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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2012 01:13 
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More Chakra videos via Aroor.



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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2012 14:50 
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NDTV Documentary on Yudh Abhyas 2012 आतंक के खिलाफ साझा तैयारी

This is a comprehensive video.


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PostPosted: 09 Apr 2012 07:02 
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Apache Block III helicopter performs well in tests

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Army's AH-64 Apache Block III next-generation attack helicopter is finishing up its Initial Operational Test and Evaluation at Fort Irwin, Calif., and should be ready to deploy with Soldiers sometime next year,
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So far, the Army has already taken delivery of 10 of the Boeing-built AH 64 Apache Block III aircraft, a helicopter engineered to bring the Apache fleet improved, next-generation range, performance, maneuverability and electronics. Total planned procurement for the Apache Block III is 690 aircraft.
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PostPosted: 10 Apr 2012 13:04 
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NDTV documentary on Yudhabhyas 2012.
part 1

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/ndtv-i ... ory/228578


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PostPosted: 18 Apr 2012 18:41 
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Kee Bird



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kee_Bird

Cheers....


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PostPosted: 18 Apr 2012 21:51 
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Well. My fault. I should have looked at the WiKi page first. The heroism and sense of adventure is great but the video has a lousy ending and I wish I hadn't spent nearly an hour watching. Pah!

They sepnd over one year shipping 4 new engines and repairing the plane. The man who does much of the mechanical work actually dies. And then the plane burns up as it is about to take off.


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PostPosted: 18 Apr 2012 22:06 
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Shiv ji, Techno Firangi got it good.

You remember these firangis didnt allow even one Indian on board any of the ships in the movie '2012', not even the Jimi Mistry who was shown no less a tech expert.

Just kidding here.

I think I have seen that movie and if it is what i think it is then it was a reasonable movie. Is it the movie where everything depends on one guy who has only made a model plane and who then rather convincingly explains why modelling is more difficult then the bigger ones?


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PostPosted: 19 Apr 2012 14:07 
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Shiv ji, Techno Firangi got it good.

You remember these firangis didnt allow even one Indian on board any of the ships in the movie '2012', not even the Jimi Mistry who was shown no less a tech expert.

Just kidding here.

I think I have seen that movie and if it is what i think it is then it was a reasonable movie. Is it the movie where everything depends on one guy who has only made a model plane and who then rather convincingly explains why modelling is more difficult then the bigger ones?


What I did not write in my post is that those 54 minutes were extremely well made and very watchable and I have only admiration for the technical skills that exist among mango Americans. But the whole thing was such a let down after all that :(


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PostPosted: 19 Apr 2012 16:28 
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ravi_g wrote:
I think I have seen that movie and if it is what i think it is then it was a reasonable movie. Is it the movie where everything depends on one guy who has only made a model plane and who then rather convincingly explains why modelling is more difficult then the bigger ones?


It is not what you think it to be, you are referring to this or this.

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^ yes the 1965 version. Thanks.


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PostPosted: 20 Apr 2012 02:24 
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vikrant wrote:
ravi_g wrote:
I think I have seen that movie and if it is what i think it is then it was a reasonable movie. Is it the movie where everything depends on one guy who has only made a model plane and who then rather convincingly explains why modelling is more difficult then the bigger ones?


It is not what you think it to be, you are referring to this or this.

Cheers....

That movie in 1965 was made to show the public that they can win the cold war and they need to work together with everybody doing their part.

They created another one in 2002? and the purpose and the message are the same.


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PostPosted: 20 Apr 2012 15:31 
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Su-27 FAMILY SUKHOI-KNAAPO FIGHTERS



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The Battle of Moscow and the Wehrmacht’s First Defeat. Archive Footage


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PostPosted: 24 Apr 2012 07:09 
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Can someone translate what the jawans are saying.

Handwara forest encounter video with jawans. Amazing. Look at the great lengths they go through.

http://www.timesnow.tv/5-Lashkar-milita ... 399874.cms


This video is a keeper, either for download or finding a permanent YouTube url. It illustrates why the army cannot use helicopter gunships in Kashmir. The problem is similar to what the Americans faced in Vietnam - and even the "solution" of tearing up forest with a circling Gatling armed C-130 and deforestation using the chemical Agent Orange to denude wide areas of forest did not work.

As an aside the US has been no better than Saddam in the use of chemical weapons and mass human extermination to attempt victories that do not happen.


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A good one on the Astute class.



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PostPosted: 26 Apr 2012 08:27 
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Good/informative series on the Harrier history.

Harrier story.

