The Islamic State, the Indian Sub-Continent & its Neighbourhood

[SSridhar]

Deported from Turkey, untraceable now - K.V.Aditya Bhardwaj, The Hindu

The series of arrests of alleged suspects in terror cases seems to have exposed the fact that the Karnataka Police “failed” to keep track of two IT professionals who were deported from Turkey after being caught trying to cross over to Syria in January 2015.

The two have now gone untraceable and the failure to keep track of them has raised concern that State agencies are not “on the ball” in tracking terror suspects, Intelligence Bureau sources say.

Both were part of a group of nine people, including five children, deported from Turkey.

The alleged “leader” of the group, Mohammed Abdul Ahad, who had taken his five children and wife in the attempt to cross the Syrian border allegedly to fight for the IS, has now been arrested.

But there are fears that one of the two techies could have fled from India. This is despite Central agencies asking the State police to keep track of the entire group.

The family of one of the two missing techies, Noufal, said he was in Saudi Arabia, but they do not have the documentation to support their claim, said an NIA official.

Earlier this month, the city police were left stumped when the Delhi Police Special Cell arrested radical cleric Moulana Anzar Shah Qasmi for his alleged links with the Al-Qaeda in Indian Subcontinent (AQIS).

Qazmi, with whom all the arrested suspects were in touch, was under city police surveillance for nearly three months following tip-offs from the locality, but the surveillance inputs were not shared with other agencies and they failed to investigate him thoroughly.

[SSridhar]

Arrested Tawhid men were to target politicians, not crowded places: NIA - Rahul Tripathi, Economic Times

Fourteen men arrested on the suspicion of being part of an 'online radicalisation module' that owed allegiance to global extremist organisation Islamic State ( ISIS), have disclosed to their interrogators that they were asked to focus on "political targets, foreigners, vital installations and government machinery" instead of carrying out explosion in market areas or crowded places.

Counter-terror experts believe that this is a new trend among home-grown jihadi. Indian Mujahideen (IM) which was responsible for multiple blasts in the country from 2004 to 2014 targeted market places and religious shrines than political targets.

On Sunday, two of the 14 arrested suspects were brought to New Delhi and were produced before a local court that remanded the duo for 13 days NIA custody. The two arrested have been identified as Abu Ansa (24) and Nafees Khan, both resident of Hyderabad. According to NIA, 12 other will be produced before the court on Monday.

The new strategy of the radicalised men of Ansar-ul-Tawhid (AuT), floated by former IM militants, is to target a political person because targeting public does not yield desired results. "The arrested suspects who owe their allegiance to AuT/IS believed that to shake the government, politicians should be targeted," a top NIA official associated with the investigation told ET, requesting anonymity.

"IM commanders considered that it was difficult to target a political person and would have also led to lot of backlash against their community," the official said.

[deejay]

The IS in India are becoming more belligerent and red lines are being crossed with impunity:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 32071.html

Pro-Isis slogans and threats of an imminent terror attack have been daubed on a statue of Mahatma Gandhi in a small village in north-western India.

Images from the scene showed the face of the white statue had been smeared with brown paint, while the rest of the statue was covered in crude writing, including the word ‘Isis’.

Local reports suggest the rest of the writing included a warning about a terror attack scheduled to take place during Tuesday’s nationwide Republic Day celebrations, although these claims could not be independently verified.

The incident took place in the small village of Dudu, which is near Jaipur in the state of Rajasthan.

The CNN bureau in India tweeted that security teams have been deployed in the area following the vandalism, suggesting that the matter is being taken seriously by officials.

First India News described locals as being tense and angry over the incident, adding that they are demanding the police do everything possible to find and arrest those who were responsible.

he graffiti and its warning of an imminent attack come as widespread celebrations are predicted throughout India to celebrate Republic Day on Tuesday.

On Sunday a car with military number plates was stolen in the capital New Delhi raising concerns that it could be used by potential terrorists to gain access to otherwise restricted locations.

This was the same technique used just last week when terrorists kidnapped a senior police officer in Punjab and used his car to enter a local air base where they opened fire.

[ramana]

There are two types of ISIS.
The first one is the Al Baghdadi version in the Levant.
The second one is ISI controlled IM elements.

Its the second one that is being rolled up here.

[SSridhar]

Pro-IS slogans on Gandhi statue - The Hindu

Pro-IS slogans and threats of blasts on Republic Day were found scribbled on a statue of Mahatma Gandhi in Jaipur district’s Dudu area on Monday.

The slogan “ISIS Zindabad,” a warning of a “blast” on January 26 and the inscription “ISI” were found painted in brown on the statue by the locals, Superintendent of Police, Jaipur (Rural), Rameshwar Singh told The Hindu .

An FIR was filed against unknown miscreants. Security at Mozmabad has been stepped up.

