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Now thats a great picture..


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Amazing :eek:


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JaiS: That is one beautiful damn picture that you have posted above. Wow!

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How about some more "boring" photos. ;)

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Wg Cdr Bharti again along with another very familiar pilot. For all of you who have the Su-30MKI Line of Duty program, you can see him towards the end of the second episode. From 17:56 to 18:01 and sitting to the right of the pilot who is speaking. He appears again at 18:34 and 19:08


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Su-30 prove their mettle in India-UK wargame


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C/N for SB 042 has been reported as 10MK2308 here, thanks to zoot horn rollo.

P.S. : Thanks Rakman !


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Some spotter updates.

Posted by: "Darren White" DWhite-@-Geo-Logistics(.)com

Sun Jul 15, 2007

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Good Morning All, Info given that K-2878 IL76 c/s ASTRA is planned to
depart Waddo at 0900am Mon. On that basis would assume the rest will
follow fairly shortly after that.

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Hi Darren, All,

I believe from previous postings that the rest, as you put it, are going on
Tuesday morning, not tomorrow. The IL76 is going home alone!

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Subject: [Airfields] LOG: RIAT 2007, RAF Fairford 15th July

Static :

> SB041 Su-30MKI 30 Sqn Indian Air Force
> SB042 Su-30MKI 30 Sqn Indian Air Force
> RK-3452 Il-78MKI 78 Sqn Indian Air Force

Flying only :

> SB044 Su-30MKI 30 Sqn Indian Air Force

> Regards,
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Asked one of the Indian aircrew what he thought of English airshows,his answer was,we go home Tuesday!
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Some spotter updates.

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Subject: [Airfields] LOG: RIAT 2007, RAF Fairford 15th July

Flying only :

> SB044 Su-30MKI 30 Sqn Indian Air Force


> Regards,
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Have any pictures or video of this surfaced?


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The Kill -score of Su30MKI and Typhoons is not being disclosed. What is the reason? Was the performance of both aircrafts below expectations? Can someone put light on the issue?


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ksmahesh wrote:
The Kill -score of Su30MKI and Typhoons is not being disclosed. What is the reason?


Because it never is?

Really, it's extremely unusual for any official numbers of nominal "kills"to be released, especially for international exercises (which this was), though unofficial numbers are often leaked.


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http://livefist.blogspot.com/2007/07/ph ... l-air.html

There is a cool picture of an IAF Hawk on the page.


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X-posting from AFM forum website, originally posted by user TEEJ. Note that BR has been mentioned on the official RAF website.

Images from the following link.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/index.cfm?storyid=BE8B53D9-1143-EC82-2E1D1D967FFBDE9F

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ldev wrote:

Have any pictures or video of this surfaced?


ldev, following 2 photos should be of SB-044

Credits : rjlaker

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Airshows.be link

Departure from RAF Fairford / RIAT 2007 / 16th July 2007

Su-30 MKI - serial unknown Credits to : danohagan

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Departure from RAF Fairford / RIAT 2007 / 16th July 2007

Su-30 MKI SB-041 Credits to : Mark_K

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ldev, following 2 photos should be of SB-044


Thanks a lot. Its quite amazing that the enthusiasts have managed to record virtually every movement of the IAF aircraft in the UK. True dedication to the hobby!!.


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ldev, you are welcome.

Static display at RIAT 2007

Image Credits : model_madness

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Added Later #1

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Nice pic ! - Flanker and Midas

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Flanker (SB-042) and Midas - Different Angle

Added Later #3

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IL-78 MKI #1

IL-78 MKI #2


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A few more official pics


http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Image ... ?g2_page=2

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Image ... ?g2_page=3


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Dont know whether this is posted. If so admin please delete it.

http://www.gujaratglobal.com/nextSub.ph ... ce%20Scope


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Yes,UK enthusiasts go all the way.I know one desi worthy who is a fanatic with flying models and apart from various aircraft has built his own helicopter too! In fact I've told him,with his knowledge and capability,he should to start designing UAVs.Perhaps we may see him at the next air show.


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Philip wrote:
Yes,UK enthusiasts go all the way.I know one desi worthy who is a fanatic with flying models and apart from various aircraft has built his own helicopter too! In fact I've told him,with his knowledge and capability,he should to start designing UAVs.Perhaps we may see him at the next air show.

has anyone checked this out?

Typhoon vs. SU-30MKI: The 2007 Indra Dhanush Exercise
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/typ ... ise-03470/


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Philip, have a problem with opening that link.
Can you pls post the article.

