Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2015

partha · Post by **partha** » 01 Dec 2015 08:59

That picture of Modi and NS is a good one. It will definitely not go down well in Pakistan. Expect rhona dhona in all those 1000 talk shows they have on "strategic affairs" about how Nawaz Shariff is no match for cunning bania Modi. I get a feeling Modi Govt is trying to exploit Pak army's paranoia and widen the gap between civilians and crore kammandus. This pic suggests Nawaz Shariff is discussing something secret with Modi keeping his army out of the loop. No wonder his staff had to release a statement saying Modi approached Shariff.

Consider this news report below especially the bolded part. Now Barkha Dutt could have found out from her sources about the secret meeting itself but I don't think it's possible for her to find out what was discussed unless it's a deliberate leak from GoI. This secret meeting and the fact that it was arranged by an Indian businessman and also Shariff complaining about his army will only make Pak army think that he is up to something bypassing it. At the very least this will be taken as an insult to H&D.

Could GoI have leaked this news deliberately to worsen the already bad civil military relations in Pakistan? If so, kudos to Modi Govt for being chanikian!

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/mod ... jWnCL.html

A year ago all that the people saw was a quick handshake but away from TV cameras Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his Pakistani counterpart Nawaz Sharif held an hour-long secret meeting on the sidelines of the Saarc summit in Kathmandu.
Both the leaders shared their constraints while agreeing they needed more time and greater political space to move forward with public engagements. The meeting was facilitated by Indian steel magnate Sajjan Jindal, who is the brother of former Congress MP Naveen Jindal.
These revelations have been made by well-known television journalist Barkha Dutt in her debut book, This Unquiet Land — Stories from India’s Fault Lines. HT has exclusive access to the book, which is published by Aleph Books Company and will hit the stores on Wednesday.
Unknown to the media and certainly the public, both Modi and Sharif had found someone to “keep them connected even when things got difficult”, Dutt writes, describing Jindal as an informal messenger serving as a “covert bridge” between the two leaders.

Sharif spoke about “constrictions” imposed on him by the security establishment and how his “negotiating power with the army had been gradually whittled away”.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 01 Dec 2015 16:09

gakakkad wrote:falijee , this was not in good test...a poor non-Paki has been shot by potentially a white supreme-assist..

Gakakkad-ji :
Had seconds thoughts myself - after posting same ; will not repeat same !

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 01 Dec 2015 17:37

Just like Islam Khatre Mein Hai,
This Modi-Nawaz picture is going to cause 'Democracy Khatre Mein Hai' in Al Bakistan - That's how fragile things are there.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 18:02

http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/12/0 ... 9U20151201
Flood-hit Pakistan helps cut India's cotton glut

Pakistan is buying more cotton than expected from India after floods cut its own crop to the smallest in over a decade, opening an opportunity for the world's biggest producer to offload its bulging stockpiles.

Farmers in India have struggled to find buyers over the past year after the world's top cotton consumer China cut import quotas to stimulate demand for its own fibre. The problem has been further exacerbated by near record high Indian output.

But the recent flurry of purchases by Pakistan has pushed up cotton prices in India to above a state-fixed support price in most regions, reducing the pressure on the government to buy from distressed farmers.

India has contracted to export 2 million bales (1 bale = 170 kg) in the marketing year that started on Oct. 1, with Pakistan buying half of that, five dealers told Reuters. Typically, China would account for more than 50 percent of India's shipments.

"We were not expecting such kind of demand from Pakistan," Cotton Association of India President Dhiren Sheth said. "Pakistan could buy another 500,000 to 700,000 bales."

According to industry sources, total cotton imports by Pakistan will more than triple this marketing year, with India cornering a major share given lower transportation costs.

"Due to lower freight, India is the first choice for buyers in Pakistan," said Shahzad Ali Khan, chairman of Pakistan Cotton Ginner's Association.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 18:08

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/30 ... t-polio---

A senior Pakistani health official has been killed when armed assailants opened fire on his vehicle in the country’s northwestern province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa near the border with Afghanistan.

Local Pakistani police officials said that doctor Yaqub Khan, head of the Expanded Program of Immunization in Swabi district of the troubled province, came under attack on Monday when he was driving....

