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Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 27 Nov 2015 19:15

India loose 3-0 to Argentina. Very poor hockey by India against what looked like a not so extraordinary opponent. India is not playing Indian style hockey. It is trying unsuccessfully to play the European style. Is that the problem?

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 27 Nov 2015 19:41

We need to put Harendra Singh in charge of the senior men's hockey team.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 Nov 2015 19:03

The question has come up on the TSP thread as to whether/why BCCI needs to get government permission to have a cricket series with TSP. After all, if India is a free country, why would anyone need government permissions to set up a sports tournament? What are the applicable laws, etc.?

I have found one document
http://yas.nic.in/sites/default/files/F ... ressed.pdf (Large PDF file)
titled "Government of India National Sports Development Code of India, 2011".

While as state subject, sports development comes within the purview of the States up to the state level;at the national and international level, (including meeting international treaty obligations), it falls within the realm and remit of the Union Government under its residuary powers and within the ambit of Entries 10 and 13 of the Union List in the Seventh Schedule of the Constitution of India

...even though national sports bodies are autonomous in nature both the Supreme Court of India and several High Courts have, in various judgments, maintained that although national sports bodies are not ̳State‘ within the meaning of Article 12 of the Constitution of India, they come within the writ jurisdiction of High Courts under Article 226 of the Constitution of India because they perform state-like functions such as the selection of national teams and representing the country in international sports events and forums.

Hon‘ble High Court of Delhi,in Civil Writ Petition No.7868 of 2005, in the matter of Indian Hockey Federation, while disposing off the matter vide Order dated 02.03.2010, categorically observed that the Government guidelines governing the NSFs are valid, binding and enforceable; and the tenure clause is not in violation of the International Olympic Charter.

The Hon‘ble Court also observed that the Government of India is fully competent to make regulations on NSFs and IOA. The Hon‘ble Delhi High Court further cited entry 10 and 13
of List I (Union List) which read as under:
- Entry 10: Foreign affairs, all matters which bring the Union into relation with any foreign country.
- Entry 13: Participation in international conferences, associations and other bodies and implementing of decisions made thereat

Based on the above, the Hon‘ble Court observed that while an NSF** has autonomy in the actual conduct of sports, Government recognition is necessary to represent the country.

It further observed that international sporting events are an essential part of diplomatic relations of the nations, and several considerations like security concerns of players,
apartheid, and perceived human rights violations have guided nations in decisions to participate or not to participate in sporting events in different countries. Political and diplomatic clearances are, therefore, required by the Indian teams before participation in the international tournaments and forums.

The Court pointed out that no State Government has the competence or the jurisdiction to undertake such exercise, which is the sole prerogative of the Union Government.

**NSF = National Sports Federation

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 28 Nov 2015 19:03

Sindhu in Macau open final. She won it last time. She needs to improve her rankings before OG to not face top ranked players early on. Meanwhile, India played much better hockey against Germany drawing 1-1. Wish they had played similarly against Argentina and the result would have been much better.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 28 Nov 2015 22:17

And Srikanth lost in the first round to a nobody. He has a serious motivation issue to be sorted out. He should have easily qualified for the year end finals, but did not, because of his poor performance this year after starting brightly. Last year he made it all the way to the semifinal of the year end championship. Sindhu on the other hand, beat a lot of strong players on the way to the final, even though Macau Open was missing the top Chinese.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 29 Nov 2015 14:33

Sindhu wins Macau open.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 29 Nov 2015 17:17

India holds Germany 1-1

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 30 Nov 2015 20:14

India loose 3-1 to Netherlands. Poor defense. Still fumbling with top teams.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 30 Nov 2015 22:05

The hockey world league preliminaries are just classification matches. All 8 teams still make the quarterfinals. However, since we are at the bottom of group B, we face the top team in group A, which could be Britain, Australia or Belgium.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 01 Dec 2015 19:17

Any news about Asian Shooting Qualifying event? where is it happening now that Kuwait one has been disqualified?

