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Mods can merge it with other thread but confirmation from rian.

Russia loses $600 mln Indian attack helicopter tender

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Russian Mi-28N Night Hunter has lost a tender on the delivery of 22 attack helicopters to the Indian military in strong competition with the American AH-64D Apache, an Indian Defense Ministry source said on Tuesday.

“We decided not to choose the Mi-28 for technical reasons. Our experts believe that the Mi-28N did not meet the requirements of the tender on 20 positions, while the Apache showed better performance,” the source said.

The future contract, worth at least $600 million, envisions an optional delivery of additional 22 helicopters.


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2011 17:44 
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This news is a perfect Diwali gift!

What sort of weapons package are we expecting? Hellfires and Aim 9s? I believe there is a tender open for Hellfires till Helina is operational. Apologies if this has been asked earlier but I have not been following the missile discussion for some time.


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2011 17:45 
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OK.........

Good enough.

Will the AH 64 be cleared to carry the HELINA when it becomes operational.

Or will India operate 3 3rd generation ATGMS fro its 3 helo platforms.


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2011 20:03 
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The future contract, worth at least $600 million, envisions an optional delivery of additional 22 helicopters.


We always keep our options open... :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2011 20:16 
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On second thoughts, I am against this project. This whole project needs to be cancelled and the pace of LCH development escalated. Please spare me the concept of a heavy and light assault chopper. You cannot decide where you are going to use them and hope that your enemies will oblige. You have to fight the war with what you have where you have it.

That said it makes not sense for this project to continue. It must be scrapped.


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2011 20:30 
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Block III?


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2011 21:21 
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Awesome news ! Apaches complemented by the Tigerbirds will be a fearsome gunship combo !


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2011 21:39 
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A huge weapons deal is also likely to be part of the deal..DSCA estimated the overall cost to be $1.4 billion..why only 12 AN/APG-78 FCRs though ?

DSCA press release on possible AH-64D Block III sale to India

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If the Government of India selects the Boeing-U.S. Army proposal, the Government of India will request a possible sale of 50 T700-GE-701D engines, 12 AN/APG-78 Fire Control Radars, 12 AN/APR-48A Radar Frequency Interferometers, 812 AGM-114L-3 HELLFIRE LONGBOW missiles, 542 AGM-114R-3 HELLFIRE II missiles, 245 STINGER Block I-92H missiles, and 23 Modernized Target Acquisition Designation Sight/Pilot Night Vision Sensors, rockets, training and dummy missiles, 30mm ammunition, transponders, simulators, global positioning system/inertial navigation systems, communication equipment, spare and repair parts; tools and test equipment, support equipment, repair and return support, personnel training and training equipment; publications and technical documentation, U.S. Government and contractor engineering and logistics support services; and other related elements of logistics support to be provided in conjunction with a proposed direct commercial sale of 22 AH-64D Block III APACHE Helicopters. The estimated cost is $1.4 billion.


542 of the Hellfire Longbow

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AGM-114L Longbow Hellfire

* Target: All armored threats
* Range: 8,000 m (8,749 yd)
* Guidance:
o Fire and forget Millimeter wave radar seeker coupled with Inertial guidance
o Homing capability in adverse weather and the presence of battlefield obscurants
* Warhead: 9 kg (20 lb) tandem shaped charge high explosive anti-tank (HEAT)
* Length: 176 cm (69.2 in)
* Weight: 49 kg (108 lb)


and 542 of the AGM-114R Hellfire II variant..here is an article I found on this particular variant of the Hellfire II.

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Lockheed Martin's AGM-114R HELLFIRE II Missile Accomplishes Successful First Flight
UNITED STATES - 27 OCTOBER 2009

ORLANDO, FL | Lockheed Martin's [NYSE: LMT] new multi-functional AGM-114R HELLFIRE II missile scored a direct hit during its first proof-of-principle (POP) flight test recently at Eglin Air Force Base, FL. The HELLFIRE II design, now entering the qualification phase, features a new multi-purpose warhead that enables a single missile to cover all of the target sets of the current laser-guided HELLFIRE II variants.

The POP 1 flight test featured a lock-on-before-launch engagement of a stationary target board at 3.2 miles (5.1 km). The team used a ground-based laser designator to illuminate the target. The inert missile, which was ground-launched, was equipped with an enhanced telemetry package. In addition to proving out the new components and software, the flight also verified backward compatibility with HELLFIRE II platforms that cannot provide targeting information to the missile.