Part1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi7r_uZA ... ure=relmfu
P2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOV01TRe ... ure=relmfu
P3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuY0GMvW ... ure=relmfu
P4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2wMdxQ4 ... ure=relmfu
P5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzpl7APo ... ure=relmfu
P6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BaFQtQQ ... ure=relmfu


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PostPosted: 26 Apr 2012 17:42 
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Amazing how the vehicle disappears on the thermal sights.. :)


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PostPosted: 28 Apr 2012 23:46 
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WALK the talk with DRDO Chief


EDIT: First shots of the inside of the new DRDO HQ in Delhi. Very impressive.


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PostPosted: 29 Apr 2012 02:23 
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HQ can be non descript

its the lab\research centers need to be impressive


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PostPosted: 29 Apr 2012 05:39 
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Surya wrote:
HQ can be non descript

its the lab\research centers need to be impressive


No doubt sir, but its not an either-or situation.


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PostPosted: 29 Apr 2012 06:53 
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we are still far away from having fancy offices

the reason I mentioned this was


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At the end of the day, the taxpayer is down by thousands of crores while the DRDO carries on constructing five star facilities for itself from the funds meant for such projects. See the new DRDO office near South Block and compare it with its poor cousin, Sena Bhavan, or its below-poverty-line hutments housing EME personnel. They are the ones who initially designed the Arjun MBT as an uprated version and successor to the Vijayanta MBT.



from http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORC ... abled.html

anyway off topic


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PostPosted: 29 Apr 2012 09:15 
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PostPosted: 29 Apr 2012 23:03 
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Surya, with due respect, what Kaul is saying in that case is pure hogwash and typical of how the civilian MOD-Army mistrust ire is directed at the most frivolous of issues and against the DRDO etc.

The DRDO has to have a minimum level of capex even on decent looking infra for two reasons - one, every org has a dog & pony show infra set up for foreign dignitaries to visit etc when trying to present India as a decent alternative to jointly work on research projects on, the usual "simple living high thinking" stuff, falls flat there. This is something most Indian companies have realized.

Second, the young joinees in DRDO expect a minimum work environment, with decent new infrastructure and workplace environs. They will otherwise benchmark against Infy etc and leave - "no money and even the place sucks" etc. For GOI institutions, retaining and hiring experienced or even good young talent with high expectations, is a constant challenge. Kaul is also clearly ignoring how glitzy many of the Army's own places are - spanking clubs, halls, with all sorts of traditions maintained which cannot be afforded by the up and coming clubs with huge membership fees. The reason nobody picks on them is because they play an invaluable role in maintaining esprit de corps. Similarly, I have been to several "service institutions" in India over the past decade, as would have many here - they make the facilities earlier at DRDO or the DPSU "halls", pale in comparison.

Basically, DRDO etc need to spend on such infrastructure - both at the HQ and lab level. Making do with the usual chalta hain, leaking walls, 1970's era building with another layer of "choona" applied, will not do.

The other thing is how Kaul totally misidentifies what is happening with investments and ties it to frivolous grounds. DRDO is not going to come out and say how much it spent on acquiring an engine tech or a widget - it obviously cannot. So in turn, even otherwise informed gents use the spending on things like a new HQ to imply those funds are being diverted here! Which is not the case, and second, even the former spending is often criticized.

I have often heard from otherwise senior, personnel as to why DRDO or any research firm needs money - "isnt their salary sufficient", often said with the implication that the money is being therefore misspent.

The problem is these gents - like many other, otherwise very competent service officers, have little understanding of how expensive even basic infrastructure is when it comes to development, and the amounts required when the sophistication scales up.

I once mentioned how much a company usually invests in a state of the art fab to give these guys an idea of how underinvested the Indian hitech sector was, and they were shocked. "They have so many Phd's, what is the use" - cue laughter. Ask the Phd, and he'll say he is waiting for his application to a pvt job come through - better money, and at least, he has the tools for his job. In GOI, his application for basic stuff has been pending with xyz for years. Things are better now in the funding side, but this misapprehension amongst the users quite clearly persists.

The problem is the Armed forces in India have so long been in user mode, with limited involvement as project managers (only the Navy extending its reach into production on a constant basis) that they neither track or monitor amount of investment required to conduct basic research on systems of systems platforms - eg a tank, let alone developing and making its systems as well, or the challenges faced when trying to source the hardware, which in almost all cases, is run by a cartel. To break the cartel, you have to either pay through your nose (which we don't do), strike political deals constantly (which we have only sometimes done) or hugely invest locally (which we don't do and when we do, it leads to carping like the above).