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 01 Dec 2015 19:21

would be hosted in delhi from jan 25 to feb 3. via google search "Asian Shooting Qualifying".

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 02 Dec 2015 00:56

cool! Thanks! now that it is happening at New Delhi I expect to win more than 16 gold medals that we won at Kuwait.

http://www.issf-sports.org/news.ashx

Thirty-five Rio 2016 Olympic Quota Places will be distributed at the Rifle, Pistol and Shotgun competition, which will be held between the 25th January and the 3rd of February 2016 in New Delhi (IND)

The International Olympic Committee (IOC) has approved the ISSF recommendation to organize the “Asia Olympic Qualifying Competition for Shooting” in New Delhi, India from 25 January (arrival) until 3 February (departure).

After the IOC decided, on 29 October, to revoke the Olympic qualifying status of the Asian Shooting Championship, the ISSF took immediate steps to ensure that the 35 Shooting quotas would be awarded to Asian athletes in a high-level alternate competition. The ISSF invited all member federations in Asia to submit proposals to host this competition. Five federations expressed interest in organizing this competition and three of them submitted excellent, complete proposals. After evaluating these proposals, the ISSF Executive Committee selected the proposal from the National Rifle Association of India because it was the only proposal to organize all Olympic events in one competition at one place in New Delhi.

Participating federations will be responsible for international travel to New Delhi, but there will be no entry fees and no costs at the host city for local transportation, hotels and meals. Each federation can enter a maximum of 3 athletes in the competition and 2 MQS athletes only plus one rifle/pistol team official and one shotgun team official. Additional officials will be at the cost of the participating federation. Three to five star hotels have been selected. Details for the competition schedule and Official Program (General Information) are being worked out with the National Rifle Association of India and will be posted on the ISSF website in the beginning of December.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 03 Dec 2015 19:09

India beat Britain 2-1. But I still feel they are not a good defensive team.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 03 Dec 2015 21:49

We play Belgium in one semifinal, while Australia and Netherlands face off in the other.

There's a clear gap between the top 3 (Australia, Netherlands and Germany) and the next 3 (Britain, Argentina and India). Clearly, in recent years we've shown we can beat Britain, Belgium and Argentina. We've also been good at taking on the Germans. It's the Dutch and Aussies we are yet to have a measure of. They both have excellent penalty corner skills. We are one of the best at open play, but we are vulnerable to counterattacks and our PC skills are a notch below the best. Even Britain has better PC capability.

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 03 Dec 2015 23:04

From what I saw last year and performances over the last few years, Aussies are a notch above the rest. They are in a league of their own.

Bhurishrava · Post by **Bhurishrava** » 04 Dec 2015 00:02

Something is seriously wrong with Srikanth. He had to sweat it out in the 2nd round of the Indonesian Grand Prix Gold event. He won the final set 25-23.
He is supremely talented and its sad to see him wasting it all away. I am hoping that he wins this Grand Prix Gold event at least to regain some confidence before the Dubai Masters.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 04 Dec 2015 00:23

Is he even playing in the Dubai event ? Last year at this time he won one of the big 3 events by winning the China Open beating Lin Dan. This year he's sweating it out in a lowly Grand Prix Gold event. Sad from a top 5 player.

Bhurishrava · Post by **Bhurishrava** » 04 Dec 2015 00:28

He is ranked 9. 8 players are allowed. 2 from each country. There are three chinese in top 8 so one of them is out. That means srikanth must be in. Lets see.

Ankit Desai · Post by **Ankit Desai** » 04 Dec 2015 07:20

Suraj wrote:Is he even playing in the Dubai event ? Last year at this time he won one of the big 3 events by winning the China Open beating Lin Dan. This year he's sweating it out in a lowly Grand Prix Gold event. Sad from a top 5 player.

Only two players are going to play from India Nehwal and Srikant.

