Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 11 Jan 2015 21:34

With US SD sponsored mission failing to turn-up any evidence against Modi and the SC of India appointed SIT clearing him of any wrongdoing it will be *impossible* to drag Modi to any court let alone The Hague under *normal* circumstances.

It is possible *ONLY and ONLY* if a heavily *compromised* Indian government agrees to *allow* him to be dragged to court outside the country *without any evidence*. Even then there is the Indian public opinion that any government inside and outside the country will have to contend with.

As *someone* said Modi would never have been under a US visa ban had the Indian state (UPA) not been complicit. Infact *some* have even suggested that it was the CON party the pushed the hardest to get him on that list.

They couldn't take him on inside the country but their *hate* for him was so overpowering that they allowed outside powers to meddle in our internal affairs.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 11 Jan 2015 21:51

Blowing up of terror boat by the "occupants" and release of the story by ICGS in trickling juicy details is a message to Pakis: " we Know"

Were there only four??
Did they really die??
Did the boat really blew up like reported??
What happened to remaining occupants, other than four mentioned??
How long and whom all Indian have been tracking and tapping??
How did they get to know abt these boats??
Why ICGS is not releasing the full details of operations??
What really happened to the cargo??
Did they get hold of equipments given by handlers?
Do they know about their families in Pakistan??
What else they knwo abt t=such operations??

The whole of MSM coverage was centred around trying to glean classified information abt the operations since Pakis could not ask anything abt the boat or its occupants without publicly revealing their role. So they asked their pimps in MSM to try and find out details.

At least that is my CT.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 11 Jan 2015 22:07

a country that is going to be a 'great nuclear power' of the future can't be let mishandled by few bad media-persons. it is time to reign in folks. we need better regulatory and media policy corrections that considers all aspects of FoE, nation security, scopes and boundaries of expressions, what is crossing the line means, etc. I know, this will spiral a topic of burning khujlies for ndtv, cnns and ibns against chaiwalas, ghar-grown ops, and sada dharmics on the streets.

media can spoil and break a nation. it is very important step we are taking as a nation to correct the tolerance limits.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 11 Jan 2015 22:40

The DDM media lives by one main rule :- create a lie, repeat that lie as loudly as possible and as often as possible. That will throw enough FUD in the situation that the fence sitters who are confused are never able to find the truth. PS and his bunch of main stream traitors are doing just that.

Our misfortune is that most Indians are fence sitters, perhaps that also is a colonial legacy of a deep inferiority complex.

Anyone remember Hitler Modi and 2002 yeevil Yindooo riots?

The MSM is a one trick pony, that is and will be there trick for the foreseeable future.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 11 Jan 2015 23:22

What India has seen is a picture of Boat on explosive fire. Rest is Press release by ICGS or MOD or FUD by media and INC. Now who do we believe. Mumbai 26/11 was caused by terrorists who came by boats. Rest everyone can infer. There is no other source of info hence the desperation of MSM and INC to help their paki handlers. No live coverage here.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 11 Jan 2015 23:32

chaanakya wrote:Blowing up of terror boat by the "occupants" and release of the story by ICGS in trickling juicy details is a message to Pakis: " we Know"

Were there only four??
Did they really die??
Did the boat really blew up like reported??
What happened to remaining occupants, other than four mentioned??
How long and whom all Indian have been tracking and tapping??
How did they get to know abt these boats??
Why ICGS is not releasing the full details of operations??
What really happened to the cargo??
Did they get hold of equipments given by handlers?
Do they know about their families in Pakistan??
What else they knwo abt t=such operations??

The whole of MSM coverage was centred around trying to glean classified information abt the operations since Pakis could not ask anything abt the boat or its occupants without publicly revealing their role. So they asked their pimps in MSM to try and find out details.

At least that is my CT.

This is not a CT. It's the truth.

This is EXACTLY what the b@stard$ are doing in the name of freedom of the press, pressitutes receiving thirty pieces of silver for betraying the country.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 11 Jan 2015 23:54

One possibility is that the boat was filled with fake INR of large denomination 500 RS notes. Paper would burn not explode. a large infusion of such currency into INDIAN coast can cause lots of problems done as big as exploding a large IED. Heck, the receiving parties would be able to even buy IEDs by the bushel to cause large scale terror and mayhem.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 12 Jan 2015 00:05

Is that worth suiciding over?

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 12 Jan 2015 03:58

Are we sure the boatswine are dead?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 12 Jan 2015 06:49

Plan to close tomorrow if no new info comes in.