The amount invested in even basic production infrastructure in specific sectors can run upto a pretty penny, which is where it is particularly hilarious to even see the "indigenous" versus "reinvent the wheel" attacks that are often made on Indian programs. So, if you source components from the international market to keep costs low, and keep development times reasonable - the product is not indigenous (but somehow products like the T-90 always escape criticism versus ones like the Arjun), but if you do develop it, and on a shoestring budget and not given on time (then the obvious delays are because of reinventing the wheel and because xyz is wasteful, stupid, treasonous).

The magic words "accountability", "project management" apparently can overcome any and every challenge, including the fact that we start programs where systems are required (thanks to user requirements based on adversary threat perception) that we don't even know what we don't know.

At the same time, virulent criticism is heaped on these local programs by the users themselves, even without judging the product itself. Take a look at Aroors blog - a protege of Gupta, he was behind those virulent attacks on DRDO and still maintains a snide line against any local program - commenting anon on his blog (his trademark words and phrases make it easy to discern) and who retweets Saraswat's comment on the local BMD being similar to the Patriot3 with a comment from his "army friend" - "so it must mean that it is not very good then".

Unfortunately, the people most hurt by these are not just the developers themselves, but those who get deputed to these organizations, who are already a bit worried often about their career progression (since once outside the traditional command path, now they "belong" to the new agency in practicality) and then also have to deal with such constant snide comments from their peers. This also in turn plays a role when the agency goes looking for talent - fewer armed forces guys will then take up such roles and also fewer young graduates will go to these orgs.

The seniors within the services really need to cut down on such activities, set an example & point out what maintaining such a disaffected, non unified front does.

About the only plus I see in recent years, is the IAF-IA spat, which was becoming more and more nasty and overt seems to have taken a fall (for the better). Otherwise, every other year we'd see one rtd IA guy attacking the AF for not helping out in 62 and not being good enough at Kargil, whereas his IAF counterpart would write back a testy letter and the Pakistanis and Chinese trolls would make hay.

All said and done, things are much better today, than yesteryears. The average officer (and even jawan) coming into service is more tech savvy; he can understand more things about development and even make the transition into R&D, the developers for their part dont sit in ivory towers and actively canvass the users opinions. But things would be ideal when these guys actually sat down and understood the amounts spent in the Scorpene or Gorshkov versus what we spend locally and saw the ROI.

Sorry to use your post for this long-ish ramble, but just had to say that out..:)


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PostPosted: 30 Apr 2012 13:33 
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I did a webcrawl for Indian military HD videos.

Indian Air Force inducting Mi-17 V-5 helicopters

Indian Army Dhruv Helicopters in Action (This seems to be Army Day rehearsal.)

Is Mr. Antony a SPG protectee? I see a couple of guys in suits providing him security in the first video.


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PostPosted: 03 May 2012 03:46 
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Has this documentary been posted here before? It has interviews of many senior people involved. Good re-creation of events.



Watch in HD!


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PostPosted: 03 May 2012 22:10 
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Nikhil T wrote:
WALK the talk with DRDO Chief


EDIT: First shots of the inside of the new DRDO HQ in Delhi. Very impressive.

did you notice the way the interviewer was trying to push his agenda on Tatra trucks, even our great scientist fell for that trick.


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PostPosted: 04 May 2012 01:13 
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Chetak Helicopters Battle Drill by Indian Army
Extreme Low Fly Pass Cheetah Helicopter


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PostPosted: 04 May 2012 07:49 
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Very dumb reporting but nice video थार में सेना का 'शूरवीर' युद्धाभ्यास


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PostPosted: 04 May 2012 23:12 
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I am trying to compile videos/picture for all logistical/engineering support vehicles in the IA/IN/IAF. I have been successful in finding a few. There are some I am unable to find. Can you please email me any pictures or video links you might have saved.

I will post here if I need any specifics. As of now I need the Sarvatra system video.

apunka gheemale hai - nikhilzmail hat gheemale dhoti kaam.


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PostPosted: 07 May 2012 23:02 
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Para SF practices a form of Filipino martial arts called "Pekiti Tirsia Kali". Here is an absolutely awesome video demonstrating moves of PTK. Its worth noting that the person in this video also acts a consultant instructor to Para SF. So, a must watch.



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PostPosted: 10 May 2012 10:03 
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Misleading tittle but good shots of Prithvi, Su-30MKI and the Hind attack helis.



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PostPosted: 20 May 2012 13:58 
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PostPosted: 20 May 2012 14:31 
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^^The uploader of that video has editing skills that i only wish I had


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Shivji, but for your recommendation, I was going to avoid that video. I ended up downloading it :)

The sound level has to be lower to really enjoy it.

Also did you notice how Su-30MKI looks much more menacing then even the T-50, as both jump up to the camera level.


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