[SSridhar]

X-post from STFU-TSP thread

Dr. Qaiser Sharyar Durrani, Has Been Arrested For Links To ISIS- Paki Urdu Press

Rector's Profile
Dr. Qaiser Shehryar Durrani is a scholar and educationist in the field of Computer Science. He has years of diverse experience in academia, software industry and consultancy.
Dr. Durrani holds degrees of Doctor of Science in Artificial Intelligence and Human Factors and M.Sc. in Information Management from George Washington University, USA and B.Sc. in Electrical Engineering from UET, Lahore. He is currently a member of different academic bodies and selection boards of various universities in Pakistan.
Previously, Dr. Durrani has been a Professor, Head of Department and Director at National University of Computer and Emerging Sciences (FAST), Dean at PICS, and Assistant Professor at King Saud University, Saudi Arabia. He has also lectured at various national and international universities as a visiting faculty member. These include Kinnaird College, LUMS, Punjab University, Strayer College Arlington Virginia - USA, and George Washington University, USA. He has provided his services as a consultant for TriSoft (Pvt.) Limited, CresSoft, Soft Research, Shaukat Khanum Trust Hospital and Inter-American Development Bank, Washington D.C. He has worked as a Software Engineer at SAH Institute of Electronics and as System Architect at CresSoft. He also held different teaching, research and development positions at George Washington University as Technical Assistant, Graduate Teaching Assistant, Graduate Research Assistant, Graduate Fellow, and a Software Contractor. Dr. Durrani has published his work at various journals and conferences and has also presented them in different countries of the world.

Look at the impressive profile of the rector ; massa must have provided evidence to the Pakis; maybe, became radicalized in Saudia like Tafseen Malik !

[SSridhar]

2 from Telangana suspected to be fighting for IS in Syria - Vijaita Singh, The Hindu

Two men from Telangana, who recently left the country to fight alongside the Islamic State (IS) in Syria, were in close contact with at least four of the 14 terror suspects arrested by the National Investigation Agency (NIA) last week, a senior government official said.

Two other members of the group — Faizan and Arfan — who were also part of the Hyderabad module are said to be absconding and had acquired visa for Japan, the probe has revealed.

The two men, both from Telangana, have been identified as Arshad Ali and Kadir, both in their mid-twenties. Ali, first went to Singapore and from there he travelled to Syria four months ago. Kabir, who took a job in Dubai, travelled to the conflict zone around two months ago, said an official.

The four men in the NIA custody now — Nafeez Khan, Obedullah Khan, Mohammad Shariff Mohiuddin and Abu Anas — were in touch with the two men who travelled to Syria.

It is true that the Islamic State is trying to recruit at multiple levels in India.

Central agencies alert

The present module was not under the radar of the State police but the Central intelligence agencies had been keeping a watch on them,” said the official.

[SSridhar]

25 Indians believed to have joined IS - The Hindu

The Hindu had reported on December 26 that two more men of Indian origin had travelled to Iraq-Syria but their identities were not known then. The number of Indians who are believed to have joined the terrorist outfit now stands at 25, up from 17 in August last year.

Another official said, “Their preliminary interrogation shows that they wanted to increase the numbers of their followers here and organise attacks to establish a caliphate here,” said the official.

According to officials, the group being led by Mumbai resident Mudabbir Sheikh had at least one common handler, former member of the Indian Mujahideen Shafi Armar alias Yousuf, who now heads the Ansar-ul-Tawhid, which has pledged allegiance to the Islamic State.

[ramana]

Have they mapped the Indian terrorists who are joining IS to where they come from and what is their motivation?


We are in the 10th page and haven't come to such data.

[ramana]

X-Posting...

IS seems to be having a pretty steady recruitment scheme in India. How much ever the seculars cry that "Terrorism has no religion", people with any common sense up their heads are not going to believe it.
Hyderabad terror links with country-wide modules not new

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[SSridhar]

IS sympathiser picked up? - Yunus Lasania, The Hindu

One of the men who was believed to be absconding and in Japan en route to join the ISIS a few days ago, was picked up from his house at Mallepally here [Hyderabad] on Thursday night.

The name of 33-year-old Mohammed Faizan had cropped up after National Investigation Agency (NIA) officials had taken into custody Nafeez Khan, Obedullah Khan, Mohammad Shariff Mohiuddin and Abu Anas from Hyderabad for allegedly trying to join the IS. Eight others were also picked up from across the country during raids.

A few days ago, intelligence officials had told the media that Faizan and another person named Arfan were absconding, and had obtained visas for Japan. This proved to be untrue in Faizan’s case, as his family members said he was very much in Hyderabad.

However, his brother Mohammed Atif said that Faizan was not involved in any illegal activity. “He is ready to co-operate with any agency, as my brother is innocent,” said Atif.

According to Atif, Faizan had a nodding acquaintance with the four boys who were arrested by the NIA. “He has nothing to do with whatever they are said to be involved in,” he said. Faizan works as a manager at a private company in Hyderabad.

[SSridhar]

3 Indians with Islamic State links deported from a Gulf country, arrested - Bharti Jain, ToI

Three Indians allegedly working for Islamic State were deported from a Gulf country on Thursday night, NIA sources told TOI on Friday.

The three are wanted for conspiracy to identify, motivate, recruit and train Indians, both in India and abroad, for terror attacks. They were arrested by NIA after questioning.

The deported men have been identified as Sheikh Azhar al Islam Abdul Sattar Sheikh, Mohd Farhan Rafiq Shaikh and Adnan Hussain.

