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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011 02:26 
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Tinker Tailor Chinese Spy

An article on spying by PRC on US.


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This comes at a time when all other spy agencies are doubling up their efforts !! We do NOT require any enemy to defeat our country. The present Govt is capable enough ! What the fc*k current NSA, home ministry, Defence ministry and PMO doing ? God save this country from corrupt, in efficient UPA. :((

RAW becomes a dump yard for favourites :shock: :((



P.K. Hormese Tharakan’s career in RAW was unspectacular, initiating “Trust in the Enemy” policies in Nepal, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh that within years has resulted in steep drops in Indian influence in all three. Tharakan was a protégé of then National Security Advisor M.K. Narayanan, and never strayed from the line dictated to him by the strong-willed NSA.

Since the UPA came into office in 2004, it has followed Morarji Desai in throwing away the Indira Gandhi legacy of nurturing RAW as the Indian version of the CIA or MI5-6. :shock:

The UPA has converted it into one more incompetent administrative and police service. This has been done by systematically downgrading the intelligence professionals from the Research Administrative Service (RAS) who work there. Since 2004, RAW alone has seen four changes at the top, all of whom have a police background. Although the first UPA pick, P.K. Hormese Tharakan, was known for integrity, his career in RAW was unspectacular, initiating "Trust in the Enemy" policies in Nepal, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh that within years has resulted in steep drops in Indian influence in all three. Tharakan was a protégé of then National Security Advisor M.K. Narayanan, and never strayed from the line dictated to him by the strong-willed NSA.


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^^ Real depressing read.... can hope and pray that the rank and file are doing their duty well unlike the top-brass.


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Hezbollah unravels CIA spy network in Lebanon


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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2011 01:12 
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Relatives And Wives :RAW


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Prepare or Perish

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Page 109 comments on Intelligence in 1962 war.

Looks like the ignorance of PRC divisions in Tibet was repeated even in 1965 about TSP Armored Division and again in 1999 Kargil.


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PostPosted: 18 Dec 2011 08:43 
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Now, RAW can legally intercept calls, e-mails


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Highly placed government sources said the RAW's addition to the list is aimed at giving it a legal cover for intercepting phone calls, e-mails and voice and data communication domestically.

Without any debate in the parliament the government does what it wants, just like a fascist dictatorship

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On the questions of a citizen's rights and privacy, the Home Ministry had reiterated that law enforcement agencies could tap phones of any individual for security or operational reasons for 72 hours even without permission from the Union Home Secretary or the State Home Secretary.

So even warrants are not required for casual spying of citizens opposing government corruption.

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But senior officials admit that the goof-ups have put a question mark on the integrity of the system which is not foolproof. They do not rule out the possibility of more innocent citizens being put on the list of suspects.

And no officials were punished for these lapses, just like a dictatorship... do what you want with lives of public, nobody will question you is the policy


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What are problems / issues / consequences of bringing in Intelligence agencies under the law?
Why can we not study different modalities and laws of other nations to get a understanding and then move in to bring these agencies under some kind of oversight not by a single dept. / individual but of parliament.
We got to make a start somewhere.
Any ideas by guru's. Thanks


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Honey traps on social networking sites

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The government has directed senior officials from paramilitary and armed forces to refrain from flaunting their career details on social networking sites, or stay away from such sites altogether, after instances of cyber espionage came to light.

Sources said officials of paramilitary forces, posted at sensitive locations, were found chatting with foreign agents across the border posing as women.


Following a spate of similar incidents, meetings were held to prohibit the use of official computers for social networking on the internet and officials were sensitised on the latest modus operandi of the spies.

Sources in the Telecom Department said an effective mechanism was being put in place to keep a vigil on officials posted in sensitive areas.

In some instances, officials were found indulging in objectionable activities through video chat, recordings of which were later used by the spies to blackmail to extract strategic and commercial information. The errant officials have been removed from their current postings and departmental action has been initiated, sources said.

Some officials were seen posing in their uniforms, armed with AK-47 rifles and service revolvers, which they admittedly did for impressing women, sources said.


While the number of such incidents were more in paramilitary forces, few instances were also reported in the armed forces.


