Indian Interests

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 22 Nov 2011 14:54

First post's editorial baord is consistently opposed to Amul Baba.

The question is what is is that the board is seeking. Why are they so opposed to him.

The problem with Rahul Gandhi: Why the good prince isn’t good enough

Prabu · Post by **Prabu** » 22 Nov 2011 16:57

Pratyush wrote:First post's editorial baord is consistently opposed to Amul Baba.

The question is what is is that the board is seeking. Why are they so opposed to him.

The problem with Rahul Gandhi: Why the good prince isn’t good enough

After reading all the News summary's, one gets a feeling that, he gets what he desrves ! He needs to demonstrate some LEADERSHIP quality, should have some FIRM views on popular issues (whether right or wrong is next question).

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Nov 2011 01:10

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15736508
Why India is at a crucial crossroads
Sunil Khilnani

For India's founders, political freedom was their great prize. Yet decades on, what that freedom has delivered measures up poorly for many. For India's business elites eager to compete with China, for the middle classes fed up with corruption, for radical intellectuals, for desperate citizens who have taken up arms against the state - democracy in India is a story of unravelling illusions.Democratic politics itself has come to be seen as impeding the decisive action needed to expand economic possibilities.In a society of swiftly inflating expectations, where old deference crumbles before youthful impatience, frustration with democracy is perhaps not surprising.The citizenry's ire expresses perhaps instinctively something that India's government, caught in inertial routines, is in danger of missing. Societies are at their most vulnerable when things are improving - not when they are stagnant.politics Democracy, the distinctive source of modern India's legitimacy has, to many, become an agent of the country's ills - and drives some to put their hope in technocratic fixes. India requires renewed political imagination to head off disaffection Today, in many parts of the country, the identity wars that engulfed India during the 1990s - when religion and caste advanced as the basis of claims to special privileges - seem to have played themselves out. The conventional view is that India's economic surge has stilled those fights. And although there is some truth in that explanation, it's too partial. It doesn't address, for instance, why one of India's most-developed and fast-growing states, the calendar girl of big business - Gujarat - is also the purveyor of India's most chauvinistic and poisonous politics. In fact, what has - at least for an interval - calmed such conflicts has been the workings, however rickety, of democratic politics. It's the capacity of India's representative democracy to articulate - and even to incite - India's diversity, to give voice to differing interests and ideas of self, rather than merely to aggregate common identities, that has saved India from the civil conflict and auto-destruction typical of so many other states. Consider for a start the ragged history of India's regional neighbourhood: though populated by smaller and more homogenous states, their desire to impose a common identity has broken them down.What has protected India from such a fate is not any innate Indian virtue or cultural uniqueness

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It's imperative for India's economic future that the global disaffection with market capitalism doesn't take wider hold in the country. Most people in India remain hopeful that their turn will come. Yet, as events of recent weeks have reminded us, tolerance for disparities, for inequality, can shift very suddenly.
In India's case, just as six decades and more of democracy have broken down age-old structures of deference and released a new defiant energy, so too years of rapid but uneven growth may quite abruptly dismantle the intricate self-deceptions that have so far kept India's grotesque disparities protected from mass protest.
As the Indian political classes exercise their populist instincts, corporate India, heady with new opulence, lately comports itself like a well-plumed sitting duck. Without renewed political imagination and judgement, the disaffection and alienation of those who are being left out or actively dispossessed by rapid growth could change the course of India's history.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 23 Nov 2011 01:58

Prem.

Khilnani wrote: Democratic politics itself has come to be seen as impeding the decisive action needed to expand economic possibilities.In a society of swiftly inflating expectations, where old deference crumbles before youthful impatience, frustration with democracy is perhaps not surprising.The citizenry's ire expresses perhaps instinctively something that India's government, caught in inertial routines, is in danger of missing. Societies are at their most vulnerable when things are improving - not when they are stagnant.politics Democracy, the distinctive source of modern India's legitimacy has, to many, become an agent of the country's ills - and drives some to put their hope in technocratic fixes. India requires renewed political imagination to head off disaffection ....