Thakur_B · Post by **Thakur_B** » 12 Jan 2015 07:44

ramana wrote:Plan to close tomorrow if no new info comes in.

It isn't over.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/paki ... 12644.html

Satellite phones on the Pakistani boat that exploded on January 1 remained active for next 5 days

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 12 Jan 2015 08:13

chetak wrote: This is EXACTLY what the b@stard$ are doing in the name of freedom of the press, pressitutes receiving thirty pieces of silver for betraying the country.

I'ts all hawala related. Both congies and presstitutes have serious common incentive to do ISI's bidding. If you care to watch these guys' near and distant families, you will notice complete nobodies making short "vacation" trips to Hong Kong and Dubai every few months. They will hand over a suitcase full of cash in India, travel to Dubai, receive a slightly smaller suitcase full of dollars (much less than official exchange rate), open a bank account and make a large cash deposit. In return, these guys are beholden forever to the ISI who runs almost 100% of hawala. Many of these guys have property in those places and will vanish there if the noose tightens. Unfortunately, we can't squeeze nuts in Dubai (arabs) and Hong Kong (chinese) to divulge names and details but a way must be found to do just that.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 12 Jan 2015 08:14

matrimc wrote:Are we sure the boatswine are dead?

Glad to see this word before the thread closed

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 12 Jan 2015 08:20

Thakur_B wrote:
ramana wrote:Plan to close tomorrow if no new info comes in.
It isn't over.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/paki ... 12644.html
Satellite phones on the Pakistani boat that exploded on January 1 remained active for next 5 days

sorry if I am being dense, but what exactly does this mean??

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 12 Jan 2015 10:51

^^^ It means that the phones were not destroyed with the boat. There are a lot of things missing. I think GOI and the armed forces must develop a integrated media co-ordination center, that speaks on behalf of all the forces and is the only official version of what the forces have to say.

An "un-named" source within a political party is something that is OK. However an "un-named" source within the armed forces is nothing but a spy, since that un-named source need not follow protocol while divulging any issues to our Mir Jaffers (errrm: Journalists). Any "un-named' source should be investigated as a national security issue, without exceptions.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 12 Jan 2015 10:52

xpost from STFUP thread for the amazing results that our journalistic cacophony has created over this terror boat incident:

While the whining to unkil Kerry of Kerry-Langoor fame is obvious, here is a part of that article that highlights why some of our media personalities must be rewarded with Bharath Ratna :

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-1 ... bout-India

Kerry’s visit also comes at the heels of the recent ‘Terror Boat’ episode in which the Indian Coast Guard claimed to have apprehended a Pakistani boat near the coast of Indian State of Gujarat. The Indian media initially speculated that the boat was on its way to conduct another Mumbai-like terror attack. Even after conflicting reports on the nature of the dramatic incident – the boat either caught fire or exploded – as it appeared in the Indian media, the Indian Defence Minister, Manohar Parrikar has continued to insist that people on the boat were terrorists and not smugglers.

A Pakistani Foreign Ministry official drew parallels between the strange ‘Terror Boat’ incident and the Chattisinghpura, Kashmir massacre of 2000 in which 34 Sikhs were killed. The massacre occurred on the same day when the then US President Bill Clinton was visiting India. The Indian government blamed Pakistan for the butchery but an official investigation by the [Indian] Punjab Human Rights Organization and the [Indian] Movement Against State Repression later indicated that “Pakistan had nothing to gain by ordering militants/mercenaries to massacre Sikhs in the Kashmir Valley”.

If anyone from the MSM is reading this, we from BRF thank you from all our hearts. You have truly achieved the heights of journalism.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 12 Jan 2015 10:55

And CJ, claimed that he was not providing Aid and comfort to the enemy. I can only say that the Indian media and the Indian govt have a different definition of the enemy.

With this I say IB4TL

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 12 Jan 2015 11:07

Agree with MSM trying to get info about this incident from GoI, but GoI giving them middle finger which is causing too much burnol moment for them. A CG boat chasing a fishing boat in open sea for 1 hr seems far fetched

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 12 Jan 2015 11:18

Possible, if you are worried about a cole like incident. You chase but maintain your distance while trying to figure out how to board and inspect the vessel. You would always be careful in boarding a vessel which is not cooperating.