Suraj wrote:We play Belgium in one semifinal, while Australia and Netherlands face off in the other.

There's a clear gap between the top 3 (Australia, Netherlands and Germany) and the next 3 (Britain, Argentina and India). Clearly, in recent years we've shown we can beat Britain, Belgium and Argentina. We've also been good at taking on the Germans. It's the Dutch and Aussies we are yet to have a measure of. They both have excellent penalty corner skills. We are one of the best at open play, but we are vulnerable to counterattacks and our PC skills are a notch below the best. Even Britain has better PC capability.

With Terry Walsh India were looking to catch up Aussies but his absence sent India at least a year back. Men's champions trophy in May/'16 will give us idea about India's chance in Rio.

-Ankit

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 04 Dec 2015 09:32

Thakur Anoop Singh And 12 Other Bodybuilders Who made India Proud.

Quite a few Mr International, Mr World, Mr Asia and Mr Universe. Prem Chand Degra is missing from the list.

adityadange · Post by **adityadange** » 04 Dec 2015 10:01

^^ Among these bodybuilders i have seen Sangram Chougule in a local orchestra which he attended as spectator. Although he was fully dressed his muscles bulging out like anything. every one in the crowd was looking at him again and again. he is really a terrific bodybuilder.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 04 Dec 2015 12:45

A cousin of mine is making a short film on Manohar Aich. It is stuck for want of funding.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 04 Dec 2015 13:59

Ankit Desai wrote:With Terry Walsh India were looking to catch up Aussies but his absence sent India at least a year back. Men's champions trophy in May/'16 will give us idea about India's chance in Rio.

What was the story behind the Terry Walsh episode ? I've heard multiple tales, from HI being shortsighted, to Walsh himself being demanding.

Roelant Oltmans is a good coach, with a strong record of coaching Netherlands to world and Olympic titles.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 04 Dec 2015 18:24

Hockey is a fast game. India are good at stick play but lack passing, interception and running skills compared to the best. Plus PC conversion. The Aussies are good at all five. The Germans and Dutch lack superior stick skills but make up for that in other areas. Hope the pressure of HIL will improve things as if you are not good you will get eliminated from the market.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 04 Dec 2015 20:40

by Suraj
What was the story behind the Terry Walsh episode ? I've heard multiple tales, from HI being shortsighted, to Walsh himself being demanding.

http://sports.ndtv.com/hockey/news/2332 ... ckey-coach

"Terry Walsh quits. After his second term remained unresolved following a marathon six-hour meeting by the special Sports Authority of India committee on Monday, Hockey India president Narinder Batra had alleged financial irregularities during Walsh's tenure."

In Belgium last year during Half Time the Hockey India president Narinder Batra wanted to give playing points to Indian team which Paul van Ass last hockey coach resisted. After the match Mr. Batra fired the coach.

Hockey India is still having the same old administrative issues. They need to put old players like
Ajitpal Singh, Vasudev Bhaskaran, Pargat Singh, Ramandeep Singh, Zafar Iqbal, Bharat Chhetri, Pillay, etc. in charge of the administration. These players care about Hockey. Narinder Batra does not!

Bhurishrava · Post by **Bhurishrava** » 05 Dec 2015 10:27

Terry Walsh was accused by Hockey USA of financial irregularities. Narinder Batra said he didnt want a tainted person as coach. But there is more to that than meets the eye.

Apparently Batra had asked him to stay for one month before the champions league and Walsh had refused angering him.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 05 Dec 2015 13:47

Kidambi in Indonesian masters final. But he doesn't look in good form. Lack of concentration and inconsistent but he is extremely talented. I think the coach needs to work on him more.