"The multi-functional HELLFIRE II missile is one missile for many missions," said Ken Musculus, director of Air-to-Ground Missile Systems Programs at Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control. "Its multi-functional warhead enables the AGM-114R to neutralize a broad set of targets previously covered by four different warhead models - everything from armor and air defense systems to patrol boats and enemy combatants in SUVs or caves. Warfighters won't have to decide ahead of time what they might encounter and load the appropriate combination of missiles; with the multi-functional HELLFIRE II, they can meet many contingencies with a single missile."


Prior to the first POP flight test, Lockheed Martin completed a battery of warhead tests, including 10 precursor warhead tests, four main warhead tests and five tests of tandem warheads within the HELLFIRE guidance section. The next two POP flight tests, scheduled for early next year, will feature live warheads.

"This new HELLFIRE II can be fired from both rotary-wing and unmanned platforms," Musculus said. "A new inertial measurement unit enables properly equipped platforms to launch missiles at targets behind them without first having to turn the aircraft around. Getting the missile on target that much quicker gives the enemy less time to react or escape."
Musculus said many of the new improvements are software-driven. "We've replaced a host of circuit boards, transistors and other hardware components with software," he added. "Turning hardware into software contributes to the modular design of the missile and offers an efficient path to future upgrades."

With more than 25,000 rounds produced for the U.S. and 14 international customers, HELLFIRE II has been successfully integrated with attack helicopters in the U.S. and many Allied fleets. It is also capable of surface launch from ground vehicles, tripods and small vessels. More than 10,000 HELLFIRE missiles have been successfully fired in combat.
Lockheed Martin performs all work on behalf of the HELLFIRE Systems, Limited Liability Company and will produce the missiles at its manufacturing facilities in Troy, AL, and Ocala, FL.


All in all a fearsome addition to the anti-armour capabilities of the IA/IAF.


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2011 21:49 
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hopefully delivery will be before time in this case too :D


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2011 22:04 
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OMG

what will philip and sanku say???? :((


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44 of these would be good support up in the mountains. we cannot waste such valuable resources against the losers to the west.


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Pratyush wrote:
...Please spare me the concept of a heavy and light assault chopper... You cannot decide where you are going to use them...


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44 of these would be good support up in the mountains. we cannot waste such valuable resources against the losers to the west.


Wow! We are already seeing some confusion regarding which heli is going to be used where. I thought the general idea was to use the LCH in the mountains and the Apaches in the deserts??? Couldn't we just hand over the LCH to the army and the Apaches to the IAF?


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Surya wrote:
OMG

what will philip and sanku say???? :((


Conspiraceeeee onleeeeee :(( :(( :(( by the devious agents of zionism and capitalism...and Surya is their mahdi....I say jeeharrd on bhestern agents like surya....who is a closet jew and ahmediyya combined......AoA!!!


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2011 22:53 
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I'm sorry but this purchase makes no sense to me. Obviously the Apache is larger and carries more ordnance than the LCH. But the LCH has a higher service ceiling and is made in India and is a whole hell of a lot cheaper. What the hell are we going to do with 22 or even 44 helos? IA/IAF requirements are clearly much higher than that. What special role do these helos have that the LCH can't do. For these 22 choppers and weapons the bill is $ 1.4 billion. That's DRDO's budget for one year.

Inquiring minds would like to know.


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2011 23:13 
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These are the usual 22 + 44 optional buy kind of orders, atleast we will have soemthing that will arrive quickly. Obviously these birds are needed very quickly for our strike formations to be in the truest terms - IBGs. Looks like there is some perception of an upcoming conflict. Even the peace loving MMS govt is ordering arms


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tejas wrote:
I'm sorry but this purchase makes no sense to me. Obviously the Apache is larger and carries more ordnance than the LCH. But the LCH has a higher service ceiling and is made in India and is a whole hell of a lot cheaper. What the hell are we going to do with 22 or even 44 helos? IA/IAF requirements are clearly much higher than that. What special role do these helos have that the LCH can't do. For these 22 choppers and weapons the bill is $ 1.4 billion. That's DRDO's budget for one year.

Inquiring minds would like to know.



