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Angre wrote: How is the CY speed, orientation and exact placement in the orbital plane determined? Is it solely by the orbital motion laws or is there something else CY has (star sensor?) that is used to plot the position?
Angre, Keplerian Model is an extremely good approximation. That is not enough for accurate orbital injection though, especially into that of another planet or a satellite like the moon. This post will give you insight into the reasons why and what other techniques are used to refine orbital calculations. A completely anlytical solution is impossible because it is a 4-body problem (while Keplerian model is 2-body) which is also perturbed by solar wind, J2 & C22 terms. The J2 is caused by the equatorial bulge of the Earth (equatorial diameter being larger by about 26 Kms than the polar) and the C22 is caused by mass concentrations in the moon. Besides, the prolonged duration of LAM firing (instead of point firing) also perturbs the orbit.

Having said that, Keplerian laws are still useful to devise the initial design of the trajectory. The Earth-Moon trajectory has been studied as a two conic section problem, one for the earthbound and the other for the lunar bound. For the lunarbound conic section, it is a hyperbola since the spacecraft is assumed to be coming from infinity.
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SSridhar wrote: ...
Having said that, Keplerian laws are still useful to devise the initial design of the trajectory. The Earth-Moon trajectory has been studied as a two conic section problem, one for the earthbound and the other for the lunar bound. For the lunarbound conic section, it is a hyperbola since the spacecraft is assumed to be coming from infinity.
Is this what is referred to as a "hyperbolic passage?"
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a_kumar wrote: ...
SMART-1 approach was first tried on Japanese first lunar mission (Infact, this approach somewhat salvaged a failed mission). Uses something called low energy orbits.. blew my mind when I read it.
First Japanese Lunar Mission : Hiten - 1991
Low Energy Transfers
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A picture of interplanetary "superhighway" from wiki link below.
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Interplanetary Transport Network
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Some stupendous links have you given, a_kumar ! :)
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vina wrote:Dont know Arun_S.. But I would think that in this day and age, mechanical gyros will not used and it would be ring laser gyros, which have no mechanical parts /moving parts, so the drift should be next to zero or very very small indeed. Yeah, stuff like accelerometers, momentum wheels and other stuff, will have mechanical losses and drift, but a true INS systems (not the open loop strap down one, where you would start integrating measured readings would have far less drift and errors. I think the sun and star sensors should be vital for attitude control and pointing and orienting etc, rather than for navigating through space..

Usual disclaimers about not being an expert, just armchair speculator etc, seriously apply here.
After few 100 hrs of operation even Ring Laser will wander, and be no good for attitude/pointing. AFAIK optical means is the only way for a space body to know its intertial orientation. Without that use of LAM propulsion is like shooting rifle from the hip (aka end result has no useful precision on a target 100 yds away).

As for precise velocity and position control required for orbit transfer (where the acceleration is so weak), all except the instruments used for mapping earths gravity gradients will fall short. Absolute position precision brought in by Celestial Nav w.r.t. the total mass, IMHO its is the magic bullet for all deep space (i.e. everything but the low earth orbit) missions.

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Chandrayaan takes pictures of moon
On Tuesday evening, when the spacecraft was in the lunar transfer orbit, it photographed the crescent moon from a distance of some 2.5 lakh km . . . . .M. Annadurai, Project Director, Chandrayaan-1, said: “The pictures were taken when the spacecraft was more than 2.5 lakh km away from the moon. We did again the entire chain of tests of the 11 instruments, data handling, data storage, downlinking, radio frequency and so on.”
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http://www.hindu.com/seta/2008/11/06/st ... 031400.htm

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How Chandrayaan-1 will help compile a 3D atlas

R. PRASAD

he Terrain Mapping Camera (TMC) on-board Chandrayaan-1 is a unique demonstration of space scientists’ ingenuity. It will be able to produce a 3D atlas of the moon using a single camera. The resolution will be 5 metres. This will help to prepare a 3D atlas with a unprecedented high-resolution.

Developed indigenously

Developed by the Ahmedabad based Space Applications Centre, the TMC will be able to image the moon’s surface from three directions — vertically down view, forward view and backward view along the path of the spacecraft’s orbit. The three view imaging feature of TMC is the first among ISRO’s remote sensing payloads.

“The three different views become possible as the camera picks up data from three different angles,” said Dr. Kiran Kumar A.S., Deputy Director, Sensor Development Area, Space Applications Centre, Ahmedabad. “The three images are picked up simultaneously from three different angles by the Terrain Mapping Camera.”

The data will enable the preparation of a three dimensional lunar atlas. For 3D information, at least 2 views of the region from different angles are required.

Overcoming occlusion

The three views of TMC will ensure that regions on slope where the viewing angle is smaller than the slope is not occluded, as the image of the slope will be available by the third view.