They were working with Islamic State's Abu Dhabi module.

Meanwhile, earlier in the day Union home minister Rajnath Singh said the the security agencies were capable of dealing with any threat posed by the terror group.

The home minister's comments came amidst concern over the growing attempts by ISIS to lure youths into its fold.

"We have the capacity to meet any threat. We will face it," the home minister told reporters on the sidelines of a function here [New Delhi].

Last week, 14 youths were arrested by the NIA and other security agencies after they allegedly formed a module on the pattern of dreaded ISIS to carry out strikes at vital installations.

More info on the above
3 men deported from UAE for links with IS, arrested - Vijaita Singh, The Hindu

Three Indians, said to have links with terrorist outfit Islamic State (IS) were detained and later arrested by the National Investigation Agency (NIA) from the IGI airport in Delhi on Thursday night after they were deported from the UAE on India’s request.

India had alerted the UAE authorities about the suspects, based on information provided by the 14 arrested in countrywide raids last week, a senior government official told The Hindu . The NIA said the men were recruiting and training Indians for terrorist attacks in India as well as “other friendly countries.”

[ramana]

So what is Islamic State's Abu Dhabi unit? Shouldn't UAE crack down on them?

[SSridhar]

Modernising madrasas to tackle IS influence - KC Deepika, The Hindu

Worried over the possibility of youngsters being influenced by extremist groups, the [Karnataka] State chapter of Islamic Educational Board of India (IEBI) has shifted focus to modernising madrasas and imparting academic knowledge as well as an understanding about what the Quran actually teaches.

Addressing a press conference here on Sunday where Muslim scholars and clerics were unified in condemning terrorist outfit Islamic State (IS), IEBI president S.S.A. Khader said there were close to 10,000 madrasas in the State and a systematic study was being undertaken by the board.

“It is more important now as we don’t want our youngsters to be swayed by different kinds of slogans. The IS doesn’t want people to be educated in Quran because it is easy to tell people with half knowledge about what is not there in the Quran. People are getting swayed owing to wrong teaching in an unorganised way,” said Mr. Khader.

On the board’s plan to launch an intensive survey of mosques and madrasas, creating a detailed database and offering online Islamic education, he said, “By the turn of next year, we expect to cover not less than 1,000 madrasas and all of them in five years.”

NIA arrests

Reacting to the nation-wide arrests of alleged IS sympathisers by the National Investigation Agency (NIA), Syed Mohammad Ashraf Kichhoochhawi, founder and national president of All-India Ulama and Mashaikh Board, said there have been cases where people had been arrested on suspicion, only to be released later. “If they are guilty, they must be punished. Every Muslim in India wants to cleanse the country of them,” he said.

[SSridhar]

U.S. Broadens Fight Against ISIS With Attacks in Afghanistan - MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and ERIC SCHMITT, NY Times

The United States has carried out at least a dozen operations — including commando raids and airstrikes — in the past three weeks against militants in Afghanistan aligned with the Islamic State, expanding the Obama administration’s military campaign against the terrorist group beyond Iraq and Syria.

The operations followed President Obama’s decision last month to broaden the authority of American commanders to attack the Islamic State’s new branch in Afghanistan. The administration — which has been accused by Republicans of not having a strategy to defeat the group — is revamping plans for how it fights the terrorist organization in regions where it has developed affiliates.

Many of these recent raids and strikes in Afghanistan have been in the Tora Bora region of Nangarhar Province — an inhospitable, mountainous area in the eastern part of the country, near the border with Pakistan. It was in Tora Bora that Osama bin Laden and other senior Qaeda militants took refuge during the American-led invasion in 2001, and eventually evaded capture by slipping into Pakistan.

American commanders in Afghanistan said they believed that between 90 and 100 Islamic State militants had been killed in the recent operations. Intelligence officials estimate that there are roughly 1,000 Islamic State fighters in Nangarhar Province, and perhaps several thousand more elsewhere in the country. But even the generals leading the missions acknowledge that a resilient militant organization can recruit new fighters to replace those killed in American attacks.

“The new authority gives us the ability to take the gloves off to hold them in check, and we have been targeting them heavily and it has had quite an effect,” said Maj. Gen. Jeffrey Buchanan, the military’s deputy chief of staff for operations in Afghanistan. “But just because you take a bunch of guys off the battlefield doesn’t mean you will stop this organization.”

Although Mr. Obama had declared an end to combat missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, the operations are part of a continuing and potentially expanding American military footprint in south-central Asia, the Middle East and Africa for the fight against the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL.

In Iraq, the United States has about 3,700 troops, including trainers, advisers and commandos. There are several dozen Special Operations forces deployed in Syria. Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter has said the United States and its allies are looking to do more, and has asked other countries — including several Arab ones — to contribute more to the military campaign as it moves to reclaim Mosul in Iraq and Raqqa in Syria, the two major cities controlled by the Islamic State.

