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RR Patil said, "Kasab's hanging is a tribute to all the 166 people killed as well as those police officer martyred in the attack."
There you go justice delivered, so now all the kissy kissy with Pakistan is kosher.
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I am more concerned about now what will happen to our Sarabjit who is in Pakistan.

"Don't deny repercussion on Sarabjit's mercy plea: Pak sources on Kasab hanging"
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/dont-deny-re ... 575-3.html

:) If I dare to say that this execution could have been delayed until Sarabjit's release, most people on this forum will jump on me.
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PM came to know about hanging through TV :shock:

If this is true then either he is not given any importance by his colleagues and gives credence to the belief that he is a lameduck. If he is not a lame duck, then I feel it is a serious issue. I agree PM should not be bothered about every scum who gets hanged however this was a rare case and he should have been in the loop.
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If Kasab is too bad for Indian muslims to offer him last rites, Dharmic india will offer him 6ft of land. He will get the punarjanma that is suitable to his karma.

Where the consciousness of Allah ends, Sivam (Mangalam/auspeciousness) starts.

Perhaps Kasab is the Pisacha that is required to wake up slumbering karma-bhoomi.

I wish Bharat wakes up and avoid the need for pisachas like Kasab!
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rkirankr wrote:
shiv wrote:Top 3 to be bumped off
Hafiz Saeed (loyal servant of the Pakistan army)
Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi
Dawood Ibrahim
Musharaff. For atrocities committed in Kargil under his command. Next time he comes for leadership summit or some such nonsense, he should be arrested and handed over to people in Lt. Saurabh Kalia's town/village
That bloody pig , called Musharraf , should be charged with war crimes and crime against humanity and ask londonistan for extradition of that Suar.
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Kersi D wrote:

"He was a hero and will inspire other fighters to follow his path," the commander of Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location.
Yes the Pakislamic Gadhazis who welcome death will be shown a path to the grave. :D
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rajanb wrote:Finally, some sort of closure for the victims of 26/11. Not only our citizens but also other nationalities who were innocent.
No Closure. Never till we get them all.
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Has to be one of the scariest news i have read in recent times!! :shock: :shock:
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sum wrote:
Has to be one of the scariest news i have read in recent times!! :shock: :shock:
Why is it scary? Was kasab that important? Does the PM have to know every time the law of the land is carried out? It is enough that he knows when it is not being carried out no?
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rkirankr wrote:PM came to know about hanging through TV :shock:

from this Rdiff commentary:
17:39 'The Kasab chapter may not be closed': "The idea was not just to kill those hundreds of people," historian Ramachandra Guha tells Rediff.com's Sheela Bhatt, "the idea was to provoke people against Muslims. It is really shocking that Pakistan is in denial about what happened in Mumbai."
The porkis wanted grren on green here too? And get Yindoos to do their job. @$$Holes
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shiv wrote: Why is it scary? Was kasab that important? Does the PM have to know every time the law of the land is carried out? It is enough that he knows when it is not being carried out no?
In a normal situation it is not required.

But somehow the same govt agencies felt the need to keep this whole process secretive as if some indians would not be happy to see Kasab hanged.

Unfortunately it is MMS who brought himself to lose sleep over small things likes Indian Muslims getting arrested anywhere in the world.
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punishment of a criminal is the home ministry's matter, nothing for the PM's office
he would have known that the president had rejected the plea
at some stage the cabinet would have discussed it and repurcussions and nodded their assent
the actual event need not be the PM's concern
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jamwal wrote:Kasab died of dengue. There was no hanging
Quite possible. I first wanted to see the body too as a confirmation. I was surprised at the suddenness. A government would not have carried out the sentence:
1) If the babus in some departments found value in keeping him alive - intelligence, strategy, diplomats ityadi.
2) If Politicians found value in keeping him alive - vote bank politics.

Keeping him alive for this long could be a combination or just one of the above.

However, irrespective of the cause of death; the following stand to lose:
1) If the babus kept him alive, then they lose. In turn the country, to some extent.
2) If the politicians kept him alive, then lose.

If the politicians are covering the death, then they have some win. Because, the general mood of the country was to met out justice, and by allowing natural/illness to cause death would have been seen as justice denied. It would have angered crores of aam junta.

Considering BJP or others have not shown competence to use such opportunities to communicate the flaws of UPA, I am not sure what the real benefit would be. Congress can still win or lose the election without this issue. However, by announcing the death was by hanging, the authorities & politicians have communicated to the people and the World, that India stands for justice with due processes. Diplomats, Ministers, NGOs, Businesses ityadi stand to benefit displaying this as a positive quality. They can differentiate India is not like Unkil or Israel that go dishum dishum at the drop of a hat. A huge talking point when it comes to OPEC and other Islamic countries, if Pakistan or others try to spin this as India vs Islam.