Specifications (AH-64A/D)
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Performance
Never exceed speed: 197 knots (227 mph, 365 km/h)
Maximum speed: 158 knots (182 mph, 293 km/h)
Cruise speed: 143 knots (165 mph, 265 km/h)
Range: 257 nmi (295 mi, 476 km) with Longbow radar mast
Combat radius: 260 nmi (300 mi, 480 km)
Ferry range: 1,024 nmi (1,180 mi, 1,900 km)
Service ceiling: 21,000 ft (6,400 m) minimum loaded
Rate of climb: 2,500 ft/min (12.7 m/s)
Disc loading: 9.80 lb/ft² (47.9 kg/m²)
Power/mass: 0.18 hp/lb (0.31 kW/kg)


Specifications (HAL LCH)
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Performance
Never exceed speed: 330 km/h (178 knots, 207 mph)
Maximum speed: 275 km/h (148 knots, 171 mph)
Cruise speed: 260 km/h (140 knots, 161 mph)
Range: 700km (297 nm, 342 mi)
Service ceiling: 6500 m (21,300 ft)
Rate of climb: 12 m/s (2362 ft/min)
Disc loading: 39.59 kg/m² (8.23 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 327 W/kg (0.198 hp/lb)


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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2011 01:20 
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suryag wrote:
Obviously these birds are needed very quickly for our strike formations to be in the truest terms - IBGs. Looks like there is some perception of an upcoming conflict. Even the peace loving MMS govt is ordering arms

Bingo. They are mission critical, same as C-130J and C-17

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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2011 02:31 
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^^^ ragdoll flight at 1:50.... phew


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^^^ ragdoll

Those are 30mm shells from the M230 chain gun and in non-infrared view, the heat waves from the explosions don't look quite so dramatic and lethal though of course, they are :eek:

Most of the kills were from a range where the choppers couldn't be heard.


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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2011 03:25 
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Singha wrote:
hopefully delivery will be before time in this case too :D

Yes Singhaji. It will surely be :)
What's the status with Adm. Gorshkov with all the escalation of costs?!


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going offtopic, but....

I assume despite not really aiming precise (due to being in a jittery copter) the shrap from each round shreds or disables the targets enough for a foot patrol later on to confirm the fate.....

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^^^ ragdoll

Most of the kills were from a range where the choppers couldn't be heard.


I think that was shot from a UAV or Kiowa type scout. Lots of shots, particularly the hellphyr types have a camera offset. Besides some of the cannon shots too seem to stray way too far.

But the one at 3:50 is funky. You see the cannon rounds come in from left as a hail of white spots. And then you see the camera vibrate during the firing. very curious for an APache :oops:


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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2011 04:22 
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Does anyone have comparison specs of LCH to Z19?


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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2011 06:03 
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the AH64D is IAFs way of retaining its gunship component after the Mi35s are phased out. and positioning itself as a strike element and 1-800 number when heavy opposition is met.

It must be remembered its the IA aviation corps that will take up huge nos of LCH and probably have a unit per corps , along with additional strike units. IA was asking unsuccessfully for transfer of Mi35 and logistical helis to its own control, failed to get IAFs nod and finally went ahead and ordered huge nos of Dhruv, WSI Dhruv and soon LCH and LOH.

I am not complaining as long as they line up and all fire in the general direction of the enemy, though any sensible AF outside India does not retain strike helis , only CSAR and utility ones.


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Oct, 2011 :: Lockheed Martin Awarded VNsight Sensor Production Contract for the Apache Helicopter


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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2011 06:11 
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April 2011 :: Block III Apache production begins

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The ‘next generation’ aircraft will have a stronger engine, improved avionics, a better computer networking capability, and increased manoeuvrability.

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The Block III Apache features a 701D engine, composite rotor blades, improved networking and communications avionics, and an improved drive system. When radar-equipped it is named the AH-64 Apache Longbow.


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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2011 06:14 
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apache has a bewildering array of sensors and avionics. probably take us a day of reading just to skim through a list.


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Nice vid

(and you may just see an Indian aganet in there. :wink:. Man these Indians ....................)


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Victor wrote:
hnair wrote:
^^^ ragdoll

Those are 30mm shells from the M230 chain gun and in non-infrared view, the heat waves from the explosions don't look quite so dramatic and lethal though of course, they are :eek:

Most of the kills were from a range where the choppers couldn't be heard.

For the uninitiated, what is this range? Would this range be far enough for the enemy to not see?

The clarity/resolution in their displays is amazing.


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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2011 07:39 
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Although, this is the first real offensive system bought from Amirkhan...


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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2011 08:01 
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Ashwin B wrote:
Victor wrote:
Most of the kills were from a range where the choppers couldn't be heard.

For the uninitiated, what is this range? Would this range be far enough for the enemy to not see?

The "effective range" of the chain gun is roughly one mile. Although it can do damage at greater ranges, for all practical purposes that's the range at which the trajectory of the shells can be controlled properly (aimed) and still do some damage.