...Pakistan is one of only three countries where polio remains endemic. Figures show that Pakistan recorded 306 cases of polio in 2014, the highest in more than a decade.

Attempts to eradicate the polio have been badly hit by militant attacks on immunization teams.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 18:09

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/world/pakis ... 70696.html

Karachi: Pakistan's electronic media watchdog has started a crackdown against the illegal provision of about 2.5 million Indian Direct-to-Home (DTH) services in the country's major cities ahead of its plans to award official DTH licences to investors. "Already around 3,000 DTH equipments have been seized in Lahore and Islamabad but the major illegal connections are in Karachi," Fakharuddin Mughal, a spokesperson of Pakistan Electronic Media Regulation Authority (PEMRA) said. The crackdown comes as PEMRA is preparing to award official DTH licences to Pakistani investors in December. "This illegal business is worth around USD 150 million annually. Approximately this amount is earned by Indian DTH services and their agents in Pakistan annually from our market," Mughal said.

"The money was moved illegally from Pakistan to Dubai as license and subscription fees by the agents/operators in the country who illegally market and sell Indian DTH services like Tata Sky, Sun Direct, Reliance, Videocon, Dish TV etc," PEMRA's Director General Licensing Wakeel Khan said. "According to a rough estimate there are around one million to 2.5 million users of illegal Indian DTH services in Pakistan most of them concentrated in the big cities like Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad," Wakeel said.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 18:12

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/a ... 934563.ece
"As BSF, Pakistan Rangers talk, cross-border firing comes down from 589 to 3"

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 18:15

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-2 ... r-Pakistan?

It was music to the ears to hear our Prime Minister offering Pakistan’s anti-terrorist expertise to French President Francois Hollande when he called on him in Maltese capital to offer his condolences on the recent Paris terrorist attacks. he extended to France Pakistan’s cooperation in counter-terrorism and the field of intelligence sharing. After all we have now come to be some sort of experts on terrorism having come of age fighting terrorists of all sorts for so long.

But this author opened with the paragraph:

Not long ago—Pakistan was branded as epicentre of global terrorism. Quite a large number of terrorists arrested outside Pakistan in different countries—were either of Pakistani origin foreign nationals or their links some how could be traced to Pakistan. Either they had flown into Pakistan to “get indoctrinated into Taliban ideology” or receive specialised training in terrorism.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 18:21

Complaints from the Pakistani Planning Ministry:
http://nation.com.pk/business/01-Dec-20 ... s-briefing

The government is working on three LNG power plants in Punjab which are projected to generate a total of 3,600MW.Two projects are funded by the federal government while the government of Punjab is funding the third power plant, the official said.

The Planning Commission will never recommend setting up a power plant with imported LNG in Punjab as now the government will construct a multibillion dedicated 750 km pipeline from Port Qasim up to these power plants.. “We are in favor of setting up LNG power plant at coastal area near the LNG importing terminal. Similarly the Planning Commission would never recommend construction of coal operated power plant at Sahiwal.

The best locations for LNG and coal power plants are Balochistan and Sindh but the government wants to bring these projects any way to Punjab.

The only logic behind the government decision, to construct these power plants in Punjab, is these locations are near the load centers, but there was also another cheap solution to resolve the load centre problem. For example, there are quite a few thermal power plants already operating in Punjab with low efficiency and instead of installing new power plants the government can upgrade their efficiency. But there is no logic behind the decision for constructing a coal powered plant in Sahiwal as it requires huge investment to transport coal, via rail, from Gwadar to Sahiwal and will also destroy the environment, the official said.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 01 Dec 2015 18:21

partha wrote:That picture of Modi and NS is a good one. It will definitely not go down well in Pakistan. Expect rhona dhona in all those 1000 talk shows they have on "strategic affairs" about how Nawaz Shariff is no match for cunning bania Modi. I get a feeling Modi Govt is trying to exploit Pak army's paranoia and widen the gap between civilians and crore kammandus. This pic suggests Nawaz Shariff is discussing something secret with Modi keeping his army out of the loop. No wonder his staff had to release a statement saying Modi approached Shariff.