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SOG Rajasthan arrests govt employee spying for ISI:

The clerk, Pawan Kumar Sharma (25), working at the SDM office in Suratgarh town in Sriganganagar district, used to forward information to his Pakistani handlers regarding army exercise in the area in which the permission of district administration is required. The army headquarters usually send applications requesting permission for any exercise to the SDM office. It is suspected that he was spying for ISI for the past one-and-a half years. "The mobile he used was a pre-paid one and was recharged by Pakistan's Inter-Service Intelligence (ISI) agency. To avoid detection, he would use this SIM card to give information to the ISI," an official source said.


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Naresh Chandra strat. review comm ready to submit rpt. will reco specific mandates for int agencies particularly RAW and DIA


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India A.Q. Khan’s mysterious fourth customer : US arms control expert

I dint knew to laugh or go in denial mode . but its still a absurd claim :mrgreen:


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^^^ Didnt you know, unkil was 4th customer. Pakis were nook capable since gazanvi time.

They are the founder of
nook tech,and what i know they also helped unkil with manhattan project as well.... :D


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Once he became RAW chief, one of Chaturvedi's tasks was to act as a courier for cash sent abroad to the relatives of a prominent Indian politician. He used to accompany bags of cash taken from RAW's secret funds, sometimes even in diplomatic bags, handing over the stash in European cities to delighted relatives of the neta.

At the time of his appointment, I wrote a note on one social media portal listing his "other" achivements. One of the biggest blunders of congress..


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A former Union minister in a key portfolio was being harassed by the ED over a deal involving Iraq under Saddam Hussein. And when the former minister made private threats (four years ago) in the presence of a young major that he would expose the involvement in the "oily" scam of the son-in-law of a prominent lady politician, this conversation was quickly conveyed to the governor of a small northern state, whose ADC the military officer was. This elderly worthy promptly did his patriotic duty by informing the lady politician's political factotums about the danger of exposure of the son-in-law's dealings. Swift action followed, the upshot being that the former minister was freed from the attention of government agencies that were looking into his business dealings, followed by his grateful silence on the role of the son-in-law. P

Love the word selection of the author :)

Guess who are the underlined persons!


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former Union minister - Natwar Singh
Son in law- Robert Vadra
Prominent lady Politician - Rajmata
Governor of small northern state - no idea


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Small Northern State = Punjab


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunith_Francis_Rodrigues

So the governor is above Mr. SF Rodrigues who was chief of Indian army from 90-93.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aide-de-camp#India
Regarding ADCs info is above.


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The Governor of the states has two ADCs, one each from the army and the state police service.

Nope ADCs to the gov. of a state can be from the services + IPS (not state police).

Also how can the ADC to a state gov be of the rank of a "Major" at the time he was an ADC. If he is IA would have to be to a "Captain" to serve as an ADC.


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India's secret war in Bangladesh

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Even as the role of the Indian military in giving birth to the new nation is celebrated, the role of its intelligence services remains largely unknown.

Forty-five minutes before 12.00 pm on December 14, 1971, Indian Air Force pilots at Hashimpara and Gauhati received instructions to attack an unusual target: a sprawling colonial-era building in the middle of Dacca that had no apparent military value whatsoever.

There were nothing but tourist maps available to guide the pilots to their target — but the results were still lethal. The first wave of combat jets, four MiG21 jets armed with rockets, destroyed a conference hall; two more MiGs and two Hunter bombers levelled a third of the main building.

Inside the building — the Government House — East Pakistan's Cabinet had begun an emergency meeting to discuss the political measures to avoid the looming surrender of their army at Dacca 55 minutes before the bombs hit. It turned out to be the last-ever meeting of the Cabinet. A.M. Malik, head of the East Pakistan government, survived the bombing along with his Cabinet — but resigned on the spot, among the burning ruins; the nervous system, as it were, of decision-making had been destroyed.


For years now, military historians have wondered precisely how the Government House was targeted with such precision; rumours that a spy was present have proliferated. From the still-classified official history of the 1971 war, we now know the answer. Indian cryptanalysts, or code-breakers, had succeeded in breaking Pakistan's military cipher — giving the country's intelligence services real-time information on the enemy's strategic decision-making.