If the CG vessel was fired upon then the task of boarding becomes even more difficult.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 12 Jan 2015 11:26

Or there was an exchange of fire between the 2 and CG fired back. They wont fire at boats under they come under fire

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 12 Jan 2015 11:41

saravana wrote:
matrimc wrote:Are we sure the boatswine are dead?
Glad to see this word before the thread closed

Yes these are totally dishonorable as opposed to Boatswain which is an honorable profession. bosuns work hard to earn a n honest living.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 12 Jan 2015 11:44

Got that and it was a good wordplay.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 12 Jan 2015 13:08

If an assassination attempt on a former chief minister and now Prime Minister is converted into a fake encounter case and neighbor's spy agency with a track record of terror acts completely absolved. The the Prime Minister of India did not once, once condemn the neighboring spy agency of using hit squads to take out an Indian Chieef Minister.

These cant be isolated events, there is definitely a connection which is not been put out and acknowledged in the public domain between the Pakistani political and military leaderships, some politicians and some media reporters in India.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 12 Jan 2015 17:02

Some of GAURAV C SAWANT @gauravcsawant tweets

- Pak 'suspect vessel' linked to terror. boatmen took cyanide it seems: @manoharparrikar to @KaranThapar_TTP on @HeadlinesToday. At 1730 Hrs
- confident suspect Pak boat was in touch with Pakistani security agencies: @manoharparrikar to @HeadlinesToday. Sources cant be compromised
- Intercept can be used to assume illicit operation.They spoke in code language. Cant compromise source. @manoharparrikar sets record straight
- Had coast guard hit boat, it would not have survived so far. post 26/11 at midnight cant ask coast guard to be too sure: @manoharparrikar
- I don't need conclusive proof to avert danger to my country. Cant take cameraman on board: @manoharparrikar to @HeadlinesToday. #Terrorboat
- Anywhere in the world, arms, drugs & terror are interlinked across Afghan-Pak-Indian border: @manoharparrikar nails it on @HeadlinesToday
- If IB wants to question Rajratan crew they can: @manoharparrikar (what a shame if IB wants to `interrogate' coast guard crew). Reward them
- If I may: My source (owe him a meal) gave me the full story on #terrorboat http://www.dailyo.in/opinion/five-reaso ... /1375.html …. @manoharparrikar confirms all points.

In seems Manohar Parrikar is showing a big middle finger (hyper-verbose language) to NewsTraders and ISI Indian sympathizes who want to know details of SoP/protocols/chain of command/operation tactics. I think case has came to its logical conclusion, till Pakis claim that so-and-so of our fishermen/smugglers/terrorists were killed by Indians.

A humble question Chacko sir. Who are those occupants in that boat? Are they aliens? Why cannot Pakistan fisher community is silent (if they are innocent fishermen). Why cannot Pakistan is not protesting, stating that ICG had destroyed one of its boat. Why there is pin-drop silence from Pak side?

RamSuresh · Post by **RamSuresh** » 12 Jan 2015 18:45

- I don't need conclusive proof to avert danger to my country. Cant take cameraman on board: @manoharparrikar to @HeadlinesToday. #Terrorboat

This is the best statement i have read in the last ten years

member_28652 · Post by **member_28652** » 12 Jan 2015 20:01

RamSuresh wrote:
- I don't need conclusive proof to avert danger to my country. Cant take cameraman on board: @manoharparrikar to @HeadlinesToday. #Terrorboat

This is the best statement i have read in the last ten years

Hear hear

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 12 Jan 2015 20:31

It is imperative for India to have a non-govt-owned media entity that resembles CNN and toes the govt line to a fault, even if it is completely obvious. It must be done now, while we have a BJP govt firmly in charge. India TV comes close but need an Inglish version too.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 12 Jan 2015 20:35

pankajs wrote:Possible, if you are worried about a cole like incident. You chase but maintain your distance while trying to figure out how to board and inspect the vessel. You would always be careful in boarding a vessel which is not cooperating.

If the CG vessel was fired upon then the task of boarding becomes even more difficult.

CG always maintains a safe distance from any boat that it is chasing or searching or stopping. If warned to stop and the intruder boat doesn't stop CG may fire warning shots across the bow even if chased vessel has not fired any. CG personnel would not board the boat unless all hands show on the deck and make sure that they lay down arms. Even then boarding is with arms in readiness.

IB has no authority to question CG not it has nay such mandate legally. They are equally part of MAC. If any criminal case is being made out then only the concerned police or NIA/CBI might file FIR and ask permission to question. They may not be given sanction to prosecute any. But the question is who's going to file FIR?? I assume only some congi Govt would do that?? Are they willing to risk that now that Central Govt is with NaMo.