Consider this news report below especially the bolded part. Now Barkha Dutt could have found out from her sources about the secret meeting itself but I don't think it's possible for her to find out what was discussed unless it's a deliberate leak from GoI. This secret meeting and the fact that it was arranged by an Indian businessman and also Shariff complaining about his army will only make Pak army think that he is up to something bypassing it. At the very least this will be taken as an insult to H&D.

Could GoI have leaked this news deliberately to worsen the already bad civil military relations in Pakistan? If so, kudos to Modi Govt for being chanikian!

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/mod ... jWnCL.html
A year ago all that the people saw was a quick handshake but away from TV cameras Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his Pakistani counterpart Nawaz Sharif held an hour-long secret meeting on the sidelines of the Saarc summit in Kathmandu.
Both the leaders shared their constraints while agreeing they needed more time and greater political space to move forward with public engagements. The meeting was facilitated by Indian steel magnate Sajjan Jindal, who is the brother of former Congress MP Naveen Jindal.
These revelations have been made by well-known television journalist Barkha Dutt in her debut book, This Unquiet Land — Stories from India’s Fault Lines. HT has exclusive access to the book, which is published by Aleph Books Company and will hit the stores on Wednesday.
Unknown to the media and certainly the public, both Modi and Sharif had found someone to “keep them connected even when things got difficult”, Dutt writes, describing Jindal as an informal messenger serving as a “covert bridge” between the two leaders.

Sharif spoke about “constrictions” imposed on him by the security establishment and how his “negotiating power with the army had been gradually whittled away”.

someone should scan and upload this book to multiple warez sites so as to bury the sales.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 18:30

Elections, even in Pakistan, reported on by Iran, are nevertheless soul-stirring things - always bringing a little hope, however tiny.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/30 ... -elections
(the main item there is a video about the local elections in Islamabad).

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 18:32

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1001731/ban ... ng-others/
"Banana killing fungus found in Pakistan, among others "

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Dec 2015 18:33

Child sex "boy sex" in Pakistan described in teh video as one of the most important Muslim countries, nuclear power and "democracy"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSrH09l ... e=youtu.be

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 18:35

http://www.uscirf.gov/news-room/press-r ... ck-ahmadis

“USCIRF strongly condemns this attack against the Ahmadi Muslim community and is saddened by reports that people are fleeing their homes in fear for their lives,” said USCIRF Chairman Robert P. George. “While the Pakistani government reportedly has dispatched the army to restore peace and detained more than 40 suspects, the government needs to do much more to stem the climate of impunity that pervades Pakistan. To these ends and as a first step, the government should provide protection to the Ahmadi community and denounce language clerics use that incites hatred and violence.”

EJs vs the original Js.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 18:38

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-20588 ... MF-targets
"Pakistan aims to raise $379 million in new taxes to meet IMF targets"

In its last review, the International Monetary Fund had warned that the release of December´s approved $502 million tranche depended on the announcement of new measures to generate an extra 40 billion Pakistan rupees ($380 million) in revenue.
...
The government will levy an additional 5 to 10 percentage points of tax on 350 items and raise customs duty by 1 percentage point, Finance Minister Ishaq Dar said at a press conference in the federal capital.

The full list of items was not immediately available.
...
Separate increased taxes were also announced on imported automobiles - both new and used - and domestically-produced cigarettes.
...
Husain said if the measures did not raise enough funds, the government would have to raise taxes on staples such as electricity and petrol.

http://nation.com.pk/national/01-Dec-20 ... -on-masses

The minister said that increase in duties has been made to meet shortfall of revenue. “We have kept in mind not to increase duties that would make items more expensive for the common man,” he said, though the list of items on which taxes has been imposed/enhanced belied his claim. The items on which the duty has been enhanced included packed or imported yogurt, butter, dairy spreads, cheese, natural honey, pineapples, guavas, mangoes, orange, lemons, apples, cherries, peaches, strawberries, pomegranates, lichis, dried fruits, chewing gum, cocoa powder, macaroni, vermicelli, pasta, corn flakes, sweet biscuits, waffles and wafers, rusks, cucumbers, pickles, tomatoes, tomatoes paste, potatoes and other vegetables, soya sauce, tomato ketchup and other tomato sauces.