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Yes,UK enthusiasts go all the way.I know one desi worthy who is a fanatic with flying models and apart from various aircraft has built his own helicopter too! In fact I've told him,with his knowledge and capability,he should to start designing UAVs.Perhaps we may see him at the next air show.


Does the man happen to live in a place with a large inscription reading 'Construction for Destruction' ?


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More pics are in Airliners.NET as well ... This is a majestic aircraft!

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1235119/L/


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Shafqat, thanks for posting A.net link !

IAF Sukhois win 'Spirit of the Meet' trophy in UK

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NEW DELHI: The Sukhoi-30 MKIs of the Indian Air Force on Monday won the "Spirit of the Meet" trophy at the prestigious Royal International Air Tattoo held at Royal Air Force base Fairford in the United Kingdom.

The trophy sponsored by British Aerospace was received by Wing Commander A K Bharti, Commanding officer of the IAF's 3Oth Squadron 'Rhino', and came close on the heels of the Sukhoi bagging the best static display award at Waddington Air show nearby last week.

At the show in which 320 aircraft from 24 countries took part, a single IAF Sukhoi flown by Wing Commander H Assudani and Squadron Leader S K Sharma undertook a dazzling air display.

Significantly, the air show also saw the appearance of an IAF Hawk advanced jet trainer making a silent static display. The aircraft painted in IAF colours is part of contingent undergoing final tests before their delivery to India in September.



Impressive show of IAF at world’s biggest military air show

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With 320 aircraft from 24 countries representing 34 international air arms, and with nearly 2,600 aircrew and ground crew put together converging at the venue with an estimated 17500 visitors, the scenario can hardly be fathomed any bigger. Rightly it is acclaimed the biggest military air show in the world.

The Indian Air Force (IAF), currently celebrating its 75th anniversary, displayed an IL-78 MKI and two Sukhoi-30 MKI fighters at the 'static display'. A single Su-30 MKI flown by Wing Commander H Assudani and Squadron Leader SK Sharma briefly, kept the shutterbugs asking for more. In more ways than one, the continued presence of the IAF at two major military air shows in a row in Europe couldn't have been timed any better, as the IAF is at the threshold of reaching yet another historic milestone this year on October 8.

The outstanding aircraft of the modern era also stood out with their features such as the F-117A Nighthawk Stealth Fighter of the USAF, Eurofighter Typhoons, F-16 Fighting Falcons, F-15E Strike Eagles, F/A-18C Hornets, F-86A Sabre fighters, B1B Lancaster Bomber, Hawks, F3 Tornadoes, Nimrod MRA4, Gulfstream G550, USAF C-130 Hercules and India's formidable Su-30 MKIs and a towering IL-78 MKI to name a few. For the rotary wing followers there were the Lynx, Gazelles, Mi-24V Hind, Eurocopter Dauphins, Robinson R44 and Chinook among others.

The contributor is Wing Commander T K Singha, Defence PRO based at Ahmedabad. At present he is attached with the joint exercise of IAF and RAF at Waddington, UK



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now you don't suppose that BAe sponsored award was handed over together with a nice glossy brochure on the Typhoon and a little booklet on how to open swiss bank accounts so that *ahem* funds transfers for project expenses can be made?!?!?!

i.e. there is a hardsell on with Typhoon for the IAF


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Lalmohan'ji,

What you say is indeed interesting, but could you please take that tangent to some other ( Indian Mil Aviation or Nukkad ) thread ?


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFGStcUhpg8

Not the best quality.


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ldev, this must definitely be the SB-044 [:D], and it was at RIAT 2007. From what I have read at a different forum, SB-044 spent a really short time over RAF Fairford. The previous photos did not provide 'direct' proof of the SB-044.

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One more image of SB-044, thanks to Tony Lowther.


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Now how are the pilots going to extend their stay to watch the first test match at Lord's? :wink:


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Typhoon vs. SU-30MKI: The 2007 Indra Dhanush Exercise
17-Jul-2007 10:14 | Permanent Link
Related stories: Events, Fighters & Attack, Asia - India, Britain/U.K., Power Projection, Interoperability, Transformation, Field Reports, Projections & Assessments

SU-30MKI, Typhoon, F3
(click to view full)DID usually restricts its coverage to procurements, but issues of doctrine and lessons and innovations from the field also qualify. Drawing conclusions from exercises is always tricky, and can never replace combat experience. Even so, in the absence of state-on-state conflicts, the expansion of multi-national training (where "gaming" is less likely) occasionally offers an interesting window into platform capabilities and national trends. With a number of air forces around the world contemplating their future fighter options, and India emphasizing the value of force multiplier/ force projection platforms in its air force, the matchups at Exercise Indra Dhanush 2007 at Waddington, UK are worth our time.

