsky

Russian covert military support for the rebels, on the other hand, is denounced as aggression and “hybrid warfare” – by the same governments that have waged covert wars from Nicaragua to Syria, quite apart from outright aggressions and illegal campaigns in Kosovo, Libya and Iraq.

That doesn’t justify less extreme Russian violations of international law, but it puts them in the context of Russian security. While Putin is portrayed in the west as a reckless land-grabber, in Russian terms he is a centrist. As the veteran Russian leftist Boris Kagarlitsky comments, most Russians want Putin to take a tougher stand against the west “not because of patriotic propaganda, but their experience of the past 25 years”.

In the west, Ukraine – along with Isis – is being used to revive the doctrines of liberal interventionism and even neoconservatism, discredited on the killing fields of Iraq and Afghanistan. So far, Angela Merkel and François Hollande have resisted American pressure to arm Kiev. But when the latest Minsk ceasefire breaks down, as it surely will, there is a real risk that Ukraine’s proxy conflict could turn into full-scale international war.
Nato expansion and the Ukraine conflict
Letters: Seumas Milne calls for a settlement that ‘guarantees Ukraine’s neutrality’. That is not a call which he, or anyone else outside Ukraine, has the right to make

The alternative is a negotiated settlement which guarantees Ukraine’s neutrality, pluralism and regional autonomy. It may well be too late for that. But there is certainly no military solution. Instead of escalating the war and fuelling nationalist extremism, western powers should be using their leverage to wind it down. If they don’t, the consequences could be disastrous – far beyond Ukraine.
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Sanctions Against Russia Not Working – French Senator - Nov 12 2015
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151112/ ... ssage.html
“What we need now is not sanctions but across-the-board strategic partnership with Russia,” the Senator emphasized.
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Flurry Of Claims Spells Trouble For What's Left Of Ukraine Cease-Fire Regime

In-Depth Coverage

November 12, 2015
by James Miller and Pierre Vaux

Far from international front pages, the situation in eastern Ukraine is once again on the verge of open warfare.

While the situation around Donetsk, the capital of the Russian-backed fighters, has remained strained since the announcement of the newest cease-fire in September, with sporadic small-arms fire reported almost daily, it has deteriorated significantly in the last two weeks. In the first month of the cease-fire regime, both sides were reporting calm, even playing down attacks that the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) was reporting; but the Russian-backed separatists in the self-declared Donetsk People's Republic (DNR) are now reporting more and more Ukrainian attacks, often alleging use of heavy weaponry. Meanwhile the Ukrainian military is now reporting attacks numbering in the realm of what was last seen in August during a period of particularly intense fighting.

On November 9, the Ukrainian military claims, Russian-backed fighters conducted 52 attacks, with more reported the next day. By noon on November 11, a Ukrainian military spokesman announced that one soldier had been killed and five wounded over the previous 24 hours.

Notably, the fighting is not limited to the Donetsk area now. Several other key flashpoints have seen attacks over the last week, including the lines near the separatist-held town of Horlivka, the Luhansk town of Schastye, and Shyrokyne, on the Azov coast. Early on November 11, the Ukrainian military reported fighting across a large span of territory -- nearly the entire front from the Russian border east of Luhansk to the Azov Sea near Mariupol.

Russia appears to be bringing tanks back to the fore, with the Ukrainian General Staff claiming early on November 10 to have spotted 20 in the center of Donetsk and another four deployed near the front to the west of the city. Later that day, marines in Shyrokyne told a television news crew that enemy tanks had been deployed to the edge of the village as Russian-backed fighters shelled their positions.

The Ukrainians reported on November 10 that 120-millimeter mortars, heavy weapons that should have been withdrawn in accordance with the Minsk agreements, were used to shell the town of Popasna, in the Luhansk region, and a nearby village. Kyiv also reports an increasing number of attacks from BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles and SPG-9 recoilless rifles.

Late on November 10, the military claims, Russian-backed fighters twice attempted to break through the Ukrainian lines outside Novozvanivka, a village just south of Popasna. According to Kyiv, the attackers suffered several casualties, including fatalities.

Combat was also reported near Starohnativka, a village that saw some of the heaviest fighting of this summer. One Ukrainian soldier was reported to have been wounded after a skirmish with small arms and grenade launchers.

Meanwhile, the separatists have made multiple claims over the last week that the Ukrainian Army has used Grad rockets to bombard western suburbs of Donetsk. These weapons are usually the harbingers of an offensive period, with their last major use by Russian-backed forces reported in August, during heavy fighting in the south of the Donetsk region.

The OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM) has confirmed finding evidence of two separate Grad impacts, several days apart, in the separatist-held Donetsk suburb of Staromykhaylivka and in the Kuybyshev district of the city. According to the SMM, both rockets appear to have come from the northwest, that is to say Ukrainian-held territory.

However, while only impacts from two rockets have been found, a DNR military spokesman claimed last week that three whole salvoes from Grad MLRS had been fired into Staromykhaylivka. Such a heavy barrage would surely leave greater traces. One theory raised is that these rockets are being fired from Grad-P portable, single-tube launchers, perhaps even by Russian or separatist diversionary forces.

The separatists also claim that Ukrainian troops went on the offensive early on November 10 attempting to break through the front line near Debaltseve, a city captured by Russian troops in February this year. Kyiv has denied these claims.

But the Ukrainian Novosti Donbassa website did report on November 9 that a military official had confirmed that Ukrainian troops had taken new ground in the village of Zaytseve, just outside Horlivka, over the weekend. Russian news reports have also reported that 'unidentified soldiers' took control of the same area. The situation therefore can be described as dynamic.

A Dirty Word

Regardless of who is prosecuting it, fighting is definitely taking place on a daily basis in Donetsk, with dozens of reports every evening from residents on social media.

Unfortunately, this is part of a predictable pattern.

'Cease-fire' has been a dirty word in Ukraine since September 2014's Minsk agreement was nearly immediately broken by Russian soldiers and their proxies. The agreement, signed at the point of the Kremlin's guns following Russia's outright invasion in August, was signed by France, Germany, Ukraine, and Russia, and was supposed to be a road map for permanent peace. However, the fighting never stopped, Russia never stopped supplying new weapons, and Russia and its proxies were soon launching offensives to capture new territory around Donetsk, the largest and most important city controlled by the Russian-backed militants.

In February, just days before Russian troops stormed and captured the strategically important town of Debaltseve, Minsk II was signed, a new cease-fire that netted similar results. In the months that followed, Russian troops built new forward-operating bases just behind the front lines, and tanks and heavy artillery regularly moved through areas where such weapons were banned under the cease-fire agreements.

A False Dawn?

The cease-fire that started in September, however, has been different. For the most part, fighting has been far more sporadic and far smaller in scale, and both Moscow and the Russian-backed separatists have been far more cooperative with efforts to restore some sense of normalcy in the Donbas. Why the sudden change? Some suspected that Putin was trying to appear like the peacemaker in advance of his visit to New York for the United Nations General Assembly. Soon, as the Russian military began to bomb primarily U.S.-backed rebels in northern Syria, others argued that Putin was shifting gears from Ukraine to Syria. The OSCE, for its part, has consistently warned that Russian military support for the separatists was increasing, despite the cease-fire, and OSCE Secretary-General Lamberto Zannier even added that 'you should really ask the Russians why they are suddenly becoming more cooperative' with efforts to bring about peace in eastern Ukraine.

The escalation in claims made by both Ukraine and the Russian-backed separatists bodes ill for the future of what little is left of the cease-fire regime, as either the Ukrainian military and the separatists are going at each other full-pelt already or Russian-backed fighters, already mounting an ever-climbing number of attacks, are inventing stories to justify a renewed offensive.

We can only speculate as to why the situation is once again deteriorating. In the last two weeks, Ukraine has complained of more cease-fire violations. The use of Grad rockets on behalf of the Ukrainian military, then, could be a direct response to this growing threat. The Russian-backed fighters, on the other hand, claim that Ukraine has been the aggressor. The fog of war makes it hard to sort who is telling the truth in this instance, and it is clear to some longtime observers of this crisis that both sides have tried to downplay violence since the newest cease-fire took place in September.

One key problem -- a cease-fire was always only the beginning of the peace process in Ukraine, yet the rest of the process has always taken a back seat. All of the agreements between Ukraine and Russia, going all the way back to Minsk I, which was signed 14 months ago, all have the same core conditions: the holding of local elections under Ukrainian law, the release of political prisoners, and the return of the control of the borders to Ukraine being three key elements. So far, none of those conditions has been met, and the return of the borders to Ukraine while Russian combat troops are still operating on Ukrainian soil is nearly impossible to envision. As long as the other conditions of the Minsk agreements go unfulfilled, the cease-fire will always be a fragile success balanced on the verge of the precipice of open warfare in Eastern Europe.

