Bharat Rakshak

Weren't the MARCOS first on the scene until the NSG arrived. Were there any MARCOS casualties?

No KIA - a couple WIA.

An Indian policeman stands guard near a damaged Border Security Force (BSF) vehicle after a grenade blast in Srinagar October, 6 2009. Two Border Security Force soldiers were wounded and their vehicle was damaged when suspected militants lobed a hand grenade on BSF vehicle in Srinagar on Tuesday, police said.

http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/web1/09nov13/news.htm#2

After we arrest these pigs, how long do we keep them in jail? Is there a process to flush them out of the system?

The Indian Army [ Images ] on Saturday killed five terrorists, foiling an infiltration bid on the Line of Control in the Uri sector of north Kashmir's Baramulla district.

A defence spokesman in Srinagar said alert troops noticed movement along the LoC in the afternoon in the Kalapahar area of the Uri sector and challenged the infiltrators.

"The terrorists opened fire at the troops, which was returned, resulting in an encounter that is still on and so far bodies of five terrorists have been recovered," Lt Col JS Brar said.

Militants re-activate old training camps

By Sanjeev Pargal

JAMMU, Nov 5: Unable to send the newly recruited youths across the Line of Control (LoC) for arms training, the militant outfits especially Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) and Hizbul Mujahideen were reported to have activated their training camps in upper reaches and forest areas of Doda, Reasi and Rajouri belts.

The information has come from some of the recently arrested militants and Over Ground Workers (OGWs) in Doda belt comprising Doda, Kishtwar and Ramban districts, Udhampur and Reasi districts and twin border districts of Poonch and Rajouri.

According to Intelligence inputs, the militant outfits including the LeT and HM have managed to lure nearly 50 youths in militancy infested districts of Jammu region into their ranks during past few months. The fresh recruits have been kept in the dhoks abandoned by shepherds with the onset of winter in upper reaches.

The inputs revealed that the militants did make a couple of attempts to take fresh recruits to Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) from Poonch and Rajouri sectors but didn’t succeed due to fencing and alertness of security forces.

The militant commanders, on whose disposal the fresh recruits have been kept, now have been advised by their mentors from across the LoC to provide training in handling of sophisticated weapons and explosive devices to new recruits by reviving the training camps in Pir Panjal range and upper reaches, which were used quite a long back but had been de-activated for the past few years.

A series of messages of militant commanders of LeT and HM, intercepted by security agencies and police, have revealed that the ultras were facing massive shortage of manpower in view of virtual negligible infiltration from LoC in Rajouri and Poonch districts this year. However, few militants were diverted to Doda and Reasi belts by the LeT and HM commanders from Shopian and Anantnag areas of the Kashmir valley to compensate for the losses suffered by two outfits during last few months.

During about five to six months, 20 militants have been killed alone in Mahore-Gulabgarh belt of Reasi district, majority of whom were commanders, while 30 ultras were eliminated in three districts of Doda belt.

A militant Talib Hussain, who was recently arrested by police in Mahore area of Reasi district, is also reported to have undergone training in one of the recently revived training camp at JG Marg on Mahore-Shopian border. Talib has disclosed that he was taken to the training camp by his cousin Mohammad Rafiq alias ‘Niman’ and was given training by two Pakistani militants Abu Abdullah alias Mussafir and Abu Jindal.

Talib said four to five more militants were getting training in the same camp.

According to Intelligence reports, more such training camps have been activated by the militants in upper reaches of Doda, Kishtwar and Ramban districts to train few local militants who have been won over by the OGWs of the two outfits.

The militants, however, continued to face acute shortage of weaponry as fresh group of militants have been unable to infiltrate from the LoC.

Police sources, meanwhile, said security forces and police were already carrying out searches in remote and upper areas of all militancy infested districts to detect the training camps. But, according to sources, the militant commanders used the camps only for few days and abandon them quickly to shift to other areas to avoid their detection by security forces.