While SU-30Ks have faced USAF F-15Cs and F-16s at COPE India 2004 and COPE India 2005, Indra Dhanush 2007 featured more advanced combatants on both sides. On one side is Britain's Eurofighter Typhoon, whose advanced aerodynamics and intuitive controls and avionics have led to studies like the UK DERA rating it as the second-best air superiority aircraft in the world. Its supporting cast includes 1980s era Tornado F3 air defense variants, and upgraded GR9 Harriers from the Royal Navy. On the other side is India's SU-30MKI, the most evolved variant of Sukhoi's outstanding Flanker family, with aerodynamics that allow unique maneuvers, and full thrust vectoring besides.

The lesson and key comments include…

F3, Eurofighter, SU-30MKI
(click to view full)India's Ministry of Defense, had this to say about the initial RAF-IAF clashes, and adds some words of wisdom:

"The operational part of the 'Exercise Indradhanush-2007' began with a series of 1 vs 1 air combat sorties… The RAF pilots were candid in their admission of the Su-30 MKI's observed superior manouevring in the air, just as they had studied, prepared and anticipated. [emphasis DID's] The IAF pilots on their part were also visibly impressed by the Typhoon's agility in the air.

While it does not imply to say that the 1 vs 1 air combat sorties were meant for backslapping each other, it may be understood that in today's aerial combat scenarios of 'beyond visual range' (BVR) capabilities of air platforms, it is highly unlikely that any of the modern-day fighters will ever get into a situation that warrants extreme close air combat, as in the situation simulated in the 1 vs 1 sorties. With a 'kill' criterion of front-gun ranges being mostly under 1000 metres and a visual tracking envelope behind the target for only up to a 60-degree cone mostly for most fighter aircraft of the world, the unlikely scenario gets more exemplified.

But the irony also lies in the fact that while there is a number of counter and counter-counter measures to make the modern missiles with claims of inescapable parameters redundant by using 'chaff' and other active/passive measures, a 'gun kill' is invariably a most certain kill. The pilots invariably begin honing their tracking and combat skills under such close combat situations."

This is true. Even in the modern missile age, most air-to-air kills have remained within visual range. As such, performance within the parameters of this initial matchup still matters.

At short missile ranges, both aircraft are equipped with canards for fast "slew and point" maneuvers, infared search & track systems, helmet-mounted sights, and ultra-maneuverable short-range infared missiles (ASRAAM, AA-11/R-73) with wide boresight seeker cones. This creates more forgiving parameters for a kill than the front gun range requirements; the SU-30MKI's superior maneuverability would have to contend with UK Typhoon flight profiles enabled by ASRAAM's longer range and lock-on after launch capability.

In longer-range combat situations, however, issues of detection and reach would also come into play. The Eurofighter is smaller, and is generally agreed to have more "shaping" than the SU-30 to reduce its radar profile (though neither aircraft is in the same class as the F-22A Raptor or even the less-stealthy F-35 Lightning II); and its Meteor ramjet BVRAAM missile is explicitly designed to kill from longer range than the Russian AA-12/R-77. Speed can compensate to some degree by reducing detection time and extending missile range, especially in "HVA busting" missions against tankers, AWACS aircraft, et. al. Unlike the American F-22A, however, the Typhoon's supercruise capability for sustained speed above Mach 1 apparently relies on the aircraft being "clean" (no external stores), while the SU-30 currently lacks that capability until and unless plans for an uprated engine come to fruition.

Exercise Indra Dhanush 2007 came to an end on July 12/07, reaching its crescendo with a 6 vs. 6 aerial combat involving 4 Indian Su-30 MKIs, 4 British F3 Tornado air defence variants, 2 British Typhoons, and 2 of the Royal Navy's GR9 Harriers. An Indian IL-78 MKI aerial tanker and a British E-3D Sentry AWACS aircraft were also in the air. No details were released regarding the results, but we're sure they made for very interesting debriefs.