One would normally need three cameras to image a feature simultaneously from three different angles. So how does the Terrain Imaging Camera manage to do it with just one camera?

“It is due to the innovative design of the camera,” Dr. Kumar said. “A set of two mirrors in the camera are used to provide two angles apart from the nadir [view from the top] view.”

While a normal camera of four mega pixels would have 2,000 by 2,000 elements, the Terrain Mapping Camera does not capture data the same way. “We don’t get one frame at a time but one single line,” he said.

The 4,000 pixels (1 pixel covers an area of 5 metre x 5 metre from a height of 100 km from the moon) in the Terrain Mapping Camera are arranged in a linear manner. While the spacecraft moves in north-south polar orbit, the camera covers a width of 20 km in an east-west direction.

The swath

Hence the area covered in an instant is 5 m x 20 km (4,000 by 5 metres). This is called the swath. “We can map 4,000 elements by 5 metres (20 km swath) in one instant and the next moment we move to cover another 5 metres,” Dr. Kumar explained. An area of 1.5 km of the moon is imaged in one second.

All the three views generate a 2-D image, as each view covers north-south and east-west directions (X, Y directions). And a 3-D view of a point can be generated by combining the 2-D data by using data from any of the two views.

Since the three views of the camera are in the same direction of the spacecraft movement, a point lying in the path of the orbit is covered by all the three views. “Combining all the 3 views provides more details and takes care of the occlusion problem,” said A Roy Chowdhury, Head, Geo & Planetary Sensor Electronics Division and Instrument Scientist TMC & HySI, Chandrayaan-1 at Space Applications Centre.

The spacecraft will take nearly two hours to complete one north-south polar orbit. But the moon will not be imaged continuously for the full two hours of the orbit.

The solar illumination changes as the moon moves in its orbit. So the imaging time is limited to minimise the variation of illumination conditions.

Prime imaging period

Limiting the solar aspect angle to 30 degrees on either side of the equator will result in a prime imaging period of just 60 days in six months.

“We will get two slots of 60 days each in a year. We will pick up data during these two slots,” said Dr. Kumar.

So this results “in imaging for only 20 minutes per six visible orbits from the Indian ground station to cover the whole moon.”

The area covered during 20 minutes of imaging will be 1,800 km (1.5 km will be imaged in a second).

These are some of the reasons why the mission period is two years though imaging the moon can theoretically be completed in 28 days — the time taken by the moon to complete one rotation.

The camera has four exposure settings and this lets the camera record data from areas not well illuminated by the sun, particularly those lying in higher latitudes up to the poles.

While increasing the exposure time would allow imaging the less lit areas, the spacecraft will be moving during such long exposures. This will result in coarser resolution of the images.

The 3D atlas with a unprecedented high resolution will help in better understanding of the moon’s evolution process.

It will also help researchers to identify regions of the moon for detailed study. The images will also “be an important input for analysing data from other scientific instruments on Chandrayaan-1.
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Chandrayaan Image gallery
No photos of moon or earth here still but lot of photos of equipments.
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No reference to this on the ISRO site nor can I find the actual images. Help? :cry:

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From the post above by Nitesh,
The 4,000 pixels (1 pixel covers an area of 5 metre x 5 metre from a height of 100 km from the moon) in the Terrain Mapping Camera . . . . .
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Bolasani wrote:
No reference to this on the ISRO site nor can I find the actual images. Help? :cry:

Bharat
I think we need to wait.
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I am not a big fan of ISRO's website. It needs revamping among other things. Sometimes one gets the news faster from news organizations than ISRO's website.
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I am having trouble finding any pics that Chang'e 1 has taken. Went to deff n dumb and there was hardly any info like we see for Chandrayaan. The only talk i saw was India will never have a moon mission for a 100 years to forever. There were some faint suspicions over the timeline as no news on the lunar mission was given for some time. Then they posted 2 pics of the moon surface..it seems because the people wanted to know. They were shown to the premier. With how much clarity can we focus on the moon from Earth and take pics out? Can other Deep Space Networks make out whats circling the moon? Can our deep space network say detect Change or Kaguya? Or do they only link up to their own circling object on cryptic frequencies? Just curious,
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IDSN did track kaguya and ROSETTA a while back. I doubt china will want anything regarding success or failure of chang-e to be revealed.
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vavinash wrote:IDSN did track kaguya and ROSETTA a while back. I doubt china will want anything regarding success or failure of chang-e to be revealed.
China certainly would like the entire world to know of the success of Chang'e - it would holler from the rooftops. Either something went wrong, or for some reason they are not releasing the photographs
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hey.. again china talk here. cut it off!. let them sleep in space above below or underneath. not here.
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SaiK wrote:hey.. again china talk here. cut it off!. let them sleep in space above below or underneath. not here.
GUD one!! :rotfl:
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Found this interesting earth-rise clip taken by kaguya last month.

http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2008/10/20081009_kaguya_e.html
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Arunkumar wrote:Found this interesting earth-rise clip taken by kaguya last month.

http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2008/10/20081009_kaguya_e.html
That is one hell pathetic photoshopped image ever made... the japanese video game industry comes handy there.
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Gents pls stick to Indian Chandrayaan mission; no point in discussing and running down Chinese or Japanese mission.

