Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 14 Jul 2015 02:57

Lt Gen Man Mohan Singh Rai to be next Vice-Chief of Army

member_26622 · Post by **member_26622** » 14 Jul 2015 05:58

The shoe procurement is kind of funny - because every single 'multinational' makes their shoes in China or somewhere next to South China sea . Going shoe-less to war is no fun.

We need the 'best' as always - custom fit leather shoes from Britain or Italy are wonderful!

wig · Post by **wig** » 14 Jul 2015 09:03

changes in army top brass and probable successor to Gen Suhag when he retires in 2017

The Ministry of Defence has cleared three changes at the top in the Army. Lt Gen Man Mohan Singh Rai has been appointed as the next Vice-Chief of the Army. He will take over the charge on July 31 on the superannuation of Lt Gen Philip Campose.
Lt Gen Rai is presently the Eastern Army Commander based at Kolkatta. Lt Gen Praveen Bakshi, who is from the 1st Horse (Skinners Horse) Regiment, will replace him.
General Bakshi is tipped to be the next Army Chief when Gen Dalbir Singh Suhag superannuates in 2017. If the government goes by the principle of seniority, Lt Gen Bakshi could very well become the first Chief from the Armoured Corps since General Shankar Roy Chowdhury (retd). The Ministry of Defence has also given nod to the appointment of Lt Gen PM Hariz as the new Commander of Army Training Command, Shimla. He will replace Lt Gen Sanjeev Madhok.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation ... 06386.html

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 14 Jul 2015 12:43

vaibhav.n wrote:Rohit,

Have you heard of the PA raising a new formation solely for the China-Pak Economic Corridor?? Supposedly, 34th Inf Div to tackle Balochistan and protect Gwadar.

Well, the only new 'raising' that I've been dealing lately with are my two months old twins...no time for tracing any other new raisings....

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 14 Jul 2015 12:50

^Congratulations (boys or girls or both?). They must be a handful. Going through the parent phase myself with my 9-month-old. The boy is a handful (but cute as hell

).

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 14 Jul 2015 12:57

Arun Menon wrote:^Congratulations (boys or girls or both?). They must be a handful. Going through the parent phase myself with my 9-month-old. The boy is a handful (but cute as hell ).

Many thanks.

A boy and a girl. And they sure are handful. Again, thanks to Indian family system, we're managing well with full 24 x 7 support from both families.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 14 Jul 2015 13:55

Rohit,

Congratulations, so how is the sleep ?

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 14 Jul 2015 17:08

Pratyush wrote:Rohit,

Congratulations, so how is the sleep ?

You sadistic bugg#r, you.....

Ashokk · Post by **Ashokk** » 15 Jul 2015 23:02

In Dramatic Rescue, Armymen Move Truck With Bare Hands

New Delhi: An army contingent stopped for a thrilling rescue act on spotting a man trapped under a truck on the highway in Maharashtra.
On Tuesday, a dumper truck toppled over on the rain-slick highway between Ahmednagar and Shirdi. The vehicle fell on a pan shop vendor.
An Indian Army bus passing through noticed the commotion and stopped. On assessing the situation, about a dozen personnel got together and using only their strength heaved the truck back into place.
A video that has been circulated on WhatsApp zooms in on the man who survived the weight of the truck.
"Must see the video and salute the Indian Army. These are GUARDSMEN presumably from the Regt Centre passing through... KUDOS! !!" said a message posted along with the video.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 16 Jul 2015 02:02

rohitvats wrote:Well, the only new 'raising' that I've been dealing lately with are my two months old twins...no time for tracing any other new raisings....

Arun Menon wrote:^Congratulations (boys or girls or both?). They must be a handful. Going through the parent phase myself with my 9-month-old. The boy is a handful (but cute as hell ).

Congrats to you both! Enjoy...they grow fast!

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 16 Jul 2015 05:51

^Thanks

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 16 Jul 2015 07:49

ashokk wrote:In Dramatic Rescue, Armymen Move Truck With Bare Hands
New Delhi: An army contingent stopped for a thrilling rescue act on spotting a man trapped under a truck on the highway in Maharashtra.
On Tuesday, a dumper truck toppled over on the rain-slick highway between Ahmednagar and Shirdi. The vehicle fell on a pan shop vendor.
An Indian Army bus passing through noticed the commotion and stopped. On assessing the situation, about a dozen personnel got together and using only their strength heaved the truck back into place.
A video that has been circulated on WhatsApp zooms in on the man who survived the weight of the truck.
"Must see the video and salute the Indian Army. These are GUARDSMEN presumably from the Regt Centre passing through... KUDOS! !!" said a message posted along with the video.

