Indian Police Reform

sum · Post by **sum** » 27 Dec 2010 09:29

City police’s Petrocard system impresses MHA

Taking a cue from the Bangalore City Police, the Union Ministry of Home Affairs is all set to introduce the Petrocard System for their vehicles attached to different forces.

The Bangalore City Police introduced the Petrocard System from November 1, 2010 as part of economy measures to put an end to unnecessary waste of man power, energy, fuel and money.

Police drivers can use the card to fill fuel from any petrol pump of the Indian Oil company, unlike earlier when the drivers could get fuel from only three designated bunks.

“An audit team of MHA visited the City recently and held discussions with me regarding the system and collected technical details. We have given them a booklet which consists of details of the system including those of drivers and their vehicles,” Bangalore City Police Commissioner Shankar Bidari told Deccan Herald.

The team was impressed with the system, which, if introduced by the Union Government, could save huge sums of money for the Central Exchequer and put an end to unnecessary expenditure.

At present, vehicles of the Central forces like Indo-Tibetan Border police, Border Security Force and Central Reserve Police Force travel upto 50 km to fill fuel from designated bunks of a particular oil firm. Each vehicle would be travelling more than 100 km, including to and fro travelling, only for the sake of fuel.

“The City police introduced the system from November 1, 2010. At present drivers of 1,348 four wheeler and 664 two-wheelers are using the facility. The Department has saved upto Rs one crore this year. Encouraged by the results, we have decided to introduce the same for the vehicles attached to City Armed Reserve from January 1, 2011. A total of 178 four wheelers and 39 two-wheelers of CAR (North), (South) and Headquarters will be covered,” he added.

Good stuff...

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 06 Jan 2011 12:49

Mr Anjaneyulu on the Right.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 225881.cms

Vijayawada top cop P S R Anjaneyulu in dock for lewd calls, SMSes

TNN, Jan 6, 2011, 02.19am IST

VIJAYAWADA: The Andhra Pradesh DGP on Wednesday ordered a probe against the Vijayawada police commissioner and sent him on leave without posting, following allegations about the 1992 batch IPS officer harassing women and sending suggestive texts seeking sexual favours. The action came after a TV channel telecast the cop's purported conversations and SMSes.

In his 18-year career, P S R Anjaneyulu, a close confidant of DGP Aravinda Rao, has been embroiled in several controversies. This time around, he sent a slew of SMSes to a Vijayawada doctor, demanding sex. Initially, he sought the doctor's medical advice, but then started harassing her over phone and told her that he ''liked her''. This was followed by an SMS proposing ''a long term relationship''.

During one such conversation, the officer, a father of three, suggested, ''Next time you should wear a sky blue sari and let your hair loose. I like you that way.'' Most of his phone conversations and SMSes were between September and October last year. However, she spoke out after she couldn't put up with the harassment any more.

Anjaneyulu remained defiant. He said TDP leader Vallabhaneni Vamsi had set up the doctor to defame him. ''Yes, the SMSes were sent by me. I have given them knowing well that the woman was Vamsi's relative and she was acting at his behest,'' he said. He added he only wanted to check to "what extent" Vamsi would go.

Sources said the Vijayawada top cop had harassed several other women and girls, asking them for sexual favours, when they approached him with their problems. According to the police commissioner's call details, he called several women from his official number. "I am open in all issues. You too should be open in talking to me about any thing, including sex," one of his SMSs read. A lecturer in a Vijayawada college had to shift to Bangalore to flee his sexual advances, sources said.

A widow, too, was "trapped" by CP when she went to him with a complaint against her in-laws. A resident of Gannavaram in Krishna district, she was allegedly lured by the CP when she sought his help in getting her share in the property of her in-laws. Women's groups and rights activists have demanded Anjaneyulu's suspension and a probe into his activities. "Anjaneyulu is a law unto himself. He is an extortionist in police uniform. He is an armed goon and the biggest threat to civil society," said Jaya Vindyala, an activist of the People's Union of Civil Liberties.

