Doubt it. Insurance companies run away when there is war and premiums would be high even at peacetime (for the machines).Siddhu wrote:A noob question.....
Are the palnes of IAF Insured?? Do we get money when plane crashes ???
They don't insure planes for the same reason that ISRO doesn't insure its satellites and rockets -- the client and insurance company both would be government firms, and money will simply transfer from one pocket to another.Siddhu wrote:
Are the palnes of IAF Insured?? Do we get money when plane crashes ???
I don't about ISRO rockets, but I wouldn't worry about IAF planes and pilots on Insurance. The way things work, I won't be surprised if the rockets are insured too. The CAG will chew the backsides if Public Assets do not get covered well.NRao wrote:Are Air India planes insured? And if so by whom?
Lloyds should agree to insure sats/rockets.
Besides, there is something called self-insurance. Companies like Accenture, Lucent, etc, are self-insured. They set aside funds just for this purpose. So a nation could do the same. It is after all a matter of covering risks.
All Army personnel are provided Personal and Government Life Insurance by the AGIF (Army Group Insurance Fund). These facilities are provided both during and post retirement as part of the Central Government Employees Group Insurance Scheme (CGEGIS).chackojoseph wrote:They could be subject to transportation, project etc insurance. Both soldiers and war machines cannot be insured.
I believe similar facilities exist for DRDO, IAF and IN chaps too.Controller of Defence Accounts has communicated the decision of Board of Members of Army Group Insurance Fund (AGIF) that Insurance Cover of Commissioned Officers and Non Commissioned Officers are revised to Rs.50 lakhs and Rs.25 lakhs respectively.
Yes, all personnel, military or para military, under MOD or Home Ministry, the insurance is mandatory. The machines are also insured. All.vaibhav.n wrote:All Army personnel are provided Personal and Government Life Insurance by the AGIF (Army Group Insurance Fund). These facilities are provided both during and post retirement as part of the Central Government Employees Group Insurance Scheme (CGEGIS).chackojoseph wrote:They could be subject to transportation, project etc insurance. Both soldiers and war machines cannot be insured.
I believe similar facilities exist for DRDO, IAF and IN chaps too.Controller of Defence Accounts has communicated the decision of Board of Members of Army Group Insurance Fund (AGIF) that Insurance Cover of Commissioned Officers and Non Commissioned Officers are revised to Rs.50 lakhs and Rs.25 lakhs respectively.
Any civilian who flies on a Indian armed forces aircraft has to sign an indemnity bond and because of this they cannot have any claim against the Indian armed forces for any reason.SanjayC wrote:They don't insure planes for the same reason that ISRO doesn't insure its satellites and rockets -- the client and insurance company both would be government firms, and money will simply transfer from one pocket to another.Siddhu wrote:
Are the palnes of IAF Insured?? Do we get money when plane crashes ???
Are these BBJs ELINT platforms or for VIP travel?In 2009, the IAF's Communications Squadron inducted three specially-equipped 46-seater Boeing Business Jets (BBJs) for Rs.936.93 crore.
These aircrafts flown by Air Force pilots from the IAF's communication squadron are equipped with Electronic Countermeasures that can protect the planes from incoming missiles.
The Rs.200-crore ECM suite has a Missile Advanced Warning System that sets off an alarm in the cockpit when a radar locks onto the aircraft. The aircraft can then launch chaff and flares to decoy incoming missiles.
The BBJs with a maximum range of 11,000 km and twin engine configuration are deemed insufficient for a long range VIP aircraft.
Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/air- ... 73223.html
Yes Sir, CEMILAC being Center for Military Airworthiness and Certification, they will certify for Airthworthiness too, but from the best I could gather as I am still to source any authentic literature on this, CEMILAC while handling Ab Initio Designs looks after "Conformance to Airworthiness Requirements".rrao wrote:Deejay, since IJT is a military aircraft RCMA(A/C) which is under CEMILAC will be issuing the certification and not DGCA which is meant for commercial aircraft certification.
An Indian Air Force helicopter on Friday crashed in Sitapur with all seven persons on board feared killed.
The Advanced Light Helicopter Dhruv had taken off from Bareilly. Sub Divisional Magistrate, Sidhauli, A.K. Srivastava said that the chopper was engulfed in fire as it crashed in Manipurwa in Ataria area.