The list also included ice cream, syrups and squashes, mineral waters, dog or cat food, perfumes, lip makeup, eye makeup, nail polish, face powder, talcum powder, face and skin creams, lotions, shampoos, hair dyes, tooth paste, deodorants, soap in other forms, marble, granite and other stone, waste and scrap of tinned iron or steel, semi-finished products of iron or non- alloy steel, bars and rods, hot-rolled, in irregularly wound coils, of iron or non-alloy steel.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 18:43

Milkha Singh:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/spor ... 983258.cms

That a man whose parents were hacked to death in front of his eyes in the aftermath of India-Pakistan partition, is championing the message of love between India and Pakistan does seem intriguing. Does that mean he has made peace with the ghosts of murder of his family members? Not quite. "No. Losing my family in those riots is still as fresh in mind and haunts to this day. But the partition of India and the violence that ensued was a of dirty politics, not the will of the people. If you ask me, India and Pakistan should never have been divided, it was just petty political upmanship at play, the consequences of which the poor people of both countries had to bear unfortunately," he exclaims.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 18:46

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/paki ... 34268.html
"Pakistan's ISI trained students to use social media for JuD, LeT propaganda
US national security sources in Washington said they have fresh evidence of the spy agency training people to engage in a social media war on behalf of these banned terror groups on Facebook and Twitter."

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 01 Dec 2015 18:47

Click image for Punjabi/Urdu version

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 18:49

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/national/3 ... -concludes

Pakistan Navy’s (PN) major maritime exercise Seaspark 2015 conducted in Arabian Sea involving all navy units including ships, submarines and aircraft along with Special Forces and Marines concluded in Karachi on Monday.

Pakistan Air Force (PAF), Pakistan Army Air Defence and Pakistan Maritime Security Agency (PMSA) participated in the exercise.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 18:51

http://www.dawn.com/news/1223260

The practice of illegally crossing the borders of Iran, Turkey and then Greece to enter Europe has been going on for decades in Gujranwala region and the authorities in Pakistan have failed to curb it. It witnessed a sharp increase during the last four to six months after Germany and other European countries had announced asylum for the Syrian, Iraqi and Afghani refugees and, according to an estimate, at least 35,000 Pakistani nationals have so far crossed into Europe in the disguise of Syrian refugees.
...

Sharing his story, Shan Ahmed, who belongs to Gujrat city and had been deported from Turkey around two weeks ago, said he and around 100 other illegal Pakistanis mainly belonging to Gujrat, Mandi Bahauddin, Sialkot and Gujranwala had introduced themselves as the nationals of Myanmar and Kashmir when they were caught by the authorities in the waters of Greece after crossing the limits of Turkish side of the ocean.

“One of the detained men who belonged to Sialkot district had revealed to the Turkish authorities that all of them belonged to Pakistan since he knew the Turkish language very well for being settled as a factory worker near Istanbul for more than two years. Had he not revealed the nationality of the group of detained people, the authorities would have set us free after brief interrogation, thus, giving another chance to those who wanted to try their luck once more through crossing the border,” said Ahmed.

He said they were all deported by the authorities after being kept in confinement for around a month at a camp, where the authorities told them that Pakistan was not among the war-zone countries and did have a better economic condition compared to Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq, that’s why Pakistanis were being deported.

Asked why the immigrants from the countries like India and Iran, which also have better economic conditions and are not among the troubled zones, are not being deported, he said the Turkish authorities responded that “Pakistanis come in large numbers and groups, whereas the people from the other Southeast Asian countries come in small groups.”

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Dec 2015 18:53

shiv wrote:Child sex "boy sex" in Pakistan described in teh video as one of the most important Muslim countries, nuclear power and "democracy"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSrH09l ... e=youtu.be

Wacthing urban scenes in this video reminds me that for reasons that we seldom discuss or figure out there are astoundingly large economic connections between India and Pakistan - not just history. I am actually talking of things that have appeared in India in the last 20 years - which seem unique to India but are seen in Pakistan as well. For example the concrete blocks on the edge of the pavement - the dies/moulds for them must be of the same standard in India and Pakistan. there is some common manufacturer or supplier. The green painted autos again are definitelyassembled from a common stock and I am sure spares come from common sources.