Nothing less is expected of a psec evangelist. One pointer is his descriptor for Gujarat! The fault is with the model of 'democracy' that the INC under the Nehru-Gandhi family managed. Its really the old Iqatadari system of spolis for supporters. Its not a democracy but really competetive authoritarianism. Its a democracy in the sense that there is voting, electorate/selcetorate and all that but no true representation of interests.
In other words its not democracy that is being challenged but the model of competetive authoritarianism that the INC stands for that is being challenged.

The big business is disgusted that even after taking the loot the INC is not delivering due to the stasis at the top and dual power centers. The Sensex is tanking.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Nov 2011 02:21

He is right about India needing new political imagination . The Resident Super Secularist (RSS/PSers) need to go as B sir said, ideological mooring is required and it cant be provided by current dispensation being not connected to Indics and imposing manufactured identities, creating divisons and then exploiting them for political purpose. They have created "Aimless India "on top instead of identifying , qualifying and achieving Indian National and civilizational Aims. Their reaction to Ann, RD and others is pointer to the compromised leadership doing miminum to carry on the facade. Change cant be stopped but cost of it will keep accelrating by the day.

Prabu · Post by **Prabu** » 23 Nov 2011 19:20

India, UAE to sign agreements on exchange of prisoners, security

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 24 Nov 2011 01:17

ramana wrote:Prem.
Khilnani wrote: Democratic politics itself has come to be seen as impeding the decisive action needed to expand economic possibilities.In a society of swiftly inflating expectations, where old deference crumbles before youthful impatience, frustration with democracy is perhaps not surprising.The citizenry's ire expresses perhaps instinctively something that India's government, caught in inertial routines, is in danger of missing. Societies are at their most vulnerable when things are improving - not when they are stagnant.politics Democracy, the distinctive source of modern India's legitimacy has, to many, become an agent of the country's ills - and drives some to put their hope in technocratic fixes. India requires renewed political imagination to head off disaffection ....

Nothing less is expected of a psec evangelist. One pointer is his descriptor for Gujarat! The fault is with the model of 'democracy' that the INC under the Nehru-Gandhi family managed. Its really the old Iqatadari system of spolis for supporters. Its not a democracy but really competetive authoritarianism. Its a democracy in the sense that there is voting, electorate/selcetorate and all that but no true representation of interests.

Western sociaology paradigm when applied to India can be very dangerous as shown by this article. Massive control of the media for the last 25 year and control of terms of the political debate can completely skew the society. Western BS is pumpped inside India and these things have to be purged

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 24 Nov 2011 01:18

Prem wrote:He is right about India needing new political imagination . The Resident Super Secularist (RSS/PSers) need to go as B sir said, ideological mooring is required and it cant be provided by current dispensation being not connected to Indics and imposing manufactured identities, creating divisons and then exploiting them for political purpose. They have created "Aimless India "on top instead of identifying , qualifying and achieving Indian National and civilizational Aims. Their reaction to Ann, RD and others is pointer to the compromised leadership doing miminum to carry on the facade. Change cant be stopped but cost of it will keep accelrating by the day.

All the western media control has created this fake system which needs to purged

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 24 Nov 2011 03:13

Khalsa heritage memorial promises a visual delight
Vandana Shukla/TNS

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2011/20111124/main7.htm

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 24 Nov 2011 10:37

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/bcb55f14 ... z1eb0lh4xL
Too many chiefs will wreck India’s dreams of greatness

