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PostPosted: 31 Mar 2011 13:48 
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^^^The official numbers, with tables etc here..
http://www.censusindia.gov.in/2011-prov ... t_2011.pdf

A lot more data-cuts here..

Key points:

1. Population growth is ~1.7%, dipping marginally..
2. Literacy rates are up to 74%, from 65% in 2001.
3. Sex ratio has improved (to 940, from 933), but sex ration in the "0-6" category has declined.

More data should be coming out in the next few weeks..The religion and caste numbers should give rise toa round of fun and games :wink:


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PostPosted: 31 Mar 2011 17:45 
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viewtopic.php?p=1056804#p1056804 dated 28 march 2011 7.53 am somnath
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Quite to the contrary, most of the wealth was carved up between various brothers of the clan, with disputes over them spilling over well in to the 21st century.
This was never the intended idea behind the article but somnath picked it up when it was unwarranted.He does have the liberty to do what he pleases. In the same vein I have the liberty to point it out as it is an open forum.
america's 100 large family firms
Family owned busines in america

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The greatest part of America’s wealth lies with family-owned businesses. Family firms comprise 80% to 90% of all business enterprises in North America.
Family-Owned Businesses contribute 64% of the GDP and employ 62% of the U.S. workforce.
More than 30% of all Family-Owned Businesses survive into the second generation. Twelve percent will still be viable into the third generation, with 3% of all family businesses operating at the fourth-generation level and beyond. family wranglings is one of the factors among many in this decline. compare this to Indian scene which is similar
34% of family firms expect the next CEO to be a woman.
Return On Assets is 6.65% greater than the same return for non-family firms.
Family firm performance is 5.5% greater when founding families maintain an ownership stake.


same as in India. again I suspect a world wide trait. It only shows humans behave similarly world wide.
some of them are well known world wide similar to tatas bajas and ambanis in India.
They all have had lot of internal wranglings in the family.
This is the trait common to all family business worldwide whether in europe asia or america. Hence no point in dissing Indian firms. Hope the point is made loud and clear. 8) TFWIW :wink:


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PostPosted: 31 Mar 2011 18:26 
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viewtopic.php?p=1056804#p1056804 dated 28 march 2011 9.53 am somnath
he quoted from the article when the the author mentioned that bill gates has opeartions in cayman islands and reno of nevada.
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This is a real clincher..I dont know whether Bill Gates has anything in Cayman, but Indian business worthies have not evaded taxes!!! the list of big tax evaders and "deliberate NPA creators" in India would be a roll call of honour of the business families...

one can search on google with terms bill gates tax evasion cayman islands reno of nevada etc which gives many links including the reputable ones 8) .
Many brfites know that US gov has come down particularly hard on US firms operating outside US to evade taxes including bill gates also. Obama has been trying to get these worthies to pay taxes, avoid evasions etc. bill gates has something in cayman islands ireland and many other places. bliss to check them below. it is simple search on google.

microsoft and tax evasion

bill gates and cayman islands
bill gates and reno of nevada tax evasion


All I can say is the R Vaidya the author of the article is correct in mentioning that bill gates has operations in cayman islands and reno nevada etc to minimise or evade taxes. :wink:


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PostPosted: 31 Mar 2011 18:50 
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I cannot believe that literacy rate has only increased by 9% points this decade from 65% to 74%, especially because it had such a heartening growth in the 1990s from 52% in 1991 to 65% in 2001. I expected it to be in the 77-80% range this census.


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PostPosted: 31 Mar 2011 19:33 
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UPA not serious on black money issue: BJP
http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/n ... 28445.html


Black money case: Govt refuses to reveal names
http://www.business-standard.com/india/ ... es/430156/

SC Flays Govt for Not Probing Sources of Black Money
http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?716664

Centre against SIT on black money
http://www.zeenews.com/news696323.html

Cong leader helped Hasan Ali park money in Singapore
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story ... apore.html

Sule asked I-T to call off black money probe
http://www.mid-day.com/news/2011/mar/17 ... mumbai.htm


Supreme court should say that the present government under Manmohan singh has lost legal rights to continue as they protect those who are having black money (an thereby allow them to steal India's tax money) and give such black money against Indian interests.


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PostPosted: 31 Mar 2011 19:36 
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VenkataS wrote:
I cannot believe that literacy rate has only increased by 9% points this decade from 65% to 74%, especially because it had such a heartening growth in the 1990s from 52% in 1991 to 65% in 2001. I expected it to be in the 77-80% range this census.

VenkataS,

What the figure 74% means : more than 90% of the children becoming literate.
The lagging behind are the adults.

From now on, even 5-10% increase is pretty good.


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PostPosted: 01 Apr 2011 04:33 
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ravi_ku,

Ideally close to 100% of the children should be becoming literate and we should be educating the illiterate adults as well.

