Bharat Rakshak

RT may be looking towards becoming the Indian partner for the assembly of whichever MRCA is chosen. Tata's defense portfolio is growing, and getting the MRCA production partnership will be a big boost to their business.

I wish Tata would join with DRDO as the production partner for Arjun. I will distribute sweets the day it happens.

Ratan Tata is many things but he isnt suicidal. Any association with that gargantuam, cancereous, gangrene ridden corpse is to invite the stench of decay and years of running in ever dimishing circles.

Tata Power's SED has been working on electronics and software development programmes for large projects of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) since 1967. The SED began as a Reasearch and Development unit for Tata Electric Company to work on developing systems

Just goes to show your idiocy doesnt it?

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/200 ... 770300.htm




http://www.tpcsed.com/

Almost all the projects are DRDO ones.

SureshP, stick to talking about Pakis please. You seem to understand them well thinking as they do.

Ratan Tata isnt foolish enough to back a substantial part of his fortune and reputation on the DRDO. When "defence" is actually "liberalised" from the dead clawing grasp of the failing PSU's, like the DRDO, then it we may see Tatas come into thier own in military manofacture.

a) He did make most of that fortune by working with the even more "gangrenous" pre-liberalized version of Govt/PSUs. You are underestimating his skills by a wide-margin :)

b) DRDO a PSU?

Source: AWST March 13th 2000. Question: Can they do that in India ?

Nitin "Call me JC" , you are entitled to your pedagogic mind and views, as I am entitled to mine. I am WELL aware of TATA and its dealings with DRDO and fortunatly they remain a sideline, at best, on thier balance sheet. Ratan Tata isnt foolish enough to back a substantial part of his fortune and reputation on the DRDO.

When "defence" is actually "liberalised" from the dead clawing grasp of the failing PSU's, like the DRDO, then it we may see Tatas come into thier own in military manufacture.

By the way Nitin I am still reeling from your accounts a year ago about the Kaveri engine, the best thing since sliced bread. Its toasted up quite nice and tasted scrumpcious.

BTW make sure its not a decoy stall.

http://www.hindu.com/2007/02/09/stories/2007020903421100.htm * A standalone photograph captioned "The race is on: MiG MAGIC: A MiG-35 fighter jet, which was unveiled to the world by Russian Aircraft Corporation-MiG, shows its prowess at the Aero India show in Bangalore on Wednesday ... ." (February 8, 2007, page 1) led to confusion with a reader saying that it was a MiG-29OVT. Our Bangalore Bureau, quoting the Russian team at the airshow, clarifies that the aircraft in the picture is a MiG-29OVT. The Russians are using it to demonstrate what the capabilities of a MiG-35 with thrust vectoring will be like. This is because thrust vectoring is an option on the MiG-35.

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Photos of IJT Wreck from AI2007

http://media.bharat-rakshak.com/aero/main.php?g2_itemId=3187

News is that the canopy opened prematurely because of this the aircraft skidded of the runway. The aircraft is believed to be a write-off.

I read a inspiring early history of TISCO in TOI after the corus deal together with a couple of yellowed sepia photos. in jamshedpur (saktchi) they had a photo of bullock carts shipping the machinery in (kinda like Kalamji @ thumba on a bicycle and sounding rocket). one british railway satrap claimed he would eat ounces of indian steel if it ever rose to british std. yet Tisco it was who supplied the steel for howrah bridge. Tisco also didnt jack up its steel prices during the WW2 (decision by JRD).

also it seems figures like subhash chandra bose , Nehru and Rajendra Prasad were involved at various points to discuss labour unrest and resolve diffs. the last strike there was in 1928 J.N.T specifically instructed the township planners to leave lots of wide roads, trees and parks.

I would imagine J.N.T when he toured the US ohio and penn area to seek out steel technology would have been laughed at by the gora sahiblog and told to 'know his place' and go 'plough rice' .....

First get to the stall and introduce yourself. Maybe the folks manning it will reciprocate!

BTW make sure its not a decoy stall.

It seems that mega-Indian companies like BEL and HAL have had to do every thing by themselves - i.e. produce every single component "in house" rather than outsourcing to India industry for two reasons
1) Lack of expertise to do something outside
2) A tendency for the Government Public sector to keep all specs and requirements "secret" for security reasons.

It is possible that problem 2 has had a feedback effect on problem 1, aggravating it.

Jagan/BRAdmins:

Who is the person on the extreme right in this pic?
http://media.bharat-rakshak.com/aero/ma ... temId=3672
The same person is being facilitated here:
http://media.bharat-rakshak.com/aero/ma ... temId=3674

India: Aero India and the Future of India's Defense Industry
February 06, 2007 20 57 GMT

Summary

Yelahanka air force base will host the sixth biannual Aero India Aerospace and Defense Exhibition, set to begin Feb. 7. With more than 400 defense companies participating, this Aero India exhibition will be the largest yet -- a reminder of India's continuing rise as a military power.

Analysis

India is in the midst of a dramatic military modernization program that, in business terms, equates to billions of dollars in defense acquisitions. The sixth biannual Aero India Aerospace and Defense Exhibition, set to begin Feb. 7 at Yelahanka air force base, is an indication of the magnitude of India's military revamp. More than 400 companies are going to the exhibition in hopes of attracting Indian defense dollars.