“A helicopter of airforce has crashed here. It is engulfed in fire and it is feared that all on board might have died,” Mr. Srivastava told PTI.
Attempts were underway to douse the fire. Senior officials of district administration and police have reached the spot.
District Magistrate, Sitapur, J.P. Singh said that the helicopter took off from Bareilly and was going towards Allahabad.
“According to our information, there were seven persons on board the chopper including a pilot and a co-pilot. As per the reports received from officials, no one is appeared to have survived,” he said.
Sitapur is nearly 160 km from Bareilly and over 90 km from Lucknow.
My my, what do we have here?Philip wrote:Bad news.7 IAF personnel killed in an ALH crash near Sitapur in UP.The pilot reported an emergency shortly after take off.The govt. has just announced the order of 32 more Dhruvs.2 ALHs supplied to Ecuador have also crashed,though at least one was reported due to pilot error.
+1 There are lot of import Rajas playing the import Baja surreptitiously.nik wrote:I actually don't mind Phillip's consistent pitch for russian gear. Easy to tune out the postings altogether.
Now can't say same about other undercover import gurus. Those i feel at pains to be with as they put a lot of effort in masking their true intentions !
Rohitvats, the real cause for concern here is how the import lobby uses every incident however tragic to kill Indian products & industry to facilitate imports, imports whose own faults are conveniently overlooked.vic wrote:I am thinking about the best name for persons who surreptitiously support imports. Any suggestions? My pick:-
Import Rajas
Import Bajas
Import Rudalis
Import Ayatollahs
Import Patriots
This is not your personal forum where you'll go around naming and branding people. You try this stunt again and you're looking at a warning here. Enough of your nonsense on this. - rohitvats.
No one is stopping anyone from airing his or her POV. Only request made is to use civil language. There are enough posters here who can and do shred the decision made by Services to pieces w/o resorting to foul language. Strong language, Yes but not foul language. And therein lies the difference.srutayus wrote: Rohitvats, the real cause for concern here is how the import lobby uses every incident however tragic to kill Indian products & industry to facilitate imports, imports whose own faults are conveniently overlooked. Please do not take the outrage that is felt as a result of this as a personal insult to your ego and insult the members of this forum. A forum by definition belongs to everyone who participates and the "moderator" are moderators not owners. The truth cannot be suppressed by insulting those that say it.
Its very true, not just moderators but even the owners are not whole sole owners.srutayus wrote: Please do not take the outrage that is felt as a result of this as a personal insult to your ego and insult the members of this forum. A forum by definition belongs to everyone who participates and the "moderator" are moderators not owners.
The truth cannot be suppressed by insulting those that say it.
When a brand new C-17 III Globemaster super heavy transport aircraft lands at Delhi's Palam airport from the US to join the IAF fleet next week, it will be carrying in its belly a vintage Harvard trainer that will fly in the Indian skies again after more than four decades.
The Harvard, a design that dates back to the 1930s, is being brought to India after being restored in Britain. It is the second vintage IAF aircraft to be restored after a Tiger Moth of 1930s vintage that has been flying regularly at air events.
India has a rich aviation heritage and restoration of the Tiger Moth and Harvard is part of the IAF's efforts to preserve these magnificent flying machines.
The delivery of the Harvard will mark the culmination of the first phase of a vintage aircraft restoration programme being undertaken with the help of Britain-based Re-Flight. Six more aircraft will follow this.
The second phase will see a Hurricane, a Spitfire, a Lysander and a Tempest being brought back to life. In the final phase, a Wapiti, the aircraft with which the IAF was born, will be restored.
First, I don't think I called anybody stupid or nonsensical. Content of the post, Yes, but not the poster.nik wrote:@ Rohitvats - In most developed parts of the world - been called 'stupid' is like been trampled over and saying that your genes are below par. I am sure you are unaware but please refrain when going after individual posters with inappropriate language. It's the post not the person you need to moderate. Some individuals engage in a bit of humor which is necessary given the ludicrous situation. Please refrain from using strong language like 'nonsense' or use synonyms (aka Google search) to move focus on post - not person. My 'humble' suggestions!