James Miller @Millermena and Pierre Vaux @pierrevaux are analysts with The Interpreter online journal


Source: http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-ce ... 60995.html
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Western reports drumming up action in Ukraine again? Any relations to hearings in the US posted on the Levant thread?
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Meet Putin's MH 17 nemisis

http://www.newsweek.com/meet-eliot-higg ... sis-345485
One reason for the Kremlin’s unwelcome attention is that Higgins is no longer content to simply debunk Russia’s claims. For months, Bellingcat has been geolocating social media posts to trace the movements of the Buk missile launcher seen by The Associated Press. The trail led from rebel-held eastern Ukraine back to its base in Russia, so the researchers scoured the social media profiles of Russian soldiers from the unit they believe crewed the launcher. “We’ve collected over a hundred social media profiles of soldiers in order to reconstruct the unit,” Higgins says, “establishing who’s who and who was in the convoy that transported the MH17 Buk towards the border with Russia.”

For the first time, Higgins and his team say they’re going to put names and faces behind the tragedy. They’ve handed the information over to a team of investigators from the Netherlands, Malaysia, Australia, Belgium and Ukraine, who are leading a criminal inquiry into the crash. Investigators say it’s still too early to comment on the Bellingcat report, but didn’t rule out the possibility that it could contribute to witness subpoenas, extradition requests and prosecutions. “We’re familiar with the report,” says Wim de Bruin, a spokesman for the Netherlands’ Public Prosecution Service, “but we need to establish for ourselves the cause of the crash in a way that we will have enough evidence to go to court, to point to suspects and see whether it’s possible to trace and to prosecute them.”

Back in his Brussels hotel room, Higgins is emphatic that no one needs to take his word for it, that the evidence against the Kremlin speaks for itself. “There’s so much debate about what Russia is actually doing, but we can say, ‘Look: Here’s the evidence. Here are the photos. Here are the videos. This is what Russia is up to.’”
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Regarding US plan to isolate Russia and how it backfired over the last year or so:
When it comes to cracking a good joke, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov is as smooth as silk.

"When they [Western countries] pull down the Iron Curtain, they might get something jammed in it," Lavrov said
Another analogy is... getting your d!ck stuck in the pants zipper.
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Read this in conjunction with the report I posted above (5 posts above) quoting French Senator prior to the hadsa and my reaction to it. AFAIRecall Aisa hi kuch hua tha january hadse ke pehle bhi.

U-Turn? EU President Offers Putin Closer Economic Ties After G20 Summit - Nov 19, 2015
"The decision on the circumstances in which to proceed along this path is in the hands of the member states of the European Union and should in particular by synchronized with the implementing of the Minsk agreements," Juncker wrote, according to Reuters.
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xposting from Paris thread:
Satya_anveshi wrote:I find it curious that there are hardly any reports in western media about council of europe investigation into ukraine (odessa) massacre. Investigation blamed Ukraine authorities and termed it an accomplice. That is a decisive EU stance against Ukraini plot of the west.

Council Of Europe Blasts Ukraine's Investigations Into Odesa Violence - Nov 04, 2015
http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-od ... 45601.html

Here is another report:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Bb4pJB15k
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Good one Satya! Russia has just banned food imports from the UKR.Putin-ng pressure,pardon the pun,on the choco soldier to come to heel,esp. after the massive display of Ru mil force in Syria.
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The anti corruption crusader Petro Poroshenko, who in 2006 was "disgraced Oligarch" and "corruption tainted" according to the US embassy in Kiev, is busy delivering Ukraine from corrupt russian backed fellas in 2015.

http://www.fairobserver.com/region/euro ... ive-17882/
In 2014, for example, the Ukrainian government passed a lustration law attempting to “purge” the civil service of corruption that Human Rights Watch (HRW) called a violation of judicial independence. “[The law] is overly broad, tainted with political bias, and violates the independence of the judiciary, which can only deepen mistrust in an already fractured society,” HRW said in a statement.

On a similar note, Transparency International, a Berlin-based anti-corruption organization, released a report stating that the “highest officials of Ukraine” have attempted “to establish through Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin personal control over the key anti-corruption bodies to make them function in their own interests.”
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Does anyone know why beloved Misha aka Saakashvili, poster boy of US neocons, keeps appointing pretty gals, models etc to various posts?

I ve read about botox treatments and teeth massages etc. But of course these are russian propaganda. Why the appointments?! Anyone has any clue or is he plain tharki and thats it ?!
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