Muppalla wrote:
devesh wrote:
Muppalla,
where is this "support" for Naxals in Telangana? seriously, I've seen Coastal luminaries like Chiranjeevi wax eloquent about Naxals. about how they fight for "common good". from personal experience in Warangal, I can tell you that Naxals don't have any "support". people were happy when the Naxalbari movement waned away and people could go out in the night without fear of attacks from PWG. the thousands of people attending funeral is a gimmick. we all know how "attendance" is trumped up in India, don't we? Naxals having a "support base" in Telangana which votes on their behalf?!?! this is also laughable. never ever heard or seen or experienced such a thing. and I am talking about outside of Hyderabad, in the rural areas. you seem to be on a mission to prove all and sundry stereotypes of T people for whatever reason.
You are unnecessarly jumping on me. I have given the link from eenadu about how many folks have attended the funeral etc. Even today if Gaddar conduct a meeting many people attend in T region. So T region does not have people support to Naxals is not true. There are documentary evidences that in some of the remote areas, Naxals run the show. It is very clear that no one (politicians) really goes ballastic again Naxals like they talk against LeT or JuM bacause of fear that Naxals will kill them. It is a recorded fact that some INC and TRS MP/MLA attended the funeral. Naxals have the means to influence the elections. You may disagree but YSR was able to win using such services.
This and your previous post : agreed on the underlying support aspect.
We may delight in Kishenji's death. But as you point out, my assessment has also been that the resurgence of the Maoists post 77, and especially in the 90's - and the survival of such an overtly anti-state movement, implies that it was penetrated by state agencies a long time ago. Since then it has simply been a tool of congress or the long term extension of the congress allied forces that have grown into the rashtryia machinery.
I would rather you do not go into the subregionalism within Maoism or so-called Bengali-nationalism or even Telegu-nationalism.

The contest for dominance between these two subregions within the extreme left has been negligible. Telegus and Bengalis mix well on radical viewpoints. [Its not mango-milk but kheer+sugar]. In fact even the legendary Bangali-Bihari catfight does not affect the northern wing of the movement [at least it did not with MCC].
What you note about possible subregionalism of MB is perhaps accurate, and she does plan on projecting herself as the subregional champion. But she has no other way forward. Her only hope lies in raising the Bengali subnationalism to counter the Congress and Left attempt to subdue her. But she has not "moved" in this particular occasion. A lot of other factors coincided to require the "Bali" of Kishenji. The long slippery slope downwards for him perhaps ironically started off from kishenji's tactical "understanding" with TMC before MB's electoral triumph. He was veering off from the so far uncanny and consistent targeting of forces feared by the congress and their apparently favoured religious positions. The Maoists target any "saffron" activist but never any Christian or muslim ones. Maoists ususally do not target congress bigwigs, unless that bigwig is showing disturbing signs of regional strength that could be seen as a challenge to the "centre".
Kishenji was therefore deviating from the pattern even if MB was apparently an ally of the "centre" at the time [remains oficially so] - since my pointer was that the centre wanted the Left to lose but not to be wiped off. They are not in love withe either of MB or the left - and they want the two to weaken each other so that Bengal once again at dynasty's feet.
The problem with such movements is that if they have possible bases of new support - rooted in specific socio-economic contexts, they will generate new leadership and sectors of support. The real problems have not been wiped off. Regardless of the Maoist violence and methods, the admin face and the face of the rashtra through its functionaries as seen at the local level where they operate - raise feelings of intense dislike and desire for retaliatory violence in even "normal" human beings.
Maoist methods are wrong and they ultimately serve foreign imperialist interests. But they get their support and will continue to get their support - since the rashtryia functionaries and what appears to the commons as the allies or favoured/protected entities of the rashtra, indulge in practices unmentionable here. I have seen many instances in my childhood and youth, and reports suggest that at the grassroots nothing has changed. Once sympathizers of the oppressed, the parliamentary Left produced local activists who one day became local rulers again replacing the old ones. Nothing really changed as to the nature of the exploitation and repression and sadism and perverted, twisted enjoyment of the suffering of the helpless.
Advent of TMC will not change things either, and after them any resurgent parliamentary left or the congress. The older exploiting groups will either be replaced by elements of the hitherto oppressed, who in time will copy their old oppressors and start oppressing themselves. Or the older rulers will have their next generation bloodlines placed in new roles and opposite camps to maintain their hold on power.