Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 02 Oct 2011 17:08

kiki ji, however vehemently you disagree with somebody please find a way to express that in polite terms, as you would in real life. also, it's a good idea to objectively mention how someone is wrong instead of using broad brush adjectives like BS and imagination.

member_19805 · Post by **member_19805** » 02 Oct 2011 23:38

Rahul M wrote:kiki ji, however vehemently you disagree with somebody please find a way to express that in polite terms, as you would in real life. also, it's a good idea to objectively mention how someone is wrong instead of using broad brush adjectives like BS and imagination.

Copy that Sir....apologies rendered....request a lil latitude if at times it does get a lil overbearing

atreya · Post by **atreya** » 03 Oct 2011 00:06

Kiki saab, can you now tell us the mistakes in Gaur's post and what the real deal is?

vishal_shah · Post by **vishal_shah** » 04 Oct 2011 04:58

hey Viv S I was wondering if you have any information regarding the aspirants eligibility with a foreign degree??
I'd appreciate your reply. Thanks

Viv S · Post by **Viv S** » 06 Oct 2011 22:50

vishal_shah wrote:hey Viv S I was wondering if you have any information regarding the aspirants eligibility with a foreign degree??
I'd appreciate your reply. Thanks

Answered here.

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... &start=280

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 16 Oct 2011 09:17

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/ndtv-i ... 3685?hphin

Awesome video of nsg.

sum · Post by **sum** » 16 Oct 2011 13:31

^^ Wonder what was written on the info boards of Spetsnaz/Sayeret Matkal etc whch were displayed on the NSG grounds at the start of the video...

Dmurphy · Post by **Dmurphy** » 16 Oct 2011 17:20

^^^ At 17.20 in that clip, they've shown lady commandos

. Didn't know NSG had lady commandos.

Gaur · Post by **Gaur** » 16 Oct 2011 17:33

^^
This was also discussed in Multimedia thread. Women were originally inducted into SRG for protection of female VIPs. According to some news reports, they have now also been entrusted with the duty sky marshal.
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/4996.asp

The 12 members of the squad are likely to be deployed for protection of Chief Minister of southern state Tamil Nadu, J Jayalalithaa and Bahujan Samaj Party chief Mayawati, both of whom enjoy Z Plus category security.

The commandos, drawn from Central Reserve Police Force, have undergone rigorous training at the NSG's training centre in Manesar in Delhi's satellite town Gurgaon, sources in the force said.

Aged between 24 and 34, the girls were selected from among scores of personnel from various forces who had applied for donning the black dungaree with an arm band ''Black Cat Commando'', the sources said.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... mandos-nsg

Women commandos trained to guard Mayawati and Jayalalita, will now have a different job. The home ministry has decided to deploy them as sky marshals.

The decision to deploy sky marshals was taken after the Kandhahar hijack. Routes such as Punjab and Kashmir in the domestic sector and Lahore, Kabul and Dhaka in the international sector are generally covered by sky marshals.

chackojoseph · Post by **chackojoseph** » 16 Oct 2011 22:23

NSG commandos head count to increase by 2000, to get Artificial Intelligence weapons

Artificial Intelligence + modern gadgets + training.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 16 Oct 2011 23:26

chackojoseph wrote:NSG commandos head count to increase by 2000, to get Artificial Intelligence weapons

Artificial Intelligence + modern gadgets + training.

Chacko ji, what in God's name are Artificial Intelligence weapons? The term seems to be a wrong one based on the what is described in the article and I don't see any direct quote from the DG NSG referring them to as such either.

Gaur · Post by **Gaur** » 16 Oct 2011 23:41

Why is the term "artificial intelligence" mentioned in multiple articles? It doesn't make any sense. I have a feeling that PTI did a mistake which carried over to other media outlets.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 17 Oct 2011 00:00

The trust towards artificial intel "gadgets", within DRDO, started around 2006-7. IF that is true, then we should be seeing some products in the time frame the articles state. Frontier has replaced "gadgets" with "weapons" (so what is new?).

Now, what are these gadgets? TBD.

Added l8r:

See if we can find something from this article:

Robot soldiers!

chackojoseph · Post by **chackojoseph** » 17 Oct 2011 12:00

Gaur wrote:Why is the term "artificial intelligence" mentioned in multiple articles? It doesn't make any sense. I have a feeling that PTI did a mistake which carried over to other media outlets.

We don't use news agencies.

Raja Bose wrote:
chackojoseph wrote:NSG commandos head count to increase by 2000, to get Artificial Intelligence weapons

Artificial Intelligence + modern gadgets + training.
Chacko ji, what in God's name are Artificial Intelligence weapons? The term seems to be a wrong one based on the what is described in the article and I don't see any direct quote from the DG NSG referring them to as such either.

It is a mistake. it should be gadgets.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 17 Oct 2011 12:02

TOI had a big front page article today on NSG expansion and equipping of 2 batallions (1500) with new kit by 2015. not sure if its one of the numerous post-mumbai-attack proposals gathering dust thats been er dusted off, or something new.

merlin · Post by **merlin** » 17 Oct 2011 13:56

Singha wrote:TOI had a big front page article today on NSG expansion and equipping of 2 batallions (1500) with new kit by 2015. not sure if its one of the numerous post-mumbai-attack proposals gathering dust thats been er dusted off, or something new.

Probably perceived threats (to the hinds of the netas) may have become more sophisticated and hence all this.

Gaur · Post by **Gaur** » 17 Oct 2011 16:14

Chacko sahab,
But what does "artificial intelligence" has to do with any of the gadgets? Could you please make some queries regarding this. Frankly, if it was not coming from you, I would have been laughing at this and calling it ddm.

Using the term AI makes more sense for battlefield simulators, where the enemy action needs to be simulated (similar to modern videogames). But surely that is not a gadget which a soldier would carry to a battlefield.