This is good. Not just Armymen but some others were lending hand too. They pushed an entire dump truck straight.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 16 Jul 2015 08:43

Absolutely brilliant work by the army. Eminently Tweetable it's a must Tweet - which I did.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 16 Jul 2015 08:45

rohitvats wrote:
vaibhav.n wrote:Rohit,

Have you heard of the PA raising a new formation solely for the China-Pak Economic Corridor?? Supposedly, 34th Inf Div to tackle Balochistan and protect Gwadar.

Well, the only new 'raising' that I've been dealing lately with are my two months old twins...no time for tracing any other new raisings....

Twins! Congrats! Saala double barrel shot maara kya?

vaibhav.n · Post by **vaibhav.n** » 16 Jul 2015 10:18

rohitvats wrote:
vaibhav.n wrote:Rohit,

Have you heard of the PA raising a new formation solely for the China-Pak Economic Corridor?? Supposedly, 34th Inf Div to tackle Balochistan and protect Gwadar.

Well, the only new 'raising' that I've been dealing lately with are my two months old twins...no time for tracing any other new raisings....

Congrats!!....

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 16 Jul 2015 11:28

shiv wrote:
rohitvats wrote:...

Well, the only new 'raising' that I've been dealing lately with are my two months old twins...no time for tracing any other new raisings....
Twins! Congrats! Saala double barrel shot maara kya?

Congrats Rohit for the double joy!!! Congrats Arun Menon ji.

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 16 Jul 2015 11:49

shiv wrote:
Well, the only new 'raising' that I've been dealing lately with are my two months old twins...no time for tracing any other new raisings....
Twins! Congrats! Saala double barrel shot maara kya?

Sir, shot to ek hi that....nishane do lag gaye....

Gyan · Post by **Gyan** » 16 Jul 2015 15:37

Congrats Rohit

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 18 Jul 2015 22:56

News has rejected the US Raven hand thrown mini-UAV as it fails to meet requirements.The alt is too low,as the IA wants a UAV that can fly higher to avoid being shot down by ground forces. The IA is also reported to be refusing to modify its requirements.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 21 Jul 2015 19:41

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsf/a ... 50721.aspx

Special Operations: India Seeks A SOCOM Of Their Own

July 21, 2015: There is growing enthusiasm in the Indian military for the formation of a SOCOM (Special Operations Command). This comes largely because of the success the original American SOCOM enjoyed after it was created in the 1980s. That was followed by many other nations doing the same. One of the most recent was Israel in 2007. That is important because Israel has become a major defense supplier and military ally of India since the 1990s and the two countries exchange a lot military-related information and experiences. Indian officers and special operations troops are quite familiar with the success of the Israeli SOCOM.

The driving force behind all this was the success of the original American SOCOM. A series of U.S. Department of Defense reforms in the late 1980s included the establishment of the U.S. Special Operations Command (USSOCOM). This was a major step up for the commandos. SOCOM was now a "major command," with a four star general in charge. The SOCOM commander had control over all commandos in the Department of Defense. This was a unique situation. Normally, troops from different services don't operate in the same major unit ("command") like this. But the commandos didn't mind. Some of the service chiefs did, as they saw their men as useful "assets" for their service. But there was another trend in the 1980s Department of Defense; "Thinking Purple." This meant all the services cooperating more closely and thinking about each other’s capabilities and problems. Combining all the colors of each services uniforms and you get purple, and everyone in the Department of Defense was encouraged to get with this program. Not everyone did, but the commandos were enthusiastic about the proposition. They had long noted that commandos had more in common with other commandos (from different services, or even different nations), than with other people in their own service.