In fact I suspect that all 13 occupants of the boat are with IB onlee. Boat was blown after it was cleaned out. they could not pass this info as Jammers from CG ship were active. Let Pakis claim them first . None of the fisherman families from pak has said any thing about their missing members of family.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 12 Jan 2015 21:10

kmkraoind wrote:Who are those occupants in that boat? Are they aliens? Why cannot Pakistan fisher community is silent (if they are innocent fishermen). Why cannot Pakistan is not protesting, stating that ICG had destroyed one of its boat. Why there is pin-drop silence from Pak side?

In medical practice - it is only the people who have an itch in the backside who come with complaints. Those who have no itch say nothing.

arshyam · Post by **arshyam** » 12 Jan 2015 22:20

chaanakya wrote:IB has no authority to question CG not it has nay such mandate legally. They are equally part of MAC. If any criminal case is being made out then only the concerned police or NIA/CBI might file FIR and ask permission to question. They may not be given sanction to prosecute any. But the question is who's going to file FIR?? I assume only some congi Govt would do that?? Are they willing to risk that now that Central Govt is with NaMo.

Chaanakya saar, I doubt the RM actually said he would allow IB to 'question' the CG personnel, i.e. like a criminal investigation. He probably meant an intelligence debriefing, which I understand is standard practice after an op, wherein IB/RAW folks will be present to understand the intelligence aspects of things. JMT and all that.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 13 Jan 2015 00:11

One interesting observation is that every time TSP launches a terror attack we on BRF lose some members who bat against India!!!!

But we gain many new members!!!!

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Jan 2015 00:52

ramana wrote:One interesting observation is that every time TSP launches a terror attack we on BRF lose some members who bat against India!!!!But we gain many new members!!!!

Pruning always makes the PhalaBriksh grow. Dead leaves and branches cause damage only. But this Terrorboatload to Yamlok incident have caused special Itch. Gaddars are not afraid and want to do Gaddari openly. This is mystery and will be interesting to find out the cause of Convoluted Cobresque Crooks' confidence and cockiness in confusing country & cut CoastGuard down.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Jan 2015 06:26

krishnan wrote: A CG boat chasing a fishing boat in open sea for 1 hr seems far fetched

It becomes less far fetched if one sees the issue as it was - an intruder boat being chased by a defender. When we introduce "classificatory terminology" like "coastal waters" and "open sea" and say that coastal waters boat should not have gone into open sea - it is (in my terminology) asshole-giri. Why is that so? That is because a fishing boat should equally not be in non-fishing areas and should visibly be a fishing boat. Susu for the goose should be susu for the gand(er) also.

The logic that a fishing boat is allowed to do anything and go anywhere but a coast guard boat must restrict itself to some random parameters is ludicrous.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 13 Jan 2015 06:34

krishnan wrote:

A CG boat chasing a fishing boat in open sea for 1 hr seems far fetched

How long is near-fetched, Krishnanji? 1 minute? (only some Coast Guard boats are hypersonic..) 5 minutes? 20 minutes? 40 minutes? 59 minutes?

What is the basis for your calculation?

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 13 Jan 2015 06:39

Has no one here heard the concept of "relative velocity"?

Here is a problem of "Dog and Rabbit chase" that illustrates pretty much why it takes an hour to "close the distance", look at section (2) on figuring out how to calculate the time taken to "close in" (applies to stuff like a hypersonic SAM closing in on supersonic plane etc):

http://arxiv.org/pdf/0711.3293.pdf

member_22605 · Post by **member_22605** » 13 Jan 2015 07:07

LokeshC ji, that's too much science for our chacko sir, he probably is a "social" science expert

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 13 Jan 2015 07:38

Well a high school kid will be able to solve eqn 8. That cab actually be used to estimate the boats speed if anyone's interested.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Jan 2015 08:11

LokeshC wrote:Well a high school kid will be able to solve eqn 8. That cab actually be used to estimate the boats speed if anyone's interested.

Need to word it right

Anita leaves on bus to Mumbai from Poona. Bus travels at 50 kmph

One hour later Mohan starts chasing Anita in a car and heads to Mumbai at 60 kmph

How long will it be before Mohan catches up with the bus?

Answer sheets:
Budding Journalist 1: Mohan must be a rapist to chase Anita.
Budding Journalist 2: What proof is there that Anita was on the bus?
Budding journalist 3: This test is rubbish. All this never happened.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 13 Jan 2015 08:44

BD4: The questioner is a hindutva communal. I don't have to answer anything. I deserve full marks.

partha · Post by **partha** » 13 Jan 2015 08:58

BD5: highly placed sources in Anita's family have told me exclusively that Anita was not on the bus.