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The main reason on which the SF gets to get shot down badly, is the belief, that, the SF-type tasks can be carried out even by regular infantry-like troops, hence the need for the SF is really not escapable. In this context Op Zebra is very relative example. It was undertaken by 19 Assam Rifles; a para-military unit, that I had the honour to successfully command in an active Counter Insurgency scenario, in Mizoram. This operation is still a case study in India’s Counter-Insurgency & Jungle Warfare School (CIJW) School. It is an excellent example of the unorthodox special mission. It shows abundantly, as to how even highly motivated regular troops/ soldiers of a para-military force, can be pressed into service to execute a difficult but pressing assignment. These boys displayed an extraordinary sense of initiative, resourcefulness, doggedness, and plain common sense to hound out and liquidate noted self-styled MNF military commanders (read “Pu Sanglaina’s Zebra’s” on www.itgo.com ). This small band of six intrepid pseudo Self Styled-‘MNF couriers’, but actually head-hunters, bagged one Kirti Chakra, two Shaurya Chakras and several commendations from the Army Chief and DG AR for this daring enterprise of theirs !

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The Writer Lt. Col A.K. ‘Sam’ Sharma is an alumnus of the National Defence Academy, Kharakvasla. Col Sharma was commissioned into the 3rd Gorkha Rifles of the Indian Army in Februray 1964, He retired in 1997 after serving for 33 years. A graduate of the Defence Services Staff College, Wellington, he holds a MSc Degree in Defence Studies from the Madras University. This officer has been on the instructional staff of two of Indian Army’s premiere training institutes: the College of Combat; now known as the War College; (Directing Staff Junior Command Wing-1972-1975) and the Infantry School ( Senior Instructor, Platoon Commander’s Wing—1984-87) both located in Mhow (MP); where he taught tactics at the unit and sub-unit levels to students, some of who were from friendly foreign armies. He has also served at the Indian Military Academy, Dehradun

Spy planes in Maoist fight --- Field trials begin in Jharkhand and Chhattisgarh
http://telegraphindia.com/1091115/jsp/f ... 743166.jsp

Spy planes in Maoist fight --- Field trials begin in Jharkhand and Chhattisgarh
http://telegraphindia.com/1091115/jsp/f ... 743166.jsp

How much could Nishant be helpful in Forest covered regions, is there a capability on any platform to do something like that ?

Security forces recover Chinese arms from Naxals, militants
16 Nov 2009, 1717 hrs IST, PTI

NEW DELHI: Security forces have seized 200 Chinese small arms from Naxal, militant and insurgent groups operating in the country strengthening the
government's point of view that arms from that country were being used by Left wing extremists.

Out of the 164 arms seized last year and 182 such recoveries in 2007, security forces have recovered at least 200 Chinese-made pistols, revolvers and mousers, an official data of central security forces said.

Arms from Pakistan, South Africa and Israel have also been recovered.

According to the official data, 87 Chinese-made revolvers were recovered in Jammu and Kashmir by security forces during the last year.

In the North-East, the forces recovered 113 arms in 2008 while 118 such seizures were made in 2007 which include Chinese pistols, Belgian-made gas guns and US-made carbines.

Naxals are using foreign country-made arms, especially from China and the US, frequently, the report states.

Maoist groups in Bihar, Jharkhand and Andhra Pradesh are using more foreign small arms, including from China, as compared to states like West Bengal, Uttar Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh where they use more of local arms, it says.

The report (which report?) also states that Russian-made AK series guns are most popular among the Maoists. 92 AK-47's, 18 AK-56, Pakistan-made Pica guns and Israeli sniper guns have been recovered by security forces during the last year, it says.

BSF DIG killed in IED blast triggered by militants

Express news service Posted online: Monday , Nov 16, 2009 at 1647 hrs

Jammu : A top Border Security Force official of the rank of deputy inspector general was killed, while some other persons of his security squad including the driver were injured in an IED blast triggered by militants on Indo-Pak International Border in Ramgarh sector of Samba border district in Jammu region on Monday morning.
Incidentally, the spot where the IED blast occurred, had also witnessed shelling from Pakistan side in the wee hours on Monday, official sources said.

A BSF spokesman said that the firing had occurred on at around 2.00 am, wherein the intense firing from the Pakistan soil had taken place for over half an hour.

However, the firing had fallen silent after half an hour, the BSF spokesman said adding that a search operation had been undertaken by the BSF troops in the wee hours to carry out a combing operation to look for possibility of any militant having infiltrated taking cover of the wee-hour firing.