IL-78MK & SU-30MKIs
(click to expand)Meanwhile, amidst the excitement of the aerial battles, the successful deployment of India's aircraft using IAF aerial refueling and logistics personnel might go unnoticed. From India's point of view, however, these developments may be even more important than the results of the fighter match-ups in the air. An MoD release notes that:

"When the Indian Air Force (IAF) Jaguars flew to Alaska during their first overseas joint air exercise "Cope Thunder" in July '04, the newly inducted Ilyushin-78 MKI 'air-to-air' refuellers of the IAF heralded their acquired strategic reach capability. This year, the six Su-30 MKIs that flew from Pune airbase in India to Royal Air Force (RAF) airbase at Waddington (UK), were also accompanied by two IL-78 MKIs of the 'Valorous MARS' (No. 78 Mid-Air-Refuelling Squadron) from Agra through their long ferry route. Despite the din and the excitement of the first-ever arrival of the formidable Su-30 MKIs at UK, the significant aspect of IAF's continued enhanced strategic reach capability, did not however go unnoticed.

"The IL-78 MKIs [DID: a variant of Russia's IL-76 heavy transport aircraft] have been employed in five overseas assignment so far. These include Alaska, South Africa, France, Singapore and now UK," informed Group Captain K Raghavendra, Commanding Officer of the MARS. "We would have loved the experience of tanking RAF fighters during the exercise that would have made inter-operability possible. We look forward to such an experience in the future," he added on RAF Tornadoes not having tanked with them during the exercise.

The six IAF Su-30 MKI fighters will have flown nearly 19,000 kms each, tanked eight times and transferred nearly 225 tonnes of fuel mid-air in all, spread over 28 flying hours with stopovers enroute at Doha (Qatar) and Tanagra (Greece), both ways."

Once India receives its IL-76 derivative Russian-Israeli Phalcon AWACS aircraft, its ability to project power abroad will grow significantly; and the INS Vikramaditya carrier project will provide a further boost. Exercises like Indra Dhanush 2007 are valuable for the insights they provide – but they are also valuable for the trends they presage. The logistics and interoperability lessons learned by the IAF during this exercise are and indicator of, and a contributor to, some trends worth watching.

Additional Readings & Sources

India's MoD (July 7/07) – RAF Eurofighter Typhoons and IAF SU-30 MKIis match-up to their potentials in their first-ever aerial combat
India's MoD (July 12/07) – Valorous Mars-Enhancing IAF's strategic presence. Discusses the IAF's IL-78 aerial tankers.
India's MoD (July 12/07) – 'Indradhanush 2007' – An IAF exercise of mammoth Proportions in Operational, Logistical, Maintenance and Administrative planning. Discusses some of the logistics angles, which are new to the IAF as it has not traditionally done very many out-of-country exercises.
UK MoD (July 12/07) – Exercise Indra Dhanush wraps up at Waddington
India's MoD (July 13/07) – Indradhanush-2007 Draws To A Close At UK
DID (Feb 23/06) – India's Air Force Looks to Enhance Its Reach With Upgrades & Force Multipliers


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Here is an excellent feature on the Flanker family,comparisons with other contemp. aircraft like the JSF,tactics,eqpt.weaponry,etc. on this site .Great for lengthy analysis and discussion.

"The shifting balance of regional power".
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Flanker.html

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What happens when the existing OLS-27/30/31 series IRST is replaced with a newer longwave Focal Plane Array device - such as a single chip QWIP device? The result will be a capability to engage opposing aircraft under clear sky conditions regardless of RCS reduction measures. While the supercruising F/A-22A can defeat such techniques by kinematics alone, fighters in the teen series performance envelope will have to contend with BVR shots using the R-27ET, R-77, R-77T and R-77M cued by the thermal imaging search and track set. Similar issues arise with the deployment of modern ESM receivers on the Su-30MK, analogous to a number of existing Western systems. The Su-30MK series can then launch long range BVR missiles such as the R-27ET, R-77T with infrared seekers, or the R-27EP and R-77P with passive radio-frequency anti-radiation seekers. If cued by such sensors or offboard sources, these weapons will permit the Su-30MK to engage the JSF despite the JSF's good forward sector radar stealth performance (Author).

Soviet and more recent Russian BVR doctrine has always emphasised firing pairs of missiles, one with heat-seeking guidance and one with radar guidance, to defeat countermeasures. With the option of active radar, heat-seeking and anti-radiation seekers, and by the end of the decade an imaging seeker, the result is a very lethal cocktail from a defensive countemeasures perspective - a defending fighter may only have datalink transmissions to provide warning and no indication of the seeker mix on the inbound missiles. With three of the four seeker technologies passive defeating such weapons is not trivial.