India's Army, Navy and Air Force were lauded, during the celebrations of the 40th anniversary of Bangladesh's independence, for their role in ending a genocide and giving birth to a new nation. The enormous strategic contribution of India's intelligence services, however, has gone largely unacknowledged.

Seven months before the December 3 Pakistan Air Force raid that marked the beginning of the war, India's Chief of Army Staff issued a secret order to the General Officer Commanding, Eastern Command, initiating the campaign that would end with the dismemberment of Pakistan.

Operation Instruction 52 formally committed the Indian forces to “assist the Provisional Government of Bangladesh to rally the people of East Bengal in support of the liberation movement,” and “to raise, equip and train East Bengal cadres for guerrilla operations for employment in their own native land.”

The Eastern Command was to ensure that the guerrilla forces were to work towards “tying down the Pak [Pakistan] Military forces in protective tasks in East Bengal,” “sap and corrode the morale of the Pak forces in the Eastern theatre and simultaneously to impair their logistic capability for undertaking any offensive against Assam and West Bengal,” and, finally, be used along with the regular Indian troops “in the event of Pakistan initiating hostilities against us.”

Secret army

The task of realising these orders fell on Sujan Singh Uban. Brigadier — later Major-General — Uban was an artillery officer who had been handpicked to lead the Special Frontier Force, a secret army set up decades earlier with the assistance of the United States' Central Intelligence Agency to harry the Chinese forces in Tibet. The SFF, which until recently served as a kind of armed wing of India's external covert service, the Research and Analysis Wing, never did fight in China. In Bangladesh, the contributions of its men and officers would be invaluable.

Brigadier Uban — whose enthusiasm for irregular warfare was rivalled, contemporaries recall, only by his eccentric spiritualism — later said he had received a year's advance warning of the task that lay ahead from the Bengali mystic, Baba Onkarnath.

Less-than-holy war

The war he waged, though, was less-than-holy. In July 1971, India's war history records, the first Bangladesh irregulars were infiltrated across the border at Madaripur. This first group of 110 guerrillas destroyed tea gardens, riverboats and railway tracks — acts that tied down troops, undermined East Pakistan's economy and, the history says, destroyed “communications between Dhaka, Comilla and Chittagong.”

Much of the guerrilla war, however, was waged by the volunteers of the Gano Bahini, a volunteer force. The Indian forces initially set up six camps for recruiting and training volunteers, which were soon swamped. At one camp, some 3,000 young men had to wait up to two months for induction, although the “hygienic condition was pitiable and food and water supply almost non-existent.”

By September 1971, though, Indian training operations had expanded dramatically in scale, processing a staggering 20,000 guerrillas each month. Eight Indian soldiers were committed to every 100 trainees at 10 camps. On the eve of the war, at the end of November 1971, over 83,000 Gano Bahini fighters had been trained, 51,000 of whom were operating in East Pakistan — a guerrilla operation perhaps unrivalled in scale until that time. In the Chittagong Hill Tracts, Brigadier Uban sent in Indian soldiers or, to be more exact, CIA-trained, Indian-funded Tibetans using hastily-imported Bulgarian assault rifles and U.S.-manufactured carbines to obscure their links to India. Fighting under the direct command of RAW's legendary spymaster Rameshwar Kao, Brig. Uban's forces engaged in a series of low-grade border skirmishes.

Founded in 1962, the SFF had originally been called Establishment 22 — and still has a road named after it in New Delhi, next to the headquarters of the Defence Ministry. The organisation received extensive special operations training from the U.S., as part of a package of military assistance. In September 1967, the control of these assets was formally handed over to RAW — and used in Bangladesh to lethal effect.

From December 3, 1971, Brig. Uban's force began an extraordinary campaign of sabotage and harassment. At the cost of just 56 dead and 190 wounded, the SFF succeeded in destroying several key bridges, and in ensuring that Pakistan's 97 Independent Brigade and crack 2 Commando Battalion remained bogged down in the Chittagong Hill Tracts. Some 580 members of Brig. Uban's covert force were awarded cash, medals and prizes by the Government of India.

