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Cross post from the mil aviation thread..
Vishal Jolapara wrote:The PLAAF JH-7 just moments before its crash
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Is it just me or is this bird eerily similar to the Jaguar aircraft??
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Slightly, wont stay its a total Chinese style rip off
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Bala Vignesh wrote:Cross post from the mil aviation thread..
Vishal Jolapara wrote:The PLAAF JH-7 just moments before its crash
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Is it just me or is this bird eerily similar to the Jaguar aircraft??
Interesting question. I don't think there is great similarity, but all aircraft of a particular era with similar roles ended up looking somewhat similar because they incorporated what was thought in that era to be the best for that role...except that China came up with that design 20 years after it had been flying

Other somewhat similar aircraft are

BAC TSR-2
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North American Vigilante
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Shiv sir,
while what you have said holds true for the jaguar and the above 2 aircrafts, which were designed in the same time frame, the JH-7 is much later after the jaguar, which is the youngest of above three aircrafts.
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Bala Vignesh wrote:Shiv sir,
while what you have said holds true for the jaguar and the above 2 aircrafts, which were designed in the same time frame, the JH-7 is much later after the jaguar, which is the youngest of above three aircrafts.
True - but in terms of physical resemblance the Jaguar has a very characteristic side profile where the tail is seen to extend well behind the exhaust pipe. That difference is immediately noticeable in the side view of the JH-7, which is why I think the JH-7 looks much more like the other aircraft whose pics I posted.
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Imho Jaguar tail layout is very similar to that of F-4 Phantom.
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Chinese ACs as usual have followed Ru Ac design i.e. started with simple cylinder shape of Mig-21 (F-7s) then followed by Mig-23/27 like dabba design (rectangular X-section and box intakes with large splitter plates) as a matter of coincidence (if one may say so) JH-7 too is a fighter-bomber like Su-24/Mig-27 (looks like variable geometry wing was kind of difficult to reverse engineer in time :twisted: ) and obviously the current pack is a xerox copy+photoshop of the Su-27 layout. :mrgreen:
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Of course, but if you look at the shape of the air intakes, the gun placement, the landing gear and the overwing pylon(saw a pic with such a possibility), it seems to me that it is a rip off of the Jaguar.
JMO.
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Bala Vignesh wrote:Of course, but if you look at the shape of the air intakes, the gun placement, the landing gear and the overwing pylon(saw a pic with such a possibility), it seems to me that it is a rip off of the Jaguar.
JMO.
Well I guess the front half does have the similarities you say and I find it piskologically interesting that I choose to identify the Jaguar by its musharraf
Bala Vignesh wrote:Cross post from the mil aviation thread..
Vishal Jolapara wrote:The PLAAF JH-7 just moments before its crash
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Is it just me or is this bird eerily similar to the Jaguar aircraft??
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^^
Update @2.49PM: A PAF JF-17 crashed in Attock, Pakistan today, killing its pilot Sqn Ldr Muhammad Hussain. R.I.P. (Screen-grab / Khalid Khan)

http://livefist.blogspot.com/2011/11/fi ... -says.html
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anishns wrote:Image

:mrgreen:
thunder the bandhar :rotfl: :(( :mrgreen: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Is this the first crash of the Thunder?
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Considering that they lost a man too, we should refrain from expressing emotions that maybe mis-interpreted.
While I am happy to see a dent in the marketing attempts of the JF-17, there is a sadder angle for them in this.
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Khalsa wrote:Considering that they lost a man too, we should refrain from expressing emotions that maybe mis-interpreted.
While I am happy to see a dent in the marketing attempts of the JF-17, there is a sadder angle for them in this.
^^dated 26th November 2011
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Shiv
Your point ?
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Khalsa wrote:Shiv
Your point ?
My reply is here
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 9#p1201239
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which is the aircraft that flies as part of the bandits in the climax of top gun ?
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suryag wrote:which is the aircraft that flies as part of the bandits in the climax of top gun ?
The aircraft used for the fictional MiG-28s are Northrop F-5E (single seat) and F-5F (two seat) Tiger IIs, flown by pilots of VFC-13 aggressor squadron USAF top gun
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Actually its USN not USAF..
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identify the aircraft flying above the AEW.
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Mirage 2000c?
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Rahul M wrote:identify the aircraft flying above the AEW.
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Embraer used hawker hunter for chasing
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i can see tailfins. mirage 2k dont have them. i think its f-5. look at the image below. its somewhat similar.
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hawker hunter also seems unlikely. its frontal vertical tail shape is curved whereas the one in pic looks much squarish.
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Nope its hawker hunter...

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Chile--- ... 6e546ba55f
Last official flight for Chilean Air Force, was then sold to EMBRAER and registered PP-XHH.(Scanned from picture).
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but then tailfin indeed look odd...It is F5...

Terribly sorry for dillydallying...its F5...http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... rs-355422/

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Lockheed T-33 Shooting Star. Check the wingtips.
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AT-26 Xavante

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at last. it's an aermachhi MB-326 made under license.

Ajit, I first thought it was a shooting star as well, because of the wing tip tanks. but brazil hasn't operated one.
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Checked the Brazilian Airforce Site in wiki it says they did operate the TF33, also the TF33 site does show Brazil as one of the operators.

I too would agree that it does look like MB 326, if you look at the tail also which is a lot squarer than the TF 33. But the aircraft in picture looks a lot slimmer and the nose looks sharper, may be its my eyes. :D
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The Shooting Star was phased out from Brazilian AF service in the 70s. It is an ancient aircraft. The one in the pic is definitely an MB-326 (or whatever the Brazilians call it).
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manum wrote:Nope its hawker hunter...

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Chile--- ... 6e546ba55f
Last official flight for Chilean Air Force, was then sold to EMBRAER and registered PP-XHH.(Scanned from picture).
Couldn't have been a Hunter, the tail plane is much higher on the Hunter than its on the bird in picture..
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Rahul M wrote:identify the aircraft flying above the AEW.
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The first name that came to my mind on seeing that photo was Soko Galeb of Yugoslavia. But that is wrong in any case. I am sure it is the Embraer Xavante version of the Aermacchi trainer as pointed out above. I did not know of the existence of the Xavante. Some of these trainers look very similar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soko_G-2_Galeb
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Just read about a site - http://jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?regsearch=VT-SMI

Notice the destinations - India, Italy, Australia, Switzerland, UK, France, etc.

Perhaps searching by unique plane ID.
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what missiles are these
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Image ... 9.jpg.html

I'm guessing one is aamram
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The one on the wingtip is the AMRAAM, and the one on the outer wing pylon seems to be a dummy weight for Sidewinder or its some kind of sensor..
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can anybody identify this bird
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VinayG wrote:Image

can anybody identify this bird

Ilyushin Il-22 Bizon
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