Administration officials are weighing a new campaign plan for Libya that would deepen the United States’ military and diplomatic involvement on yet another front against the Islamic State. The United States and its allies are increasing reconnaissance flights and intelligence collecting there — and even preparing for possible airstrikes and raids, according to senior American officials. Special Operations forces have met with various Libyan groups over the past months to vet them for possible action against the Islamic State.

In Afghanistan, American and other allied commanders fear that the combination of fighters loyal to the Taliban, the Haqqani network and the Islamic State is proving too formidable for the still struggling Afghan security forces to combat on their own.

The United States has 9,800 combat troops in Afghanistan. Although that figure is scheduled to decline to 5,500 by the time Mr. Obama leaves office next January, administration and military officials are privately hinting that the president may again slow the troop withdrawal later this year.

At a hearing last week, Mr. Obama’s nominee to be the next commander in Afghanistan, Lt. Gen. John W. Nicholson Jr., was asked by Senator John McCain, chairman of the Armed Services Committee, if he believed that the overall security situation in Afghanistan was deteriorating, rather than improving.

“Sir, I agree with your assessment,” said General Nicholson, a veteran of several deployments to Afghanistan. He said that the Taliban had fought against Afghan security forces “more intensely than perhaps we anticipated” and that the emergence of the Islamic State there had been unexpected.

General Nicholson said that, if confirmed by the Senate, he would take his first 90 days to review the two primary missions in Afghanistan — counterterrorism and advising and assisting Afghan forces — before offering his recommendations on American troop levels in the country. The departing commander, Gen. John F. Campbell, is scheduled to testify before Congress this week, and he is expected to likewise underscore the rising threat from the Islamic State.

Under newly relaxed rules the White House sent to the Pentagon last month, the military now needs to show only that a proposed target is related to Islamic State fighters in Afghanistan. Before, such a target could be struck only if it had significant ties to Al Qaeda.

The military had been able to strike Islamic State targets in self-defense, but the new rules lower the standard for such offensive operations against the group.

“Suffice to say we had built up a sufficient amount of intel to be able to go after them in a robust way once we were able to take the gloves off,” General Buchanan said.

He added: “We continue to conduct operations against Al Qaeda throughout, but have been more focused on” ISIS in recent weeks.

There are significant differences between the Islamic State fighters in Afghanistan and those in Iraq and Syria.

In Afghanistan, a majority of the militants were previously part of the local Taliban or Haqqani network, and many of them have now “rebranded” themselves as members of the Islamic State. While the leaders of the group in Iraq and Syria are mostly from those countries, many of their fighters come from other Middle Eastern countries and from Europe.

The Islamic State militants in Afghanistan receive some money from leaders in Iraq and Syria, but there is little evidence that they receive much direction about when and where to launch attacks, according to military officials. There have been few examples of the Islamic State members in Afghanistan being able to effectively communicate with each other to carry out complex attacks, like the ones often carried out in Iraq and Syria. Nevertheless, the group has claimed responsibility for several deadly bombings in Afghanistan in recent months.

President Ashraf Ghani of Afghanistan has thanked American officials for their recent efforts against the Islamic State, which he fears is gaining strength, according to senior American officials.

As the Islamic State has expanded in Afghanistan, it has also fought the Taliban as the two groups compete for influence and money.

“They are trying to assume control at the local level over checkpoints, over the drug trade, over flows of illicit goods,” Brig. Gen. Wilson A. Shoffner, a spokesman for the American military in Afghanistan, said in a telephone interview on Sunday.

[SSridhar]

US intelligence help IB, NIA arrest IS suspect - P.Naveen, ToI

BHOPAL: A 23-year-old student, alleged to be a member of 'Janood-ul-Khalifa-e-Hind' (Army of Caliph of India), the Indian wing of ISIS, was arrested from Bhopal on Monday.

Arrest was made by team comprising sleuths of central intelligence bureau (IB), National Investigating Agency (NIA) and city crime branch besides leads from Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) - intelligence agency of US Government.

He was allegedly part of the module that was planning to carry out attacks across India on instructions from Shafi Armar alias Yusuf Al-Hindi, a former member of Indian Mujahideen and believed to have strong links with the ISIS.

Mohammad Azar, was arrested from an advocate's house at Tilajamalpura area in Bhopal, said sources. He was undergoing his studies in Uttar Pradesh and had escaped during NIA's crackdown on ISIS sympathisers in India, it's alleged.

His arrest was fallout of NIA's recent operation in which 14 'Janood-ul-Khalifa-e-Hind' members, who were picked up from 12 locations across the country, said police. All of them including Mohammad Azar of Bhopal were in constant touch with Shafi Armar.

He would be produced before special court on Tuesday.

[SSridhar]

Rajnath Singh meets Muslim clerics on ISIS attempt to lure Indians - PTI

Amidst increasing attempts by ISIS to lure Indians into its fold, Home Minister Rajnath Singh today held a meeting with top Muslim clerics and sought their cooperation to check the growing tentacles of the dreaded group among Muslim youth.

The hour-long meeting, also attended by NSA Ajit Doval and senior Home Ministry officials, apprised the Muslim clerics about activities of the Middle-East terrorist group and its efforts to attract Indian youth to its fold.

The Home Minister sought the cooperation of the clerics, who offered all help to the government in this regard, official sources said.