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http://www.chandrayaan.bharatchronicle. ... on-images/

first image of moon, by chandrayaan!! hooray!
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RavinM wrote:http://www.chandrayaan.bharatchronicle. ... on-images/

first image of moon, by chandrayaan!! hooray!
Man! This is exciting! Is that image taken by Chandrayaan, or is it put there to beef up the article?
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Don't think so....
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ok, one layman question; why E.T. images transmitted by a spacecraft are always black n white?
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that looks like a shot taken from earth. When ISRO releases one, I will believe it.
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Chandrayaan, a space-age enterprise: Kapil Sibal
The Minister was answering questions at a meeting organised by the Singapore-based India Business Forum (IBF)

Asked about the economic ‘viability’ of the ongoing project, Mr. Sibal said here on Thursday “there are some things that benchmark what Indian excellence stands for.” In fact, Chandrayaan-1 was carrying an American scientific “payload.” And, it was “not just the Americans” in this category.

Hailing Chandrayaan-1 as a space-age “enterprise,” Union Science and Technology Minister Kapil Sibal said “the mission to the moon should not be looked at from an economic standpoint.”
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Cybaru wrote:that looks like a shot taken from earth. When ISRO releases one, I will believe it.
This article has the following -
... On Tuesday evening, when the spacecraft was in the lunar transfer orbit, it photographed the crescent moon from a distance of some 2.5 lakh km. ...
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sumishi wrote:Is this what is referred to as a "hyperbolic passage?"
At the perigee, there are three 'cosmic velocities'. These velocities are accurately known for planets and the moon. The first cosmic velocity defines a circular orbit (anything less than that will be a ballistic flight falling back to Earth). The second cosmic velocity is the escape velocity from the planet which defines the parabolic flight. In between these two cosmic velocities, we have the sphere of the elliptic orbits. Anything above the second cosmic velocity will be hyperbolic flights. The third cosmic velocity is the escape velocity from the solar system itself.
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SSridhar wrote: At the perigee, there are three 'cosmic velocities'. These velocities are accurately known for planets and the moon. The first cosmic velocity defines a circular orbit (anything less than that will be a ballistic flight falling back to Earth). The second cosmic velocity is the escape velocity from the planet which defines the parabolic flight. In between these two cosmic velocities, we have the sphere of the elliptic orbits. Anything above the second cosmic velocity will be hyperbolic flights. The third cosmic velocity is the escape velocity from the solar system itself.
Thanks! So this last earth orbit of CY, is it a hyperbolic flight orbit? I was under the impression that it was a Hohman transfer orbit which was supposed to be 'intercepted" by the moon at an appropriate juncture, helped by CY's burns.
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sumishi, no, it is not a hyperboic flight, not even a parabolic one. It is It is still an earthbound elliptic flight which is captured by the moon at a particular point within the flight. It has been shown, that when the spacecraft is thus captured by the moon, it always will have an escape velocity for the moon and if not corrected, it will escape at the same velocity from the other side of the moon. That is the manouevere that the lunar LAM firing achieves.
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SSridhar wrote:sumishi, no, it is not a hyperboic flight, not even a parabolic one. It is It is still an earthbound elliptic flight which is captured by the moon at a particular point within the flight. It has been shown, that when the spacecraft is thus captured by the moon, it always will have an escape velocity for the moon and if not corrected, it will escape at the same velocity from the other side of the moon. That is the manouevere that the lunar LAM firing achieves.
Good to read a terse reply Sridhar. :D
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I was wondering why the satellite tracking website http://www.n2yo.com has dropped Chandrayaan-1. I was looking at the site to see if it has updated the elevation of the oribter to 380,00km orbit. it was showing only up to 260,000km. then it has suddenly gone off their radar. what's cooking? or have they dropped it because the orbiter has moved on to lunar transfer orbit?

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less then 24 hours for rendezvous with moon :) still no picture released of moon :((
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frequentflyer wrote:I was wondering why the satellite tracking website http://www.n2yo.com has dropped Chandrayaan-1. I was looking at the site to see if it has updated the elevation of the oribter to 380,00km orbit. it was showing only up to 260,000km. then it has suddenly gone off their radar. what's cooking? or have they dropped it because the orbiter has moved on to lunar transfer orbit?
U have answered yourself.

y2no is basically for those who want to 'see' the Earth Satellites with naked eye or with small binoculars ( as a moving bright spot in night sky ).