At that range we most likely won't hear a helicopter, specially if it enters a hover using silencer technology on the rotor blades. Some helos are barely audible even when they fly directly over us. Many inner city hospitals use them to meet noise codes. At a mile range, a hovering helo will also be practically invisible, specially if it is in a stationary hover.

In a populated area with visual restrictions and background noises, a stealthy helo attack could be carried out from much closer.


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Nowhere to hide - part 2 Apache footage with cannon audio.


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Challenges of Urban Warfare

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Instead, maintaining a high altitude allows pilots to avoid many of the urban combat threats. Staying above 500 feet enables pilots to avoid wires and power lines; above 1,500 feet, RPGs; and above 3,000 feet, small arms and light machine gun fire.

Fighting in an urban environment increases the need to carry out nighttime operations because insurgents often use nighttime maneuver for cover. Also, urban combat can involve operating in smokey environments caused by the enemy purposively setting fires to provide a smoke-filled veil or as a result of fires started in buildings from weapons.

As a result, the US military realized that helicopter pilots need the ability to see and target at a distance, through smoke and obscurants, and at night.


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To provide these capabilities, the Army turned to Lockheed Martin to develop the Arrowhead sensor system. Arrowhead – also known as the Modernized Target Acquisition Designation Sight/ Pilot Night Vision System (M-TADS/PNVS) – is an electro-optical and fire control system that the Boeing-built AH-64 Apache helicopter pilots use for combat targeting of their Hellfire missiles and other weapons, as well as flying in day, night, or bad weather missions


The Arrowhead Advantage

VNsight and Pathfinder


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and dont forget most of these attacks are at night. on moon nights they likely fly keeping the moon in front to avoid being silhouetted.

due to heavy use in iraq and afghanistan they seem to have invested a lot in sensor and avionic upgrades, perhaps more so than any other platform except the national bird which is the favoured and pampered munna.


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Simple pooch from the uninitiated: what are these birds for?

I don't think we seriously anticipate any more Paki armoured thrusts into Punjab or Rajasthan, do we? Neither are the Chinese likely to bring armour in any serious quantities to an invasion of Tawang; they will rely on softening up by 2nd artillery followed by swift, massive infantry strikes.

The only use I can think of for AH64s is to chew up Pakistani Al-Khalis on their own soil, in a Cold Start type scenario. Maybe to deploy against Chinese armour in Aksai Chin or on the Tibetan Plateau :eek: but I'm not sure they can even carry much ordinance, or hover, at those altitudes.


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Did you read excerpts of Condi's bio?

Its useful baksheesh.

Buying teens would have been useless baksheesh.


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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2011 08:54 
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Globemasters and Hercules are useful baksheesh. This $600 MM might have been better spent on the LCH program, or even on improving airfields and infra in the NE. We aren't going to invade Pakistan beyond a CS type deal, and if I'm not wrong, we have everything we need to effect that already.


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Attack helicopters are extremely important from the IBG point of view. Positioning of gunships forward - they are based in Suratgarh and Pathankot - gives lot of flexibility to the Pivot Corps. They can a pivotal role in any offensive as well as ensuring that PA armor does not break through.

It is important that LCH comes to AAC. Combined with WSI-Dhruv, they will provide the much needed firepower and flexibility to the Pivot Corps. If LCH makes it to AAC, I expect composite air brigades at Corps level with mix of Rudra and LCH. Most of the Corps have R&O Squadron - combining this along with 1xRudra+1xLCH will form the composite aviation bde. Apaches, IMO, will form the big brother to LCH/Rudra. For example, a good concentration of Apaches/LCH is a must for a sector like Chicken's neck to prevent the break-out of ARN.


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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2011 10:02 
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If this is baksheesh, I'd ask who is getting it--us or them? Bottom line, we are fortunate to be able to have this technology against the pakis and chinese who won't get it for any amount of money. Like the C-130J and C-17, I think this purchase meets a very specific and urgent mission profile, in this case centering around the one-of-a-kind sensors and Hellfire II, and one the LCH won't be ready for no matter how much money we throw at it.


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So, what is the package we are getting without signing the CISMOA and End user agreements? I don't want this to be another stage show where after investing money, unkill men flydown to remove the parts.


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I am sure this deal comes with initial training of tactics as well as excersizes with their air corps later on. Air armor (during the dash to Baghdad) as well as nighttime boar-hunting has been fine tuned for this machine. That sort of thing is valuable, as till date we have been using another class of machines of another era (Mi25).

what is the scout/spotter going to be? Rudra?


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