An act of partition is redrawing India’s political geography more than 60 years after Pakistan was split out of British India. The move this week to carve up India’s most populous state is a reminder that the contours of the world’s largest democracy are a work in progress. Its 28 states are protean enough to divide and subdivide along ethnic, linguistic and social lines to keep India inward-looking for decades to come. Why not 52 states?Should New Delhi approve the division, India will take a step closer to a patchwork akin to Lord Curzon’s time and away from the purposeful centrality required to be a global superpower.Just when India could be standing tall amid the wreckage of the global economy, retreat of Europe and rising tensions between Beijing and Washington, Manmohan Singh, the prime minister, is powerless at the centre of a political quagmire.
India’s federal structures are paralysed. Down the line it needs to rewrite its constitution to either give more power to the centre or to the states, or introduce a more unitary set up under a presidential system. Some now fear the ebb of power from the centre to people outside the orthodox political framework.In spite of its internal ructions, India, a country of 1.2bn people, has defied a break-up predicted ever since the end of British rule in 1947. The states of Kashmir, Arunachal Pradesh and Tamil Nadu sit uneasily in the union. Maoists hold sway across much of the central belt.Yet India is Balkanising. Andhra Pradesh, a southern state of 80m people, has asked New Delhi for approval to split to form a new state called Telangana. At least nine other regions are seeking statehood.Some of India’s most dynamic leaders are in state capitals, including Narendra Modi of Gujarat or Mamata Banerjee in West Bengal. Their counterparts in New Delhi, by comparison, are timid drifters.
Ms Mayawati goes to voters with the promise of new lands, new capitals, new bureaucracies and new leaders. Mr Gandhi’s reply is to warn that India’s Hindi heartland is under a “jungle raj” that makes beggars of its people. He will have a tough job to persuade that Delhi’s non-functioning democracy under family rule is any different.India’s disputatious polity is close to ungovernable. It sends a clear signal to the world that India is a nation of chieftains, rather than a chief of nations.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 24 Nov 2011 11:52

False and fake history propagated in the above article.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 25 Nov 2011 07:45

UP polls near, PMO pushes move for OBC Muslim quota

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 25 Nov 2011 22:01

X-post....

Pratyush wrote:
ramana wrote:
Not true. These guys were specially chosen by the UPSC system and in case a jingo got in the interview process eliminated them. Most of those selected before 1963 were interviewed by JLN. So particular mindset were chosen. The idea is to create a corps of diplomutts that will toe the JLN line about syncretic India that was Bharat and to pooh pooh any idea of a resurgent India in order to avoid Western fears. Invariably when a new country emerged it was resurgent and expansionist. So JLN ensured that a neutered image of India and Indian mind frame wrapped in his aura that is difficult to shatter.
Saar,

Some times being cryptic, has its perils. You have explained in one para what I wanted to say in one line.

Looking at B Raman's style of writing, the numerous Gujarat police officers who are on a mission or rather a crusade against the Hindus, look like the IPS is completely secularised via UPSC selection. Time and again IPS or Ex IPS are showing up as civli society rallying points to provide procedural opposition to the opposition. Would be a good exercise to list key opposition to BJP/NDA politicians and how many were against the INC.

And take the fact that most intel agencies are full of IPS types how do we know that group think and politicization has not led to the past intelligence failures since 1962?
Mullick etc.

Was Kargil missed by these secular warriors to get ABV?

This aspect is not probed as they are the very subject matter experts on intelligence!

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 25 Nov 2011 22:18

Must watch video

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 25 Nov 2011 22:31

ramana wrote:X-post....
Pratyush wrote:quote="ramana"]

Not true. These guys were specially chosen by the UPSC system and in case a jingo got in the interview process eliminated them. Most of those selected before 1963 were interviewed by JLN. So particular mindset were chosen. The idea is to create a corps of diplomutts that will toe the JLN line about syncretic India that was Bharat and to pooh pooh any idea of a resurgent India in order to avoid Western fears. Invariably when a new country emerged it was resurgent and expansionist. So JLN ensured that a neutered image of India and Indian mind frame wrapped in his aura that is difficult to shatter.quote]

Saar,

Some times being cryptic, has its perils. You have explained in one para what I wanted to say in one line.

Looking at B Raman's style of writing, the numerous Gujarat police officers who are on a mission or rather a crusade against the Hindus, look like the IPS is completely secularised via UPSC selection. Time and again IPS or Ex IPS are showing up as civli society rallying points to provide procedural opposition to the opposition. Would be a good exercise to list key opposition to BJP/NDA politicians and how many were against the INC.