Anjaneyulu remained defiant. He said TDP leader Vallabhaneni Vamsi had set up the doctor to defame him. ''Yes, the SMSes were sent by me. I have given them knowing well that the woman was Vamsi's relative and she was acting at his behest,'' he said. He added he only wanted to check to "what extent" Vamsi would go.

ROFLOLOL!!! Who does this guy think he is fooling?

Still, Mr. Anjaneyulu need not worry. His senior from the service, Mr SPS Rathore has developed a careful procedure for such matters.

Standard Molester Police Official Procedure:

1. Blame everything on a political 'conspiracy'. Claim just doing a thorough job of 'investigation'.
2. Harass the family until victim commits suicide.
3. Receive Police Medal for Meritorious Service.
4. Get promoted to DGP.
5. Retire to estate "earned" during service years.
6. If, by some ridiculous chance, someone rakes up the case later, dont worry. You wont get more than a couple of months jail time.

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 06 Jan 2011 14:01

http://www.hindu.com/2011/01/06/stories ... 570100.htm

Vijayawada Police Commissioner transferred

Special Correspondent

P.S.R. Anjaneyulu busy talking on two mobile phones in Vijayawada on Wednesday.—

HYDERABAD: The State government on Wednesday night transferred Vijayawada Police Commissioner P. Sita Ram Anjaneyulu with immediate effect and made Eluru range DIG G. Surya Prakash Rao the acting Police Commissioner of Vijayawada till another suitable officer is posted to fill the slot.

The shifting of Mr. Anjaneyulu was confirmed to The Hindu by DGP K. Aravinda Rao late on Wednesday night. Mr. Anjaneyulu has not been given any posting.

The government ordered an inquiry into charges of sexual harassment levelled against Mr. Anjaneyulu.

Taking a serious view of the allegations on Wednesday, Home Minister P. Sabitha Indra Reddy asked the DGP to institute an inquiry and submit a report.

An official of additional DGP rank would inquire into the charges against Mr. Anjaneyulu.

Staff Reporter from Vijayawada adds: Mr. Anjaneyulu said that the allegation that he harassed some women by sending text messages and making repeated calls to them was part of a “trap” laid by TDP urban president Vallabhaneni Vamsi Mohan to settle scores with him.

The Commissioner held a press conference following the telecast of a report by a Telugu news channel, which said that he sent “obscene” text messages and made several calls from his official mobile phone to some women in the city. He said he was aware of the “game” being played for the last four months by Mr. Vamsi Mohan with the help of his cousin, a lady physician in a city hospital. “But I willingly played along to actually trap Vamsi Mohan. He was nursing a grudge against me because I placed restrictions on the number of vehicles in his convoy and withdrew some of the gunmen given to him,” Mr. Anjaneyulu said.

Mr. Vamsi Mohan later told the channels that Mr. Anjaneyulu threatened him and took sides with Congress leader Devineni Rajasekhar (Nehru). Instead of levelling allegations that he used a lady to trap him, the Commissioner should do well to own up the mistake, he said.

Never once denying, and, in fact, admitting that he sent all those messages and made the calls as shown on the channel, Mr. Anjaneyulu asserted that he did not commit anything wrong and his conscience was clear on this.

“I have every right to make or maintain friendship with anyone and there is no need to be accountable on this to any person except my wife,” he said.

Asked how he could spend so much time on making calls and sending messages, Mr. Anjaneyulu maintained that what was important was how effectively he discharged his duties. He offered to provide more information on the details of phone calls and messages that he sent to a doctor, a junior college lecturer and daughter of an industrialist, to prove his innocence.

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 06 Jan 2011 14:22

The high court as well has not appreciated Mr Anjaneyulu's services in the past...

http://www.newsofap.com/newsofap-6200-2 ... sofap.html

AP High Court slams PSR Anjaneyulu, the Joint Commissioner for lying

The Andhra Pradesh High Court has come down heavily on the Joint Commissioner of Police PSR Anjaneyulu for submitting report on the recent 'police vs students' confrontation in Osmania University campus few days back. In the report PSR Anjaneyulu reported that the students were at fault since they were the one who threw stones on the police first which led to retaliatory laticharge on the students.