About two thirds of SOCOMs troops came from the army, which had their Special Forces, Rangers, Delta Force, psywar and civil affairs troops and special aviation units. The next largest contribution (about 20 percent) comes from the air force, who have several different types of air power related commandos and special aircraft units. The navy provided its SEALs and the special boat units needed to land them in hostile environments. The marine Force Recon LRRPs were the only commando units in Department of Defense that did not join SOCOM at the beginning. The marines finally signed on in 2005.

India has already adopted some SOCOM ideas. In 2012 the Indian Army was given permission to do something American Special Forces have been able to do for decades: buy whatever equipment they need, without going through the procurement bureaucracy. This move was in response to a recently leaked report detailing how corruption, and efforts to deal with it, have paralyzed a lot of military procurement, leaving Indian commandos without the weapons and equipment needed to do all that is demanded of them. These "fast-track" exceptions provide opportunities for more corruption, which in cases like this is seen as the lesser of many evils. At the same time the Indian commandos were not given a lot of money to get whatever they needed and there is a feeling that a SOCOM type operation would give special operations troops a louder voice in the political and media struggle for more money and less corruption.

Meanwhile the Indian Army has had one special operations crisis after another for the last decade. For example, in 2010 when the Para-Commando force sought to add an eighth battalion there were complaints that the troops involved are not getting adequate training or equipment. This was an increasingly common issue for all the special operations troops. India has several different special operations organizations and each of them have a specific mission and all too often serious problems with the government procurement bureaucracy. Para Commandos form the parachute infantry of the Army but have been given additional training and equipment to enable them to carry out commando type operations. A lot of the special equipment never seems to arrive, nor does all the additional money for training.

The Special Protection Group personnel are assigned the task of protection for India's Prime Minister and VIPs from terrorist attacks. For some reason these troops always seem to get what they need. This leads many Indians (military and civilian) to see the special operations procurement problems as the fault of self-serving politicians.

The elite MARCOS unit acts as India's Navy SEAL teams and performs special ops on the high seas. Again, there are constant shortages of equipment and training opportunities. Moreover MARCOS often does not cooperate with army special operations forces and actually duplicates some of the army special operations capabilities.

The primary counter-terror unit in the country is the 15,000 man National Security Guards and the ones who have borne most of the responsibility for tackling India's persistent insurgent problems over the last couple of decades. These fellows are constantly called on to deal with emergencies equipped only with promises of new gear and weapons.

Over the last decade the army has formed a force of over 7,200 commandos so that each of the 359 infantry battalions in the army could have a twenty man Ghatak (commando) platoon. While this gave each battalion some shock troops, it also increased discontent among the rest of the troops, who now see modern equipment up close and wonder why they don't have it (like most of their Western counterparts do). In many cases some Ghatak platoons didn't have it either, while others did. This uneven distribution of modern gear caused morale problems among the Ghatak troops. Another cause of discontent was the knowledge, often via the Internet, that commandos from other nations often had better, or much better, equipment and weapons than the Ghatak units. The last decade has seen accelerating development of new commando equipment, but Indian commandos feel like they're the last to get the new stuff, if at all.

India has been increasing spending on equipment for its ground forces since 2000, but these efforts have been uneven. Some of this has been caused by corruption. Like many other nations India has long had problems with kickbacks and favoritism in defense procurement. But it's been worse with India, which ranks high in international surveys of how corrupt nations are. To many Indian soldiers this seems to explain why they are constantly risking their lives using second rate weapons and equipment.

The end result of this is that India is under increasing pressure, from below, to honor promises to upgrade the weapons and equipment of the infantry forces. These troops have fallen far behind other armies and the troops, and especially their officers, are not being quiet about it. But government plans to upgrade infantry weapons and equipment have not amounted to much. The troops are not happy with this.

While India spends a lot of money on its fighter aircraft, naval vessels, and heavy ground equipment like tanks and APCs, very little is spent on taking care of the infantry. This isn't unique to the Indians, it just happens that the infantry historically doesn't get first grab at funds within the military and are usually at the bottom of the list when it comes to spending in general.