And take the fact that most intel agencies are full of IPS types how do we know that group think and politicization has not led to the past intelligence failures since 1962?
Mullick etc.

Was Kargil missed by these secular warriors to get ABV?

This aspect is not probed as they are the very subject matter experts on intelligence!

for 2 generations IPS, IAS and IFS have been eating out of INC hands, don't you think for the INC to rule so long(even though corrupt) they would need 3 things, control of beauracracy, control of education system, control of mass media (news,entertainment and movies- I somtimes see ideology being peddled in Discovery and National Geographic).

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 25 Nov 2011 23:33

Aditya_V wrote:
for 2 generations IPS, IAS and IFS have been eating out of INC hands, don't you think for the INC to rule so long(even though corrupt) they would need 3 things, control of beauracracy, control of education system, control of mass media (news,entertainment and movies- I somtimes see ideology being peddled in Discovery and National Geographic).

And the dynasty have been a spectacular success in controlling India so far. I think given their long rule, people have lapped up their propaganda to the extent that they have come to see it as the natural way. Look at bollywood, it is a great salesman of 'secularism'. The dialogues and lyrics are in the urduised hindi. So, all the choke points of the society were in their grip.

In the last 2 decades, their grip seems to be loosening, and therefore there seems to be an overdrive. All the nodes seem to be activated...media, babus, party, NGOs, 'eminent' historians. Even the maoists seem to prefer the dynasty to the lotus party. Bollywood is churning out MNIK, New York and Khurban.

The changes that have lead to loosening of the grip are:
rise of educated, rooted and ambitious middle class.
And, the ram janma bhoomi movement that catapulted the lotus party on to the national stage.

Also, since the dynasty has passed into the foreign hands, it seems to have lost all connection from the masses and has become increasingly dependent on the cotorie of amatyas. Of course, the amatyas have to be lightweights, so as not to threaten the dynasty. It is amazing that all leaders with mass following, who can replace the dynasty, seem to have suffered sudden death...Scindia, Pilot, and YSR. That may be co-incidence. Anyway, since the amatyas are lightweight, they cannot rally the mass support. Scion of dynasty also failed, so far. UP elections seem to be the super-over that will decide his fate. So, with a weak ruler and weak amatyas, they are not in good position. Further, they have been caught naked while indulging in mega scams. They cant hope to win, unless they can do something else. This is where breaking the state/s or brazen appeasement comes into picture.

Edit: forgot to mention the US crusade against the jihadis. It was another development that went against the 'secular' propaganda. US pr blitz against the jihadis defeated the 'secular' brigade.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 26 Nov 2011 02:19

there is no point in wallowing about INC's "dominance" anymore. we cannot change how INC thinks and works. it's too late for that. that era is long gone when INC could have been molded into something different. my fervent prayer is that INC, in a combination of its dynastic paranoia and ideological blinds, will destroy as many of the fifth column "leaders" that it has created and also be as weakened as possible by the very elements (Islamist, EJ'ism) that it has given shelter to.

Jupiter's 90-year cycle shows that the next 25 years will be about INC slowly arranging the bricks and mortar in ways which will eventually decimate it.....I pray and welcome it, although INC won't go out without a struggle. it will unleash its chimeras on the nation, unless the dynasty feels "patriotically" compelled, having seen the writing on the wall, to "give up"...

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 27 Nov 2011 07:38

My Days in Tihar Ashram: Sudheendra Kulkarni

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 27 Nov 2011 08:33

Government's clarification on Friday that multi-brand foreign retailers are not required to source 30% of their procurements from Indian small and medium enterprises has surprised some members of the Union Cabinet who approved the decision.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/busi ... 886461.cms

First of all 30% is very low, and now they are saying that foreign retailers can have 100% Cheeni maal. This is going to be a disaster for small manufacturers in India, who as it is are crippled by back-breaking corruption, inspector Raj and wretched infrastructure.

Ah well, the EVM-enabled Sarkar. Any idea what the duties are for imported knick-knacks?