Later in the morning, the senior BSF official DIG O P Tanwar went to the firing spot in Ramgarh sector, wherein his vehicle came under the impact of an IED near the fence.

Top BSF officials and police officials have rushed to the spot to make an on spot assessment.

BSF to protest with Pak Rangers after DIG killed in IED blast

The BSF will lodge a protest with Pakistan Rangers at a flag meet after a DIG of the force was killed in the blast triggered by militants near the Indo-Pak border in Samba sector.

"A flag meeting will be held with Pakistan Rangers where a protest will be lodged," a senior BSF officer at the force headquarters here said.

52-year-old DIG O P Tanwar had gone to the area to conduct a combing operation this morning after the post came under fire from across the border since last night.

During the combing operation, a blast took place, killing Tanwar and leaving two others badly injured.

Two soldiers, two militants killed in J-K gunbattles
Agencies Posted online: Monday , Nov 16, 2009 at 1547 hrs
Srinagar : Two soldiers and as many militants were killed in two separate gunbattles as army foiled an infiltration bid, second within the past three days, along the LoC in the Kashmir valley, officials said on Monday.
Two jawans and a heavily-armed militant were killed in a gunbattle near the LoC in Keran sector, 167 kms from Srinagar, in North Kashmir's Kupwara district, Army Spokesman Lt Col J S Brar said in Srinagar.

He said the gunbattle took place on Sunday night when the troops confronted a group of militants attempting to sneak into the valley from across the border.

The operation in the area is still continuing and further details are awaited, the spokesman said.

This is the second infiltration bid scuttled by troops along the LoC in North Kashmir. On Saturday, troops shot dead five militants while they were attempting to cross into Uri Sector of Baramulla district.

In another operation, a hardcore militant of Hizbul Mujahideen identified as Abdul Rehman Gursi was killed at village Sangerwani, 40 kms from here, in Pulwama district of South Kashmir on Monday, a police spokesman said.

The militant, hiding in a house, was killed when he refused to surrender and opened fire on a joint search party of police and security forces, he said, adding the house was damaged during the gunbattle which lasted several hours.

A search is on to nab his other associates, the spokesman added

with respect to the watch tower, is it too much to have rovers and infrared/thermal/day/night sight with automated weapons firing instead of utilizing boots on the ground...

technology is the answer!

Obviously you did not get the sarcasm.

Automated measures that you describe, even if technically feasible are not going to solve the insurgency. Security is provided by soldiers - not machines and weapons. A much simpler solution would be to simply mine the whole area, but is that the 'proper' way? Can these automated weapons arrest or capture the infiltrators etc?

know that there are something that require eyes on the ground while others that require boots on the ground, but in this case, I think a steel pillar watch tower with the above early warning equipments would save the life of the guy manning the post

Craig

Can you post a link to the ROE of the Indian Army which you keep bringing up??

NATO - ROE
The most widespread and most accepted rules of engagement (ROE) exist within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and are generally designed as operational rules for commanders of battalion-level and larger forces and Commanding Officers of warships. In times of rising numbers of terrorist attacks and piracy, both defined as "outside of declared-war situations," the ROEs gain ever greater importance to the various forces opposing them.

British Military ROE
The British Ministry of Defence officially defines ROE as:

"Directives issued by competent military authority which delineate the circumstances and limitations under which UK forces will initiate and/or continue combat engagement with other forces encountered." [1]
The ROE deal with four issues:

When military force may be used,
Where military force may be used,
Against whom force should be used in the circumstances described above, and
How military force should be used to achieve the desired ends.
The ROE take two forms: Actions a military commander may take without consulting a higher authority, unless explicitly forbidden (sometimes called 'command by negation') and second, actions that may only be taken if explicitly ordered by a higher authority (sometimes called 'positive command'). Also, in the event that there is a clear and present danger.

In addition to a typically large set of standing orders, military personnel will be given additional rules of engagement before performing any mission or military operation. These can cover circumstances such as how to retaliate after an attack, how to treat captured targets, which territories the soldier is bound to fight into, and how the force should be used during the operation.