The issues that were discussed included misuse of social media, sources of impetus that attract persons, specially youth, to ISIS, the growth of ISIS influence in India's neighbourhood and the best possible law enforcement response.

Those who attended the meeting include Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind's Maulana Arshad Madani, Maulana Abdul Wahid Hussain Chisti of Ajmer Sharif, Asghar Ali Imam Mehdi of Jamiat Ahle Hadees, Tauqeer Raza Khan, Rafiq Warshiq, Shia leader Maulana Syed Kalbe Jawad Qalbe Jawaid, Kamal Farooqi, Mushafa Faruqi besides others.

The need for appropriate welfare schemes for minorities, social media strategies to be followed, especially in the area of information technology were also discussed threadbare.

In his remarks, the Home Minister said India's traditions and family values will overcome such nefarious designs of terrorist groups and that while the traction that ISIS has got in India is extremely limited, and almost insignificant in comparison to other countries, there is a need to keep up vigil on all fronts, and not let down the guard in any manner.

This was for the first time that the Home Minister had a meeting with Muslim clerics on the issue of ISIS.

Last fortnight, the Home Minister had a meeting with top officials of central intelligence and investigative agencies and police of 13 states and discussed steps to check the growing influence of ISIS among youngsters through social media and other sources.

[ramana]

Looks like RNS is moving per a plan.
First met police and then the ulema.
Next could be news paper writers and eminent personalities.

[ramana]

Can someone write a Python script and run it on this thread to extract the names and association of the ISIS members being arrested? Would like to see their location, former association etc.
See what pattern emerges.

[RoyG]

Can't do much to stop it. These sort of tactics can only buy us a little time. When all these gulf states balkanize, Sunnis world wide will look to Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh. Virtually limitless reservoir of foot soldiers to keep puritanical form alive.

Narcotics revenue and the idea of Islam under siege will take the place of hydrocarbons in fueling its expansion throughout the subcontinent.

[SSridhar]

When all these gulf states balkanize, Sunnis world wide will look to Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh. Virtually limitless reservoir of foot soldiers to keep puritanical form alive.

Somehow, I already have a feeling that the IS is recognizing that their jihad would be incomplete and cannot be carried forward significantly without the greater involvement of Indian Muslims.

[SSridhar]

Nato strikes Islamic State radio station in Afghanistan - Reuters

Coalition aircraft struck Islamic State's new radio station in the eastern Afghan province of Nangarhar late on Monday, part of Nato's escalating campaign to stop the ultra-radical Islamist movement taking root in the country.

Attaullah Khogyani, spokesman for the Nangarhar provincial governor, said the overnight raid also involved Afghan ground forces and destroyed an Islamic State broadcaster in Achin district, killing 29 militants including eight working on the radio and online operation.

The emergence of fighters loyal to Islamic State has introduced a dangerous new element to Afghanistan's long-running civil conflict, with the group violently challenging the much larger Afghan Taliban movement in pockets of the country.

Nato's Resolute Support mission in Kabul, which is led by the US military, confirmed that American forces carried out two counter-terrorism air strikes in Achin district, but declined to provide further details.

Whether the raid succeeds in silencing the transmissions, which have recently increased from an hour a day to 90 minutes, and are now broadcast in Dari as well as the Pashto language, remains to be seen.

But it reflects intensifying efforts by US forces in the fight against Islamic State, known widely by its derogative Arabic name Daesh, since a special order gave US forces broader authority to strike at IS fighters.

"We have increased the pressure, the US has increased the pressure against Daesh in the past few weeks," said Brigadier General Wilson Shoffner, deputy chief of staff for communications and Nato's top spokesman in Afghanistan.

US officials generally provide only bare details of counterterrorism operations, but the military has confirmed a series of drone strikes in Nangarhar over recent weeks.

According to the Afghan interior ministry, Afghan and international forces have conducted nearly 20 joint operations against Islamic State in Nangarhar over the past month.

"We use airpower of our own and of international forces, which is crucial in defeating Daesh," said Nangarhar police chief Fazel Ahmad Sherzad.

No single Islamic state leader

Established mainly in Nangarhar, a province which borders the Federally Administered Tribal Areas of Pakistan, Islamic State has raised its profile in Afghanistan over the past year.

General John Campbell, the American commander of international forces in Afghanistan, said in December that the movement was believed to command no more than 1,000-3,000 fighters in the country.

Shoffner added: "What we don't see is Daesh in Iraq or Syria having the ability to control operations here in Afghanistan. We also don't see any one Daesh leader in Afghanistan able to control operations in more than one part of the country at a time."

But he said it had the potential to become a more serious threat if left unchecked.

Combining radical ideology with gruesome tactics including beheadings and at least one instance in which prisoners were killed by being blown up with explosives, it has established a reputation for extreme ferocity and attracted former members of the Afghan Taliban.

Over the past year it has grown in strength, challenging its larger Islamist rival for control of lucrative smuggling routes as well as dominance of the insurgency.

[RoyG]

When all these gulf states balkanize, Sunnis world wide will look to Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh. Virtually limitless reservoir of foot soldiers to keep puritanical form alive.