The news below is about Indian cotton glut being bought up by Pakistan
http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/12/0 ... 9U20151201

There is a thriving legal and illegal trade with Pakistan - and reports say that much of it is via the gulf. I don't know. i don't read about companies that are doing business with Pakistan but I suspect that many brand names that I see very day must be doing business there. I have occasionally seen Pakistani stalls at handicraft fairs, even in Bangalore. This is an unexplored area as far as we are concerned.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 18:58

^^^ There are regular Pakistani participants in the International Trade Fair in Delhi, some posts about it upthread. Also upthread, 2.5 million instances of Pakistani subscribers to "Indian DTH services like Tata Sky, Sun Direct, Reliance, Videocon, Dish TV", with subscription fees routed via the Gulf.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 01 Dec 2015 19:06

body lang analysis
Nawaz: edge of sofa,open hand on table,looking down,legs open
Guilty feeling,not in power, giving up
modiJi: Sitting bit more comfortably,hand covering mouth looking far across Nawaz
Not expecting Nawaz to be so frank and give up that easily. He is stunned and careful. Either his talk was too tough Nawaz gave up easily and Modi ji is in some regret. Trying to hold his fire. Or he came to know something he could never imagined.......such as likely coup in Bakistan or Army giving Nuke to SA etc

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 19:10

Pakistan: New wave of rape, abduction and forced conversion:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO1511/S ... ersion.htm

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Dec 2015 19:27

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-6 ... n-Pakistan

Dr. Ashraf said that according to UN estimates there are 97,000 to 125,000 HIV positive persons in Pakistan whereas an estimated 50,000 cases are from the Punjab province. From 2005 to 2014, the country averaged a 16 per cent annual increase in rates of new HIV/AIDS infections, ultimately rising from less than 1 case per 100,000 to 6.7 per 100,000.

nirav · Post by **nirav** » 01 Dec 2015 21:26

shiv wrote: The news below is about Indian cotton glut being bought up by Pakistan
http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/12/0 ... 9U20151201

There is a thriving legal and illegal trade with Pakistan - and reports say that much of it is via the gulf. I don't know. i don't read about companies that are doing business with Pakistan but I suspect that many brand names that I see very day must be doing business there. I have occasionally seen Pakistani stalls at handicraft fairs, even in Bangalore. This is an unexplored area as far as we are concerned.

There was a lot of opposition to Indo-Pak cricket as it was alleged that money made by PCB would eventually go to fund terrorism against India.

Trade with Pakistan is a reality. Its a major market for us specially in the power and entertainment and automobile sector. In my opinion its the only way to normalize things with Pakistan over a longer time span into the future.

Once mango Pakistanis start reaping benefits of trade with India, hopefully the mindset of their young will be moulded differently compared to madrassa kids.

for now, short sighted abduls in their decision making are yet to grant India MFN status.

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 01 Dec 2015 21:28

shiv wrote:
shiv wrote:Child sex "boy sex" in Pakistan described in teh video as one of the most important Muslim countries, nuclear power and "democracy"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSrH09l ... e=youtu.be
Wacthing urban scenes in this video reminds me that for reasons that we seldom discuss or figure out there are astoundingly large economic connections between India and Pakistan - not just history. I am actually talking of things that have appeared in India in the last 20 years - which seem unique to India but are seen in Pakistan as well. For example the concrete blocks on the edge of the pavement - the dies/moulds for them must be of the same standard in India and Pakistan. there is some common manufacturer or supplier. The green painted autos again are definitelyassembled from a common stock and I am sure spares come from common sources.

The news below is about Indian cotton glut being bought up by Pakistan
http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/12/0 ... 9U20151201

There is a thriving legal and illegal trade with Pakistan - and reports say that much of it is via the gulf. I don't know. i don't read about companies that are doing business with Pakistan but I suspect that many brand names that I see very day must be doing business there. I have occasionally seen Pakistani stalls at handicraft fairs, even in Bangalore. This is an unexplored area as far as we are concerned.