November 1971 saw the Indian-backed low-intensity war in East Pakistan escalate to levels Pakistan found intolerable — pushing it to act. On December 3, Pakistan attempted to relieve the pressure on its eastern wing by carrying out strikes on major Indian airbases. India retaliated with an offensive of extraordinary speed that has been described as a “blitzkrieg without tanks.”

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How important was the covert war to this victory, and what cost did it come at?

India's new communications intelligence technologies were clearly critical; three decades on, the government would be advised to make fuller accounts public, and publicly honour the anonymous cryptanalysts who achieved so much.

The 1971 war history records that their efforts meant “several important communications and projections of the Pak[istani] high command were intercepted, decoded and suitable action [was] taken.” Indian communications interception, the history states, even prevented a last-minute effort to evacuate the Pakistani troops from Dacca, using five disguised merchant ships.

The role of irregular forces, though, needs a more nuanced assessment. There is no doubt that they served to tie down Pakistani troops, and derail their logistical backbone. They were also, however, responsible for large-scale human rights abuses targeting Pakistani sympathisers and the ethnic Bihari population. There is no moral equivalence between these crimes and those of the Pakistani armed forces in 1971 — but the fact also is that the irregular forces bequeathed to Bangladesh a militarised political culture that would have deadly consequences of its own.

India's secret war in Bangladesh would have served little purpose without a conventional, disciplined military force to secure a decisive victory — a lesson of the utility and limitations of sub-conventional warfare that ought to be closely studied today by the several states that rely on these tactics.

Good article but more juciy stuff on what else our covert services did also could have been included

Also, it mentions that SFF was under RAW till some time back. Whom does it report to now, MHA?


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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/nagpur/Suspected-ISI-man-flees-agencies-pass-the-buck/articleshow/11285560.cms

Talk about mis-intercommunication between security agencies :shock:


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PostPosted: 29 Dec 2011 04:29 
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Have had discussions with some people in BD and WB regarding the current state of affairs. Pretty depressing when it comes to border management.......Forget TECHINT,....just getting HUMINT is becoming difficult due to rampant corruption in the intel set-up. Don't want to spill the beans here in this open forum for the sake of nat'al security, but this is something the country needs to pay attention at before another disaster happens.......


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Sad to hear. The mood in the country is lets make as much money as possible. Right from the ministers to the taluk office worker.


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Chinese spies in India, suspects Tibetan admn


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Cross posted from Cyber Warfare discussion:

Hacker Group claims to have hacked India’s military and intelligence servers

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The hackers claim to have discovered Symantec’s source code in a hack they conducted on India’s military and intelligence servers. In their online post, the hackers said, “We have discovered within the Indian Spy Program source codes of a dozen software companies,” which the hackers said had signed agreements with an Indian defense program and India’s Central Bureau of Investigation.


They posted images of emails of the U.S.-CHINA ECONOMIC AND SECURITY REVIEW COMMISSION which were intercepted by India as proof of the hack.

Clicky


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Kati wrote:
Have had discussions with some people in BD and WB regarding the current state of affairs. Pretty depressing when it comes to border management.......Forget TECHINT,....just getting HUMINT is becoming difficult due to rampant corruption in the intel set-up. Don't want to spill the beans here in this open forum for the sake of nat'al security, but this is something the country needs to pay attention at before another disaster happens.......


This has always been the Achilles heel. :twisted:


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Delhi court frames charges against former Indian diplomat
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A Delhi court on Saturday framed charges against former Indian diplomat Madhuri Gupta for allegedly passing on sensitive information to Pakistan’s ISI. Additional Sessions Judge Pawan Kumar Jain charged Gupta under Section 3 and 5 of the Official Secrets Act for spying and also section 120B of the Indian Penal Code for criminal conspiracy. The court fixed March 22 for starting the trial.
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She has been charged with breach of trust, criminal conspiracy and various other provisions of the Official Secrets Act. It was alleged that Gupta revealed certain classified information to Pakistani officials and was in touch with two ISI officials, Mubshar Raza Rana and Jamshed.