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 27 Nov 2011 09:24

^^^

WRT, FDI in retail, the good have to be sourced from India 100%. Any thing less is an export of Indian wealth. No issues in a businessman earning profits in India. But exporting Indian wealth is unacceptable.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 27 Nov 2011 13:20

Selling India's retail wholesale

http://expressbuzz.com/finance/business ... 37135.html

Corporate and multinational lobbying to induct FDI in retail, branding it as “big ticket reform”, has been intense in the last few years. The lobbies have won. India has lost. The decision betrays a metropolitan bias; and exposes lack of understanding of India’s agricultural and rural economy. That it will endlessly damage the huge 1.2 million strong community-run retail business in India is undisputed. But the less known truth is that it will destroy food security in rural India. How? Read on.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 27 Nov 2011 13:43

My 2 sikke
from another thread

Is the word 'international' super perfect?

Chinese books are opaque, Indian system is corrupt, tech from the west has lead on desi techs. et cetra.

So how do desi supermarkets & local unorganized mom n pop stores compete with these international-therefore-passed-off-as-fair competition?

If tomorrow the current system, however it is, is replaced by the new one with global sourcing and global profiteering, jobs created here and job loss not calibrated/measured; can the learned people suggest how to 'correct' any situations if the global conglomerates form cartels, aka OIC for oil but in India for retail?

How are people to ensure continuous retail scenario in such a case of retail blackmailing when the local industry is ignored for cheaper 'international' trash, the logistics are in the machines and globalized after the intermediate price rise, shops bought by conglomerates and loss of skills?

Why can't these global conglomerates compete in India on Indian terms?

Adding up debt and international regulations because of this could also be informative.

If the problem of rotting foodstuff is coupled with opening up retail, there is a mismatch - according to me.

There was also this issue of commodities getting wasted but with inclusion of huge Air Conditioned storage houses, there is still hoarding and prices of commodities have actually spiraled. The ones doing global work are more likely to buy these expensive ones.

What happens if few could buy these foodstuffs in the face of increasing inflation? What is the guarantee that foodstuffs won't rot during global retail?

The red tape and absence of vision about reducing loss, with or without global retail, is costing the country dearly.

Just adding to this:
The Govt should open up storage facilities that makes available goods to local supply chains, so that there is no problems of in predatory tactics.

sanjeevpunj · Post by **sanjeevpunj** » 27 Nov 2011 21:00

Altair wrote:

Must watch video

Interesting, thanks for posting.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 27 Nov 2011 23:25

On brainwashing and of Indian interests :
http://www.hindustantimes.com/Entertain ... 74655.aspx

Vatican’s chief exorcist has claimed that practicing yoga and reading ‘Harry Potter’ brings evil. Father Gabriel Amorth, who has carried out more than 70,000 exorcisms in the past 25 years after being appointed by the late Pope John Paul II, surprised delegates at a conference by revealing his
dislike for yoga and ‘Harry Potter’.

Yoga“Practising yoga brings evil as does reading Harry Potter. They may both seem innocuous but they both deal with magic and that leads to evil,” the Daily Mail quoted him as saying.

“Yoga is the Devil’s work. You thing you are doing it for stretching your mind and body but it leads to Hinduism. All these oriental religions are based on the false belief of reincarnation,” he said.

Speaking on the subject of People And Religion at a fringe event at the Umbria Film Festival in Terni, Father Amorth spoke of his distaste for JK Rowling’s young wizard.

Harry Potter“People think it is an innocuous book for children but it’s about magic and that leads to evil. In Harry Potter the Devil is at work in a cunning and crafty way, he is using his extraordinary powers of magic and evil,” he said.

“Satan is always hidden and the thing he desires more than anything is for people to believe he does not exist. He studies each and everyone of us and our tendencies towards good and evil and then he tempts us.

“My advice to young people would be to watch out for nightclubs because the path is always the same: alcohol, sex, drugs and Satanic sects,” he added.

Aha - but then what about the significance of "wine" in Eucharist! Even if some pussyfooting on the level of compromises on alcohol content for alcoholics!

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 27 Nov 2011 23:58

Didnt jesus drink wine in last supper?