Bhurishrava · Post by **Bhurishrava** » 05 Dec 2015 13:56

He is playing tentative. Lack of confidence. I saw him playing againt Jorgensen in Dubai Masters just after he had beaten Lin Dan. He was playing amazing.
Hope he wins the masters. That will boost his confidence.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 05 Dec 2015 19:03

India loose to Belgium by a goal. Played good hockey but could not convert chances.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 05 Dec 2015 20:56

Pro-wrestling league is going to start this year. Next target should be to get a pro-boxing league started. Meanwhile, badminton league has gone into coma due to too many international competitions.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 06 Dec 2015 14:02

Kidambi looses to Sugiarto. Excellent and close third game. His game is error-prone but brilliant in parts. If he can work on consistency he is champion material.

Ankit Desai · Post by **Ankit Desai** » 06 Dec 2015 19:47

India defeated Netherlands in penalty shoot out after ending 5-5 in regular time and won Bronze medal.

Good show boys. What a fighting spirit after trailing 0-2 took the lead 3-2. Oltmans is doing good job so far.

-Ankit

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 06 Dec 2015 19:58

Congrats to the Indian team. But why are they trying to play a defensive game? Everytime they are doing that they are conceding goals. India in the past was always an offensive side. Anyway, it seems now they are able to compete with the best. Next tournament will be the champions trophy and onto the OG. Good luck to India.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 06 Dec 2015 23:03

Pretty impressive indeed to beat the Dutch. Here's the highlights on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx15fbNMCns

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 07 Dec 2015 02:41

Indian defense (hockey) is strong it is the offense that was lacking till today. I was immpressed by the forwards today!

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 07 Dec 2015 10:57

They conceded the second most number of goals in the WHL semi-final and final round. Even against the Dutch they conceded two goals in the last session.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 07 Dec 2015 11:30

The two Dutch goals at the end came from Mink van der Weerden. He scored 3/5 of their goals + 1 of the shootouts. He's one of the most fearsome penalty corner experts in the world, was the highest scorer in the last Olympics and scored in every match he played then. On the other hand, our own Rupinder scored the same number of goals as Mink in this game. The Dutch aim at opposition players' bodies to force PCs, where they then use their monsters like Mink. They pioneered the approach, starting with Paul Litjens, and then Ties Kruize, Floris Bovelander, Taeke Taekema and now Weerden. We've only recently started having strong drag flickers in the team .

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 07 Dec 2015 18:05

True that. India was unable to employ that technique against Belgium.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 07 Dec 2015 20:49

The Dutch and Germans have many players whose previous generation of family got spanked by the famous Indian hockey teams of yesteryear. Ties Kruize who went on to become the best penalty corner expert after Litjens, for example. His dad was on the Dutch team who got blown away 6-1 by us in the 1952 Olympics final, after losing to us in the 1948 games as well. They kept at it devising a more muscular form of the game to suit their abilities, and penalty corners became the center piece of that.

When they won gold at 1996 Olympics, all their goals in the final came from Bovelander's penalty corner hits. Actually look up that final on Youtube and you'll see a much younger Roelant Oltmans as their coach back then. I think he's a good guy and dedicated coach. On the Dutch news site, he was complaining that the team got excited trying for 6-4 and ended up 5-5 at the end instead. We should have started getting good at penalty corners (getting them and stopping them) earlier. At least now we have big guys like Rupinder and Raghunath who can crush PCs well too.

New teams like Belgium and France getting strong are a result of the European Hockey League. The club system there gives them a lot of top flight game practice, building strong national teams out of nations with no prior history. Thankfully we are catching up again. Our bronze is the first medal at a world level FIH event in over 3 decades. So far we have only won or medaled in continental events. More to come soon in WC, CT and OG I hope. We finished 4th at CT last time, and now 3rd in WHL. Definitely an upward trend; we usually barely make the top 6 at this level.

Bhurishrava · Post by **Bhurishrava** » 07 Dec 2015 23:12

I saw some hockey matches of india last year in Delhi. And I couldnt help but notice that physically Indian players were more than a match for the Europeans and Australians. And too strong for Bangladeshi team.
I think it is more of motivation and to some level endurance.

In fotball though, we are still not there physically.