However the High Court noted that Anajaneyulu didn't reveal on why the police had to go into the campus in the first place. While the report claimed that the police didn't target any girls, the High Court noted that internal inquiries revealed that the girls were indeed attacked the police.

When the High Court asked the commissioner on the damage to the vehicles of the media persons, the commissioner had admitted that it was the police who did it. "Then why didn't you slap cases against the police who did it" retorted the High Court.

The High Court asked him to explain on why a CBI (Central Bureau of Investigation) inquiry should not be constituted on the entire incident (couple of days back the Supreme Court gave power to all High Courts the power to call for a CBI probe).

It also asked him to submit another report on the same by March 1st.

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 09 Jan 2011 13:37

Not sure what I think of this...

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Governmen ... 48028.aspx

Government likely to lift babus’ graft immunity shield
Nagendar Sharma, Hindustan Times

New Delhi, January 09, 2011

The government is likely to make it easier to prosecute corrupt public servants in its plan to tackle corruption. This is one of seven specific proposals to be considered by an eight-member group of ministers (GoM) headed by Pranab Mukherjee. The GoM give its advice on a proposal to amend article 311 of the Constitution, which is meant to protect government servants against arbitrary dismissal and punishment.

The view in the government is that this article, meant to act as a shield for honest employees, has now become a hindrance in the fight against corruption.

HT had first reported on Thursday about the setting up of the GoM.

“The GoM will consider all measures, including legislative and administrative, to tackle corruption and improve transparency,” a cabinet secretariat notification says. It will also consider whether the CBI needs government permission to investigate an officer of joint secretary-level and above.

Currently, except in cases where an official is caught red handed by the investigating agency, permission is required.

The GoM was set up in the backdrop of a four-point plan of action outlined by Congress chief Sonia Gandhi last month to tackle corruption “head-on”.

The government has been facing an Opposition onslaught over scams such as 2G spectrum allocation, Commonwealth Games and Adarsh Housing Society of Mumbai.

The GoM’s terms of reference have put at rest all speculation about a possible ordinance on an anti-corruption mechanism, since it has been given 60 days to submit its recommendations.

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 09 Jan 2011 14:40

ASPuar wrote:Not sure what I think of this...

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Governmen ... 48028.aspx

Government likely to lift babus’ graft immunity shield
Nagendar Sharma, Hindustan Times

So babus are going to be hanged for 2g. ofcourse the politicos are untouchable.

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 09 Jan 2011 14:57

Thats not exactly what I meant... the Babu (IAS/IPS) is untouchable in all cases, thanks to this provision. Politico can be hounded out of office, but the Babu can never be removed. So I suppose, this is right in a sense. But why now?

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 10 Jan 2011 10:19

Crime Tracking Network System to be launched in October

Trial run of CCTNS will take place in Uttar Pradesh, Kerala and Assam in March, he said.

More on CCTNS

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 10 Jan 2011 23:25

^^

A good idea, but unless intensive training is imparted, the eqpt is likely to have a coconut broken in front of it, and then left to rot for the next ten years, unused.

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 11 Jan 2011 00:54

That CCTNS is not a day too soon. I am not a big fan of a lot of Khan's hyper-intrusive and inhuman law enforcement machinery, but one thing we desperately need is a ViCAP style system, if we are to clamp down on everything from organized inter-state trafficking to transient serial killers. If a few dozen vital "signature features" of each crime can be fed from all over India, one can run pattern matches and BI style operations to figure out any recurring patterns down history. God forbid, we might throw up some horrendous stuff that was not caught earlier.

Currently the only thing that seemed to have a central database is for the explosive signature one under MHA..

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 11 Jan 2011 13:19

ASPuar,hnair,
The three states chosen for pilot phase was because the huge improvement in computerisation of the respective state police. K.P for example have every PS equipped with PCs and are connected by a single network. Last year itself there was a systematic plan for getting every PC trained in the usage of computers. The KP had drawn up a training calendar for every district and they had roped in external consultants to give trainings in batches.

The predecessor of CCTNS the CIPA seems to have died a silent death. A strong computer network for the police is quite neccessary of a huge country like India. One thing which I would look out for would also be the language used

. Most probably it would be English, but there are many police records which are still maintained in the respective local language.