The ROE are extremely important:

They provide a consistent, understandable and repeatable standard on how forces act. Typically they are carefully thought out in detail well in advance of an engagement and may cover a number of scenarios, with different rules for each.
They assist in the synchronization of political-diplomatic and military components of a strategy by allowing political commanders to better understand, forecast and tailor the actions of a force.
The first rule of engagement for British Armed Forces is always the right to use force in self-defence.

The jawans make up the team that mans four bunkers inside the hotel. Forced to adapt the monument for use as living quarters, they have covered the arches with plastic sheets to keep out the rain and have driven nails into the walls to hang clotheslines. Uniforms, boxer shorts and vests are strung along one wall, framed by a black plastic curtain that covers an arch.

SRPF make Gateway of India home

SERIOUSLY??? yeah hai Mumbai meri jaan.. AAMCHI MUMBAI

hahahahaha!!!!
So what? The chinese don't brush their teeth and their SS look like fools on segway clones!

Sab chalta hai....take it easy yaar! we are like this only

Pink Panther strikes

R Jagannathan
Thursday, November 19, 2009 1:01 IST

If there is any chance that terrorism will ultimately be defeated in India, we can safely rule out effective policing and good intelligence as being the reasons for it. Exhibit A is the incompetence with which the Headley-Rana investigations are being handled. It has all the hallmarks of Inspector Jacques Clouseau of Pink Panther fame. A bumbling, fictional French detective, Clouseau survives through sheer luck and incompetence even while his enemies trip.

This has been our story, too. The latest one began with a case being registered by the US Federal Bureau of Investigation in Chicago against David Coleman Headley (aka Daood Gilani) and Tahawwur Hussain Rana, who were apparently plotting incendiary stuff in India. A few strategic leaks later, India' s panthers are all over the place, looking under dungheaps and turning over anthills in the hope that something will turn up. .......................

There is only one reason for our failure to get anywhere with our terror investigations: we are taking short-cuts all the time. Whenever there is public pressure to deliver results, our politicians expect out sleuths to come up with answers instantly -- and they do. The answers are usually dubious, if not downright misleading, but our cops have learnt the hard way that shoddy work will be forgiven as public memory is short. But there is a heavy price to be paid for making politicians appear like they can't deliver.

The police deliver what the politicians want. If there is a public outcry against a terror act, they will generate arrests and float conspiracy theories. If the heat gets worse, they sometimes deliver dead bodies in encounters. What we don't ever seem to get is a professional investigation, with all the loose ends tied and resulting in convictions. One is hard put to find any success after the 1993 blasts which ended in lots of convictions almost 15 years after the event. We might also manage to convict Kasab, thanks to the individual heroism of a lathi-wielding Omble and the good fortune we had in capturing Kasab's antics on camera. ..................................

Sab chalta hai....take it easy yaar! we are like this only

A little more than 12 hours after TOI reported how SRPF jawans—meant to protect the Taj, which bore the brunt of the 26/11 assault on Mumbai—had been given the Gateway of India as accommodation, cops from Colaba police station moved in and threw the jawans out. Their belongings, too, were thrown onto the sidewalk and the jawans were told to spend the night on the road till alternative arrangements could be made.
Squatting on the bare pavement to eat dinner around 9.30 pm, the jawans painted a sorry picture of a system seeking fig-leaf cover for its negligence. "Was it our fault that we had been given the Gateway to live in? We also know that it is an important heritage structure and one of Mumbai’s iconic buildings," an enraged jawan said. "We never wanted to stay here in the first place but shouldn’t we have been given alternative accommodation before being thrown out like this? Is this what we get for serving the country?" he asked.

The jawans also alleged that they had been made to provide security for a private film shooting earlier in the day, which was being done by a senior official’s daughter.

Going by your ignorance and snotty stance I wouldn't be too surprised if another 26/11 sprung up and you'd still say "dus, pandra jawan shahid ho gayee..ek do mahinee unko hero ka status do, thode paise doo, govt main naukri aur gas station dilwa doo aur uske baad sab normal.. Sab chalta hain.. YEH HAI MUMBAI MERI JAAN"
Incase you need to be reminded 175 INNOCENT PEOPLE died that day for what??? becoz the govt was sitting on it's ass and neglecting the first responders with the same mentatility as yours?? GROW UP ! lives are at stake..You can't take matters of national security lying down..