So even if this was a lie, I think the country derives benefits. And a handful of politician winning seats again is the cost we pay - which should never the case. But life is not fair. Added: If the Congress misuses this, and further defangs military and strategic capabilities, then it is a different problem altogether. A big can of worms. One CT at a time onlee :-)

ps: Of course there is the whole affair about orchestrating this lie. Could it be possible? A whistle blower or a leak later on would be disastrous to Congress. I do not know if it is easy or tough to pull such a lie in India.
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Sequence of events around Kasab death

a) MEA sends letter to Pakistan
b) Pakis think "yet another dossier" and trash it
c) India hangs Kasab
d) Pakis dont claim body. Demand more proof that Kasab is dead
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Lalmohan wrote:punishment of a criminal is the home ministry's matter, nothing for the PM's office
he would have known that the president had rejected the plea
at some stage the cabinet would have discussed it and repurcussions and nodded their assent
the actual event need not be the PM's concern
Kasab was not Auto Shankar, Billa & Ranga. Kasab was a national and international issue, one would not want HMO and PMO working independent of each other and keeping things in dark. My guess is that he would have known, the stakes being high politicians are playing for their party to win. It appears the Ministry of External Affairs was kept in the loop, how does one believe PMO was not kept in the loop. I would expect MMS to have been notified at least the night before. If MMS was truly not notified, man there are deeper fissures and problems.
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The politics behind the hanging of Kasab
The hanging of 26/11 terrorist Ajmal Kasab, successfully kept under wraps till he was executed, has given a leg up to a government which had come under attack for being weak and ineffectual.

In hindsight, there were signs that something could be afoot, when President Pranab Mukherjee dismissed his mercy petition and Kasab was shifted from Arthur Road Jail to Yerwada Jail in Pune, where there are facilities for hanging. But then this happened on the day of the funeral of Shiv Sena chief Bal Thackeray and the attention of the entire state/nation was riveted on it.

The cancellation of Pakistan Interior Minister Rehman Malik's India visit four days ago could have also aroused suspicion. Also External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid deferred his trip to Iran at the last moment. But no one got a whiff of what was being planned.

The army is known to be able to maintain secrecy over an operation but that a civilian authority could do it so successfully over what was christened as 'Operation X' has come as a surprise, particularly when the government had botched up on so many fronts of late.

The government seems to have chosen its timing with care. It goes without saying that with the Supreme Court having endorsed the hanging, and the President having rejected his mercy petition, the government had to move ahead with his hanging.

With the anniversary of 26/11 four days on, questions would naturally been asked why there was a delay. As it is, the government had come under criticism for the process having taken four years. But then, it was important for the country to demonstrate to the world that a free and fair trial had taken place and the judicial process had been fully followed, even though the whole world had seen on television what had happened on 26/11.

And yet, clearly the government's choice of timing was political, with a view to influencing the discourse in Parliament, which starts Thursday, with the opposition parties joining hands to insist on a discussion, with a vote, on FDI in multi-brand retail.

A vote could embarrass the government hugely, particularly with its supporter the Samajwadi Party and ally Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam coming out against it. The Congress will try hard to avoid it at all costs. Kasab could overshadow FDI for a couple of days. But the objective was to send a clear message that the government was now on top of the situation.

Some Congress leaders hope it would yield the party a dividend in the ongoing Gujarat elections, and counter the charge of inaction on the hanging of Parliament attacker Afzal Guru. Narendra Modi lost no time in asking that question, as he tried to dilute the impact of the way the government handled Operation X. Afzal Guru is going to be a theme he can be expected to pursue in the coming weeks and months to put the ruling Congress on the mat.

But then President Mukherjee, unlike his predecessor, appears to be moving with dispatch and is learnt to have sent a dozen names -- and Afzal Guru's name seems to be part of that list -- to the Home Ministry for its comments. Senior Congress leader Digvijaya Singh also called for the hanging of Afzal Guru on Wednesday. This will give the Congress enough of a talking point in the Gujarat campaign, irrespective of the way politics around Kasab and Afzal Guru pan out in the days and weeks to come.

It was not surprising that many Congress leaders were all too willing to face the cameras on Wednesday, be it Maharashtra Home Minister RR Patil, who called a press conference as early as 8.30 am to announce the hanging, or Maharashtra Chief Minister Prithviraj Chavan or the usually reticent Union Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde or Law Minister Salman Khurshid.

For the moment, the mood of the country has undergone a subtle shift -- and this was evident on the social media -- and the government is looking that much more confident. Repeatedly flayed for its paralysis, today many are beginning to say, "At last the government has acted."