Somehow, I already have a feeling that the IS is recognizing that their jihad would be incomplete and cannot be carried forward significantly without the greater involvement of Indian Muslims.

Imagine multiple cells which hit targets like grade schools similar to the Beslan attack and temples in a communally charged area in Bengal or Kerala. 200-300 dead. It's hard to believe there wont be riots. They will hit very soft targets like these in an effort to bring maximum pain on Muslims so they will feel compelled to join their ranks. Hitting hotels where lutyens elite reside won't do anything. Nobody in India cares for them.

With the rise of the Shia in the Middle East, Sunni's will need a new power center. Indian subcontinent has the most fertile soil for them and they wont let it go to waste.

[Cosmo_R]

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Somehow, I already have a feeling that the IS is recognizing that their jihad would be incomplete and cannot be carried forward significantly without the greater involvement of Indian Muslims.

The Saudis have always seen India as Dar ul Islam and long asked "How did we lose India?" So, not just recent ISIS realization but part of plan from 1947.

[ramana]

SSwamy is tweeting 75% of ISIS from India are from TN?
I think majority are from former Nizam areas in Karnataka, TS, Maharashtra and are mostly former IM.

BTW a retd Maj Gen's son was picked up in Goa. Looks like new convert self radicalized.

[SSridhar]

IS threat: Maharashtra rolls out deradicalisation plan - Sharad Vyas, The Hindu

Faced with the challenges of both home-grown extremism and the global Islamic State (IS) threat, Maharashtra has rolled out a deradicalisation programme for the minority community.

The programme includes opening vyayam shalas in minority areas, making National Cadet Corps (NCC), Bharat Scouts and Guides (BS&G) compulsory in minority schools, and setting up an independent media outlet to deliver ‘mainstream thoughts and values’ to the minority youth in the State.

The Union Home Ministry had asked three States to draw up a comprehensive counter-strategy in the wake of attempts by international terrorist outfits to propagate jihadi ideologies.

Presentation in Delhi

A three-member team of the State’s Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) led by Director General of Police (DGP) Pravin Dixit had presented an IS counter-strategy at New Delhi in the second week of January.

Concurrently, the State Home Department has rolled out a 50-point socio-economic strategy with the aim of ‘bringing youth of the minority community into the mainstream’ and making coordinated efforts and policies in 13 sectors, including education, sports, urban planning, law and order, skill development, women and child, social justice, and health.

Government resolution

Chief Minister Devendra Fadnavis has approved the proposal and passed a government resolution on it. The proposed responses drawn up against the threat of home-grown extremism include: plans to teach religious texts from all sects in minority schools and teaching merits of democratic States and demerits of dictatorships as a separate chapter in the Urdu textbooks.

[SSridhar]

SSwamy is tweeting 75% of ISIS from India are from TN?
I think majority are from former Nizam areas in Karnataka, TS, Maharashtra and are mostly former IM.

ramana, I won't be surprised if what SSwamy says is true. He is one person who has his ears to the ground. There are pockets scattered over south, east and west TN which are dens of Islamist extremism. In fact, the very first signs of IS penetration in India came in c. 2014 when a group of youth in Keelakkarai (East TN) wore IS T-shirts. Just a few days back, a huge Salafi conference took place in Trichy, attended by over 100,000 people, where they openly spoke like Sheikh Sirhindi & Waliullah. The arterial Mount Road was laid in siege for 3 full days a few years back and the police simply diverted traffic without taking any effort to break the siege! Last year, the Chennai-Bengaluru NH came to a standstill for several hours, police stations were looted and women police officers molested by an Islamic extremist crowd over the death of a Muslim man. The TN government didn't do much except to punish a police officer! The TN govt is sleeping on the spreading Islamist extremism.

[ramana]

So Jayalalitha Jayraman is like Mamata Bannerjee and is fostering jihadis in her midst.

[Singha]

I disagree with the Govt policy of letting the deported go free after "counselling" (ha ha is it branch selection in engg?) and "keeping tabs" on them. india is not USA where a case officer can feed a persons id details into a terminal and pull all his records sucked up from everywhere, live track his cellphone etc etc.

deportation for trying to join the IS should mean a instant 5 year jail term followed by 5 years of probation.

[ramana]

US has a 15 year jail term for material support to a terrorist organization.
What the experts feel is this is too high a term and leads to people not turning in those whom they know are on radicalization path.


The pathways are like this:
- If the person goes to ISIS, 90% he will get killed. Either there or after return.
- If they call police, he gets light sentence and rehabilitation. At least he is alive.

I think the Indian approach is right for the parents know their children are on lesser evil path if they are turned in.

We need people to study the psychology of ISIS or extreme radicalization.

This propensity for violence appeals to a certain mindset.
Not all new converts become extremists.
But some converts do become more violent than already Muslims.
Which ones and why?

And role of females in this process also has to be studied.


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Link to Peter Bergen article on an American Jihadi


https://www.newamerica.org/new-america/ ... mericacom/
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We need to analyze our own ISIS jihadis.

[ramana]

X-post....