I wish they had published the number of years of schooling per each person as well. They will be probably doing it in the final census results.

If you look at the 2011 literacy map there are vast swathes of the country which still have less than 70% literacy rate and a number of places where the female literacy rate is less than 60% which is a travesty.

Another disturbing trend is the decrease in the sex ratio in the 0-6 age group from 927 in 2001 to 914 now. It is at its lowest level now, and has been on a downward trajectory from 1961 onwards.


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Buffett's Bet on India


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PostPosted: 01 Apr 2011 07:46 
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VenkataS wrote:
Ideally close to 100% of the children should be becoming literate and we should be educating the illiterate adults as well.

I wish they had published the number of years of schooling per each person as well. They will be probably doing it in the final census results.

VenkataS-ji, its not just the adults, there are still gaps in child education as well...There is data that is published on enrollmnet ratios and importantly, drop-outs..Here are the latest numbers..

http://education.nic.in/AR/AR2009-10/AR2009-10.pdf
(go to page 330)..

As you can see, enrollment ratios are still less than 100%, espeically in the higher clases..Dropout rates are very high too, including in the primary classes as well...So there is progress, but in a large country, it is excruciatingly slow...

There are econometric models to extrapolate literacy levels every year - UNDP uses some for its annual HDI calculations...Interestingly, the numbers from the census arent far off from UNDP's estimates (74% v/s estimate of ~69-70%)...

Unfortunately the country has not had a half-decent HRD minister for 20 years now - Arjun Singh, followed by MM Joshi, followed by Arjun Singh again...Kapil Sibal is a good guy, but too busy being a general purpose hatchet man...If I were MMS, I would give it to Jairam Ramesh....Education at all levels, literacy to higher education, needs fresh ideas...


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PostPosted: 01 Apr 2011 11:17 
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ravi_ku wrote:
What the figure 74% means : more than 90% of the children becoming literate.


Yes,

This is a base effect. As a proportion of the population the student cohort is decreasing. This is our demographic dividend. Anything 80%+ is excellent labor base. Improvements beyond that will be incremental.

What we should note is Bihar went from 47% to 64%, UP from 56% to 70% :eek:.

AP went from 60% to 68%. Yo golti's :) . UP just passed you by. Whats with that. Your female literacy sucks too. If AP had put up a decent number we would be in the 76% range at least.


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What we should note is Bihar went from 47% to 64%, UP from 56% to 70%


Hallelujah! More power to the heartland. Lead kindly from darkness to light! Way to go.

The regime change has worked miracles in Bihar. Another 2 terms for Nitish and positive changes in UP (I hope Mayawati gets the Nitish Kumar example) and the two giant laggards in India will become Tigers , given the low base, ample land, water human and other resources, including of course the votes in the Lok Sabha!


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PostPosted: 01 Apr 2011 13:13 
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^^^The issue is with dropout rates...As the axiom goes - you can take the horse to water.....

The other good development is of course on female literacy...The number of "incremental" literate population - women outnumber men in that list...So at the margin, more girls are going to schools - which has a domino effect on the families...


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PostPosted: 01 Apr 2011 13:43 
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You can see some of the changes brought about by high population growth.

When I was in school long long long ago, Kerala was the state with the highest pop density! And now we have WB, Bengal and UP having HIGHER (or nearly similar in UP) pop densities as Kerala!

And notice that Bihar and WB's pop densities are TWICE that of Tamil Nadu (okay, Bihar had Jharkand carved out of it.. but all the same). :shock:

And also notice, that Guj and Rajasthan, even with a much lower base added significantly more in absolute terms than TN and if the trends continue will have a HIGHER pop than TN! Who would have thunk that some 35/30 years ago?

Wonder how an arid /semi arid state like Rajasthan can support such a population load!

WB is going to go the way of Bangladesh (What with 3000+ pop density) if they don't pull their pants up and get the economy going again. Between the Commies and Didi, it seems like a lost cause.


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^^Part of the reason is urbanisation...And population transfer to urban aglomerations and suburbs..So Noida, Greater NOIDA and beyond attract a lot of people, pusing up the population density of UP (plus UP lost Uttarakhand)...States like TN have always been quite urbanised, hence the "delta" is lesser...But as the larger north Indian states urbanise, they will attract a lot many more people from the north and the east...

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WB is going to go the way of Bangladesh (What with 3000+ pop density) if they don't pull their pants up and get the economy going again. Between the Commies and Didi, it seems like a lost cause

+infinity.... :(


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February exports up 49.7% y-o-y.

India’s exports in February rose an annual 49.7% to $23.6 billion, while imports for the month rose 21.2% on the year to $31.7 billion, government data released on Friday showed.

India’s trade deficit in February remained steady at $8.1 billion compared with $8 billion in January.

Exports in April-February rose an annual 31.4% to $208.2 billion. Oil imports for February fell an annual 0.3% to $8.2 billion.


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