Maybe jesus is fictious. Maybe gospels are buddhist propaganda.

Anyway, its good to know that yoga is causing takleef. The seed planted by Swami Vivekananda has successfully sprouted.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 28 Nov 2011 00:00

Btw, is that 'exhorcist' openly calling hinduism as devilish?

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 28 Nov 2011 00:57

>>Father Gabriel Amorth, who has carried out more than 70,000 exorcisms in the past 25 years

That's over 7 a day, seven days a week for 25 years. Our man was conducting almost 1 exorcism every working hour. This idiot Father Amorth must be an expert on the devil by now. Based on his comments one wonders though, was each exorcism completely successful, or did a few of the 70,000 rub off on the old man...

saptarishi · Post by **saptarishi** » 28 Nov 2011 01:05

johneeG wrote:Btw, is that 'exhorcist' openly calling hinduism as devilish?

ridiculous

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 28 Nov 2011 02:38

http://www.drudge.com/news/150774/adida ... hoes-india
Adidas Making $1 Shoes in India

The sporting goods company Adidas is developing a Reebok training shoe to sell cheaply in rural India, possibly for as little as a dollar. "The shoe will be sold in villages through a distribution network," said Adidas chief executive Herbert Hainer. "We want the product to be self-funding." Making money in India requires a high-volume, low-price business model with razor-thin profit margins, said market analyst Rama Bijapurkar. "If you waited for incomes to rise to levels where they could buy Adidas shoes at Adidas prices, you would have to wait a very long time," Bijapurkar said.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 28 Nov 2011 02:41

saptarishi wrote:
johneeG wrote:Btw, is that 'exhorcist' openly calling hinduism as devilish?
ridiculous

An old man believing in the Second Coming ( did he "come" the first time) is rubbishing the knowledge of Reincarnation. IMHO, he has wasted his life working with Devil.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Nov 2011 05:01

I guess Resurrection is true belief!

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 28 Nov 2011 08:52

Ministry wants 8.4% for minorities in OBC quota

Roperia · Post by **Roperia** » 28 Nov 2011 16:21

http://mea.gov.in/mystart.php?id=190018608

3rd India-Japan Dialogue on Africa

The 3rd round of India-Japan Dialogue on Africa took place in Tokyo, Japan during 24-25 November 2011. The Indian delegation was led by Shri Gurjit Singh, Additional Secretary in the Ministry of External Affairs while the Japanese side was led by Ambassador Sumio Kusaka, Director General for African Affairs in Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Personal Representative of the Prime Minister for Africa.

The two sides held wide ranging discussions on their respective cooperation with the African Union and the Regional Economic Communities (RECs) of Africa; economic cooperation with select African countries; issues of mutual political interest including regional affairs in Africa; UN Security Council Reforms and impact on Africa of major political developments in the region.

India and Japan also explored avenues of mutual cooperation for contributing to Africa’s socio-economic development, peace and security. In this regard, the Indian delegation also held meetings with Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA) and the Japan Bank for International Cooperation (JBIC).

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 28 Nov 2011 16:41

abhishek_sharma wrote:Ministry wants 8.4% for minorities in OBC quota

If goes ahead with this it will be nice as OBC's en masse with start leaving the INC all over India. They will losing 25% of their reservation benefits. I hope somebody in the INC is mad enough to rise it Higher.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 28 Nov 2011 18:55

abhishek_sharma wrote:Ministry wants 8.4% for minorities in OBC quota

Isn't "Cast System", exclusive to Hindusim.