Thus Indian special operations officers believe an Indian SOCOM would give the special operations forces more political clout within the government to get what they need before an emergency arises and the politicians start blaming each other, and the military, for not having the necessary weapons and equipment.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 22 Jul 2015 22:34

Ongoing Army probe reveals complicity of army officials and irregularities in contract with private sector software firm

Army spooks under the scanner

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 24 Jul 2015 22:53

when aam desis do it.. it is pro and nice and perfect.

but when IA does it! it goes beyond leaps and bounds. this is way too fantastic!!
the tremors of such shows will cross boundaries!

https://twitter.com/SpokespersonMoD/sta ... 0555130880

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 30 Jul 2015 19:43

54 soldiers missing in wars believed to be in Pakistan custody: Govt

New Delhi: As many as 54 missing defence personnel of 1965 and 1971 wars are believed to be in custody in Pakistan, government said on Friday.

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar, in a written reply in Lok Sabha, said the government has repeatedly been taking up the matter with Pakistan for the release of the missing defence personnel believed to be in Pakistan's custody.

"However, Pakistan does not acknowledge the presence of any such personnel in its custody," he said.

A delegation of 14 relatives of missing personnel defence personnel also visited 10 jails in Pakistan during 1-14 June, 2007.

"The delegations, however, could not conclusively confirm the physical presence of any missing defence personnel," he said.

The Minister said families of these missing defence personnel were given liberalised pensionary and rehabilitation benefits as per extant rules.

Subsequently, payment of service and retirement benefits have been made to the kin of the 38 (including one from BSF) out of the 54 missing defence personnel believed to be in custody in Pakistan, as if they had retired on superannuation, in compliance with judgement dated 23.12.2011 by the High Court of Gujarat," he said.

In the case of 13 missing defence personnel, dues have been deposited in the High Court of Gujarat due to non-availability of the kin, legal heirs or non establishment of legal heirship of the claimant.

Details of 3 missing defence personnel are not known and the High Court has been apprised in this regard, Parrikar said.

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 01 Aug 2015 22:30

An Airstrip at 16,000 Feet Becomes Meeting Point Between India and China

Ladakh, Jammu and Kashmir: Indian and Chinese military commanders today met at one of the highest airstrips in the world, Daulat Beg Oldie (DBO) in Ladakh, making it the fifth border meeting point between the two sides.

"Border meetings between two militaries are critical .They are used to resolve local issues like patrols inadvertently crossing over and prevents flare-ups," a senior officer told NDTV.

DBO was the site of three week long stand-off between the two militaries in 2013 when the Chinese had objected to fortification along the Indian side in Chumur. Located in Northern Ladakh at altitude of 16,000 feet ,DBO overlooks the Karakoram Pass - an ancient trade route between Leh and China's Xinjiang province.

The meeting point at DBO is the second border meeting point to be activated in the last one year. This May, a border meeting point was opened at Kibithoo in Anjaw District, located in the extreme east of Arunachal Pradesh. Connected by hotline, the Indian and Chinese military officials had their first meeting which was conducted around the time Prime Minister Narendra Modi visited China between May 14 and May 16 this year.

Prior to these two new border meeting points, the Indian and Chinese had only three designated border meetings points to cater 3,488 Km of disputed border. These were at the Spanngur Gap at Chusul in eastern Ladakh, Bum-La near Tawang in Arunachal Pradesh and Nathu-La in north-eastern Sikkim.

Increasing the border meeting points is part of the new government initiative to lessen India- China border tensions. More military to military contact to sort out local issues is critical to this end. It is also part of PM Modi's overall strategy to better ties with China.

The Indian military delegation in DBO was led by Colonel BS Uppal and the Chinese delegation was led by Colonel Song Zhoanli. The meeting also marked the People's Liberation Army (PLA) day.

member_26011 · Post by **member_26011** » 02 Aug 2015 07:31

Not sure where to place this, article documenting fate of several soldiers from kargil

http://www.storypick.com/unsung-kargil-heroes/

vaibhav.n · Post by **vaibhav.n** » 06 Aug 2015 22:14

Raghu Raman, former CEO of the Indian National Intelligence Grid (NATGRID)

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 11 Aug 2015 10:06

Indian Army tops popularity charts on Facebook

arun · Post by **arun** » 16 Aug 2015 12:41

X posted from the “India Border Watch: Security and Operations” thread.

BSF miffed with Army for leaving LoC winter posts.

Read more at:

Economic Times

arun · Post by **arun** » 16 Aug 2015 12:46

The Railway Employees have a valid point. If the Military is entitled to OROP, then so should other Central Government employees, Railway employees included.

