Bharat Rakshak

Well if it serves the purpose, why not keep using them? Age of the technology has nothing to do with its utility. Even TFTA Khans with a defence budget larger than the rest of the world's put together use Vietnam era and Korean War era aircraft.

Then you should have said that instead of taking potshots at other services. The Cheetah/Chetak are indeed in a bad shape. The GPS on most phone are more accurate and sensitive than the hand held stuff they lug around. Hell look at a standard Mi-8 and see what equipment they have. Other services and arms like the Infantry also struggle with obsolence. None of this has anything to do with who's "forward looking", whatever the hell that means.

Ex-INS Vikrant Chief of Watch Station

The chap is responsible for engine room. Anything goes wrong, they catch him. Very interesting pic (IMO).

Anjan, thanks for the unsolicited lecture. What I meant by forward looking wrt the Navy is their attempt to maximize indigenous equipment and their synergizing with DRDO early on in many of these projects unlike the IA which gets many times the Navy's budget and uses it to buy stellar imports like the T-90. BTW your condescending and disrespectful tone is quite atypical for this forum, which I have visited since its inception. BRF is filled with many highly intelligent people. You do not seem to be one of them.

My OT reply here
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4290&p=1260587#p1260587

Ha! You don't seem to have problems with disrespect when you're the one dishing it out. Factually you're wrong with your potshots at other services. I pointed it out. Apparently that causes takleef. The other services try and indigenize as much as anyone else and get stuck with as much or more crappy equipment. The Indian Army you might have noticed is the largest and most enthusiastic customer of the HAL Dhruv and is ordering the Akash in numbers. Those potshots are deserving of contempt because you're apparently willing to sit on judgement on who gets new equipment on basis of petty, not to mention petulant, politics.

Anjan,

We have gone this path many times. It is a perception difference that Navy is forward looking and not Army, of which, I too believe.

As perception goes, Army is scaling up after VKS. Notwithstanding all that opinion on the new chief (in AFSPA, Siachin etc), IMO, he will be good for indigenisation in case he is more pally with Govt.

The Army's capital budget is not many times that of Navy. See this link on budget proposal for next FY...

http://www.sarkaritel.com/defence-budge ... odernising

http://www.business-standard.com/india/ ... ad/468125/

Can you get the data for previous 40 budgets and see?

Folks, gentle OT alert.

^^I do not want to waste time. You can see for your self. With 1.3 million strong force the army's capital budget allocation and spend is always going to be less than its revenue spend. The ratio(capital:revenue) is always going to be better for Air force(str 1,30,000) and Navy(str 60,000). No surprises there, because the bulk of revenue expenditure is due to pay and allowances.

Sorry for OT.

I am not contending the point that Army needs to move for greater indigenisation, but only that certain statements made in support of that argument are incorrect.

Anjan, one look at the T-90 vs Arjun sordid affair is enough to to tell you how much the IA supports local products. The Arjun is ut thru 50,000 km trials and the Tin can accepted without testing. How nmany hoops did Akash need to jump thru before being accepted? My last post on this.

IA seems to not support the local manufacturing efforts, but may be they are doing. If someone can compile areas where they have supported local manufacturing that will be a great insight.

self deleted.(moved to multi-media section)

keshav, this is the pictures thread, not video thread. use the multimedia thread for that. I will delete the above post tomorrow.

IA Tanks in Action

some old pictures. don't recollect them being posted here. apologies if done already

Indian Navy Warships in South Africa [Photographs]


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Chetak Helicopters of the Indian Navy in South Africa during IBSAMAR Naval Exercises [Photographs]


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INS Darshak, Indian Navy Vessel at the South African Navy Festival [Photographs]

linking the INS Darshak photographs to the original album, as there are no other pics in there. If you're unable to download the full-res images [1600px] from there, it can be done so at the blog

Spotted BMP urban survival kit

a Indian version of slate Armour

Yesterday, 98th birth anniversary of Field Marshal Sam Hormusji Framji Jamshedji Manekshaw, Military Cross was observed at ooty. Most pics sent are terrible.

Here is one from his meeting troops in 1971

Field Marshal SHFJ Manekshaw, Military Cross with troops after 1971 War

And a historic day will be today when a nook sub gets inducted. I am sure you must have seen this pic before
Charlie I:
INS Chakra Nuclear Submarine

Chacko Brother,

USS Carl Vinson will be active in Bay of Bengal in coming days. As you always seem to have the first-hand pictures, can you post some nice snaps of this giant here in this forum?

I'll try. Before that wait for the Chakra pics

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Embraer EMB 145I aircraft for DRDO AEW&C

Another large photo of Embraer EMB 145I A closeup.

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Vikrant-class Aircraft Carrier under construction in India [Photographs]

http://www.aame.in/2012/04/vikrant-clas ... under.html

Top deck and three other shown. There could be approx 11 - 12 decks on this carrier.

What is the significance of number of decks?

None. I had asked the IMS Vikrant chap how many decks were there. He gave a figure of 11 or 12, i don't remember exactly. Going by that number, I counted on this ship too. Just an observation.

if the gunner is looking into the sight (specially using the right eye) whouldnt it be hard for him to operate any switch that are placed to the left side as the face will cover the switches.

Looking at switch will be looking at gears while changing while driving a cars.

well that is correct but my question is if the switches are covered with face then gunner will definitely have problem operating them. maybe they train him to operate them with face only

it is unlikely that any of those switches will be needed for 'heat of the moment' operation

some more pictures of the INS Chakra
http://defenceexpress.blogspot.in/2012/ ... hakra.html

this photo captures the beauty like no other
http://defenceexpress.blogspot.in/2012/ ... nd-me.html

Which is the sight? That one- eye thing? Or the black thing that looks like it folds down and needs to be folded up so the gunner can put both eyes to the black rubber cup? That one eyed thing looks like a knob to me - not a sight.

Chacko that's a lousy pic. Don't mean to hurt but it is.

It is. I know. Tried my level best.