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Among the last planes from Indian deployment to leave Waddo.

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Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:32 pm (PST)

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Morning

Might save someone a wasted journey
On my SBS box in sunny Essex are RK-3451 & RK-3452 - 07:25 17/07/07

Presumably they have the SU-30's with them!!

One IL-76 remains unseen by my sbs, so I think it's still on the deck!!
(The other IL-76 dep'd yesterday)

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Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:55 pm (PST)

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They have indeed gone - or some of them have. Around seven o'clock the
tranquility of Lincolnshire was blasted by their departure. Looking out of
the kitchen window it looked like they might have been doing a farewell
flypast.

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Something interesting, as I did not know about the SBS box, I did a google search and came up with this

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ACARS huh? I thought that was a civillian thing. Did not realise that IAF or any other AF used those... perhaps it also listens to NAV transponders?


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An Indian air force detachment of two Sukhoi Su-30MKI multirole fighters and a supporting Ilyushin Il-78 tanker were among the star attractions at this year’s Royal International Air Tattoo.

At Fairford following their participation in the first ever bilateral exercise involving the Indian air force in the UK, the aircraft were part of a major detachment which was based at the Royal Air Force’s Waddington airbase in Lincolnshire for almost two weeks from 2 July. This included a further four Su-30s sent to the UK to participate in exercise ‘Indra Dhanush’, where the aircraft flew as part of a joint air package with RAF Panavia Tornado F3 and Eurofighter Typhoon interceptors.



All of the Indian fighters participated in the manouevres, which usually included two sorties per aircraft each day, says Sqn Ldr S V Munje, a pilot from the air force’s 30 Sqn at Pune air station. The Indian aircraft flew with support from their own tanker, but made use of the RAF’s Boeing E-3D Airborne Warning and Control System aircraft as part of a composite package, he says.

In addition to the two Su-30s on the ground at RIAT, a third example conducted a brief flying display at the show on 14 July before returning to Waddington. The entire Indian detachment – which totals around 200 personnel – will leave the UK on 17 July at the start of a four-day return journey which will include stops in Greece and Qatar, says Munje.

Rated by the Indian air force as having been a major success, the Indra Dhanush exercise looks set to be one of the highlights of what is also the 75th year since the service’s creation.



Su-30MKIs star attraction at RIAT 2007


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C/N for SB 042 has been reported as 10MK2308 here, thanks to zoot horn rollo.

P.S. : Thanks Rakman !


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Purleez tell me what happened to the EFTvs MKI duels, particularly the BVR ones. I heard the French won 60-40 of the engagements in Garuda against the Su-30k. This EFT is the next gen from the M2K - RDY the AdlA flew. On the other hand, we were flying MKIs, not Ks. So please someone, let me know.


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Lalmohan wrote:
ACARS huh? I thought that was a civillian thing. Did not realise that IAF or any other AF used those... perhaps it also listens to NAV transponders?


No, SBS-1 doesn't pick up ACARS transmissions.

What it is is a synthetic Secondary Surveillance Radar (SSR) which picks up Mode-2/ADS-B transmisisons utilising the unique 24-bit hex address code of individual aircraft and displays it on a synthetic radar screen on your PC.

Mode-S employs airborne transponders that provide altitude and identification data, with ADS-B broadcasts and these are available to pilots and air traffic controllers.

The UK Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) has required IFR flights operating as General Air Traffic (GAT) within designated UK Mode S airspace (London TMA) to be Mode S equipped from 31 March 2005, with a 2-year transition period until 31 March 2007.

Although I don't have an SBS-1 box, I know that people nearby use them to identify military traffic in the surrounding area.

You can download shareware software which will allow you to access ACARS transmissions by using the soundcard on your PC to decode the ACARS signals. It's only really useful for maonitoring civil traffic and there are a number of dedicated ACARS frequencies you need to monitor so it is likely that you will miss something.


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SB-041 at RAF Fairford, 14th July 2007

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IL-78, RK 3452 at RAF Fairford, 14th July 2007

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Purleez tell me what happened to the EFTvs MKI duels, particularly the BVR ones. I heard the French won 60-40 of the engagements in Garuda against the Su-30k. This EFT is the next gen from the M2K - RDY the AdlA flew. On the other hand, we were flying MKIs, not Ks. So please someone, let me know.


where did you hear that about Ex Garuda ? I never heard of that figure before..any link or source you can provide ?


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