Meanwhile most of those slaving in the private sector do not have the luxury of inflation adjusted defined benefit pensions leave alone defined contribution and must make do with none.

The BJP badly erred in promising OROP in its election manifesto, a promise that is going to cost the private sector employed Indian Taxpayer a pretty penny:

Railway employees raise demand for One Rank One Pension

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 16 Aug 2015 18:05

May the brave soul rest in peace.

Lance Naik Vedmitra Choudhary

Jawan beaten to death while trying to save girl from molesters
http://www.sify.com/news/jawan-beaten-t ... ecedc.html

Meerut: An army jawan was beaten to death by a group of goons in Meerut after he tried to stop the men from harassing a girl.

The incident happened when 35-year-old Lance Naik Vedmitra Choudhary had gone to bring milk from a shop in Rohta Road in Hardevnagar on Thursday.

He saw a group of men was trying to molest the daughter of the shop owner. Choudhary immediately went to the girl's rescue and beat one of the molesters.

But soon the group turned up with more men. They allegedly beat Chaudhary up with iron rods. A seriously injured Chaudhary was admitted to a nearby hospital but he succumbed to his head injury yesterday.

Three persons have been arrested and a search was on to nab the other accussed, police said.

somnath · Post by **somnath** » 16 Aug 2015 19:49

arun wrote:The Railway Employees have a valid point. If the Military is entitled to OROP, then so should other Central Government employees, Railway employees included.

Meanwhile most of those slaving in the private sector do not have the luxury of inflation adjusted defined benefit pensions leave alone defined contribution and must make do with none.

The BJP badly erred in promising OROP in its election manifesto, a promise that is going to cost the private sector employed Indian Taxpayer a pretty penny:

Railway employees raise demand for One Rank One Pension

I dont think Railways employees have a valid point, but I do think that OROP is a silver poison pill. All parties, BJP included have been rash in promising it in (political) haste and then repenting at leisure.

To put things in perspective, the defence pension bill (its accounted for outside of the defence budget, for some inexplicable reason) already amounts to 50k crores. Implementing OROP at 2014 payscales will cost an incremental 12k to 25k crores (depending on which number one believes). And this, when we have a Pay Commission just around the corner. Typically, PCs tend to inflate wage bills by 25-30% in one shot - and all govt salaries and pensions being inflation indexed, creates a higher base for future raises. I wont be surprised if OROP and PC recos together cause the defence pension bill to jump to 1 lac crores.

And this, when the Army has no plans of any signifcant manpower rationalisation exercise. On the contrary, we are raising new divisions and Corps all the time.

India has thankfully avoided the "pension trap" of Europe - in large parts due to a sagacious move in 2003 to migrate all govt employees (first centre, and then most states followed) to a Defined Contribution (DC) pension plan. The only exception was defence, where the Defined Benefit (DB) pensions continue.

The general tenor of discussion around the topic is around the maliciousness of the babudom. Its substantially true, but over the years the MoD bureaucracy has done clever tricks with budgets to the advantage of the military - pensions, Assam Rifles, Rashtriya Rifles, nuclear weapons programme, nuke subs - the number of "defence" articles outside the official defence budget has kept going up. But there is only so much of fiscal space available.

Unless the military looks at radical rehaul of its organisation, force structures and marries fiscal constraints with operational requirements, its going to be tough going.

Pensions have wrecked budgets of corporations and sovereigns world over. OROP, unless thought through will do the same for the Indian military.

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 16 Aug 2015 20:00

The MI should take care of these guys, were they peacefuls ?

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 16 Aug 2015 21:54

I am not sure what is the case for Railwaymen to get OROP. They are , like other Govt Civil Employees, non pensionable since 1.1.2004.
As for already retired , their pension is fixed based on the pension rules already available and such demands were not raised nor was it ever granted to them in past unlike Armed Forces.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 16 Aug 2015 22:06

suryag wrote:The MI should take care of these guys, were they peacefuls ?

No. They were Criminals.
After killing a jawan, these Meerut guys use tricolor as mat for drinks in roadside party

It seems like independence or patriotism means very little to nothing to some people in the country. In a shameful incident that came to light in Meerut's Modipuram area, some youngsters were spotted enjoying drinks and cake on the occasion of one of their friends' birthday.