The auto rickshaws, maruti 800s, the old maruti bread box vans that you see all over Pakistan..are re-exported through Dubai. Numerous products including fruit juices, electronics, automotive products (including bikes, scooters, auto rickshaws, batteries, tyres, cars and small pickup trucks), consumer durables are exported by Indian companies (after being sources from names such as Godrej, Hero, TVS, Maruti Suzuki etc etc)..sent to Dubai...rebranded as the products are white-branded (meaning all decals and brands are redone)..and then sent onwards to Pakistan.

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 01 Dec 2015 21:46

Docji had opened my eyes to a reality about Pakistan a couple of years ago on these pages
As per my own uderstanding and words:
The land of present Pukistan was in tight integration with the land across their eastern border. Non-restricted flow of everything (life-sustaining) has been interrupted by the border and hence in fact that mass of land is slowly dying due to choking. There wasn't much to look for from the land west of it and neither there is now.
A lot of trade is happening via companies and front-companies registered in the UAE as per discussion here. No surprises there.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 01 Dec 2015 21:54

Well kenop-ji
The pakistanis did what ever they have done, to themselves, with their eyes open wide.
Their overwhelming hatred for India, consumed them, they let their faujis take control.
They were never visionaries to begin with, just crass opportunists - and history is very unforgiving.

They might have survived, flourished even, if they had made their hard choices.
These days they are taking inspiration from the chinese.

They are located strategically as they so lovingly state all the time.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 01 Dec 2015 22:01

So Raheel Sharif's mentor Musharraf has given his blessings for a coup.
Modi might be saying, "Khabar hai ki Christmas-New Year se pehle kuch plan ho raha hai"
Nawaz doesn't quite know what to say. Maybe wants a cricket series, improved trade, good relations. Almost feel sorry for the guy

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 01 Dec 2015 22:02

http://www.dawn.com/news/1223534/two-mi ... in-karachi
Two Military Police officials shot dead in Karachi
(Operation Jai Muhajir Begin)

KARACHI: Two Military Police (MP) official were killed on Tuesday after their vehicle was fired upon by unidentified gunmen near Tibet Centre on MA Jinnah road.The two attackers, riding motorcycles, immediately fled the scene, which is near the Preedy Police Station, said eye witnesses.Security officials have cordoned off the area while forensic officials have reached the spot to collect evidence that will aid the investigation. ( No water hoses to wash the spot)The area was partially sealed.The Pakistan Army Military Police (MP) is the law-enforcement branch of the army and are responsible for maintaining law and order with in the army. All branches of the armed forces have their own branch of police.MA Jinnah road is a major artery of the metropolis and is usually congested during the day.b]A high-level apex committee meeting chaired by the Chief of Army Staff Gen Raheel Sharif on May 14, 2015 decided to implement effective policing and surveillance in the "vast suburbs of Karachi", to prevent what the military spokesperson said were "sneaking terrorist attacks".[/b]Amid resentment and criticism from certain political circles over the ‘Karachi operation’, the military establishment in August said that there would be no let-up in actions by law enforcement agencies “to ensure a peaceful and terror-free Karachi”.

sampat · Post by **sampat** » 01 Dec 2015 22:04

nirav wrote:
Once mango Pakistanis start reaping benefits of trade with India, hopefully the mindset of their young will be moulded differently compared to madrassa kids.

for now, short sighted abduls in their decision making are yet to grant India MFN status.

That's a wishful thinking. Their hatred for kaffir hindus is ingrained in their DNA. No amount of trade or goodwill will help change that. Pakis will only do taqqiya.

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 01 Dec 2015 22:08

rsingh wrote:body lang analysis
Nawaz: edge of sofa,open hand on table,looking down,legs open
Guilty feeling,not in power, giving up
modiJi: Sitting bit more comfortably,hand covering mouth looking far across Nawaz
Not expecting Nawaz to be so frank and give up that easily. He is stunned and careful. Either his talk was too tough Nawaz gave up easily and Modi ji is in some regret. Trying to hold his fire. Or he came to know something he could never imagined.......such as likely coup in Bakistan or Army giving Nuke to SA etc

My anal_as_is

Nawaz is bullshitting and trying to gain sympathy. Mooodi is zoned out and trying to stop an oncoming burp.