What manner of beastie be a “Hindu who practises Isalm”

Anyway whatever the answer may be; an elite public school education at Doon School, parent who retired as a Major General in the Indian Army and a working carreer with a flock of MNC’s did not dull the urge, which appears to have been brought on by the exposure to Mohammaddenism, to associate with Mohammadden Terrorists and aspire to be one :

Son of ex-Major General held in Goa for ‘terror links’



Added Later: Hat Tip Jhujar for posting the article in the Internal Security thread.

[Falijee]

Islamic State" "Not Impressed" With LET And Paki Govt ; Threatens To Expand To Kashmir

The Islamic State’s Khorasan wing is committed to “expanding to Kashmir to fight the cow-worshipping Hindus and the apostates from factions allied to the idol-worshippers of Pakistan, such as the Lashkar-e-Taiba”, its in-house magazine Dabiq has reported. (but "we" always thought that the LET came with the approval of the Saudi Govt -the patrons of ISIS )

“Wilayat Khorasan has great importance to Islam and the Muslims,” Saeed told Dabiq,
referring to a sprawling territorial region stretching from northeastern Iran to the Indus, from where — as per an apocalyptic prophecy — an army will arise heralding the day of judgment.
“It had once been under the authority of Muslims, along with the regions surrounding it. Afterwards, the secularist and Shia idolators conquered some of these regions, and the cow-worshipping Hindus and atheist Chinese conquered other nearby regions, as is the case in parts of Kashmir and Turkistan,” he said.(so "they" are the "greenest of the green")
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Born in 1972 and educated at a seminary in the town of Mamozai in Pakistan’s Orakzai Agency, Saeed is believed to have joined the jihadist movement soon after the eviction of the Taliban regime in the wake of 9/11. He joined Baitullah Mehsud, the incipient leader of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, in 2007, taking command of its networks in Orakzai.
Though the group had a close relationship with the Pakistani military — with whom Baitullah Mehsud signed a peace deal in 2005 — the two sides later fell apart. In 2008, a fresh accord was signed in Orakzai, but tensions between the two sides led to fresh fighting.

In the interview, Saeed said, “The idol-worshippers of Pakistan, and specifically their army and intelligence, would exploit the various Islamic organisations on the issue of Kashmir for their despicable personal interests - ...

...the intelligence agencies left the people of Kashmir in the middle of the road and in the worst of situations,” he said.

Large parts of Saeed’s interview are dedicated to Taliban’s new chief, Akhtar Mansour, who he alleges has “strong and deep ties with Pakistani intelligence”. He says the Taliban under Mansour “has permitted farmers and merchants to grow and sell opium. Rather, the matter has reached the point that the movement itself harvests opium”. By contrast, he continues, the IS has “has not only banned the growth and sale of opium, but has also banned in its territory everything that Allah’s law has prohibited, such as cigarettes and similar substances”.

[ramana]

I go back to the triune model of the brain: reptilian, limbic, and neocortex .

LINK to Triune Model of Brain


To recap, Reptilian brain is the basic survival instinct part of the brain. The Limbic processes the emotions and Neocortex allows higher thinking.

Islam suppresses the limbic and kills the neocortex.

No high thinking allowed. Ibn Rushd attested to this by saying the Koran is unchangable.

All those beheading videos are to dull/suppress the limbic brain where emotions rule.

Same with the halal cutting of animal throats at Bakri Id/Ramzan etc.

Chanting prayers while cutting throat is to give divine sanction to a barbaric action.

Hence only the reptilian brain is allowed to exist in Islam.

Hence the new converts to Islam who are prone to extremism are devoid of the limbic and neocortex functions and their reaction is basically reptilian in nature.

Attack everyone at all perceived insults to Islam.


So de-programming has to restore the Limbic and Neocortex functions and assuage the reptilian brains.

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PS: Abraham and Moses with his Ten commandments also advocated this .

However the Persian captivity turned the Jews Eastward (Isaiah) and nurtured the Limbic and Neocortex.
The Christians went back to the Reptilian model till Reformation and Enlightenment.
Its only after this we find Christianity nurturing higher achievements.

[member_29325]

Females and especially the liberal feminist types are playing the role of useful idiots for the islamist supporters (and closet ISIS supporters) that play the role of "moderate muslims" -- Huma Abedin (Hillary's aide) is one such though she is not a useful idiot and much more dangerous, and there is @daliamogahed and @lsarsour. They provide comfort to the more hard core islamist types who get to face the brunt of islam's misogyny (those of the ilk of the woman shooter in san bernadino) by pretending that you can wear a hijab and live in an islamist society and still be a feminist...just a different type of feminist. We already have examples in the EU/UK of such women willing joining ISIS and totally buying into their ideas. This category is supported by the regressive left-wing that sees nothing wrong with double standards for basic human rights or women's rights and results in self-proclaimed left-wing militant feminists making arguments like "it is okay if arab women wear a hijab and are forced to obey their husbands and treated poorly because "arab culture" and white people should not be judgemental because that is just racist bigotry".