When it faces Parliament on Thursday, it may not be on the backfoot that it has been for over two years.
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Somewhere I think of the possibility that the home ministry must have sniffed a plot cooking to free Kasab through some high profile ransom or hijack. LeT's agitation can be seen from this point of view.
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why this CT regarding degue fever and kasab.
any one in India can get dengue with mosquitoes and filth around.
it does not kill people - only few have serious complications, and only few among them will die.
kasab was a important prisoner- authorities will make sure he gets top treatment relative to ordinary Indians.

Judiciary will not keep quiet if he dies of illness. it will be out in the open. heads will roll.
congis will be in the dock.
whatever the congi govt did for his hanging, he did not die of dengue.
hope some of you should get over this nonsense. :evil:
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Krisna, imagine this.. an indian mosquito killed a pakistani commando :mrgreen:
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The very fact that its being aired that he didn't know, means he knew. Otherwise they wouldn't let this be leaked to show the fissures.
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krisna wrote:why this CT regarding degue fever and kasab.
any one in India can get dengue with mosquitoes and filth around.
it does not kill people - only few have serious complications, and only few among them will die.
kasab was a important prisoner- authorities will make sure he gets top treatment relative to ordinary Indians.

Judiciary will not keep quiet if he dies of illness. it will be out in the open. heads will roll.
congis will be in the dock.
whatever the congi govt did for his hanging, he did not die of dengue.
hope some of you should get over this nonsense. :evil:
Let me put to rest this CT. Kasab did not die of anything other than Hanging by Law. Had he died otherwise , in custody, there would have been judicial enquiry as mandated by Law under 173 crpc. and postmortem with videography as mandated by NHRC would have been carried out.
He died at the hand of the Lw.
His professed and recorded religion in jail record is Islam and his address faridkot, multan , pakistan and his body would have been buried as per Islamic Law. His body would not be handed over to relatives or next of Kin for reasons recorded in writing even if his relatives ask for it.
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SwamyG wrote:
Lalmohan wrote:punishment of a criminal is the home ministry's matter, nothing for the PM's office
he would have known that the president had rejected the plea
at some stage the cabinet would have discussed it and repurcussions and nodded their assent
the actual event need not be the PM's concern
Kasab was not Auto Shankar, Billa & Ranga. Kasab was a national and international issue, one would not want HMO and PMO working independent of each other and keeping things in dark. My guess is that he would have known, the stakes being high politicians are playing for their party to win. It appears the Ministry of External Affairs was kept in the loop, how does one believe PMO was not kept in the loop. I would expect MMS to have been notified at least the night before. If MMS was truly not notified, man there are deeper fissures and problems.
It is nonsense to say that PM would not know. He would have been briefed by IB much before and decision would have been taken weeks in advance. In fact the decision of President would have come and dates would have been decided. Arther Road Jail is meant for Undertrials and he should have been shifted to Yeravada jail but for security. So Execution warrant was issued to Superintendent of Yravada jail by the Judicial magistrate and Kasab would have been shifted in secrecy which is quite normal in such high profile cases.
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^ He personified the dhimmi attitude correctly "End of 26/11" :evil:
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abhijitm wrote:Krisna, imagine this.. an indian mosquito killed a pakistani commando :mrgreen:
You are ignoring the fact for the world, it appears that we are filth to create dengue.. besides any paki getting killed anyways would be a honor for all even with beating him to death with chappals.

So, we should clearly should put these type of chest beating aside, and work towards getting things cleared up.
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Shinde told NDTV that the UPA chairperson "was not part of the decision" and his Cabinet colleagues learnt of the event through television.

Terming the decision to hang 26/11 terrorist Kasab "a routine" job for him, Shinde said "only the home ministry and the president of India knew of it ... it has nothing to do with the cabinet".
He also denied that the entire hush-hush operation was known as "Operation X". "I don't call it Operation X," he said.

He told the news channel that the high level of secrecy was required so that petitions in courts and human rights activists could be "avoided".
To a question on the impact of the hanging in Pakistan, Shinde said that he was in touch with the Pakistan government and his counterpart.

"He has promised he will cooperate ... Pakistan is also suffering from terrorism and infiltration ... and it is time that both of us consult each other," Shinde said.

Asked if his ministry had taken a decision on parliament attack convict Afzal Guru, Shinde said he would deal with the file when it comes to him.
Shinde says
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What is wrong with some of you guys? Who cares if the twisted f**ck was hanged after he died of Dengue or diarrhea? Or for that matter WTF does Dr Singh or some strange non-Indian words like "dhimmi" has to do with this solemn occasion in which a brave and departed policeman of India, has made sure a paki gets justice? All of us have enough threads to jerkoff to pet themes, but not in this thread, please!!

For once, the Home Ministry has done the right thing, by going about it in a no non-nonsensical way and I am glad they did this.