Since the display was originally designed for ISS zarya ( and stretched to other missions as a by product ) it shows only those objects which are in Earth's orbit.
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Crucial Chandrayaan manoeuvre today
However, this earth-bound orbit is actually at about an inclination of 18 degrees to the earth’s Equator. Since the final designated lunar orbit is a circumpolar one, this orbit has also to turn around by almost 90 degrees.

As the satellite cruises along its present trajectory, the moon’s gravity will begin to dominate when this orbit will be about 60,000 km from the moon, which is expected to happen around midnight on Friday. Under the gravitational pull, the satellite will also begin to gain velocity. The orbit plane will also begin to gradually tilt away from its present near-equatorial one.

To enable the satellite to be completely captured by the moon, and thereby make the earth’s gravity irrelevant, the satellite would have to be slowed down. And this important operation will be performed when it is about 500 km from the moon, above the lunar north-pole. This is expected to occur around 1730 hrs on Saturday. At this point, the satellite’s orientation will actually be earth-facing. Also, significantly, the orbit will no longer be a closed elliptic one; it becomes an open hyperbolic one. So, if velocity reduction is not achieved at the designated time, the satellite will escape from moon’s gravity and be irretrievably lost in space. Thus, this operation is extremely crucial.

To enable Chandrayaan-1 to be captured by the moon, its orientation will be turned around by 180 degrees with the help of on-board reaction wheels. After this , retro-rockets will be fired for about 800 seconds.

The firing will give momentum to the satellite in the direction opposite to its orbit direction and slow it down. This will bring down its velocity from about 2 km/s to about 1.5 km/s.

It will then be under the total influence of the moon and its trajectory under its gravitational pull at this point will be such that the slowly tilting orbit would have actually swung by nearly 90 degrees southwards to become a circumpolar one. In this Lunar Orbit of Injection, the satellite’s closest point from the moon (perilune) is 500 km and the farthest point (apolune) is about 7,500 km. The period of revolution around the moon will be about 10 hours.

The preparation for the manoeuvre is expected to begin around noon on Saturday when satellite health checks will be performed. A little before the satellite approaches the lunar north-pole, its orientation will be turned around to ensure that its new orientation is exactly opposite to its velocity vector. The firing of the retro-rockets is expected between 1730 hrs and 1800 hrs. Within an hour, one will know if the manoeuvre has been successful.

Once completed, the orientation will be maintained such that the solar panel continuously faces the sun to generate maximum power. It will be similarly turned around every time a velocity reduction operation is to be performed. Four more velocity reduction operations are required to be carried out, twice at perilune and twice at apolune, to bring it into final pole-to-pole circular orbit of 100 km radius. The satellite will attain its final orbit on November 15.
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This manoeuver is risky:
Experts recall that about 30% of unmanned moon missions of US and the former Soviet Union failed during an LOI.{Lunar Orbit Insertion}
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Arun_S, thanks for the responses. It is interesting that modern satellites use the same reference (stars) as ancient sailors did.

A related question: How do the CY scientists know the position of a satellite in deep space. I assume that during the earth orbits, the position is a simple function of the orbit, i.e. the engineers could use the speed, time and altitude (at perigee) to calculate the position at any time in the orbit. Is there an independent way to verify position, say, by triangulating a signal from the satellite sent to the various tracking stations? Does the same approach work when CY is being injected into a lunar orbit? As it gets closer to the moon, I think it would get really tricky (and perhaps less useful) to determine its position relative to earth, and perhaps moon is a better reference point at that stage?
SSridhar wrote:To enable Chandrayaan-1 to be captured by the moon, its orientation will be turned around by 180 degrees with the help of on-board reaction wheels. After this , retro-rockets will be fired for about 800 seconds.
So there are rockets other than the LAM? Why not use the LAM after turning it around?
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SriKumar wrote:
SSridhar wrote:To enable Chandrayaan-1 to be captured by the moon, its orientation will be turned around by 180 degrees with the help of on-board reaction wheels. After this , retro-rockets will be fired for about 800 seconds.
So there are rockets other than the LAM? Why not use the LAM after turning it around?
Yes, it is the same LAM that will be fired to reduce the hyperbolic excess velocity to first make the orbit elliptic and then circularize it. It is called retro firing since it is now used to decelerate the spacecraft.
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Thanks. Additional rockets would have implied redundancy which would have been a little confusing, but otherwise the article is clear and well-written.
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A related question: How do the CY scientists know the position of a satellite in deep space.
It is same anywhere in space.

There are several bright stars , the catalogue of which is available onboard, are observed. It is done by observing the stars as they pass in front of Star Sensor ( I mean S/C is not oriented to the stars but the expected stars are observed for their accurate positions as seen by S/C ).

With a apriori knowledge one can know where is the S/C and its orientation after a few observations.
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