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 11 Jan 2011 17:38

^^

Its the need of the hour. At this rate, soon we will also have license plates being checked up on, on dashboard mounted computers in police vehicles!

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 11 Jan 2011 20:03

ASPuar wrote:Its the need of the hour. At this rate, soon we will also have license plates being checked up on, on dashboard mounted computers in police vehicles!

Another trend I am observing in Kerala is the sheer number of arrests happening by tracking the culprit using cell phones

. The Cyber Crime Cell at the HQ are supposed to be the experts in that, but they are training other officers as well. Mobile phones being a pretty much common thing to have (like you wear a trouser or shirt), and for many criminals this device gave away silent information about their where abouts.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 Jan 2011 02:05

I sthere an increase of this type of crimes?

Family of five murdered in UP

Brutal murder: Five members of a family killed

January 20, 2011 2:33:11 AM

Pioneer News Service | Lucknow

Mystery shrouds over sensational killing of five members of family whoall were brutally hacked to death in Mahamayanagar (Hathras) sometime on Tuesday night. All the five were found lying in pool of blood on Wednesday morning. The local police which suspected that it was job of some insider as no forcible entry was found, registered a case of murder and held over a half a dozen persons on suspicion. They also suspected the hands of former wife of the head of the above family.

Interestingly the senior officers asked the sleuths of the Anti-Terror Squad (ATS) of the state to assist the local police to work out the case.

According to Special Director General (crime, law & order), Brij Lal, the local residents of Chawad hamlet of Sadabad locality of Mahamayanagar suspected some foulplay when they found none of the family members of 55-year-old Ramesh Jat coming out of their home on Wednesday morning. Finding the doors lying opened, some of the neighbours went inside the house to enquire the matter. They were shocked when they found Ramesh Jat along with his 50-year-old wife Mamta Devi, 18-year-old son Gopal, 19-year-old daughter Vineeta and 26-year-old maternal nephew Monu all lying in pool of blood. The belongings in the house were also found scattered on the floor.

Brij Lal claimed that circumstantial evidences suggested that someone known to the family visited the house and also stayed on Tuesday night as they found all the victim murdered where they slept but one bed was lying empty. He said that probably after everyone slept, the same visitor opened the main door to let his accomplices entered inside.

Later after executing the crime, the accused probably scattered the belongings to make it a case of loot and murder so that the cops engaged in the probe were misguided. He said that besides other disputes they were also looking Ramesh Jat's dispute with his first wife whom he left few years back. Further investigation is on in the matter.

Meanwhile a 9-year-old girl was also found in critical state after she was raped by one of the helper in her father's dhaba in Jhansi.The victim was now battling for life at Jhansi Medical College while the accused was arrested. Reports said that someone informed Prahlad Singh Yadav, a native of Nimoni hamlet of Uldan in Jhansi that his daughter Rekha (name changed), was lying in critical condition at Ratausa turning. Prahlad immediately rushed and took Rekha to Mauranipur hospital from where the doctors claimed that she was having injuries on her private parts as she raped and referred her for Medical College in Jhansi. The investigation later showed that Rekha was raped by Jagdish, who was a employee at a dhaba owned by her father. A case was subsequently registered and the accused was also arrested and send to jail.

Vasu · Post by **Vasu** » 25 Jan 2011 18:07

Posting here though the news goes beyond police reforms. It seems more and more Indians across the country are taking the rule of law for granted, with such incidents becoming more frequent. In Delhi, every other week, some innocent victim is killed because of road rage or a shopkeeper not having a particular cigarette or brand of alcohol.

The Additional District Collector was definitely a very young person, and only a few years as an IAS Officer. This is usually the first posting given to IAS officers. They probably will have some local neta scum protecting them, and soon it'll be forgotten.

Oil mafia burns alive additional collector

An additional district collector was on Tuesday burnt alive allegedly by petrol and diesel mafia at Manmad in Maharashtra's Nashik district, police said.

Additional District Collector Yashwant Sonawane was accompanied by his personal assistant and driver when the shocking incident took place at a roadside Dhaba near Manmad town, about 260 km from here.