Cease-fire violation to push infiltrators

Excelsior Correspondent

JAMMU, Nov 20: Pakistan Army today again resorted to cease-fire violation firing indiscriminately on Indian positions between Dadote and Kanga Gali in Balakote sector of Mendhar tehsil in Poonch district tonight, apparently in a bid to push infiltrators into the Indian territory. In two separate incidents, a Special Police Officer (SPO) was seriously injured in a grenade attack by two militants at a CRPF bunker in Kishtwar town this evening while a powerful IED was defused on Rajouri-Thanna Mandi road.

Official sources said Pakistan army resorted to heavy firing on Indian positions between Dadote and Kangal Gali from 7.30 pm to 8.15 pm. This was followed by small arms firing for about another half an hour after which the firing stopped.

Sources said the cease-fire violation by Pakistan army was aimed at facilitating an infiltration attempt by the trained militants from Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) into Indian side. However, the intrusion bid appeared to have been foiled due to alertness maintained by the troops all along the LoC in twin border districts of Poonch and Rajouri.

There were no trace of infiltration attempt, sources said, adding searches would be conducted in the area early tomorrow morning.

Troops of 7 Raj Rifles and 13 Dogra, deployed between Dadote and Kanga Gali didn’t retaliate to maintain cease-fire. However, they kept a strict vigil on the LoC to ensure that the militants didn’t manage to infiltrate.

SSP Poonch Manmohan Singh said a high degree of alert is being maintained on the LoC. Police has also been put on alert in interior areas to keep a vigil on any suspicious movement, he added.

As reported, there were specific inputs that a number of militants have been stationed by Pakistan Army and ISI at the launching pads on both LoC and IB to push them into this side.

Meanwhile, two militants threw a grenade at a CRPF bunker at Gadyali Chowk in Kishtwar town at 7.25 pm today. The grenade hit an electric pole and exploded mid air above the CRPF bunker causing serious injuries to a Special Police Officer (SPO), who was working as a guide with the para-military force.

Injured SPO was rushed to District Hospital, Kishtwar from where he was being shifted to GMC Jammu. He had sustained a deep wound on his eye.

Police and para-military personnel cordoned off Gadyali Chowk and launched a search operation for two militants responsible for throwing a HE 36 grenade on the CRPF personnel. However, no arrest has been made so far.

Injured SPO has been identified as Mohinder Singh son of Shiv Nath R/o Shasti, Paddar.

Army and police detected a powerful five kg IED, planted by the militants at Bawli on Rajouri-Thanna Mandi road early this morning during patrolling in the area.

The IED was later defused by a Bomb Disposal Squad.

Traffic on the road remained suspended for more than three hours till the road was sanitised by the security forces.

The Week has 26/11 as cover story. Covers many interviews. In one of the articles it is claimed that MARCOs hesitated to pursue and contain the terrorists inside TAJ because they were 'trained for offshore operations and not land operations'.

............... If the MARCOS hadnt contained the piglets, you would have seen death toll increased by the 100s in Taj itself - this is from an account of someone who was there when the op started.

Troops of 7 Raj Rifles and 13 Dogra, deployed between Dadote and Kanga Gali didn’t retaliate to maintain cease-fire. However, they kept a strict vigil on the LoC to ensure that the militants didn’t manage to infiltrate.

Naming some of the seniors, Hasan, in an interview published in The Week magazine just days ahead of the first anniversary of the attacks, said, "I told you there were a handful. For example, K L Prasad refused to come to the Trident and decided against hitting the roads. Deven Bharti, K Venkatesham and Parambhir Singh did not appear keen on responding to the situation as it kept dawning on us." Prasad was then the Joint Commissioner of Police (Law and Order) while Bharti was the Additional Commissioner of Police (Crime). Venkatesham was the Additional Commissioner of Police (South Region) and Singh was the Additional Commissioner of Police (Anti-Terrorism Squad).

On November 28, I attended a meeting with the DGP and Home Minister. I was told to withdraw the NSG and instead use the Mumbai police for the ongoing operations. "The DGP told me that the entire world was watching us and so we should put an immediate end to the siege and help defuse the crisis. This sounded ridiculous, as the NSG is an elite force that can tackle such crisis situation. I said it was even preposterous to even think of taking off the NSG," Gafoor said.