Bharat Rakshak

yes. they seem to have round front portion and cover for pylons where the dummy rocker pods are attached.

Sir, Thank you for posting the pics

@Kakarat - Yes the wings have changed.
@adityadange- Well you meant an in-flight refueling probe! -its not a new concept really and several types of Western helicopters, especially special-ops dedicated variants already have them to increase their range. They usually refuel from turbo-prop tankers.

thanks a lot for the pics.

won't the airspeed probe obstruct a little of the sensor ball's FOV ? or is that considered acceptable since it is in the upper hemisphere (as far as I could gather) ?

@ Rahul M - welcome! will help if you enable my option to post pics directly on the site!
The airspeed probe is a temporary fitment for flight instrumentation. It will be removed after the airspeed probes are calibrated.

sorry sir, the current forum SW does not have that option. the way you did it is pretty much the to do it.

thanks for the reply, what is/are the immediate milestone(s) LCH team is looking at, if you don't mind sharing ?

Well, there are quite a few changes in the offing - some of which will be pretty visible soon - we will be posting the pics - when we manage to get some good ones.
The project milestones - we will definitely talk about those when we meet up!

Hari saab, a hypothetical question, isn't an active protection system (APS) helpful on LCH? the rocket pods seem to be suited for holding APS projectiles as well with MAWS fitted on LCH used to cue them?

Navy was working with Israelis on an unmanned version of Dhruv, this Israeli cooperation might enable adapt the Trophy APS for Helis?

wings seems to be inspired from Hind , just my observation

noob pooch : Wouldn't placing the EO ball on the front of the nose give more coverage of ground than the present arrangement of fixing it on the top.

Doesn't BR have a photo upload area like that setup from time to time for Aero India photos from members?

First off, Thanks a load for sharing the pics of the LCH and ALH.. Its good to see the program progress..

This does it.. Time for the next BR Meet in Bangalore.. Its been a year since the last meet in any case.. Rahulda any chance you'll be dropping by???

not in the immediate future, I will have to depend on sitreps from you guys.

srai, that's for the mainsite. on the forum you will still have to go through the same procedure as exists now.

Yes, should have one soon.

I think one of our LCH people told us the reasoning for that. At the normal height at which the Rudra will operate, there is no difference if the Gimball is above or below the nose. Above gives more stability as I remember. Knowledgeable people please correct me.

is Equador still operating Dhruv? There was news about Turkey buying the same choppers but no ifo available now on the net if the deal was realized.

as i know turkey has good relations with pakistan. in such case will GOI permit sale Dhruv to them?

I knew it!!!

On 13th Morning, heard a buzz and rushed to the balcony. It was quite far off and could not identify visually, so quickly came back with camera. Took a Few snaps in full auto with the max zoom but after that went to 'lyad' mode, as usual. Today when checked, I see these









sorry for the "chinese" quality of them though, wish had one of those 'bazooka' lens

this is LCH TD2....

good job picklu. get a good lens for pujo instead of the customary shirts.

The LCH - climbing above 6000 m - a view in the cockpit

That is an impressive 20,000 feet.

If that is not a warning to those jokers who might be planning a rehash of kargil...... I dunno what is.

Hold your horses losers ... its on its way

great shot !!

@Shiv - The shot was whilst climbing beyond 6000m - and as you said - it is rather impressive!
@Rahul - Thanks!

sorry guys

where are the pics??

Sir, any insights on the fire-power mix carried by LCH at such extreme heights ??
Btw, an awesome shot, sir!

thanks krishg

strange I cannot see the link in Hari's post

Nice! 6000 meters is awesome. Would we be able to do the same in a fully loaded lch ?

At 20,000 ft> AGL or pressure altitude, depending on outside air temperature, icing is a probable variable that the LCH design team will have to consider, for sustained operations.

Aksai Chin is 5000 meters.

the term "lyad" indicates Piklu is a bong just like me..!!

Interestingly WikiBaba lists the service ceiling of "The Beast" at 6500m. I am sure it would not be possible to take it to 6000m "Fully Loaded", but should be able to reach there with a "useful" combat load.

hnair...you rock \m/

Sorry bangalore gurus I am no longer live in Bangalore to host it. Last time it was fun. Let me know when you are hosting. Will come to meet you all. By the way I am in TN now if there is any meet in Chennai I can travel and attend.

What about the rest of the Tibetan plateau


The Himalayan-Tibetan orogen was created by the Indo-Asian collision over the past 70-50 Ma. Significant crustal shortening (at least 1400 km) which leads to eventual construction of the Cenozoic Tibet Plateau, began more or less synchronously in the Eocene (50-40 Ma) (figure 1). The orogen, which is the youngest and most spectacular active continent collisional belt on Earth, has long been known as the golden key to the global orogenic mechanism, and the natural laboratory for continental dynamics theory.
Tibet is the largest, highest and flattest plateau in Earth with an average elevation exceeding 5000 m. It is bound by the deserts of the Tarim and Qaidam Basins to the north, the Himalayan, Karakoram, and Pamir mountain chains to its south and west but its eastern margin is more diffuse (figure 2). The Tibetan plateau was uplifted more than 4 km and the crust under the central part of it has thickened up to 70 km (double the thickness of most continental crust). Although several models have tried to explain how such topography formed, we still have much to learn.

10,000ft is claimed as the avg height of tibet plateau...same as Ladakh plain areas like Leh.

Tiger HAD testing... Maybe future variants of LCH Could incorporate some of the features present uptop! Wishful thinking, but depending on how much weight is shredded in the current LCH, it is very doable!

Well I can see a hideous orange thing sitting right in front of the front cockpit blinding the chap there and humongous ugly tourist windows, no electro optical sensor and a radar that can only see front and sides and a stupid looking floppy used condom like thing hanging off the gun. I hope none of those is going to get incorporated. Wiki says the service ceiling is 4000 meters. Enough to go and crash into the side of a Himalayan mountain

This is great! I actually laughed out loud.

Those orange things are cameras for testing. And that 'condom' is some ground crew being lazy with his jacket. However, it goes without saying that I love our LCH much more