"Preliminary reports say Sonawane had gone there to conduct a raid on petrol and diesel mafia. There some people, believed to be associated with the mafia, who set him on fire causing his death," Additional Director General (Law & Order) K P Rahuvanshi said.

Another report said Sonawane had stopped at a roadside hotel on way to a certain place to oversee security arrangements for an event when he found people adulterating fuel.

Sonawane objected to it, leading to a scuffle during which he was set ablaze resulting in his death.

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 26 Jan 2011 00:03

^^

As a matter of fact, he was a state services officer, was middle aged, and had a family, with children. But that does not reduce or increase the quantum of tragedy. In fact, the low key nature of things is because he is a State Services Officer. The fact is that any IAS officer would have had a security detail with him, and the death of any IAS officer in this manner would have caused massive scandal, and the bureaucracy would have raised cain.

Ideally when on such duty, he should have taken a police escort with him.

Vasu · Post by **Vasu** » 27 Jan 2011 16:55

You're absolutely right. I realized I had assumed to much when I saw that it was the main headline in some newspapers, which was surprising because I was fully expecting it to be a blip which the media would stay with momentarily.

The police has been swift to act as well after the media attention that this crime has generated.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 28 Jan 2011 20:12

So called police action in this case may be eye wash. It is now said some of the accused are "minors". So as per police Minors are doing oil mafia business in the Maharastra. Soon this case will be forgotten. Oil marker was no being given for many years under one pretext or another. Entire distribution network was left to states so that things can be manipulated and money can be looted.

Best thing would be decontrol of entire oil sector and exporting antire kirosin

Vasu · Post by **Vasu** » 29 Jan 2011 10:12

we're digressing from the theme of the thread here but it needs to be said that the media has picked up on Mr. Sonawane's murder, especially the television media. Yesterday, or the day before, majority of the government staff in Maharashtra stayed off from work and the GoM conducted raids across the state, eyewash may they be.

They've had discussions with people blasting subsidies and all the other shenanigans that the Government of India commits. They had the minister of State stating that nothing can be touched because its too politically sensitive. A news channel had a video which they say was shot by Sonawane months before his death of the oil thefts, and had submitted a report a long time ago against Popat and other mafia people. But the media is not okay to take on the actual politicians sitting in the state capitals and the national capital who run this entire scam.

Thats the crying shame of today - any reform that this country desperately needs is too politically sensitive.

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 30 Jan 2011 11:13

Sachin, would you be amenable to the start a "Civil Police Issues and Crimes Discussion Thread"?

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 31 Jan 2011 16:25

ASPuar wrote:Sachin, would you be amenable to the start a "Civil Police Issues and Crimes Discussion Thread"?

I am fine with that

. Perhaps ramana or some one who actually patrols this thread can do the honours

. But what we may have to watch out for is that it does not become a "ready reckoner for all thing bad in Indian police", or "bash the police" thread. This thread was more about reforms, or positive changes happening in the policing agencies (with whines being very less).

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 31 Jan 2011 21:55

AS Puar, Go ahead and start the thread and put the objectives in the frist post.

Thanks, ramana

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 01 Feb 2011 12:36

Sure, the idea being that there are threads for military, CPO, etc etc. But there is no Crimes and Police Investigations type thread available.. some of us are interested in that.

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 02 Feb 2011 06:48

More than 100 Indian Police Service (IPS) officers have signed up a campaign to raise money for the defence of Vipul Aggarwal, a 2001 batch officer jailed for nine months in the Tulsiram Prajapati encounter case. A joint team of Rajasthan and Gujarat police killed Prajapati on December 27, 2006 in Banaskantha district of Gujarat, where Aggarwal was SP.

On December 27, Udaipur SP MN Dinesh officially sought help from Aggarwal to nab Prajapati, who he said had escaped from custody and was in Banaskantha. Agarwal asked Pandya's team to assist the Rajasthan team and went on a night inspection of police stations under him. In the morning he was informed of the encounter, following which he had a series of conversations with Vanzara and Dinesh.