Making a wild guess, maybe they are talking about sensors to evaluate the environment and adjust to the situation. For eg, a medical sensor which monitors soldier's health and provides some diagnosis and instructions if there is some problem? That could be considered an AI system.

As I said, it's all very confusing and it would be very much appreciated if you would shed some light on this matter.

chackojoseph · Post by **chackojoseph** » 17 Oct 2011 16:26

Sure, I will dig into this.

Rajput · Post by **Rajput** » 18 Oct 2011 10:05

1 Para (SF) celebrates Raising Day

250 years and counting....

Gaur · Post by **Gaur** » 18 Oct 2011 10:22

^^
Thanks for sharing that. Loved the one liner on the beer mugs.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 18 Oct 2011 10:35

chackojoseph wrote: It is a mistake. it should be gadgets.

Even with gadgets, it makes no sense as Gaur has stated. If anything the misleading title made the otherwise excellent article sound amateurish. Perhaps the intention was to compare it with soldier of the future type systems where the soldier himself/herself is an individual self-contained unit but at the same time is part of a networked system where the soldier acts both as a sensor for the system but also is a consumer of the aggregated information trickling back - which leads them to have high situational awareness at the individual as well as unit level.

Marut · Post by **Marut** » 18 Oct 2011 12:55

Rajput wrote:1 Para (SF) celebrates Raising Day

250 years and counting....

From the IE article wrote:.
....
Getting into 1 Para is voluntary. An army personnel opting for it has to undergo a three-month probation which decides the fate of the personnel in the Unit.
....

There we go again with the 3 month probation. Can someone from Para(SF) unequivocally state officially what the probation period is?

prithvi · Post by **prithvi** » 18 Oct 2011 20:13

Marut wrote:
Rajput wrote:1 Para (SF) celebrates Raising Day

250 years and counting....

From the IE article wrote:.
....
Getting into 1 Para is voluntary. An army personnel opting for it has to undergo a three-month probation which decides the fate of the personnel in the Unit.
....
There we go again with the 3 month probation. Can someone from Para(SF) unequivocally state officially what the probation period is?

No Old Monk for 3 months

Gaur · Post by **Gaur** » 27 Oct 2011 00:57

Gaur wrote:Cross posting from Multimedia thread.

jimmy_moh wrote:http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/jai-ja ... oor/214622

SF with tavors
Its a must watch people. The program shows 1 Para SF in action at their home turf (Nahan).

PS: Take a look at the Sikh Soldier receiving award during Army Day 2011.

I think he is the same Sub Major who was introduced to Ranbir Kapoor during his visit to the barracks.

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 27 Oct 2011 10:54

Guys, Jai Jawan at 2pm IST TODAY.....Ranbir Kapoor with 1 PARA(SF) in Nahan. Do watch NDTV Profit.

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 27 Oct 2011 10:56

OK. Let me raise the BP of Surya-ullah a bit - what is the badge below the Combat Divers badge, and above the medals, on his (SM sahab) left side?

Aditya G · Post by **Aditya G** » 27 Oct 2011 11:54

^ National Security Guard (?)

vaibhav.n · Post by **vaibhav.n** » 27 Oct 2011 12:01

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 27 Oct 2011 12:07

vaibhav.n wrote:

The usual suspects...

KiranM · Post by **KiranM** » 27 Oct 2011 12:42

Cannot view the link since streaming media restricted at work. But guessing from Rohit's and Vaibhav's glee and Surya's reference, should be a SG/ SFF badge.

sum · Post by **sum** » 28 Oct 2011 09:20

SG badge onlee....same was on major Udai's pics in his website too ( The Mavericks).

Marut · Post by **Marut** » 28 Oct 2011 12:34

rohitvats, didn't you have enough fun with the Diwali crackers?

sure to raise his BP

Gaur · Post by **Gaur** » 30 Oct 2011 20:18

Some more pics of Parachute Regiment:

IIRC, he Brig M Kumar from 1 Para SF. His parent regiment is AMC (Army Medical Corps). He had para jumped at the age of 76 at the occasion of an AMC conference at AMC Centre, Lucknow.

9 PARA SF:

2 PARA SF:

10 PARA SF:

Inauguration of Para Repair wing:

Yudh Abhyas 2010:

pmund · Post by **pmund** » 30 Oct 2011 23:55

OK. Let me raise the BP of Surya-ullah a bit - what is the badge below the Combat Divers badge, and above the medals, on his (SM sahab) left side?

Looks like jumpmaster wings, have they started handing out those now? Doesnt look like the NSG bagde

Ashutosh Malik · Post by **Ashutosh Malik** » 31 Oct 2011 10:39

pmund wrote:
OK. Let me raise the BP of Surya-ullah a bit - what is the badge below the Combat Divers badge, and above the medals, on his (SM sahab) left side?
Looks like jumpmaster wings, have they started handing out those now? Doesnt look like the NSG bagde

SG only.

Best.

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 31 Oct 2011 17:09

SG only.

Surya · Post by **Surya** » 31 Oct 2011 17:25

Time to send rohit to Reeducation camp!!!!

vaibhav.n · Post by **vaibhav.n** » 31 Oct 2011 20:13

Rohit you are within sights!!

Surya · Post by **Surya** » 31 Oct 2011 20:55

err vaibhav

source for the picture else you too go to reeducation camp!!!

Marut · Post by **Marut** » 31 Oct 2011 22:13

^^7.62mm Galil sniper and Tadiran radios with combat load vest... makes me guess they are 31 RR(Cdo)

Note the ear plugs! Nice touch. Btw what is the shiny piece of metal on the left upper arm. Something on the dress itself or any projection nearby.

PS: Maybe he is Amar Singh!