However, they were using the tricolor as a table mat kept on the bonnet of their car. The incident took place at 11 pm on August 14 at the Daurala flyover. They had spread the national flag on their car and kept bottles of alcohol on it along with the cake.

According to reports, the men were on their way to Haridwar, in their car number DL 11 D 7272, when they stopped the car to celebrate the birthday of their friend Amit Upadhyay. The group of youths said that they celebrate Amit's birthday which, coincides with the Independence Day i.e. August 15, this way every year.

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 17 Aug 2015 02:16

OROP may be the nudge that will force the GOI to up the defence budget towards 3% of GDP. Without it, no further equipment purchases are possible.

Maybe that is why contracts have not been signed for even the purchases that have been approved in principle such as the M777, the C295 etc.

There is most likely no money left in the kitty based upon the budget that was approved.

à¤µà¤°à¥à¤£ · Post by **à¤µà¤°à¥à¤£** » 17 Aug 2015 02:37

After killing a jawan, these Meerut guys use tricolor as mat for drinks in roadside party

That article headline is incorrect. The article clearly states that the lynching of the army man, and the incident with the flag being used as a drinking mat were separate incidents.

A mob beat up an army jawan named Ved Mitra to death as he protested against them when he saw the youths indulging in eve-teasing a woman. Now, another incident that took place in Meerut will make you bury your head in the sand.

somnath · Post by **somnath** » 17 Aug 2015 09:17

Kakkaji wrote:OROP may be the nudge that will force the GOI to up the defence budget towards 3% of GDP. Without it, no further equipment purchases are possible.

Maybe that is why contracts have not been signed for even the purchases that have been approved in principle such as the M777, the C295 etc.

There is most likely no money left in the kitty based upon the budget that was approved.

On the contrary, pension bills will eat into incremental outlays on procurements. Think of it rationally, and our politicians are quite rational (w.r.t their own self interests). If OROP was a slam dunk, why is it still pending? After all, it doesnt involve too many variables except the monetary outlay (unlike security policy or equipment procurement that always have multiple stakeholders, politics and conflicting policy imperatives).

Chidambaram confirmed in multiple interviews that the MoD told him that the incremental outlay for OROP would be 500-1000 crores, when he was in the midst of presenting his last budget (vote on account). He didnt believe the numbers, but the then govt anyways was on its way out. So he allocated 1000 crores and said we will see.

Obvioulsy Jaitley and Parriker have had more clarity on the numbers, basis various scenarios. And they dont look pretty. Its not a one-time 8000 crores (the lower end of the numbers being bandied around). Coupled with the impending Pay Commission, the numbers would be far higher.

Unfortunately, no one's bringing new ideas to the table. For example, can we (on a prospective basis) move to a Defined Contribution (DC) based pension for the forces? Given the short(er) career span of a jawan, maybe fix the govt "contribution" at a higher level (say, 30-40% of basis, as opposed to the standard 10-12%)? Invest the money in NPS and have the retiree buy an annuity on retirement.

Unfortunately, a compensation issue has been painted over time in overly emotive colours - its a tiger that no one can get off.

The final victim will actually be the Indian Army.

Combining all "defence" related items, our defence expenditure would be upwards of 2% of GDP. People talk of 3% of GDP, but then our tax-to-GDP (centre and states) is ~14-15%. We already spend more on defence than we do on any other single head.

rkhanna · Post by **rkhanna** » 17 Aug 2015 11:03

GooseBumps.

sum · Post by **sum** » 17 Aug 2015 11:40

^^ Saw this on FB yesterday. amazing piece of work!

srin · Post by **srin** » 17 Aug 2015 14:23

somnath wrote: Unfortunately, no one's bringing new ideas to the table. For example, can we (on a prospective basis) move to a Defined Contribution (DC) based pension for the forces? Given the short(er) career span of a jawan, maybe fix the govt "contribution" at a higher level (say, 30-40% of basis, as opposed to the standard 10-12%)? Invest the money in NPS and have the retiree buy an annuity on retirement.

NPS might be a very good idea, with modifications esp the increased Govt contribution that you suggested. And here's an article from VRO with the same idea: An OROP Solution: How the NPS Can Ensure an Affordable OROP