According to the charge sheet filed in July 2010, Gupta was involved in a relationship with Jamshed whom she planned to marry. She used to communicate with Jamshed who had a code name ‘Jim’.


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The Wahhabi Invasion
Saudi charities pump in huge funds through hawala channels to radicalise the Valley


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Smartphone makers gave India spy tools, 'leaked' memos say

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45931204/ns/technology_and_science-security/

I knew they would give into GoI. :twisted:


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Indian Diplomat gets bail
Madhuri Gupta is now out on bail, after being "inside" for 21 months. Bail conditions are..Additional Sessions Judge Pawan Kumar Jain released Gupta on a personal bond of Rs 5,000 with the stipulation that she would not leave Delhi.
(as reported in the news link).


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I fail to understand how come in India people commiting grave sin are released with very minimal punishments ?????


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China banking on Pakistan for India intel?

China banking on Pakistan for India intel?


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China banking on Pakistan for India intel?

China banking on Pakistan for India intel?

One chini amirkhan tells me that lot of Paki people are in India to get information and spy on India. He was trying to scare me with this information. I told him India has more people inside Pakistan. He has shut his mouth.


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Feuding police arrest key witness in 13/7 Mumbai terror attacks; allow terrorists to escape

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For the past six weeks, an obscure Darbhanga-based leather-business owner has been at the heart of India's hunt for the men who planted three improvised explosive devices that went off in a crowded Mumbai marketplace last summer, killing 26 and injuring at least 130.

Naquee Ahmad has helped the Intelligence Bureau and the Delhi Police build images of the two Pakistani nationals suspected to have planted the bombs, and sat with under-cover detectives staking out the apartment they last used.

For his contributions, Mr. Ahmad has been rewarded with arrest on charges of obtaining a mobile phone subscriber identity card using fake documents — a case a top Mumbai Police official told The Hindu was “totally without merit.” His brother Rafi Ahmad has also been detained; their youngest sibling, Taquee, was questioned on Wednesday.

Mr. Ahmad's surreal fate, the outcome of a feud pitting Maharashtra's élite anti-terrorism unit, the ATS, against the Delhi Police and the Intelligence Bureau, demonstrates how India's national security effort is still mired in incompetence — three years after the tragic events of 26/11.

Key witness

Intelligence Bureau investigators first held Mr. Ahmad on December 9, following a series of arrests in New Delhi. The story he had to tell was consistent with what the authorities already knew: Mr. Ahmad was a key witness, not a suspect.

Late in 2008, an Arabic-language student, Gayur Ahmad Jamali, had fallen ill with a lung condition. Friends in Bihar introduced Mr. Jamali to an Ayurvedic physician called “Dr. Imran”. The two men became friends of sorts: “Dr. Imran,” Mr. Jamali told the police, would often advocate armed jihad as a means to retaliate against the oppression of Indian Muslims; he would argue otherwise.

“Dr. Imran,” the Delhi Police believed, was none other than Muhammad Ahmad Zarar Siddibapa — a fugitive Indian Mujahideen commander also known by the alias “Yasin Bhatkal,” and long sought by the authorities across the world for his alleged involvement in a series of bombings across India.

In November, Mr. Jamali had contacted Mr. Ahmad with a request: finding a room in Mumbai for his old doctor and two business associates. Mr. Ahmad, who often travelled to the city on business, helped as best he could. In November 2011, the three men made a Rs. 1,00,000-deposit with Razia Begum, to hire a one-room apartment at Byculla.

In testimony to the Delhi Police, which is available with The Hindu, Mr. Ahmad offered a wealth of detail on the two men he was introduced to as “Waqas” and “Tabrez.” He accompanied the two terrorists to a local gym, and got them supervising work at a construction site. He also identified “Waqas” from closed-circuit camera footage taken outside a store in Jhaveri Bazaar.

Mr. Ahmad's questioning had all but ended by January 7 — when the Delhi Police arrived on his doorstep with one last request for help.

In New Delhi, highly-placed government sources told The Hindu, Intelligence Bureau Director Nehchal Sandhu had been personally supervising the monitoring of a phone investigators had established was being used by “Dr Imran.” In an intercepted conversation in December, “Dr Imran” told his landlady that he wanted a refund of Rs. 84,000 that remained of the advance on the apartment at Byculla.