-M

Abhay_S · Post by **Abhay_S** » 01 Dec 2015 22:17

Jhujar wrote:http://www.dawn.com/news/1223534/two-mi ... in-karachi
Two Military Police officials shot dead in Karachi
(Operation Jai Muhajir Begin)
KARACHI: Two Military Police (MP) official were killed on Tuesday after their vehicle was fired upon by unidentified gunmen near Tibet Centre on MA Jinnah road.The two attackers, riding motorcycles, immediately fled the scene, which is near the Preedy Police Station, said eye witnesses.Security officials have cordoned off the area while forensic officials have reached the spot to collect evidence that will aid the investigation. ( No water hoses to wash the spot)The area was partially sealed.The Pakistan Army Military Police (MP) is the law-enforcement branch of the army and are responsible for maintaining law and order with in the army. All branches of the armed forces have their own branch of police.MA Jinnah road is a major artery of the metropolis and is usually congested during the day.b]A high-level apex committee meeting chaired by the Chief of Army Staff Gen Raheel Sharif on May 14, 2015 decided to implement effective policing and surveillance in the "vast suburbs of Karachi", to prevent what the military spokesperson said were "sneaking terrorist attacks".[/b]Amid resentment and criticism from certain political circles over the ‘Karachi operation’, the military establishment in August said that there would be no let-up in actions by law enforcement agencies “to ensure a peaceful and terror-free Karachi”.

looks like the Race is on between Jinhapur, balochistan and pashtunistan.

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 01 Dec 2015 22:30

rsingh wrote:body lang analysis
Nawaz: edge of sofa,open hand on table,looking down,legs open
Guilty feeling,not in power, giving up
modiJi: Sitting bit more comfortably,hand covering mouth looking far across Nawaz
Not expecting Nawaz to be so frank and give up that easily. He is stunned and careful. Either his talk was too tough Nawaz gave up easily and Modi ji is in some regret. Trying to hold his fire. Or he came to know something he could never imagined.......such as likely coup in Bakistan or Army giving Nuke to SA etc

To me it looks like a RAW agent giving briefings to his handler

-M

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 01 Dec 2015 23:13

In Pakistani city, reputation for forged passports flourishes

GUJRAT, Pakistan — Walk the windswept streets, and you'll hear the same thing no matter who's talking. There is, they say in Gujrat, an itch — to go elsewhere, to join loved ones overseas, to seek fortunes that can't be found on the rutted streets of home.

The people of this teeming city on central Pakistan's Punjabi plain ache to travel to other countries. And in a post-Sept. 11 era when Western visas are harder than ever to come by, Gujratis have a reputation for finding a way.

"Anywhere you go in the world, if you find Pakistanis with fake documents, you'll find someone from Gujrat," said Mirza, who runs a travel agency on the grounds of Gujrat's sports stadium and has six British Airways outstanding sales performance certificates on his wall. He wouldn't give his last name.

"They have very good printing presses. And they have very good forgers," said Javaid Shani, a supervisor in Gujrat's police department.
said Saturday. "If the inspectors at the airport have a difficult time identifying the fakes, how can our people do it well?"
Reported prices in Pakistan have ranged from $220 for a fake Egyptian visa to $25,000 for customers who want to go to the United States.(these are 2003 prices; what with the "increase in demand, inflation, increased terrorism, Shia-Sunni trouble, economic meltdown etc, you can imagine 2015 prices !)
Travel agents interviewed in Gujrat on Saturday said they only book tickets and don't deal with documents, which they say are handled directly between travelers and the embassies of their destination countries.
But all said forgery is a local specialty, and some complained they're held responsible and even fined if they issue one-way tickets to travelers discovered with doctored papers.

Complete documents cost more, both said, and some forgers even accompany their customers aboard planes and swap passports in flight.

"Countries like ours, we are underdeveloped. Our people want new opportunities," said Nishat ul-Haq, a Gujrat native who has family in England. "We're not all bad people, us Pakistanis."

Gujrat is brimming with tantalizing hints that an outside world exists — Pepsi and Kodak and Honda signs, kiosks selling telephone cards to call relatives abroad, and advertisement after advertisement for Pakistan International Airlines.