For India, it may not be as simple, where we already have the likes of ishrat jahan who showed no overt signs of buying 100% islamist doctrine and willing to commit suicide bombing -- so the current approach of roping in parents seems sensible, but a few generations down once these young adults replace the current generation, there is no reason why they should cooperate in such measures by the government. The current approach of using family/society to "correct young muslims from the wrong path" is short term if the IS bug is already part of Indian muslim society, as it is. This will just gestate a few generations before current solutions stop yielding results in the fight against ISIS-type islamic extremism. Explicit external signs of buying into Arab culture itself is a yellow flag of being susceptible to extremism, especially since Indian society is liberal and does not force any of the women to wear such arab garments. JMTs.

[ramana]

ThiruV, I think we are missing big picture. Here we have to go to fundamental Abrahamic doctrine of End of Times (EOT).

US despite all its democratic sheen is really a Baptist millenarian society. I.e. one believing in end of times and Armageddon stuff. One theory of why Iraq after Afghanistan was Saddam was the 'chosen' leader for the confrontation and needed to be put down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenarianism


What if ISIS is being allowed to fester to draw in the EOT dregs for confrontation? See the refs to Khorasan etc by the dregs..

[member_29325]

What if ISIS is being allowed to fester to draw in the EOT dregs for confrontation? See the refs to Khorasan etc by the dregs..

ramanaji, there was this illustration posted by a BRFite by the name Acharya a long time ago (he was slightly CT oriented in many things, but not in this instance IMO) which showed a picture of a powerpoint slide from some influential group in the US which illustrated a plan to direct the violent dregs in west asia and west africa eastwards towards asia, in order to provoke a situation of enormous human casualties over time resulting from unstable societies fighting civil wars.

Reality today reminds me of that illustration except these dregs are now moving northwards and eastwards and spreading chaos in stable societies with the likes of George Soros cheering on this chaos. It seems to be in the realm of the possible that all of this chaos has been deliberately planted for some purpose -- I say deliberate because there is no sign from the powers that be to reverse the course of this path to utter chaos and choose the "inaction is action" path. Though I also know that incompetence can be mistaken for purposeful malice very often, so I am not totally sure.

[Singha]

geography is our ally.

if TSP and the gulf arabs want to act as a turkey style conduit for the dregs, they themselves will feel the heat more.
our land border is heavily militarised.
everyone knows we are not rich sugar daddy and our per capita income is lower than most of middle east so govt has no freebies to throw at refugees.

moving north to europe is the only softer option and thats what millions of christian africans unaffected by islamism are also taking. they are fleeing economic conditions.

in the old days such refugee exodus would be militarily repelled at sea. these days its not possible for the hypocrites to do that.

[Prem]

I go back to the triune model of the brain: reptilian, limbic, and neocortex .

LINK to Triune Model of Brain


To recap, Reptilian brain is the basic survival instinct part of the brain. The Limbic processes the emotions and Neocortex allows higher thinking.

Islam suppresses the limbic and kills the neocortex.

No high thinking allowed. Ibn Rushd attested to this by saying the Koran is unchangable.

All those beheading videos are to dull/suppress the limbic brain where emotions rule.

Same with the halal cutting of animal throats at Bakri Id/Ramzan etc.

Chanting prayers while cutting throat is to give divine sanction to a barbaric action.

Hence only the reptilian brain is allowed to exist in Islam.

Hence the new converts to Islam who are prone to extremism are devoid of the limbic and neocortex functions and their reaction is basically reptilian in nature.

Attack everyone at all perceived insults to Islam.


So de-programming has to restore the Limbic and Neocortex functions and assuage the reptilian brains.

----

PS: Abraham and Moses with his Ten commandments also advocated this .

However the Persian captivity turned the Jews Eastward (Isaiah) and nurtured the Limbic and Neocortex.
The Christians went back to the Reptilian model till Reformation and Enlightenment.
Its only after this we find Christianity nurturing higher achievements.

I am gonna tweet this to Ali Sina the Persian Convert.

[ramana]

Please feel free to spread the knawlidg.
More people understand the better its for all of us.

[SSridhar]

Man with suspected IS links held in Delhi - Subhomoy Sikdar, The Hindu

Delhi Police Special Cell has arrested a Mumbai resident for his alleged links with global terror outfit Islamic State (IS). The arrested man, Mohsin, is accused of providing money to four youths from Uttarakhand who were arrested last month.

In January, the police had arrested as Akhlaq ur-Rehman, Mohammed Osama, Mohammed Azim Shah and Mehroz, were arrested from Manglour town in Uttarakhand’s Haridwar district on allegations of trying to strike during the Ardh Kumbh held in the holy city.

He was arrested at ISBT, Kashmere Gate and some money, purportedly channelised through Hawala route, was also seized from him.

Special Commissioner of Police (Special Cell) Arvind Deep said when they met, Mohsin had handed over Rs. 50,000 to Akhlaq. A total of Rs. 85,000 has been seized from Mohsin, he added.

Mohsin is one of the three Mumbai youths who went missing in December last year. Back then, Mumbai Police had said they suspected these youths to have followed the lead of a fourth, who went missing in October that year and is now suspected to be in Kabul, and joined the terror outfit. While two of those three did not leave India and later returned, Mohsin remained untraceable.