Even if he was hanged after he died of Dengue, I say it is the right approach. In fact they should cremate his body and hang the urn containing his ashes. Maybe let some Mumbai kids swing a cricket bat at that urn. Little paki prick daring to toss grenades on our unarmed public....
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From Faking News:
That awkward moment when Kasab realizes that he's one of the 72 virgins being sent to Osama...
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AOA everyone,

Please remember this.
Yash Chopra died of Dengue, not kasab.
And both lived in the same city.
Kudos to Arther rd jail people for keeping the piggy fit enough so that he could pass the final medical exam.

I feel the discussion about dengue needs to stop here.
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Mumbai attack gunman Ajmal Kasab hanged, buried in Yerwada prison
WTF the headline says--
ddm you hit the pits.
disgusting.
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nachiket wrote:From Faking News:
That awkward moment when Kasab realizes that he's one of the 72 virgins being sent to Osama...
:rotfl:

Now, all that theology makes perfect sense.

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An year ago, I was thinking that the only way this UPA govt can come back is by making such changes. It was a time when 2g was in focus. I was thinking that perhaps one year or 6 months before the elections, Raul will become PM and MMS will retire for 'health reasons'. Then, some action against corruption cases will be taken. Afzal and Kasab would be hanged. Inflation will be brought down. Loans and schemes for the farmers would be announced. Media would portray Raul as the brave, honest and visionary leader. I anticipated that this was the only way for UPA to return to power. I thought that there was a method to madness.

Since then, many more scams have been exposed. And, Raul has been exposed as incapable of any political intelligence. So, I abandoned that idea and concluded that there was no method, only madness.

This latest development is interesting, particularly the secretive aspect. Why such secrecy? Anyway, now there will be clamour, within the Govt and the congs to claim credit for this. I think disassociating the PM from this action is, perhaps, done to stop from getting credit for it.

But, the question really is: Why now? Is it an election stunt? or is there something else to it? The secrecy raises many doubts. I hope some sort of video will be leaked or released to corroborate the claims.

Anyway, he should have been hanged ages ago. Better late than never, I guess. I am not feeling very celebratory though. After all, Kasab was just another brainwashed idiot used as a foot-soldier. He is punished as he should have been. In fact, the punishment should have been much more prompt. But, nothing jubilant or satisfying about it. It is some thing that it has to be done, thats all. Talking of 'closure' for 26/11 is, I think, premature.

Now, 3 precedents are set:
a) Indians govts would have to go through all the motions of 'trial', 'proof', 'judgement', 'rejection of mercy petition' in all the subsequent cases pertaining to the terrorists(even the foreign ones who were caught red-handed). .
b) Once the mercy petition is rejected, the sentence would have to be carried out(especially, in the case of terrorists).
c) There is no queue in dealing with mercy petitions or the sentencing.

The final question is: This entire episode(from nabbing Kasab to hanging him after such a long time involving this whole political and judicial process); will this deter the average jihadi foot-soldier or not?
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Calling him gunman instead of terrorist is more acceptable than this thread title saying it swift action after spending 4 years of time to hang him. /apologies ahead.
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Virupaksha wrote:Good riddance.So conclusive proof that Afzal Guru is all about psuedo-secularism.
Ofcourse, this is very much true. INC is a curse for India. This is a political game being played by INC to hold onto its power after 2014 . This kind of selective hanging is not going to convince people of India that it is serious about tackling terrorism. If Afzal Guru can be hanged with this kind of seriousness, then it would be good for India. Pakistan will produce N number of Jihadis from within and outside India, is INC really prepared to hang these terrorists who kill innocent people in India.
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He is punished as he should have been. In fact, the punishment should have been much more prompt.



Well I am in the process of serving litigation papers on a scumbag. He knows it too. So I am taking my sweet time.

It multiplies his psychological discomfiture more than anything the kagzaat could accomplish.hehehehe.
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congis are such duplicitious creatures--
during 26/11 aftermath, they were proudly saying that rss was behind it-- recall diggy raja saying it.

now gloating that they have hanged kasab, a tsp terrorist.

diggy raja has not been reprimanded or remioved from his post etc.
shameless.
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Pakistani Islamic Hero Muhammed Ajmal Kasab Hanged and Transported To The Tent Of Seventy Two in YerWadda Sasural.
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The Con goons are desperate to stop Namo from winning in Gujarat and wants to show they have non-existent balls.
Shitistani's will be desperate to do a equal-equal through Sarbjit Singh.
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Vipul wrote:The Con goons are desperate to stop Namo from winning in Gujarat and wants to show they have non-existent balls.
Shitistani's will be desperate to do a equal-equal through Sarbjit Singh.
Congi goons were able to fool people of India for 2 consecutive times . I don't think Gujarat will fall into these tactics of INC. NAMO will be winning Gujarat no matter what Congi goons are plotting. Diggy dog , why isn't he now barking saying that Kasab is a RSS agent ?.
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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

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Vipul wrote:The Con goons are desperate to stop Namo from winning in Gujarat and wants to show they have non-existent balls.
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