That being the case why the INC is trying to Include Muslims in the OBC quota. Alternatively, does that mean, that, an Muslim who claims him self to be belonging to backward class, is not considered a Muslim by the INC. As Islam is an egalitarian religion. With no discrimination between its flowers.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 29 Nov 2011 07:42

Muslim Law Board threatens stir on RTE, Wakf Bill

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 30 Nov 2011 00:53

http://www.econ.yale.edu/~egcenter/Kuran_SinghPaper.pdf
Economic Modernization in Late British India:
Hindu-Muslim Differences

Muslims did not start from a joint-family
enterprise. So for them establishing a family-controlled joint-stock company was not a
realistic option. It was much more likely to involve investment in an organization
dominated by non-relatives, even strangers. Hence, for Muslims the perceived risks of
investing in a joint-stock company were greater than those of Hindus whose capital had
been family-controlled.The Islamic inheritance system posed a further difficulty. Imagine that a wealthy
Muslim businessman founds a joint-stock company in which he controls 60 percent of the
shares and four others, none a relative, the remaining 40 percent. At his death, his shares
fall to his two sons, each of whom receives shares representing 20 percent of the
company, and two daughters, who get 10 percent each. The founder’s family can retain
control of the company by acting in unison. However, under Islamic inheritance rules
heirs are entitled to go their separate ways with their shares of the estate. Moreover, they
do not need anyone’s approval to transfer shares to someone else. Thus, nothing would
keep one of the sons in question from selling his 20 percent share to someone unknown
to, or disapproved by, the rest of the family. If he did so, the family would lose its
majority ownership and, therefore, its control over the company’s policies and long-term
strategy. The fact that the Islamic inheritance system extended inheritance rights to
women compounded the difficulties of maintaining family control over a joint-stock
company.

( Still the same Case)

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 30 Nov 2011 00:59

http://guides.library.yale.edu/content. ... sid=682385
http://britishart.yale.edu/sites/defaul ... posium.pdf
Art, Agency, Empire: India in Global Contexts
I enquired of monuments and ruins, I questioned the Vedas whose
pages count their existence by thousands of years…. And then did India
appear to me in all the living power of originality.
—Louis Jacolliot (1869)

Code: Select all

The objective of this one-day graduate student symposium is
to work against earlier paradigms by asserting the existence of
multiple forms of agency—artistic, cultural, political—in India
from about 1600 to Independence and beyond. The symposium
also aims to examine visual and cultural exchanges between
India and the rest of the world, with special (but not exclusive)
reference to Britain and the British Empire. We welcome
papers discussing the broadest range of visual materials, from
architecture and material culture through representations in
various media, and proposing interpretations that may engage
with questions of agency, artistic identity, power, and politics.
We aim to complicate canonical categories such as the “Company
School,” “Mughal Miniature,” “British Art” and “British India,”
“Swadeshi,” and even “diaspora” by critiquing methodologies
currently employed in researching, interrogating, and evaluating
materials from this place and time.

( It will cause More Lamentation from the Land of Lomins =Pakistan)

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 30 Nov 2011 07:30

Why now. These kind of studies is to control the information of the past and control the narratives
They want to own the narrative of the Indian history and colonial history. India has to counter this completelty.

Useful Subject Headings
Use these terms in an Orbis subject search to find relevant materials
Great Britain--Colonies--History--19th century
Great Britain -- Colonies—India
India—Civilization--British influences
East India Company--History

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Nov 2011 09:19

I think we are in the midst of a geopolitical earth quake and don't even know it. The Euro fight we are seeing is the fight between Europeans and Anglo-Saxons*.

For first time in 250 years the Continentals are seeing a chance to kick the balance of power Anglo-Saxons out of the game. The fight on Euro debt is that. Then we are seeing the geopolitical moves of the French and Germans to reach out and make new allies. The French are seeking out India to get them out of the Anglo-Saxon camp. The Germans are reaching out to PRC to get them out of US mfg markets. These two are the super powers of manufacturing can supply the world.

So where does Russia fit in?
They are mollycoddling TSP which is the bad apple. In this precarious game its necessary to handle the fragile toxic egg and take them out of the A-S orbit.

Time for us to decide whats good for India?

I think the big problem for India is the EIC/A-S system that wants subaltern Mules (Asimov) for their dominance. The reduction of A-S dominance will UnDIE the Indians and let them be free as Tagore writes in his poem "Where the mind is free..."

We can then see the reverting to the normal that Kishore Mahbubani envisions.
For balance in the global system this needs to happen.

*Its interesting that the MRCA has only these two nations that I write about. So in any way you look at it India is propping up these two A-S competitors!