The Intelligence Bureau's Delhi centre faced technical problems in tracking the mobile phone, and so passed on its details to its station in Mumbai. Then, under circumstances that still haven't been clear, the top-secret number was passed on to the ATS.

Little understanding either the value or context of this information, the Maharashtra ATS promptly conducted a series of raids: Razia Begum was detained, the Byculla apartment searched, and Mr. Ahmad himself arrested in an effort to understand the case. Not surprisingly, the ATS action destroyed any hope that Mr. Siddibapa or his Pakistani aides might be found.


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Maharashtra's ATS has long faced allegations of sharp practice, and worse. In 2008, for example, it failed to inform the Intelligence Bureau and other State police forces that it had held Mumbai criminal Afzal Usmani, who is being tried on charges of providing vehicles used to stage bombings in Ahmedabad in July 2008. The failure to share intelligence, Delhi Police sources have told The Hindu, facilitated a subsequent Indian Mujahideen strike in the capital that September.


Summary of story:

*IB/Delhi police special cell track down Yasin Bhatkal through TECHINT in 2008. IB director, Sandhu himself was monitoring the phone tapping.
* DP find it tough to triangulate the locaion due to poor equipment and turn it over to better equipped ATS.
* ATS takes over the case and instead of waiting pateintly and tracking Bhatkal blindly raids all the names mentioned int tapped calls. This leads to innocent landlord and IB's own informer being nabbed which alerts Bhatkal and he promptly escapes to Pak!!! :-? :roll:

Thankfully, all this were only happening with "secular" state agencies( like IB, Delhi, Maharashtra and not fascists states like Gujarat police or MP police) else we would have had the word "communal"/"fascist" thrown around and most of the policemen involved behind bars for "arresting innocent minorities".


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It could have been done to ruin the case.ATS doesn't have sterling reputation.


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Just a thought for the Gurus.. Is it possible that we combine IB with NIA.. Also bifurcate CBI into 2 parts.. Economics Offence wing can be separated from other branches ( It can be bought under preview of LOK PAL). Criminal investigation and Anti terror cell can be merged in IB-NIA. ATS os every state can directly contact and ask help and information from this NIA-IB kind of agency. This way is possible to create an agency which is much more effective as counter terrorist and counter- intelligence...


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Remember this hilarious accusation? Well,it now has been revealed that it was true!

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""This is the first time we literally caught them red-handed in the process of contacting their agents here and received evidence that they finance a number of non-governmental organisations."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... dmits.html[

quote]Russian 'spy rock' was genuine, former chief of staff admits
It was a spy plot so far-fetched it would be worthy of James Bond – a transmitter concealed inside an artificial rock by British agents and placed next to a Russian street in order to steal classified data.

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The FSB, the Russian intelligence service, broadcast X-rays of a hollowed-out rock filled with circuitry Photo: REUTERS
Image 1 of 3A video showed men alleged to be British agents repeatedly walking past the rock located next to a Moscow street Photo: REUTERS
Image 1 of 3Six years on, Tony Blair's former Chief of Staff has admitted that the 'embarrassing' episode was entirely true.

Photo: REUTERS By Nick Collins, and Duncan Gardham
19 Jan 2012

But it has emerged that the 'spy rock' diplomatic row which damaged relations with Russia in early 2006 was not a work of fiction after all.

Britain initially laughed off accusations from Moscow that spies had been caught "red-handed" using the fake rock to contact agents and download sensitive information.

Now six years on, Tony Blair's former Chief of Staff has admitted that the "embarrassing" episode was entirely true and not merely far-fetched Russian propaganda.

Jonathan Powell accepted that Britain did indeed plant a "spy rock" despite attempts by the then-prime minister to dismiss the story and denials of improper conduct by the Foreign Office.

In an interview broadcast on Putin, Russia and the West, a BBC Two series which starts tonight (THURS), he said: "There’s not much you can say. The spy rock was embarrassing. Clearly they had known about it for some time and had been saving it up for a political purpose.”

The incident was broadcast on Russian TV at a time when its government was seeking to justify new restrictive laws on human rights and pro-democracy campaigners.