And at no time is India more adept at trade than when multiple parties vie for its favor. Consider the ongoing competition for Indian attention between Washington and Moscow, which India is using to attempt to extract major nuclear concessions from both parties. On Dec. 18, 2006, U.S. President George W. Bush signed the Henry J. Hyde United States-India Peaceful Atomic Energy Cooperation Act. Getting the U.S. Congress to change existing laws on selling nuclear supplies to a nonsignatory of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty was a crucial step. Washington and New Delhi now are in negotiations to solidify the deal by drafting a binding treaty, dubbed the "123 agreement." On Jan. 25, Russian President Vladimir Putin countered the U.S. move by signing an agreement with New Delhi to build four new nuclear reactors in India.

Moscow and Washington's competition for New Delhi's attention extends to the defense sector. India is about to begin indigenous licensed construction of the Russian RD-33 thrust-vectoring engine, a definitive leap for Indian jet engine production (though India already produces the base R-33 engine for its existing MiG-29 fleet). The Moscow-based Chernyshev machine-building plant will supply 20 new 18,000-pound thrust RD-33 engines for trials at a cost of about $25 million. Then, under a $250 million deal with Rosobornexport and St. Petersburg-based Klimov, India's Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) will manufacture 120 RD-33 series 3 extended life cycle jet engines. For its part, Boeing Co. made an offer Feb. 3 that involves the joint development of the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, which has not yet been sold abroad.

But the F/A-18 and the MiG-35 (for which the RD-33 engine is built) are only two of the aircraft that will be on exhibit at Aero India. The U.S. F-16, Swedish SAAB Gripen, French Dassault Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon also will be among the designs. Along with the ongoing multirole fighter plane competition, India also is interested in helicopters -- a competition not to be underestimated, as the current head of the Indian air force is the first helicopter pilot to hold the office.

Meanwhile, India already is set to receive the MiG-35 carrier variant, the MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB, the two-seat trainer. The order could be for as many as 46 airframes if they are selected for fielding on India's new carrier, the INS Vikramaditya. The MiG-35 (the export version of the MiG-29) and the MiG-29K have high RD-33 engine compatibility that India would certainly consider when making future purchases.

But defense contractors will hardly limit themselves to what India thinks it needs. Boeing plans to bring a C-17 Globemaster III transport, for which export deliveries are in the works for the British, Canadian and Australian air forces. Boeing's arrangements with Canada in particular demonstrate the company's willingness to shift a portion of the production abroad in order to seal a deal. Not to be left out, Lockheed Martin will display the latest version of the C-130, the transport's "J" upgrade. The acquisition of either of these aircraft would dramatically increase India's airlift capacity.

Boeing also is set to display the P-8A Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft -- the replacement for the long-serving P-3 Orion. The new aircraft is based on 737-800ERX airframe but has yet to progress beyond the design phase.

Raytheon's booth also will include some hot ticket items. With the Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM) and its surface-launched counterpart on display, some of the U.S. Air Force's best assets could be in the offering.

Despite the outpouring of equipment and offers, India is just as interested in the degree of domestic production it can negotiate as it is in the platforms it can acquire. Though the acquisition stage of New Delhi's military modernization is important, India is building its defense industry for the future. The country's long-term goal is to design and build a world-class multirole fighter that can compete with the best the world has to offer.

HAL's extensive hands-on experience with older engines -- licensed production of the AL-55I for its indigenous jet trainer, engines for several generations of MiGs and Su-30MKI engines -- and Jaguar and Mirage 2000 overhauls and upgrades is significant. Although it had serious trouble with an indigenously designed engine for its light combat aircraft, HAL has at least a decade of extensive jet engine production experience. Coupled with hands-on production experience with RD-33 engines for the MiG-35s or the General Electric F414-GE-400 turbofans for the F/A-18E/F, this would give Indian designers an intimate understanding of some of the best jet engines on the market.

With the fielding of the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile (jointly developed with Russia) and the second test of its domestic atmospheric intercept system scheduled for June, India's current round of acquisitions should be seen as the latest development for an already robust Indian defense industry.

Pakistan can hardly be pleased. Already at a strategic disadvantage, Pakistan has a comparative lack of strategic depth and limited resources that keep it from being competitive with India. Nevertheless, if Pakistan can acquire new F-16s from the United States, it would help maintain the military balance -- for now. With continuing developments in India, Pakistan's need for the F-16s Washington has offered but not yet agreed to deliver will only increase -- they are the best Islamabad can hope for at the moment. Beijing's new J-10 fighter would be a good substitute, but not quite as good in terms of the technology, sensors or accompanying armaments (such as the AMRAAMs being dangled before New Delhi) as what Pakistan could negotiate with the United States.

Essentially, when the United States and Russia vie for India's favor, India wins. When the defense industry sniffs out large lucrative contracts, India wins. And when India wins, Pakistan loses.

For its part, Boeing Co. made an offer Feb. 3 that involves the joint development of the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, which has not yet been sold abroad.

Meanwhile, India already is set to receive the MiG-35 carrier variant, the MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB, the two-seat trainer. The order could be for as many as 46 airframes if they are selected for fielding on India's new carrier, the INS Vikramaditya. The MiG-35 (the export version of the MiG-29) and the MiG-29K have high RD-33 engine compatibility that India would certainly consider when making future purchases.

Jagan/BRAdmins:


The same person is being facilitated here:
http://media.bharat-rakshak.com/aero/ma ... temId=3674

Hi Guys
is this correct

A Mirage 2000 from the Wolfpacks
http://aeroindia.org/node/41

I thought only the Battle Axe and Tigers flew Mirage 2000.
and Wolfpacks flew the Mig-27

Is wolfpacks a mixed squadron ?

Jagan boss, any more infoboard updates?

The OFB one shows a brand new 125mm APFSDS round.

But the INSAS could do with much better finish, if they hope to export it they better understand what standards the world market aspires to.