It also offers sights that would make Americans uneasy — Kalashnikov assault rifles on display in gun store windows on the Zahoor Ellahi Stadium grounds, just doors from the travel agencies that would dispatch people to other lands.

Though many say relaxing visa requirements would solve matters, that's unlikely any time soon. Besides, says Shani, the police officer, that could cause another problem entirely.

"If there were not these restrictions," he said, smiling wanly, "half of Pakistan would leave."( this was 2003 estimate; so you can extrapolate for 2015 )[/quote]

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 01 Dec 2015 23:26

Paki National Airline Fails To Implement Airborne Collision Avoidance System

SLAMABAD (Staff Report) – A PIA spokesman Tuesday clarified that airline’s flight operation to UAE is going on smoothly as all Boeing 777 and six A-320 of its fleet since they already have the new Airborne Collision Avoidance System.
Talking about media reports vis-à-vis imposition of restrictions on the use of UAEs airspace without upgrading to new Airborne Collision Avoidance System (ACAS), he said that UAE authorities had imposed these restrictions giving three days notice to PIA to upgrade its aircraft using their airspace to the new ACAS version.
The spokesman said the PIA has applied for waiver for A-310 and remaining A-320 aircraft till April next year.
Meanwhile, the PIA Chairman has asked the concerned department to speed up efforts to upgrade the remaining aircraft to this version of ACAS.

Airline management "assures" jittery passengers, but what surety is going to be there that the pilots are "driving sober"

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 Dec 2015 04:27

The deepening textile crisis
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9 ... ile-crisis
( Why worry, Chinese textile Export is also Paki textile Export)

Those who want to know what is really happening to the nation’s economy – particularly to its productive sectors – have to search hard to find, tucked between other business news. There is a statement by the chief coordinator of the Pakistan Ready-made Garments Manufacturers and Exporters Association warning of a slow death of Pakistan’s clothing industry if it is not provided a level playing field vis-a-vis competitors like China, India, Bangladesh.The following day you are treated to a fuller report on the tribulations of the entire textile sector that has been the backbone of our industry and exports since independence. If the federal and provincial leaders in power gave one-tenth of the time and energy they devote to terrorism, law and order issues or endless politicking, they can achieve major gains in boosting agricultural and industrial output. The jobs thus created or saved can have a salutary effect on a burgeoning number of the jobless who end up joining nurseries of terrorist and criminal gangs.
The current obsession with the military aspect of the fight against terrorism and extremism is tantamount to abandoning the socio-political means of resolving the problem. Take for instance the latest action against militant hideouts in Tirah resulting in the death of 21 terrorists. It is troubling to know that a year and ahalf after the launch of Pakistan’s most ambitious anti-terror operation, there are still hundreds of militants resisting, hiding and getting killed in North Waziristan. Meanwhile, others continue to hit Karachi, Balochistan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and the tribal belt on a daily basis.
It would appear Operation Zarb-e-Azb is not that close to a successful completion. While the military and paramilitary operations go ahead, the political track has reached a dead-end. Both civil and military authorities are not saying much about activating contacts with the militants for surrendering arms and pockets of territory. The costs of fighting an internal conflict without recourse to political and psychological means can have long-term negative consequences.It is about time the administration took on economic challenges on a ‘war footing’ as in curbing terrorism and extremism. Is our agriculture doomed to suffer from chronic low productivity forever? The industries remain seriously handicapped due to the lack of a framework to encourage fair practices. Myriad government agencies harass industry owners, forcing most to engage in deceit or fraud to keep their heads above water. All this goes on while smuggled goods are ravaging the country under the watch of the same agencies.

sum · Post by **sum** » 02 Dec 2015 04:40

Pakistan Navy’s (PN) major maritime exercise Seaspark 2015 conducted in Arabian Sea involving all navy units including ships, submarines and aircraft along with Special Forces and Marines concluded in Karachi on Monday.

Not named excercise "stop saffron bandit swimmer" unlike earlier ones?

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 02 Dec 2015 05:13

Pakistani couple jailed in Germany for 'honour killing'

Jo La-whore mae Gaxxdu, woho Daramstaadt mae bhi Gaxxdu ho Ga