In a community where reputations fly fast, he is rated as an "extraordinarily honest and upright officer." He was never part of the ATS or the crime branch and had no motive to kill Prajapati. "He had all of Rs 23,000 when he was arrested. We have raised some Rs 6 lakh to fight his case so far and many more are coming forward," a batch-mate said.

IPS men unite to defend officer

Vasu · Post by **Vasu** » 02 Feb 2011 23:51

was searching for details on the shooting range in Worli in Mumbai when i came across this news item from 3 years ago. Apparently Mumbai Police officers get no shooting practice at all! I do not know if the situation has changed since August 2008.

BULL'S EYE in the basement

And where do Mumbai's police officers who are traditionally supposed to be associated with marksmanship get their target practice ? The answer: Nowhere. There isn't a single shooting range in Mumbai for police officers . "It's too costly an affair, and in any case, policemen are not supposed to be trained to open fire. Their job is to disperse crowds and defuse violent scenarios,'' says police historian Deepak Rao.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 03 Feb 2011 20:36

Kerala Police does away with the "District Armed Reserve" (ജില്ലാ സായുധ റിസർവ്വ്) cadre by merging it with the local Police. The idea is to fill up all vacancies which exist at the local police level (i.e at the various police stations and other law enforcement units), and also bring in a large number younger police men to the station level.
From Kerala Police Web site
Circular 1
Circular 1

Earlier the practise in Kerala was to recruit police men to the 7 Armed Police Battalions, where they also get their recruit training. And after serving some years in AP Battalions, move over to the Disrtict Armed Reserve camps and then onwards to their local district police units (Police Stations). This was some thing unique to Kerala, if I am not mistaken. In states like Karnataka, I see that there is a distinct Armed Police wing and a Civil Police wing and personnel do not get interchanged from one wing to another.

Vasu · Post by **Vasu** » 14 Feb 2011 12:01

New Delhi Police Act on the anvil

A brand new legislation that governs all aspects of policing in the Capital envisaging among other objectives insulating police from political pressure while doing “normal duty” will be placed before the Union Cabinet for approval by the end of this month.

According to Union Home Secretary G.K. Pillai, the new Delhi Police Act will not be just amendment oriented but will see a “complete revamp” of several of its provisions. The new act is expected to serve as a model for other states to follow.

“It is a complete revamp of this (existing Delhi Police Act). It is not an amendment of sorts. That was what a lot of civil society and others wanted. They did not want amendments; they wanted a fresh, new police act. That will come,” Mr. Pillai said.

The draft bill has been submitted to Union Home Minister P Chidambaram for final approval following which it will go to Cabinet by this month-end, Mr. Pillai told PTI in an interaction.

The new Bill is likely to suggest setting up of an authority to look into complaints against police independently besides fixing tenures for Police Commissioner and other senior officers.

The bill also envisages insulating police from political pressure while “doing normal duty”, Mr. Pillai said.

Emphasising that the new Bill demarcates responsibilities “very clearly”, he said it is likely to propose setting up of a State Security Commission having members from government, opposition and civil society.

The proposed Bill proposes “considerable amount” of autonomy to Police Commissioner and police in terms of investigation. “It separates normal law and order and investigation,” he said.

Mr. Pillai said the bill will incorporate most of the things recommended by Police Commissions and will serve as a role model for other states.

He said the proposed Police Complaint Authority will be headed by a retired High Court judge and have members from the civil society plus some retired police officers.

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 15 Feb 2011 16:02

Yes, but will the act make reccommendations for setting up police complaints authorities with the power to reccommend dismissal of errant officers? All these acts seemt o want to shield our brave cops from political pressure, not realising that sometimes, in a democracy, it is only pressure from politicians and the people that keeps the police on the straight and narrow.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 15 Feb 2011 17:58

ASPuar wrote:All these acts seemt o want to shield our brave cops from political pressure, not realising that sometimes, in a democracy, it is only pressure from politicians and the people that keeps the police on the straight and narrow.