Vladimir Putin, then President of Russia, claimed the groups were being funded by Western government agencies, adding: "This law had been adopted to stop foreign powers interfering in the internal affairs of the Russian Federation."

The video, which appeared at the time to be an effort to frame the British, showed men alleged to be British agents repeatedly walking past the rock located next to a Moscow street.

One clip showed one of the men kicking the device, possibly because it had malfunctioned, while another British diplomat was seen picking up the football-sized rock and walking away with it.

The FSB, the Russian intelligence service, broadcast close-ups and X-rays of a hollowed-out rock filled with circuitry and accused four British men and one Russian of using a transmitter inside to download information onto palmtop computer.

In this way, they claimed, the Russian informant could wirelessly store information in the rock where it was , retrievable by the British agents in a 21st-century version of what is known as a 'dead-letter drop'.

Sergei Ignatchenko, a spokesman for the FSB, said: "This is the first time we literally caught them red-handed in the process of contacting their agents here and received evidence that they finance a number of non-governmental organisations."

But Mr Blair attempted to play down the allegations, smiling as he told journalists: "I think the less said about that, the better."

The programme hired Katia Zatuliveter, who was later arrested and accused of being a Russian spy, as a researcher. An immigration panel found there was insufficient evidence to deport her.

While researching the programme she made contact with a Nato official from who she was accused of trying to extract secrets.

Anatol Lieven, an expert in Russia at King's College, London, said: "The Russian authorities were always quite sure that this was a case of spying, even though they were accused of paranoia at the time, and there is no reason this will cause them to stir it up again.

"However it shows that, while we always accuse the Russians of not changing since the cold war, the same might be said of MI6."

A spokesman at the Russian Embassy in London said: "We believe that sufficient comments were already given by Russian officials back in 2006."

The Foreign Office declined to comment.

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Strategic Review Committee's report out next month
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HT Correspondent , Hindustan Times
New Delhi, December 27, 2011
First Published: 11:49 IST(27/12/2011)
Last Updated: 13:55 IST(27/12/2011)

With the Strategic Review Committee headed by Naresh Chandra expected to submit its report next month, the government is expecting the former cabinet secretary to recommend specific charters for Indian intelligence in order to avoid task overlap and one-upmanship among agencies.

Government sources said the 14 member committee was currently in the process of compiling the report with all the six sub-groups ready with their recommendations on border management, internal security, defence management and intelligence reform. The committee, set-up in June 2011, will submit its report in January 2012.

While the Committee will push for national security reforms, the government is hoping that Naresh Chandra will define mandates for intelligence agencies particularly the Research and Analysis Wing (R&AW) and the tri-service Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA). Apart from presence of disgruntled elements within, the R&AW is often at odds with Indian diplomats and growing number of Intelligence Bureau posts abroad. Top officials feel that rather than focus on core intelligence collection outside the country, R&AW agents often play diplomats and tinker with country specific foreign policy.

The DIA, on its part, is a matter of serious concern to the national security managers as the post of Director General DIA has become a sinecure for Lieutenant Generals awaiting their next postings. The average tenure of a DG DIA is around one to one-and-a-half years with only defence attaches coming under its ambit. As the individual services intelligence do not share data with DIA, the organisation has become bit of an orphan.

With former R&AW chief KC Verma and former Intelligence Bureau chief PC Halder on the Naresh Chandra committee, the government is hoping to spruce up its intelligence gathering apparatus to meet the demand of ever growing consumers.


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Philip wrote:
Remember this hilarious accusation? Well,it now has been revealed that it was true!

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""This is the first time we literally caught them red-handed in the process of contacting their agents here and received evidence that they finance a number of non-governmental organisations."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/9022827/Russian-spy-rock-was-genuine-former-chief-of-staff-admits.html

Something already known on BRF, is validated and publicized - covert action under the guise of NGO's, by and for the west.

In Indian context this sponsored NGO's have shitloads of money, and access all over the country. Their insidiousness knows no bound with simple rural folks in awe of their magnanimity and new age urbanites gaga over this seemingly philanthropic selfless phoreniers.


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