This was the same argument which the Kerala Home Minister came up when the state set up a Police Complaint Authority, which did not have all recommendations from the SC directive included. The authority did not have the powers to determine the tenure of posting, or the number of transfers. It could recommend the tenure, but the government could still over-rule it and go ahead with its ideas. The HM said, "transfer" is the only weapon the police men are afraid off, and it has to be retained by the government. But at least in Kerala, transfers are not done because of people's demand or by popular demand, but because the officer in question is not in the good books of the ruling party of the day. We had cases in which individuals were thrown out of the selected list, just because they did not have the correct party leanings. The officers had to fight thier case in supreme court to get recruited (as SIs).

It is quite known in India that the police is a tool in the hands of the politicians. So when we think of using political pressure to make the police work, we also need to think of a mechanism where the same pressure is not misused to make the police work in a way which the ruling party of the day wants it.

How other police forces in other nations operate? Perhaps that may give us some ideas.

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 16 Feb 2011 11:18

Well, if we did some thinking, the ideal law enforcement agency is one which does exactly, and exclusively, that alone. Law enforcement. Which is to say, enforcement of the laws instituted for the benefit of society by our legislature, and interpreted by the courts.

Unfortunately, the personal element, and the fact the policemen have so much unchecked power over the people allows for corruption to come into the equation. Laws are wrongly enforced, or not enforced at all, for a fee. So we need a system which allows police to do its job without fear or favour, but also ensures that it is strongly committed to doing that job, and is punished if it strays from that path.

In the first place, I think the police leadership needs to be seperated from the UPSC Civil Service exam. The type of people who may make a good comptroller and auditor general will not necessarily make a good Policeman. Secondly, the "above the law" status of IPS officers (who are at the top, and set the example), must be removed. Hiding behind provisions of art 311 of the constitution of India, they can almost never be dismissed from service. This is not feasible or conducive to discipline.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 23 Feb 2011 22:17

Managed to lay hands on a book which I chanced to see on a online library. The book "Mumbai Police", published in the year 2004 when A.N Roy IPS was the Commissioner of Police. This "coffee table book" have quite a set of interesting information about the Police force, and also contain lots of vintage photographs.

The book also traces the creation of major units in the police force (Bombay CID, the Crime Branch CID, Detection of Crime Branch etc. etc.). A short biography and pictures of the old Police commissioners also is included (which is a kind of a must for all such books). The publisher of the book is Commissioner of Police, Mumbai.

http://i51.tinypic.com/24on1pv.jpg
The famous Bombay CID. A photo taken in 1929. The unit was formed in 1909.

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The old Bombay H & I Divisions (Port Police). Snap taken in 1914.

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At the left, Sub-Inspector (later ACP) Madhukar B Zende, the man who caught Charles Shobhraj twice

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The Mumbai underworld. From top left (clock wise). M/s Haji Masthan, Karim Lala, Dawood, Arun Gawli, Dawood, Chotta Rajan. Abdul Hameed 'Kunju' shot dead in a bar at Dongri (1988). The illusturated weekly seems to have come up with an issue, with Varadaraja Mudaliar as the cover story.

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 08 Mar 2011 05:18

Hovercrafts inducted into Manipur Police

Manipur Police inducted three hovercrafts, military assault boats from USA, into its Loktak Protection Force in a ceremony held at Takmu, Loktak lake today.

With this, the state police has become the first police force in the country having military assault boats, according to DGP, Y Joykumar.

Chief Minister, Okram Ibobi Singh, who attended the launching ceremony, said that the air-cushion vehicle (ACV) will not only be used to flush out insurgents taking shelter in the lake but also for the conservation of the only fresh water lake in the NE.

The CM asserted that Loktak lake is used by insurgents to carry out anti-social activities in the valley areas.

They take shelter in the huts built by fishermen on phumdi (floating biomass).

With the induction of the hovercrafts, the police will be able to dominate the lake by constant patrolling.

If necessary more hovercrafts will by purchased, he said.

The military assault boats, each have a capacity to carry 10 different types of sophisticated weapons.
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SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 05 Apr 2011 16:04

This practice MUST end.

This practice was totally BRITISH to control us!, and can't continue anymore.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 05 Apr 2011 21:41

SaiK wrote:This practice MUST end.

. And instead of that when an unruly mob does not behave in a civilised manner, instead of getting them in line the Indian police should follow the totally Indian tradition of "Falling at the feet". First the police constable does the begging, followed by the head constable and then the sub-inspector. Then Dy.SP and Co would start with a "Nirahara Sathyagraha" at the venue.

This practice was totally BRITISH to control us!, and can't continue anymore.

You must be pretty naive to say that police in other parts of the world run the show using Gandhi-giri. What you see here is a police man getting a group of youngsters not following an queue system, follow a queue system. And from the uniform of the police man, it should be Bangalore (or some where in Karnataka). Police have to use a bit of force, because India is certainly not a country where a police man comes and says "okay..fall in single line" and the crowd just follows suit.

This BRITISH

practise can come to an end, if the INDIAN citizens also start behaving in a better fashion when they go for any sporting events and are in a mood to listen to a police officer, who tries to maintain the law and order.

Aditya G · Post by **Aditya G** » 05 Apr 2011 23:46

I personally wish the cops would use the danda much more than they do right now, rather than accept bribes!

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 06 Apr 2011 23:35

So true. Only police in India behaves in this uncivilized way. Or do they?

Heres the German "Polizei", taking care of business:

But really, the British have become very enlightened since the colonial era. Their own police would never beat their own citizens. Err, wouldnt they?

Heres one of the most famous police beatings in history. Rodney King was thrashed by the Los Angeles Police Dept, setting off the 1991 LA Police riots. This happened in the USA.

So you see, police forces the world over pretty much deal with unruly people in much the same way. You know why?

, just kidding. Usually when excessive force is used, the people who it is used on are not listening to any other form of persuasion.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 07 Apr 2011 07:25

okay.. better line system can prevent mobbing.. basically crowd management, and issuing tickets if that is the case.. why make them crowd in the first place? systemic correction is required. police brutality must stop., and it can be prevented by more organized setup. prevention is better than cure.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 07 Apr 2011 13:50

SaiK wrote:okay.. better line system can prevent mobbing..

This has to be done by the civic authorities (not the police). In the picture you posted, the civic agencies who manage the stadium at Bangalore had not put up any proper infrastructure in place. The first 50 people may have stood in a line (because of some minimal barricades), but then the 500 behind them had no inclination to do so.

basically crowd management, and issuing tickets if that is the case.. why make them crowd in the first place?

Again question for civic agencies who issued the tickets. It was not the police who did that. Here, there was no indication on the number of tickets to be issued. The people were just pushing in, having a stupid idea that some how pushing ahead and crushing the people in front of them would make them reach the ticket counter quickly.

police brutality must stop.,

Agreed on this, but with a caveat. This was not a case when a few police men just barged into a place pulled out a few people and thrashed them to pulp, for the fun of it. That is brutality. Here, it was a case of another civic agency not doing its job properly, and then expecting the police to do the dirty business thrashing the people, and make them behave themselves. As I said earlier "this is a dirty job, but some body needs to do it" (and here it was the police man from Bengaluru's finest).

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 21 Apr 2011 15:16

Sachin.. just pointing.. I know the corrections is a multi-faceted act.. but it has to start somewhere first, and there is no other place than the cops who wields the baton.. and let them put forward the crowd management solutions to the right civic authorities. Aaam people has no say here as of current liberty status.

[pl note: the context is aaam people and not criminals, and until proven guilty all "petty criminals" are aaam people as well.]
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UAV for VVIPs! I would say install better permanent technology solutions like installations of video camera, traffic radars and signal management, etc to aaam people. Automagically VVIP can be covered.

^^^this is the current status about aaam liberty!

Vasu · Post by **Vasu** » 21 Apr 2011 19:56

Aditya G wrote:I personally wish the cops would use the danda much more than they do right now, rather than accept bribes!

Punjab Police have been known to be quite liberal with the danda, and they're a relatively better loved police force by their state denizens.

If you're caught doing something stupid, first they'll give you the danda, and then hear your side. If nothing else, it at least gives the idiots some second thoughts, and I am sure prevents a lot of petty crimes such as harrassment of women and petty thieving.